Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:37 PM, D Stubbs wrote: OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions'... Which did...absolutely nada. You would need to run Repair Disk to fix this sort of problem if it's fixable. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 15, 2008, at 11:06 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Hunter Fuller wrote: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. / is the root of the drive. . represents the current directory. And no, you should not be able to rename/name something .. But it might not be ., it might be . or .. A rose by any other name is a lost mount point --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Clark Martin wrote: This file was called simply . which you can't name a file to. Yes, you can add a . to the beginning of a filename but you can't make it just .. Or it was called . which is a common trick for hiding files, and easily typoed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:08 PM, D Stubbs wrote: Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. This will take some terminal work. Find the full name of the folder holding this file (if it is a partion separate from your boot partition, this will start with /Volumes/...). Inventory X should be able to show you this. Start /Applications/Utilities/Terminal and type: cd /Volumes/rest of the name Be EXACT. Spelling, case, and spaces count! Include the marks and substitute the rest of the name for rest of the name Once you've done that hit enter. Now type: ls -al and hit enter. Copy and paste everything that shows up and send it to us here. It will take a bit of detective work to determine the exact name of this folder (It only looks like it's called ., the most likely suspect is that it's called . a period followed by a space.) Then we can give you the terminal command to safely delete it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:25 AM, D Stubbs wrote:
OK, I have never opened Terminal App, interesting, it opened with a
page
titled
Terminal-Bash-80x24
On this page it has 3 lines of text, but the cursor is not active on
this
page to enter anything,
The cursor is active, just not visible:
Here's what it looks like on mine:
Last login: Mon Dec 15 16:38:32 on ttys002
dbdev2:~ johnson$
Since I have my cursor set (via preferences) to an unblinking block
there's a block sitting at the end of the line 'dbdev2:~ johnson$'
If that window is active, simply typing will put the command text in
the window. This is the infamous 'command-line interface', and that
last line is called a 'command prompt'. What it shows can be changed,
but it shows me some useful information. Here's the various parts and
their meaning:
dbdev2 This is the name of the computer I'm using. While this may
seem nonsensical (of course I know what computer I'm using!) it's very
useful, since I can connect to other computers in terminal, using
various commands, so It's VERY useful to know what computer you're
dealing with...)
:~ This shows the current directory and a unix shortcut. a tilde ~
is shorthand for 'the logged on user's home directory' (Which explains
the tee shirt I have that says There's no place like ~ :-)
johnson This shows the current user name. Since I can change to
other users, on the same computer, this is again, very useful
information.
Finally there's $ which is just an arbitrary symbol being used to
delineate the end of the prompt from whatever commands you may type.
All the action takes place in the window, not via menus.
You said The folder is within my boot OS10.3.9 partition which I'm
not entirely clear what you mean. This requires a short side trip into
How Unix is Organized so we can start talking the same language.
Conceptually, no matter how many disks or partitions you have, your
Mac organizes it's files as a single, large tree. Branches are
separated by '/' symbols and can either be directories (== folders in
the finder) or files.
Everything starts at the root (as trees do :-) which is always on the
boot partition, and everything is linked, so you can work out a single
route (called a 'path') from the root to any file or directory on the
system.
For example, I have a file called photo.jpg in my documents folder. If
you click on the your boot drive in the finder, you'll see a folder
that lists a number of folders System, Library, Users, etc.
Your user directory is in Users, and in the finder you would click on
your home directory and then documents to get to the folder holding
that file photo.jpg.
To get there in Terminal I type cd (change directory) followed by
the names of the folders enclosing it in a list, separated by '/'s:
cd /Users/johnson/Documents
And hit return.
dbdev2:~ johnson$ cd /Users/johnson/Documents
dbdev2:Documents johnson$
The command completes, but notice, the part befor 'johnson$' now says
Documents, which is the name of the current folder.
Since the command is done, and completed without error, I'm just left
again at a command prompt.
If I do the ls command ('list') It lists the names of those files:
dbdev2:Documents johnson$ ls
A Brief History of Doubt.dvdprojcamo drumstick II.s3d
Acrobat camo drumstick cx.jpg
Address Book - 8:13:07.abbu clarks list.xls
Adobe Readercomic_art.html
Advising Sheet.pdf comic_art_files
ArcSoft cop_email_totals.xls
...
And drops me back to a command prompt again.
If I type:
cd /
That takes me to the root of my whole system, and if I type ls, you'll
see some interesting things:
dbdev2:/ johnson$ ls
ApplicationsUsers
Desktop (Mac OS 9) Volumes
Desktop DB automount
Desktop DF bin
Desktop Folder cores
DesktopPrinters DB dev
Developer doc
Fetch Art.app etc
Installation Loghome
Library iWork '08 Install CD.dmg
Microsoft Office 2004.dmg mach
Network mach_kernel
OpenFolderListDF? mach_kernel.ctfsys
Perl_Bookshelf mds-crash-state
Presentation1.ppt net
Previous Systems.localized opt
SophosQuarantineprivate
StuffIt STD 703 Classic Install sbin
StuffItSTD703Classic.hqxsw
System tmp
TheVolumeSettingsFolder usr
Trash var
User Guides And Information
Some of these things (Applications, USers, System, etc) correspond to
things that you see in the Finder, some don't show, like etc, net,
usr, var
As you've probably guessed by now, unix was desinged to read like a
'if u cn rd ths, u cn mk gd mny' ad from the
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
D Stubbs wrote: OK, I have never opened Terminal App, interesting, it opened with a page titled Terminal-Bash-80x24 On this page it has 3 lines of text, but the cursor is not active on this page to enter anything, so I looked under Files menu and see something called New Shell and New Command, are one of these where I enter ? cd /Volumes/rest of the name The folder is within my boot OS10.3.9 partition, and looking at its contents I see it has iTunes and iPhoto material from last year I would like to re-capture - rather than just trash thanks much, Del You don't get the flashing vertical line cursor because you are not entering text as in a text editor. You get a block cursor for typing in commands. The cursor comes from old style terminals. Just go ahead and type in the commands, the characters will appear and the cursor will advance. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Whew, to think this stuff is translatable! But then some of my metallurgy horticulture discussions aren't much better... here goes...( rocky was our pet racoon of course) Del Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root admin 6148 29 Oct 2003 .DS_Store drw--- 7 root admin238 31 Mar 2008 .Spotlight-V100 d-wx-wx-wt 2 root admin 68 6 Apr 2008 .Trashes -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel156 12 Sep 2003 .hidden -rw--- 1 root admin 131072 12 May 2007 .hotfiles.btree dr--r--r-- 2 root wheel256 16 Dec 08:34 .vol drwxrwxr-x 78 root admin 2652 16 Dec 10:04 Applications -rw-r--r-- 1 rockywoo admin 0 31 Dec 1969 Desktop -rwxr-xr-x 1 rockywoo unknown 245760 8 Dec 07:51 Desktop DB -rwxr-xr-x 1 rockywoo unknown 557682 22 Aug 07:43 Desktop DF drwxr-xr-x 2 rockywoo unknown 68 31 Mar 2006 Desktop Folder -rw-r--r-- 1 rockywoo admin 18800 21 Dec 2006 Installer Log File drwxrwxr-t 41 root admin 1394 5 Aug 20:36 Library drwxrwxr-x 3 root admin102 1 Jun 2006 MacHelp.help drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel512 16 Dec 12:13 Network drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel136 27 May 2008 System drwxr-xr-x 2 rockywoo admin 68 6 Apr 2008 Temporary Items drwxr-xr-x 2 rockywoo unknown 68 1 Apr 2006 TheFindByContentFolder drwxr-xr-x 4 rockywoo unknown 136 3 Sep 2006 TheVolumeSettingsFolder drwxr-xr-x 2 rockywoo unknown 68 31 Mar 2006 Trash drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin136 28 Mar 2008 Users drwxrwxrwt 10 root admin340 16 Dec 10:27 Volumes -rw-r--r-- 1 rockywoo admin 0 14 Dec 18:20 Widgets drwxr-xr-x 4 root admin136 31 Dec 1969 automount drwxr-xr-x 35 root wheel 1190 14 Nov 2007 bin drwxrwxr-t 2 root admin 68 12 Sep 2003 cores dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel512 16 Dec 08:34 dev lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 1 Jun 2006 etc - private/etc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 9 16 Dec 08:34 mach - /mach.sym -r--r--r-- 1 root admin 571184 16 Dec 08:34 mach.sym -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel3872560 30 Mar 2005 mach_kernel drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel170 16 Dec 08:34 private drwxr-xr-x 62 root wheel 2108 14 Nov 2007 sbin lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 1 Jun 2006 tmp - private/tmp drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel374 18 Dec 2007 usr lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 1 Jun 2006 var - private/var Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 .. Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. They have to have different inode numbers or they would not (in theory) show up twice, but this is getting into Let me repair myself to Google for a while before I come up with an answer. I'll have to see how Inventory X shows things, and see if that offers a clue. Long story short, I think something went 'kablooey' in your disk directory at one point. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 .. Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. Do this in the same directory: ls -ai and just send the part corresponding to the above section... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
At 11:47 AM -0700 12/16/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 .. Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. whoa. yea. What he said. I've never seen that before! You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. They have to have different inode numbers or they would not (in theory) show up twice, but this is getting into Let me repair myself to Google for a while before I come up with an answer. Unless you find something simple, my instinct is to go for the sledgehammer. That volume cannot be trusted, so back up the user files, nuke, and repave. Do it NOW before the xtra .sinkhole swallows the universe. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Dan wrote: At 10:14 AM -0700 12/16/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: dbdev2 This is the name of the computer I'm using. While this may seem nonsensical and totally unimaginative. ug. Fix it. Unfortunately, if I rename it I have to fix a metric crapload of other stuff, and still put a cname entry for dbdev2 in our DNS hosts file. Besides it dates from pre-me here...when they got that 486/66 back in the day for the new database guy, they didn't know it was going to be me. It's got Tevve Traditin!/Tevve :-) I settle for naming my drives...Das Boot, Tardis (system and Time Machine drives respectively), and so forthat one point all my drives were named for Toho monsters (with icons to match)...I don't think I've EVER had a computer with Macintosh as the name of the drive :-) My home computers are called Swamp Thing and Jones (it started life as a Pismo, and well, I'd lived close to Long Island for a while...) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 12:55 PM, D Stubbs wrote: I hope this is what you wanted...don't know what you mean by 'corresponding to..', I'm in awe, are you folks really from planet earth? Me thinks I'm a mere mortal. we-are-from-planet-geek. :-) (a lovely Minus 26F here in MN on this piece of mortal earth) Ah yes my wife was chortling over seeing Duluth's temps this morning. (Her family is originally from there) It's a mild fall day here 8-P Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -ai 2 .202615 TheFindByContentFolder 2 .202475 TheVolumeSettingsFolder 2 .. 202479 Trash 409379 .DS_Store 1630453 Users 1810078 .Spotlight-V1007090 Volumes 19 .Trashes 707196 Widgets At this point, I'm going to go with Dan's suggestion. I think something's seriously wrong with your file system, and backing up your user data (alas, it means abandoning the stuff in that 'lost' directory, but I'm not sure you can actually get to it.) would be the way to go. If you have (or have access to) the utility Disk Warrior, I'd give it a shot, but your system is NOT supposed to look like that. Back up your stuff, pull out the 10.3 disk and boot from it, reformatting the drive (the last option in the options after you choose the install disk,they call it 'Erase and install') as you go. If you use OS 9, don't forget to check the 'Include OS 9 drivers' when you reformat. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2008, at 11:18 AM, D Stubbs wrote: Last login: Tue Dec 16 10:12:20 on ttyp1 Welcome to Darwin! Rocky-Woodys-Computer:~ rockywoody$ cd / Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -al total 10729 drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 . drwxrwxr-t 42 root admin 1428 16 Dec 08:34 .. Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. Do this in the same directory: ls -ai and just send the part corresponding to the above section... -= I hope this is what you wanted...don't know what you mean by 'corresponding to..', I'm in awe, are you folks really from planet earth? Me thinks I'm a mere mortal. (a lovely Minus 26F here in MN on this piece of mortal earth) Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ ls -ai 2 .202615 TheFindByContentFolder 2 .202475 TheVolumeSettingsFolder 2 .. 202479 Trash 409379 .DS_Store 1630453 Users 1810078 .Spotlight-V1007090 Volumes 19 .Trashes 707196 Widgets 214812 .hidden 206414 automount 45768 .hotfiles.btree 214387 bin 0 .vol 214813 cores 862 Applications 2 dev 408631 Desktop 214424 etc 521358 Desktop DB 2281599 mach 521357 Desktop DF 2281598 mach.sym 202480 Desktop Folder 833996 mach_kernel 734291 Installer Log File 21 private 2555 Library 214529 sbin 224151 MacHelp.help 214592 tmp 3 Network 214593 usr 209876 System 214805 var 1817721 Temporary Items Rocky-Woodys-Computer:/ rockywoody$ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. whoa. yea. What he said. I've never seen that before! You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. They have to have different inode numbers or they would not (in theory) show up twice, but this is getting into Let me repair myself to Google for a while before I come up with an answer. Unless you find something simple, my instinct is to go for the sledgehammer. That volume cannot be trusted, so back up the user files, nuke, and repave. Do it NOW before the xtra .sinkhole swallows the universe. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth === Nuke and re-pave , Oh No! This funny folder has some old iPhoto .jpg's and iTunes mp3's I'd sure like to salvage, Then I'll let Trash swallow the universe now. (This is why I am so timid about upgrading to Tiger my new 160 GB HD - Ignorance aint always bliss - it took my ignorant hands to create this tiny dot sized mess! ) Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 3:09 PM, D Stubbs wrote: Holy crap...this is going to be a bit more difficult than I thought. whoa. yea. What he said. I've never seen that before! You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. They have to have different inode numbers or they would not (in theory) show up twice, but this is getting into Let me repair myself to Google for a while before I come up with an answer. Unless you find something simple, my instinct is to go for the sledgehammer. That volume cannot be trusted, so back up the user files, nuke, and repave. Do it NOW before the xtra .sinkhole swallows the universe. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth === Nuke and re-pave , Oh No! This funny folder has some old iPhoto .jpg's and iTunes mp3's I'd sure like to salvage, Then I'll let Trash swallow the universe now. (This is why I am so timid about upgrading to Tiger my new 160 GB HD - Ignorance aint always bliss - it took my ignorant hands to create this tiny dot sized mess! ) Del Well, COPY the stupid things then. DO IT NOW, as a part of backing everything up. If you really want and need those files, take the time to get them. Don't just dither about and not do anything productive because the won't retrieve easily, you can either get them, or they are gone, and the entries you are slathering about are useless/ meaningless. JMNHO Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
At 2:09 PM -0600 12/16/2008, D Stubbs wrote: Nuke and re-pave , Oh No! I know. But at this point you cannot trust your file system. And if you can't trust that foundation, you can't trust the installed OS on it either. So grab what you can of your user data then ... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
At 1:55 PM -0600 12/16/2008, D Stubbs wrote: I'm in awe, are you folks really from planet earth? Me thinks I'm a mere mortal. (a lovely Minus 26F here in MN on this piece of mortal earth) But there is a price for such knowledge. Unix has been around since 1968. Long ago, the tomes overwrote socially relevant data in our brains - you know, those books we read in grade school, whole bible passages, advertising jingles, our first memories, last week's plot details of Lost Heroes BSG what was I saying? Oh yea. The good news is that because OS X has this ancient but stable underbelly, we can figure things out, hopefully. Sometimes. Unix _is_ user-friendly... it's just selective about who its friends are. There are two major products that came out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Bruce - I have a NIL-Shirt. ...The sleet is blowing at the house almost horizontally now, but it's only 34F. Just thinking of your -26 has me putting on a sweat-shirt. I need a warm cat. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Well, COPY the stupid things then. DO IT NOW, as a part of backing everything up. Of course I have ccc'd the entire partition already If you really want and need those files, take the time to get them. That is part what this discusson is , some folk helping me find how to get them, (sans slathering.) Simply ignore this thread from now on, you'll breathe easier, thanks Del Don't just dither about and not do anything productive because the won't retrieve easily, you can either get them, or they are gone, and the entries you are slathering about are useless/ meaningless. JMNHO Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
2008/12/15 Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com: At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those who want to add invisibility to files and folders they prefer nosy folk not casually find. But you still can't rename something to . Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
2008/12/16 MIKO .. miko.supp...@gmail.com: On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Charles Davis wrote: You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. What confuses me is why this problem wasn't found clearly and obviously with Disk Utility using verify? No clue but I've never trusted that program. -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
You do seem to have two identical '.' directories at the root of the drive; no additional characters showed up. What confuses me is why this problem wasn't found clearly and obviously with Disk Utility using verify? OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions', took 10 minutes, Then I went back to Disk Inventory X, but see no differences, still have a lost 40 acres of hard drive hiding under a period. Next, for fun I tried Disk Inventory X on the backup (made by CCC) of said partition and - Lo Behold!, the mystery '.' folder is gone and it is now down to 9 gig from 14. So good 'ol CCC seemed to have come to the rescue. I still would like to get my hands on whatever is inside that 5 gigs ( the jpgs in particular - to be sure that I have backups of them) before I dump this monster. You folks are de besta Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:37 PM, D Stubbs wrote: OK , I opened up disk utility, clicked on verify permissions, holy smokers what a pile of 'should be' files. So I clicked 'repair permissions', took 10 minutes, Then I went back to Disk Inventory X, but see no differences, still have a lost 40 acres of hard drive hiding under a period. Next, for fun I tried Disk Inventory X on the backup (made by CCC) of said partition and - Lo Behold!, the mystery '.' folder is gone and it is now down to 9 gig from 14. So good 'ol CCC seemed to have come to the rescue. I still would like to get my hands on whatever is inside that 5 gigs ( the jpgs in particular - to be sure that I have backups of them) before I dump this monster. You folks are de besta Del Well you repaired permissions but did you verify your disk? I'm thinking about Catalog B Trees, cross-linking, volume bitmaps- these kids of issues. I would not try a repair without a full backup but merely looking at permissions won't do much. Everyone always also recommends DiskWarrior but that costs $99. I'm also beginning to think that you may have fond evidence that dark matter exists- maybe your drive has somehow tapped into gravitational space outside the future cone of light! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony mentioning Inventory X - now I can see 6 gigs I dont need bloating space, wahoo! But for a little clarification... I am a blacksmith, not a puter xpert, so some of your sincere replies are a bit over my head, would it be helpful to have new members give a 1-10 rating of their computer saviness? I'd say 2 or 3 for me. Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. it must have happened a year back when I tried doing some updating after my puter guru friend got too sick to come out help anymore. I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I have more of your emails to reply to yet but think to just send this for now because it is the biggest problem thanks so much again, Del ( I still run our family biz website on Pagemill 3. I have installed a new seagate 160 GB hard drive inside our Sawtooth, but am waiting on the time to learn how to move over to it and upgrade to Tiger - as a handcraftsman in the sticks I'm a bit short on time to self learn puter stuff) On 15-Dec-08, at 12:32 PM, MIKO .. wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:05 AM, MnDel wrote: Hello, Since I keep getting 'startup disc is out of room' messages when I do a few pics in Photoshop, I totalled up everyting in my 15 GB 10.3.9 partition: (4 folders - Apps, Users, Library, System) and it came to only 8.2GB. However when I click 'get info' on this partition is shows less than 1GB free space with no apps running. I sure need to free up some HD space, where else should I look? Thanks!, Del G4 Sawtooth 500MHz 768 MB 10.3.9 I use a program called Disk Inventory X ( http://www.derlien.com/ ) that's great at giving a graphical representation of where my HD space is being used up. It shows everything, including hidden folders. - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
'.' indicates the root of the drive, i.e., open up the hard drive viewer and you are looking at '.' -- you can't delete that. You need some program that cleans temporary files, someone on the list maybe can suggest one? 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony mentioning Inventory X - now I can see 6 gigs I dont need bloating space, wahoo! But for a little clarification... I am a blacksmith, not a puter xpert, so some of your sincere replies are a bit over my head, would it be helpful to have new members give a 1-10 rating of their computer saviness? I'd say 2 or 3 for me. Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. it must have happened a year back when I tried doing some updating after my puter guru friend got too sick to come out help anymore. I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I have more of your emails to reply to yet but think to just send this for now because it is the biggest problem thanks so much again, Del ( I still run our family biz website on Pagemill 3. I have installed a new seagate 160 GB hard drive inside our Sawtooth, but am waiting on the time to learn how to move over to it and upgrade to Tiger - as a handcraftsman in the sticks I'm a bit short on time to self learn puter stuff) On 15-Dec-08, at 12:32 PM, MIKO .. wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:05 AM, MnDel wrote: Hello, Since I keep getting 'startup disc is out of room' messages when I do a few pics in Photoshop, I totalled up everyting in my 15 GB 10.3.9 partition: (4 folders - Apps, Users, Library, System) and it came to only 8.2GB. However when I click 'get info' on this partition is shows less than 1GB free space with no apps running. I sure need to free up some HD space, where else should I look? Thanks!, Del G4 Sawtooth 500MHz 768 MB 10.3.9 I use a program called Disk Inventory X ( http://www.derlien.com/ ) that's great at giving a graphical representation of where my HD space is being used up. It shows everything, including hidden folders. - Tony -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
For clarity, it *may* be that this is not the normal situation for the '.' root of the drive. That it was a folder accidently renamed by me instead (farbeit for me to know about roots of drives though) Below is what is listed in Disk Inventory X about this folder : Kind: folder (4) Size:4.8GB modified 6/16/06 created: 9/12/03 owner: group: Permission: drwx.. Path: /. Application: Disk Inventory X Format: HFS+ Mount Point/ Device: /dev/disk0s 10 I tried to trash it from Inventory X but it said I did not have permission thanks, Del On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Hunter Fuller hackmies...@gmail.comwrote: '.' indicates the root of the drive, i.e., open up the hard drive viewer and you are looking at '.' -- you can't delete that. You need some program that cleans temporary files, someone on the list maybe can suggest one? 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony mentioning Inventory X - now I can see 6 gigs I dont need bloating space, wahoo! But for a little clarification... I am a blacksmith, not a puter xpert, so some of your sincere replies are a bit over my head, would it be helpful to have new members give a 1-10 rating of their computer saviness? I'd say 2 or 3 for me. Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. it must have happened a year back when I tried doing some updating after my puter guru friend got too sick to come out help anymore. I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I have more of your emails to reply to yet but think to just send this for now because it is the biggest problem thanks so much again, Del ( I still run our family biz website on Pagemill 3. I have installed a new seagate 160 GB hard drive inside our Sawtooth, but am waiting on the time to learn how to move over to it and upgrade to Tiger - as a handcraftsman in the sticks I'm a bit short on time to self learn puter stuff) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
On 15-Dec-08, at 7:08 PM, D Stubbs wrote: I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I tried to trash it from Inventory X but it said I did not have permission thanks, Del You can show hidden files with this app: http://www.box.net/shared/d31o3bnamn To hide them again, use this app: http://www.box.net/shared/c8vebjaj6f Both of these re-launch the Finder, so close any other open apps first. - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: For clarity, it may be that this is not the normal situation for the '.' root of the drive. That it was a folder accidently renamed by me instead (farbeit for me to know about roots of drives though) Below is what is listed in Disk Inventory X about this folder : Kind: folder (4) Size:4.8GB modified 6/16/06 created: 9/12/03 owner: group: Permission: drwx.. Path: /. Application: Disk Inventory X Format: HFS+ Mount Point/ Device: /dev/disk0s 10 I tried to trash it from Inventory X but it said I did not have permission thanks, Del On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Hunter Fuller hackmies...@gmail.com wrote: '.' indicates the root of the drive, i.e., open up the hard drive viewer and you are looking at '.' -- you can't delete that. You need some program that cleans temporary files, someone on the list maybe can suggest one? 2008/12/15 D Stubbs dsmn...@gmail.com: Thankyou everyone! Thanks to Tony mentioning Inventory X - now I can see 6 gigs I dont need bloating space, wahoo! But for a little clarification... I am a blacksmith, not a puter xpert, so some of your sincere replies are a bit over my head, would it be helpful to have new members give a 1-10 rating of their computer saviness? I'd say 2 or 3 for me. Through Inventory X I see a folder in my 10.3.9 partition that has no more name than a 'period'. thats all [ . ] It has 4.3 gigs of duplicated user and administrator stuff - good grief. it must have happened a year back when I tried doing some updating after my puter guru friend got too sick to come out help anymore. I am confident this folder can be dumped ( thanks to you folks I have made a ccc backup now) However this 4.3 gig folder does not show up in the normal osx folder - how do I locate it so it can be trashed? I have more of your emails to reply to yet but think to just send this for now because it is the biggest problem thanks so much again, Del ( I still run our family biz website on Pagemill 3. I have installed a new seagate 160 GB hard drive inside our Sawtooth, but am waiting on the time to learn how to move over to it and upgrade to Tiger - as a handcraftsman in the sticks I'm a bit short on time to self learn puter stuff) -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those who want to add invisibility to files and folders they prefer nosy folk not casually find. Steve R -- Reopen NAFTA. Reclaim our sovereignty. http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature8.cfm?REF=333 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Hunter Fuller wrote: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. / is the root of the drive. . represents the current directory. And no, you should not be able to rename/name something .. But it might not be ., it might be . or .. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wow! (Missing 6 GB of space in OSX partition)
Steve R wrote: At 9:58 PM -0600 12/15/08, Hunter Fuller posted: You can't rename a folder to . - it is definitely the root of the drive. Yes. You can rename a folder with the leading (.) There is even an app that makes it easy to (.) and un(.) for those who want to add invisibility to files and folders they prefer nosy folk not casually find. This file was called simply . which you can't name a file to. Yes, you can add a . to the beginning of a filename but you can't make it just .. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
