Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-06-01 Thread Neil Hughes

On 04/09/2015 09:51 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Apr 9, 2015, at 1:37 PM, David Sutherland turn...@gmail.com wrote:

It might be easier just to buy a PCI USB 2.0 card if you can get them still. The one's I 
had success with in the G4 Quicksilver's had NEC chipsets.  That is important 
as the OS had drivers built in for that.



Any PCI USB2 card that offers OHCI will work out of the box; since this was 
also the requirement for Windows 7, pretty much any USB2.0 card on the market 
will work.

USB1.1 cards were a different story.



I've only just caught up with this threadI never realized that you 
could use off-the-shelf USB2 PCI cards with PPC Macs.


I recently bought a couple of Konig (NEC chipset, 4 external ports, one 
internal) USB2 cards off Amazon to use with OpenBSD (one is now in an 
old HP minitower with a motherboard ATI USB chipset that is not 
recognized), so when I read this thread I went off and swapped the 2nd 
Konig card for the unemployed Grappler SCSI in my BW G3 PowerMac.


It works fine under 10.4 - System Profiler reports an EHCI USB bus.

The HP flatbed scanner works fine, though I'm not seeing any noticeable 
speed-up.


A 16GB USB2 memory stick reads/writes at about 40 Mb/s, compared with 5 
Mb/s on an internal USB port and the USB1.1 Belkin card I added many 
years ago. That's marginally faster than on my 2009 Mac mini running 
Mavericks, before the latter's caching kicks in.


Thanks David  Bruce.
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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-06-01 Thread peterhaas

 I've only just caught up with this threadI never realized that you
 could use off-the-shelf USB2 PCI cards with PPC Macs.

A PCI solution which is often overlooked is this:

1) a PCI to Mini-PCI adapter which has one or more SMC connectors (for
antennae), only one is actually needed, and two is supported, but not
three,

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WiFi-54-108b-g-Mini-PCI-To-PCI-Converter-Adapter-Wireless-Card-New-/181697029741

2) a Dell (or other, but Dell seems to work best) Mini-PCI 802.11b/g or
802.11a/b/g or 802.11a/b/g/n card,

For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-LATITUDE-D400-D410-D500-D510-D600-D610-D800-D810-WIRELESS-WIFI-CARD-DW1370-/300678594593

The adapter shown has one antenna connector, and one is really all that is
needed.

An antenna is also required, and some ePay sellers are including antennae
with their cards.

The beauty of this solution is the Dell card is seen as an Airport Extreme
card OOTB by MacOS X.

It MAY be necessary to twiddle with the IO80211Family.kext to see some
cards as Airport Extreme, specifically the AppleAirPortBrcm43224.kext
plug-in, but most seem to work.

The above is a very cost-effective way to get real-deal Apple-compatible
Wi-Fi, without the use of drivers, as MacOS X already includes the
necessary driver.

I believe the Dell cards are actually using the Broadcomm 4318 chip set.



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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-04-09 Thread Kris Tilford
Cheap solution is buy a USB 2.0 PCI card and use the USB WIFI adapter you’ve 
been trying to use.

Alternative is buying a PCI WIFI adapter, but finding ones that are supported 
for PPC Macs under 10.4.11 may be difficult?

I’m guessing there are some 802.11n WIFI adapters that work for PPC under 
10.4.11 or 10.5.8., but it’s unlikely there are any current 802.11ac that work 
correctly.

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:48 PM, T payne blindsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've recently realized that the wifi adapter that I have been trying (on and 
 off, over the years) to use with my Digital Audio is incompatible because it 
 requires USB 2.0 ports. I've looked into the original airport card as a 
 solution, but I read that this was slow, though recognized natively. Is there 
 a better wifi card out there that will cooperate with a digital audio (with 
 OS 10.4.11) that would be faster and slightly more modern than airport? 
 thanks a lot.

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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-04-09 Thread James Knight
I'm almost positive that my old d-link 802.11g pci card was supported on my 
DA g4. I'll check the model number later but finding one on ebay for peanuts 
should be easy.

Sent from my mobile device.

 On Apr 9, 2015, at 14:43, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Cheap solution is buy a USB 2.0 PCI card and use the USB WIFI adapter you’ve 
 been trying to use.
 
 Alternative is buying a PCI WIFI adapter, but finding ones that are supported 
 for PPC Macs under 10.4.11 may be difficult?
 
 I’m guessing there are some 802.11n WIFI adapters that work for PPC under 
 10.4.11 or 10.5.8., but it’s unlikely there are any current 802.11ac that 
 work correctly.
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:48 PM, T payne blindsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've recently realized that the wifi adapter that I have been trying (on and 
 off, over the years) to use with my Digital Audio is incompatible because it 
 requires USB 2.0 ports. I've looked into the original airport card as a 
 solution, but I read that this was slow, though recognized natively. Is 
 there a better wifi card out there that will cooperate with a digital audio 
 (with OS 10.4.11) that would be faster and slightly more modern than 
 airport? thanks a lot.
 
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Re: best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-04-09 Thread peterhaas

 Cheap solution is buy a USB 2.0 PCI card and use the USB WIFI adapter
 you’ve been trying to use.

Most so-called USB 2.0 WiFi dongles will indeed work on USB 1.1.

Check the support list, though, as not all of these will support PPC Macs
(but some will).


 Alternative is buying a PCI WIFI adapter, but finding ones that are
 supported for PPC Macs under 10.4.11 may be difficult?

Check the IO80211.kext contents for the list of supported devices under
10.4.11.

Now, 10.4.8 was the first Intel supported version, and I do believe that
WiFi was supported thereupon, PROVIDED the plug-in's plist had the proper
device coded added to it.

I am using legacy PCI WiFi adapters from Chinese sources with a Dell
Mini-PCI (NOT Mini-PCI-e, but those are available, too).

These are supported ... at least on Intel platforms ... as gen-u-wine
Airport cards, once the Broadcom plist has been updated.


As an aside for those with failed Ethernet ports ...

There is a Fast Ethernet (10/100) dongle which utilizes the Kawasaki Logic
9700 chip, and the mini CD which is supplied has drivers for PPC, Intel_32
(i386) and Intel_64 (x86_64) included.


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best wifi solution for powermac Digital Audio

2015-04-08 Thread T payne
I've recently realized that the wifi adapter that I have been trying (on 
and off, over the years) to use with my Digital Audio is incompatible 
because it requires USB 2.0 ports. I've looked into the original airport 
card as a solution, but I read that this was slow, though recognized 
natively. Is there a better wifi card out there that will cooperate with a 
digital audio (with OS 10.4.11) that would be faster and slightly more 
modern than airport? thanks a lot.

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