USB to serial DB9 pin
I need to get a USB to DB9 serial cable . Do I need a driver for this cable? G4 or G3 OS 10.4.11 John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial DB9 pin
On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I need to get a USB to DB9 serial cable . Do I need a driver for this cable? G4 or G3 OS 10.4.11 Maybe. As I recall there's a hard-to-find (Belkin? MacAlly? Keyspan?) cable that doesn't need a driver; I ran across this looking up some GPS-related info a while back, about connecting GPS units to use as input devices for mapping programs on the Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial DB9 pin
On Jul 30, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I need to get a USB to DB9 serial cable . Do I need a driver for this cable? G4 or G3 OS 10.4.11 Maybe. As I recall there's a hard-to-find (Belkin? MacAlly? Keyspan?) cable that doesn't need a driver; I ran across this looking up some GPS-related info a while back, about connecting GPS units to use as input devices for mapping programs on the Mac. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs There are no Belkin that I can find for OS X I do have a Belkin F31661-06 but it's for OS 9. and even at that it never do work hardly. I'll check for the other brands. John Carmonne Placentia CA 92870 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial DB9 pin
On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:46 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: There are no Belkin that I can find for OS X There's an old Belkin USB dockstation that has ports with OS X drivers available. Belkin F5U216. The F5U216 uses FTDI drivers http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm . I do have a Belkin F31661-06 but it's for OS 9. and even at that it never do work hardly. If this adapter uses a cable to adapt a standard DB9 to the Mac DB8 then you can likely use it with OS X. You'd need to determine the chipset used in the adapter and then find an OS X extension for it. You can probably plug the adapter into the USB and look in System Profiler to see about the chipset. It may be a Prolific Logic PL-2303 which has OS X drivers. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
You might want to look for a GeeThree Stealth Serial Port device. It wouldn't work in your cube, but it should be installable into any G4 PM. I have one on my QS- it uses the modem connector on the logic board to create a serial port, which works in both OS9 and OS X. It functions identically to the serial ports that were built in to older macs. It might be hard to track one down, but it's definitely the best solution to the problem. http://www.geethree.com/stealth/install/g4viewa.html http://www.geethree.com/stealth/ -sri On Aug 11, 7:52 am, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Sri Gupta wrote: You might want to look for a GeeThree Stealth Serial Port device. It wouldn't work in your cube, but it should be installable into any G4 PM. I have one on my QS- it uses the modem connector on the logic board to create a serial port, which works in both OS9 and OS X. It functions identically to the serial ports that were built in to older macs. It might be hard to track one down, but it's definitely the best solution to the problem. http://www.geethree.com/stealth/install/g4viewa.html http://www.geethree.com/stealth/ -sri Thanks I'll sure take a shaot at this as soon as I get home. It sounds like just what I'm needing. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my TiBook 500 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
On Aug 13, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Sri Gupta wrote: You might want to look for a GeeThree Stealth Serial Port device. It wouldn't work in your cube, but it should be installable into any G4 PM. I have one on my QS- it uses the modem connector on the logic board to create a serial port, which works in both OS9 and OS X. It functions identically to the serial ports that were built in to older macs. It might be hard to track one down, but it's definitely the best solution to the problem. http://www.geethree.com/stealth/install/g4viewa.html http://www.geethree.com/stealth/ -sri Thanks I found one at MacPro and it's on the way. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB to serial??
Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm pilots and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might work and be cheaper... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search eBay for edgeport. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:39, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. Keyspan makes a USB-Serial adapter that's widely used for serial palm pilots and gps'es, it should work for your purposes. Heck a generic one might work and be cheaper... -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
On Aug 11, 8:46 am, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search eBay for edgeport. Do you use these with OS 9? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
I stand corrected - they don't have any plans on supporting Mac, however I thought since OS X is based upon BSD it would have support. My mistake. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:27, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Aug 11, 8:46 am, Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: I've acquired industrial grade EdgePort USB-serial adapters for quite cheap off eBay, and provide full RS-232C compliant interfaces. Search eBay for edgeport. Do you use these with OS 9? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged. - Jean-Luc Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie, Star Trek: TNG episode The Drumhead - Alex Smith (K4RNT) - Murfreesboro, Tennessee USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
Back when USB was first introduced and serial ports nom longer included companies came out with Serial to USB adapters. Should still be around. I remember needing an ethernet interface to make something like a laser printer still work, but I don't think you will be overloading the information capacity of the link. Good luck. On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:52 AM, John Carmonne wrote: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB to serial??
At 05:52 -0700 8/11/10, John Carmonne wrote: I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. - - - I have been using an old Mac SE/30 for that kind of thing. OS 7.5 talks to OS 10.3.9 quite well on ethernet but you can't use Tiger. With OS 9 you'll be fine. But you should be warned that RS232 has been modified in usage more or less recently. USB to RS232 converters, especially those that use power from the USB bus at +5 volts claim to be RS 232 compliant but they are not if you read the RS-232C standard which is all I can afford. The problem is that the new stuff doesn't go negative to represent a mark (logic 1) condition. It just goes low enough, about +100 mV, to look like a logic low to a modern CMOS gate. Your CNC machine or hub may well requite a voltage below -3 V which is the RS 232C standard. Mac serial ports are fine with that. I have also used a 1.5 volt dry cell in series with the TxD data line polarized to subtract 1.5 volts from the fake RS232 signal from the USB-RS232 converter. Something else I find useful is a cheap Intel box that's just good enough to run Linux and still has serial ports. Linux is comfortable with OS-9 and all versions of OS neXt over Ethernet. If you're willing to learn some perl have a look at ftp://ftp.macnauchtan.com/Excel/Tektronixwaves.pl. It goes the other way, reading from an oscilloscope over RS-232 but might be a starting point. -- -- If the US citizens between 18 and 21 would exercise their right to vote we wouldn't have a 21 year drinking age. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: USB to serial??
John: I have used the following device with some success. Sabrent SBT-USC1M USB to Serial (9-pin) DB-9 RS-232 Adapter Cable. I ordered mine from directron.com out of Houston, TX, but that is because I am only about 100 miles away. HTH, Dennis in Edna, TX -Original Message- From: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:g3-5-l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Carmonne Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:52 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: USB to serial?? Hi All I have a G4 Cube and PM G4 MDD both boot OS9 and I use a program to communicate data to CNC machinery. The method was always via printer or modem ports on the pre G4 machines with those ports. So the G4's have USB and I need to transfer the files via Mac to a RS232C hub connected to 8 CNC machines. The communication program has all the setup configurations, however only affords either printer or modem port. Is there any hope of making this work. At the moment I transfer the files via floppy to a G3 PPC to send to the machines. I want to eliminate that step. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
