Re: Worth the added cost?
On Feb 23, 10:08 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I put a SATA card in my MDD G4 recently. Card was $50 and the 2TB drives are now about $75 each. PATA was really limited and expensive. I remarked in another thread about not understanding a particular upgrade. Well, even though I own a Mac Pro, the $200 for this upgrade to the MDD was worth it for me. I use it as a server more than anything, and the best thing is that I am now getting drives that if the MDD dies, can be moved into the Pro. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Worth the added cost?
On Feb 24, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:08 PM -0500 2/23/2011, Bill Connelly wrote: I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I think a good quality SATA control is worth it. The performance is sweet. And you'll save a bit down the road as SATA HD prices get lower and lower and lower. I decided to go with the Sonnet, as the price dropped to what I paid for my Firmtek Seritek PCI card I bought a few somethings ago. Also went with a 1TB 7200.12 Seagate (ST31000528AS) because it was 1 step past the 7200.11 that had the firmware issue. Hopefully its as good a drive as it predecessors. Here's an amazon.com link to the drive I selected: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00272NHOK I also think the Sonnet PCI card comes with SATA data and power cables, which the Bare drive does not. One point I was after was whether or not the more advanced 2TB XT level Seagate was worth the $170 price tag, which I decided, for my hardware setup, it was not ... as nice a drive as it appears to be ... well, I almost wish I had swung for it anyway ... maybe when its price drops ... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Worth the added cost?
I think a good quality SATA control is worth it. The performance is sweet. And you'll save a bit down the road as SATA HD prices get lower and lower and lower. The capacity of IDE/PATA drives have already topped-out, and there is no more market for, or interest in improved capacity IDE/PATA drives. I believe 500 GB is now the maximum, although some 750 GB drives may have been made. That is for the 3.5 form factor. For the 2.5 form factor, 320 GB is most likely the current maximum. The same is not true of SATA drives, however, and SATA II (3.0 Gb/sec) drives continue to be developed, even as SATA III (6.0 Gb/s) are being introduced. 2.5 form factor SATA drives are already up to 1 TB, and 3.5 form factor SATA drives are heading towards 3 TB. The controller cards which were originally developed for use in machines of the age of a QS are generally based upon the Initio 1.5 Gb/s chip. Drives which have a rating of 3.0 Gb/s are generally provided with a jumper to limit these to 1.5 Gb/s. This jumper may be removed to restore the maximum throughput capacity of the drive. However, most controllers are of the auto-negotiating type, even if the drives are not, so the lower of the rated throughput capacity of the drive or the controller will become the overall throughput capacity. Naturally, the actual throughput capacity may be lower as many drives have an internal throughput capacity of about 40 MB/sec. The Initio-based cards are known to work on PCI-based PCs (P4 or related) as well as PCI-based Macs (G3 or related). In fact, LaCie actively marketed its card and external drive cases to both markets. Otherworld Computing also marketed an Initio-based card, but it marketed it only to the Mac market. They are architecturally identical, however, and contain the precisely the same firmware. Later cards may indeed have a throughput capacity of 3.0 Gb/s, but cross-platform compatibility is not necessarily guaranteed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Worth the added cost?
I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I also want a new SATA Seagate, and see they have an XT 2TB model. Here's the full name: Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST32000641AS (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RWJHBM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) I know it is somewhat of an overkill, as the Sonnet SATA PCI card is a 3Gb/s card, and probably doesn't achieve that in a QS 2002; but it has a 5-Year Warranty, and I rationalize it would last longer since I'm using it at a slower transfer rate. One alternative is the one that had a firmware issue: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Bare Drive (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066IJPQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) If I buy this new (from Amazon.com), should I expect the firmware issue is fixed in that item? I could buy 2 of those (ST31500341AS) for what 1 of the ST32000641AS would cost. Another alternative is a 2TB one that runs at 5900 rpm, but I'm partial to the 7200: Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB 5900RPM SATA 3 GB/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST32000542AS-Bare Drive (http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6/ref=pd_cart_recs_16 ) Suggestions welcomed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Worth the added cost?
I use the sonnet pci sata card in my QS 2002 933 and a Seagate 7200.12. So far it has been a very good combination. On Feb 23, 2011 10:09 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: I'm considering upgrading my Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz, with a SATA PCI card (Probably Sonnet, since I cannot find Firmtek's). I also want a new SATA Seagate, and see they have an XT 2TB model. Here's the full name: Seagate Barracuda XT 2 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Bare Drive ST32000641AS ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RWJHBM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) I know it is somewhat of an overkill, as the Sonnet SATA PCI card is a 3Gb/s card, and probably doesn't achieve that in a QS 2002; but it has a 5-Year Warranty, and I rationalize it would last longer since I'm using it at a slower transfer rate. One alternative is the one that had a firmware issue: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1.5 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST31500341AS-Bare Drive ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00066IJPQ/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8m=ATVPDKIKX0DER ) If I buy this new (from Amazon.com), should I expect the firmware issue is fixed in that item? I could buy 2 of those (ST31500341AS) for what 1 of the ST32000641AS would cost. Another alternative is a 2TB one that runs at 5900 rpm, but I'm partial to the 7200: Seagate Barracuda LP 2 TB 5900RPM SATA 3 GB/s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive ST32000542AS-Bare Drive ( http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST32000542AS-Bare/dp/B0028Y4CY6/ref=pd_cart_recs_16 ) Suggestions welcomed. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
