Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
Eric Herbert wrote: From what I understand, it goes like this: If you can manage it, upgrading to a Core Image capable card makes a major difference in how your Mac behaves. For further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_Extreme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Image Well, cool. It sounds like I did something right. The guy who sold me the card had it listed as supporting Quartz Extreme and Core Image. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
>From what I understand, it goes like this: Quartz Extreme was Apple's first layer of hardware video acceleration. It requires a minimum of a GeForce 2 or a Radeon graphics card on an AGP bus to function. Quartz Extreme was designed to speed up finder graphics and 2D animation by offloading graphics rendering to the graphics card instead of using the CPU for rendering as had been done in the past. Without a Quartz Extreme video card, Tiger and later operating systems are fairly sluggish since the CPU is required to render all graphics and animations that your screen displays. Core Image takes Quartz Extreme to the next level. It required a GeForce 5200 or a Radeon 9600 graphics card minimum to function. Core Image accelerates all graphics rendering on the system as well as allowing 3rd party applications to use the graphics card for proprietary functions. 2 examples I can think of right off the top of my head are Flash and Photoshop. Flash applets, such as YouTube will benefit SIGNIFICANTLY from Core Image. I can use my Quicksilver G4 as an example. With it's stock GeForce 4 graphics card on Leopard, only Quartz Extreme is supported. Watching a YouTube movie is similar to watching a slide show. The whole computer grinds to a halt. I upgraded it a while back to run a flashed GeForce 6200 graphics card which supports Core Image. The XBench graphics benchmark score actually went DOWN, but Flash apps like YouTube run smooth as glass. The Finder overall feels much more responsive as well. If you can manage it, upgrading to a Core Image capable card makes a major difference in how your Mac behaves. For further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_Extreme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Image On Jul 5, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: > Core image is the very center of the graphics on Mac OS X. If the video card > doesn't support it, well then, I guess you can kiss fast graphics goodbye. As > for quartz extreme, i don't know too much about it, but I know for a fact > that any video card that doesn't support it will make the graphics even on > Mac OS X 10.4.11 or earlier really slow. > > -- > Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
Core image is the very center of the graphics on Mac OS X. If the video card doesn't support it, well then, I guess you can kiss fast graphics goodbye. As for quartz extreme, i don't know too much about it, but I know for a fact that any video card that doesn't support it will make the graphics even on Mac OS X 10.4.11 or earlier really slow. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
Thanks, Pete. I actually wound up going with an ATI 9600XT. I feel pretty confident that I can tape over pins 3 and 11. Can you, or any one else for that matter, tell me what Quartz Extreme and Core Image is? I am still learning about the deepr things of Mac land. Thanks, Dennis pdimage wrote: On 28/6/10 20:09, "Dennis Myhand" wrote: Hi All: I am looking to upgrade the video in my DA dual 533. I found the following card on eBay: MAC nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP Video Card 128MB VRAM Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/MAC-nVidia-GeForce4-Ti-4600-AGP-Video-Card-128MB-VRAM-/110 550696900?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item19bd55c3c4 Is this a good card? Is it as powerful as the seller says it is? Thanks, Dennis It's an old card and though it supports Qextreme it does not support CoreImage - so if you would like to have CoreImage you will need a minimum GeForce 5200 or better - for Radeon cards a 9600/9700/9800 Pro - the higher the better. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
It is actually an okay-ish card. if you want something that doesn't go slow, this is a good choice. Don't rely way too heavily on this, because it's only 128MB of video RAM. On a scale from 1 to 10, it is a 4. I am going to get my Nvidia GeForce 6200 GT card with 256MB of VRAM flashed to my sawtooth. Basically, the more memory you can get to work on the video graphics on your mac, the better. If you want regular and no intensive heavy tasks, then a 128MB video card would do fine. If you want something just twice as serious, get something like i did. On a scale from 1 to 10, my Nvidia GeForce 6200 performs like a 10, with all of the smooth graphics. (Don't forget people, a new MBP ships with 256MB of video RAM standard, so 256MB of Video RAM is good!) Unless you can get really lucky and find a video card with 512MB of VRAM on an AGP slot. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Video Card Upgrade Info Please
On 28/6/10 20:09, "Dennis Myhand" wrote: > Hi All: > > I am looking to upgrade the video in my DA dual 533. I found the > following card on eBay: > > MAC nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP Video Card 128MB VRAM > > Here is the link: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/MAC-nVidia-GeForce4-Ti-4600-AGP-Video-Card-128MB-VRAM-/110 > 550696900?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item19bd55c3c4 > > Is this a good card? Is it as powerful as the seller says it is? > Thanks, Dennis It's an old card and though it supports Qextreme it does not support CoreImage - so if you would like to have CoreImage you will need a minimum GeForce 5200 or better - for Radeon cards a 9600/9700/9800 Pro - the higher the better. Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Video Card Upgrade Info Please
Hi All: I am looking to upgrade the video in my DA dual 533. I found the following card on eBay: MAC nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600 AGP Video Card 128MB VRAM Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/MAC-nVidia-GeForce4-Ti-4600-AGP-Video-Card-128MB-VRAM-/110550696900?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item19bd55c3c4 Is this a good card? Is it as powerful as the seller says it is? Thanks, Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
