Re: A Simple Solution to the eMac Hard Drive Issue
On Dec 2, 1:20 am, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: As for danger, I seriously doubt it's that dangerous. I suppose you are sort of opening up a CRT monitor, which can be dangerous, just stay away from the components in the actual CRT, and if you are worried about it, I'm sure there are measures that can be taken in order to drain any electricity from the CRT before you work on it. Most (all?) CRT flybacks since the late 80s have a built in bleeder circuit to drain off the CRT charge after the system is powered down. I strongly doubt that there is any electrical shock danger from an unplugged eMac. Also, while the voltage is high, the current and available power is tiny. You'd have to be fantastically unlucky to be injured even if you were to touch a charged CRT. The *only* time I've been shocked by a CRT was when I went to discharge an old Mac 512K. Trying to avoid being shocked by discharging the CRT is the exact thing which caused me to be shocked. Better to just stay away from the CRT/flyback connection rather than attempt to discharge it. And that shock, it was uncomfortable, but hardly injurious. Then again, I've been electrocuted by wall current more times than I count and the only time it had any effect beyond discomfort was the one time I got a 220V jolt from the mains on an electric water heater. That did knock be back a bit. So maybe I just have some of relation to Uncle Fester. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A Simple Solution to the eMac Hard Drive Issue
On 2010/12/02 09:08, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: Most (all?) CRT flybacks since the late 80s have a built in bleeder circuit to drain off the CRT charge after the system is powered down. There's always the remote possibility that the bleeder circuit is damaged or non-functioning for some reason. Better safe than sorry. maybe I just have some of relation to Uncle Fester. Do you prefer incandescent or CFL? :-p Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
A Simple Solution to the eMac Hard Drive Issue
Hello, You do not need to put your new hard drive in the eMac. Put the new hard drive in an external case, and plug it into the eMac. Bruce Sugarberg = Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tom tba...@nmia.com mailto:tba...@nmia.com wrote: So, I called the local Apple store (in Albuquerque) to see if they'd put the drive in for me, and was told that we don't service older Macs. And that one is even dangerous to open up. Well, thanks for nothing, Apple. Just how new does a Mac have to be before an Apple technician will service it? Brand new, or nearly so? And do you really build computers so dangerous that even an Apple tech is afraid to open it up? What kind of a crummy company is this, anyway? Methinks they really need some competition. As it is, they obviously feel free to jettison owners of their products once those products have passed a certain age. __ Well there are a lot of loyal Macheads thinking the same thing. but with so many new ones spending big bucks on the glamorous new models do you think Apple cares? A month or so ago some other revelations of the new Mac order were made. Their lack of care about low end users or long time users is classic hubris. It deserves an equitable consumer response. Nothing lasts forever. Despite all the Old macs live for ever rah-rah BS still seen here. A warm wet cloth on the eyes should clear out the illusions. The smiling friendly Mac Guy has become demented. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com mailto:fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.youtube.com/fluxstringer http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com http://remnantsofthestorm.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A Simple Solution to the eMac Hard Drive Issue
On 2010/12/01 19:48, Bruce so eloquently wrote: You do not need to put your new hard drive in the eMac. Put the new hard drive in an external case, and plug it into the eMac. Yes that will work, though I believe the throughput of the internal bus is faster than an external firewire drive. I have not worked on an eMac but I did own a late G3 iMac and I believe both can be worked on without too much difficulty - certainly easier than a clamshell iBook. If you take the appropriate precautions as previously mentioned, and pay attention to what goes where (an ice cube tray can be helpful for keeping screws segregated) you'll be ok. Assuming you have some very basic mechanical electronic aptitude. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: A Simple Solution to the eMac Hard Drive Issue
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/12/01 19:48, Bruce so eloquently wrote: You do not need to put your new hard drive in the eMac. Put the new hard drive in an external case, and plug it into the eMac. Yes that will work, though I believe the throughput of the internal bus is faster than an external firewire drive. I have not worked on an eMac but I did own a late G3 iMac and I believe both can be worked on without too much difficulty - certainly easier than a clamshell iBook. If you take the appropriate precautions as previously mentioned, and pay attention to what goes where (an ice cube tray can be helpful for keeping screws segregated) you'll be ok. Assuming you have some very basic mechanical electronic aptitude. Tina I couldn't agree more Tina. I have personally worked on both the eMac, the iMac G3, and the Clamshell iBook. And yes the eMac and iMac are both easier than than the Clamshell. I had never opened up an eMac before when I first upgraded the optical drive in the original 700MHZ model. The biggest pain is the wire mesh that you will have to remove. I'm not sure if it is even necessary to put it back on, but the only way to do so, will require cutting some of the mesh away, especially around the corners. (You'll see what I mean if you take the machine apart). Other than that, just keep track of the screws and you'll be fine. The newer models actually don't have the mesh, it's just good old metal, which is A LOT easier to work with. (I replaced a hard drive in a 1.25GHZ eMac). As for danger, I seriously doubt it's that dangerous. I suppose you are sort of opening up a CRT monitor, which can be dangerous, just stay away from the components in the actual CRT, and if you are worried about it, I'm sure there are measures that can be taken in order to drain any electricity from the CRT before you work on it. Overall I think it's totally doable. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: emac hard drive
On Jun 17, 8:21 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: deftone_75 wrote: Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so much You can but only externally via FireWire (preferred) or USB. Considering the price of HDs it's pretty trivial to replace the 80Gb with a much bigger drive. I recently had to replace the HD in my Mini. When I looked around I found a 320Gb drive for something like $80 and that is for a laptop drive. So instead of adding a drive just replace it with a big enough drive. And after that, you can put the 80GB into a Firewire enclosure and make it a bootable alternative and a backup for your Users folder. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac hard drive
Al Poulin wrote: On Jun 17, 8:21 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: deftone_75 wrote: Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so much You can but only externally via FireWire (preferred) or USB. Considering the price of HDs it's pretty trivial to replace the 80Gb with a much bigger drive. I recently had to replace the HD in my Mini. When I looked around I found a 320Gb drive for something like $80 and that is for a laptop drive. So instead of adding a drive just replace it with a big enough drive. And after that, you can put the 80GB into a Firewire enclosure and make it a bootable alternative and a backup for your Users folder. That and putting it in the FW enclosure is the easiest way of transferring your data or whole disk over to the new drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
emac hard drive
Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so much --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac hard drive
On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 PM, deftone_75 wrote: Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Internally, there is no space, unless you remove the optical drive and cobble up a bracket to hold the second drive. Your best bet would be to add an external drive -- either firewire or USB. -- Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac hard drive
If you go with an external hard drive I would definately reccommnd a firewire drive. USB sucks on mac. Firewire is definately the way to go. -Jonas On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Jim Scottjesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:11 PM, deftone_75 wrote: Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Internally, there is no space, unless you remove the optical drive and cobble up a bracket to hold the second drive. Your best bet would be to add an external drive -- either firewire or USB. -- Jim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac hard drive
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jonas Ulrichjonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: USB sucks on mac. Firewire is definately the way to go. While I wouldn't completely agree that USB 2.0 sucks compared to Firewire, I have no problem asserting that USB 2.0 is definitely a lot less special than Firewire is when it comes to throughput for an external drive. I have found this to be true regardless of the platform. Firewire is (slightly but definitely) better than USB 2.0 on both a Mac and a PC. (At least in my experience). That said, I saw my first USB 3.0 article today. Dang! And I was just beginning to reconcile myself to a world dominated by USB 2.0 and eSATA ... -irrationa john --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: emac hard drive
deftone_75 wrote: Does anyone know if I can add a second hard drive to my emac? It is 1.25 Ghz 1gb ram 80 gb HD, 10.5.7 usb 2.0 superdrive model. Thanks so much You can but only externally via FireWire (preferred) or USB. Considering the price of HDs it's pretty trivial to replace the 80Gb with a much bigger drive. I recently had to replace the HD in my Mini. When I looked around I found a 320Gb drive for something like $80 and that is for a laptop drive. So instead of adding a drive just replace it with a big enough drive. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
