Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dan]

At 6:14 PM -0700 9/26/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Dan wrote:
>  > If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter
>>  what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that
>  > fear.  The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs...
>
>Or any song out of Apple's catalog now...it's all DRM-free, has been
>for quite a while. AAC is an open, standard format.
>
>And let us be extremely clear..it's NEVER been APPLE that could screw
>us, it was the music publishers who forced DRM on us.

WRT DRM itself, I agree.  But Apple's control of said DRM 
(?Fairplay?) will leave you with unplayable music if the iTunes Store 
should be closed.

Really tho, I wasn't thinking of the DRM.  I was thinking about the 
poor quality of Apple's music tracks, in the first place.  For that 
xtra $, they may be be DRM-free now, but they're *still* 
pre-equalized / sampled / tuned for ear buds -- so they smell like 
padadodo on a real sound system or when compared to a half-decent CD 
rip.

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Bruce Johnson]

On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Dan wrote:

>
> If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter
> what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that
> fear.  The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs...



Or any song out of Apple's catalog now...it's all DRM-free, has been  
for quite a while. AAC is an open, standard format.



And let us be extremely clear..it's NEVER been APPLE that could screw  
us, it was the music publishers who forced DRM on us.

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dan]

At 1:39 PM -0700 9/26/2009, Roger Kulp wrote:
>This has me worried. I use a G4.Apple keeps updating iTunes all the 
>time.I have a LOT of stuff in my iTunes,some I can't download 
>again,I don't want to lose access to it.

"this"?

You can run iTunes 9 on a G4, so just use iTunes 9.

If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter 
what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that 
fear.  The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs...

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dan]

At 3:57 PM -0400 9/26/2009, Dana Collins wrote:
>On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent
>  > Like all things iTunes, start at
>>  
>>
>>  Click on the "download" button.  Scroll down, past the Requirements
>>  section.  Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click
>>  on the "G3 Mac Users" link.  That will take you to an official page
>  > that offers version 8.2.1.
>
>Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was
>concerned with the "for G3" descriptive, which would certainly rule out my
>G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on
>what machine it's installed on?

AFAIK, it is the normal build - the same offered via SU originally.

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Roger Kulp]

This has me worried.I use a G4.Apple keeps updating iTunes all the time.I have 
a LOT of stuff in my iTunes,some I can't download again,I don't want to lose 
access to it.
                                        Roger




--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Dana Collins  wrote:

From: Dana Collins 
Subject: Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 1:57 PM


On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

> 
> At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote:
> 
> Please remember to post *plain text* to these LEM Lists.
> 
> [HTML, fonting, *and* colors removed]
>> On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent
>>> iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall
>>>  not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest
>>>  store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to
>>> 8.2.1 for now.
>> 
>> Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at
>> <http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac>http://en.k
>> ioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac
>> But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes.
> 
> It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other
> than its official repository.  Failing to do so is how people got
> infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in
> January.
> 
> 
> Like all things iTunes, start at
> <http://www.apple.com/itunes>
> 
> Click on the "download" button.  Scroll down, past the Requirements
> section.  Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click
> on the "G3 Mac Users" link.  That will take you to an official page
> that offers version 8.2.1.
> 
> - Dan.

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was
concerned with the "for G3" descriptive, which would certainly rule out my
G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on
what machine it's installed on?
Thanks,
Dana







  
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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dana Collins]

On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

> 
> At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote:
> 
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>> On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent
>>> iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall
>>>  not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest
>>>  store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to
>>> 8.2.1 for now.
>> 
>> Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at
>> http://en.k
>> ioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac
>> But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes.
> 
> It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other
> than its official repository.  Failing to do so is how people got
> infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in
> January.
> 
> 
> Like all things iTunes, start at
> 
> 
> Click on the "download" button.  Scroll down, past the Requirements
> section.  Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click
> on the "G3 Mac Users" link.  That will take you to an official page
> that offers version 8.2.1.
> 
> - Dan.

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was
concerned with the "for G3" descriptive, which would certainly rule out my
G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on
what machine it's installed on?
Thanks,
Dana



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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dan]

At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote:

Please remember to post *plain text* to these LEM Lists.

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>On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent
>  > iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall
>>  not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest
>>  store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to
>  > 8.2.1 for now.
>
>Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at
>http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac
>But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes.

It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other 
than its official repository.  Failing to do so is how people got 
infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in 
January.


Like all things iTunes, start at


Click on the "download" button.  Scroll down, past the Requirements 
section.  Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click 
on the "G3 Mac Users" link.  That will take you to an official page 
that offers version 8.2.1.

- Dan.
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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dana Collins]

On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent

> 
> At 6:37 AM -0400 9/25/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
>> I am running a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4 with 2  GB of RAM, but I have
>> yet to download the latest iTunes.  I recall a discussion on this
>> List regarding iTunes 9, that included some complaints about iTunes 9
>> being slow on older Macs.
>> 
>> What is the final verdict on iTunes 9?
> 
> iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall
> not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest
> store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to
> 8.2.1 for now.
> 
> - Dan.

Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at
http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac
But no 8.2.1 ­ oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes.
Best regards,
Dana

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Tanner Peavler]

I myself have not yet updated iTunes 9 but I might be soon, today I got my
weekly apple email and they had some new tv shows for free and I wanted to
get them but couldn't because I don't have the latest iTunes. So it looks
like to buy anything from the iTunes store you have to have the latest
software.


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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Po-en Tsai]

On 26/09/2009, at 1:03 AM, Dan wrote:

> iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall
> not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest
> store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to
> 8.2.1 for now.

iTunes 9 is slower on my Mac's, but I notice that it starts up much  
faster than the previous version.

Thanks,
Po-en Tsai

-- eMac G4 1GHz running OSX 10.4 and 10.5, 60gb HDD with 1GB ram.  
Super speedy! iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS  
9.2.2, 80gb HDD with 768MB ram. Rather Fast!





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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Dan]

At 6:37 AM -0400 9/25/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote:
>I am running a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4 with 2  GB of RAM, but I have
>yet to download the latest iTunes.  I recall a discussion on this
>List regarding iTunes 9, that included some complaints about iTunes 9
>being slow on older Macs.
>
>What is the final verdict on iTunes 9?

iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall 
not that much slower than previous releases.  If you need the latest 
store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to 
8.2.1 for now.

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Re: iTunes 9 on a G4

[Peter]

On Sep 25, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

>
> Listers,
>
> I am running a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4 with 2  GB of RAM, but I have
> yet to download the latest iTunes.  I recall a discussion on this
> List regarding iTunes 9, that included some complaints about iTunes 9
> being slow on older Macs.
>
> What is the final verdict on iTunes 9?
>
>
>
>
> Larry

It still is slow.  :-)

Peter M.


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iTunes 9 on a G4

[Lawrence David Eden]

Listers,

I am running a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4 with 2  GB of RAM, but I have 
yet to download the latest iTunes.  I recall a discussion on this 
List regarding iTunes 9, that included some complaints about iTunes 9 
being slow on older Macs.

What is the final verdict on iTunes 9?




Larry

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