Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
On 20/07/2009, at 3:46 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:11 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I took out all pci devices and all the ram except the original 2 512MB chips, ran applejack, verified disk and repaired permissions, and during software update a bunch of text appeared on the screen, and part of it says Sysytem Failure: CPU=0. Does this mean that the cpu is failing? -Jonas On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. was supposed to be simplify hardware used, then add things back one at a time ... something like that. I'm sorry, but I do not know. After removing the PCI cards, did you also push the CUDA button? and use cmd-opt-P-R at Startup? I searched and cannot come up with a mobo diagram for the MDD, to find the CUDA button for you ... I'm sure its out there. I believe you said b4, what is a CUDA ... its important to know that ... but, I cannot continue tonight. Does the MDD have one? My QS 2002 does. Maybe you should wait for the guru's of the G3-G5 list? ... G'day This might help http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95035 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939?viewlocale=en_US Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
On 20/07/2009, at 3:55 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: On 20/07/2009, at 3:46 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:11 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I took out all pci devices and all the ram except the original 2 512MB chips, ran applejack, verified disk and repaired permissions, and during software update a bunch of text appeared on the screen, and part of it says Sysytem Failure: CPU=0. Does this mean that the cpu is failing? -Jonas On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. was supposed to be simplify hardware used, then add things back one at a time ... something like that. I'm sorry, but I do not know. After removing the PCI cards, did you also push the CUDA button? and use cmd-opt-P-R at Startup? I searched and cannot come up with a mobo diagram for the MDD, to find the CUDA button for you ... I'm sure its out there. I believe you said b4, what is a CUDA ... its important to know that ... but, I cannot continue tonight. Does the MDD have one? My QS 2002 does. Maybe you should wait for the guru's of the G3-G5 list? ... G'day This might help http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95035 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939?viewlocale=en_US Regards Santa Here's an actual MMD board. http://tinyurl.com/n5v2xs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:08 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day This might help http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95035 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939?viewlocale=en_US Regards Santa Here's an actual MMD board. http://tinyurl.com/n5v2xs Super Great References ... Thanks, Santa. CUDA and PMU are pretty much the same thing, AFAIK ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
The MDD does have a cuda/pmu it's located near the battery. Do use the URLs provided by Brain, and do follow instructions to only press once. Hold down for about 3 sec. If you haven't done this yet it could solve all. Also see URL below for power button issues on the MDD. http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27071?viewlocale=en_US jfMac On Jul 20, 8:24 am, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:08 AM, Brian Christmas wrote: G'day This might help http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95035 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939?viewlocale=en_US Regards Santa Here's an actual MMD board. http://tinyurl.com/n5v2xs Super Great References ... Thanks, Santa. CUDA and PMU are pretty much the same thing, AFAIK ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
mdd kernel panic how to read it?
I had a kernel panic on a troublesome mdd powermac. here is the message: Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x018C PC=0x000AC040 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x3559FC80) PC=0x000AC040; MSR=0x1030; DAR=0x018C; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x3820; R1=0xFC14FC27; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: backtrace terminated - unaligned frame address: 0xFC14FC27 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x3559FC80) previously dumped as Latest state. skipping... Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0 caller 0x0003): 0x300 - Data access Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x000954F8 0x00095A10 0x00026898 0x000A8204 0x000ABB80 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x3559FC80) PC=0x000AC040; MSR=0x1030; DAR=0x018C; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x3820; R1=0xFC14FC27; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: backtrace terminated - unaligned frame address: 0xFC14FC27 Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Model: PowerMac3,6, BootROM 4.4.8f2, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (3.3), 1 GHz, 1.38 GB Graphics: ATY,Rage128Pro, ATY,Rage128Pro, AGP, 16 MB Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM2/J23, 128 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM3/J20, 256 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Network Service: Built-in Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 PCI Card: usb, usb, SLOT-4 PCI Card: ADPT,1686806-04, scsi, SLOT-5 Parallel ATA Device: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R1312, 34.45 MB Parallel ATA Device: IOMEGA ZIP 750 ATAPI Parallel ATA Device: IBM-IC35L060AVV207-0, 57.27 GB USB Device: 3500-4500 Series, Lexmark, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, Logitech, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA What does this mean? Thanks! -Jonas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Model: PowerMac3,6, BootROM 4.4.8f2, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (3.3), 1 GHz, 1.38 GB Graphics: ATY,Rage128Pro, ATY,Rage128Pro, AGP, 16 MB Memory Module: DIMM0/J21, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM1/J22, 512 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM2/J23, 128 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Memory Module: DIMM3/J20, 256 MB, DDR SDRAM, PC2100U-25330 Network Service: Built-in Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 PCI Card: usb, usb, SLOT-4 PCI Card: ADPT,1686806-04, scsi, SLOT-5 Parallel ATA Device: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R1312, 34.45 MB Parallel ATA Device: IOMEGA ZIP 750 ATAPI Parallel ATA Device: IBM-IC35L060AVV207-0, 57.27 GB USB Device: 3500-4500 Series, Lexmark, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA USB Device: Hub in Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/ sec, 500 mA USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, Logitech, Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 100 mA USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA What does this mean? Thanks! Not able to read a dump ... But I would suggest removing the PCI cards you don't need at first (USB in Slot 4? and a SCSI one in Slot5?) and the extra USB devices and see if you can get a clean boot. Just have 1 KB and Mouse attached. Not the wireless ones which if batteries are weak, could be acting as a flaky USB device. You might reduce the RAM also, to just the 2 512MB sticks, or even just 1 of them. Run for awhile, maybe do an applejack auto pilot run to straighten out things. Then go back and add things one at a time to see if you can continue running. i also found booting into Safe Mode and then Restarting can also straighten out caches required for new hardware configurations, as suggested by the G3-G5 gurus. Let it run for awhile looking at Activity Monitor cpu to see when things calm down ... it has to do some system maintenance after a Safe Boot building some type of kextcache ... I'm still somewhat of a layman with things, but I just straightened out a QS 2002 by replacing the mobo and RAM and have a couple of PCI cards as well. And 2 sets of KBs and Mouses, one set which is wireless. / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. Good luck. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
On Jul 19, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. was supposed to be simplify hardware used, then add things back one at a time ... something like that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
I took out all pci devices and all the ram except the original 2 512MB chips, ran applejack, verified disk and repaired permissions, and during software update a bunch of text appeared on the screen, and part of it says Sysytem Failure: CPU=0. Does this mean that the cpu is failing? -Jonas On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.netwrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. was supposed to be simplify hardware used, then add things back one at a time ... something like that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mdd kernel panic how to read it?
On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:11 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I took out all pci devices and all the ram except the original 2 512MB chips, ran applejack, verified disk and repaired permissions, and during software update a bunch of text appeared on the screen, and part of it says Sysytem Failure: CPU=0. Does this mean that the cpu is failing? -Jonas On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jul 19, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: / hardware used, then add things back one at a time. was supposed to be simplify hardware used, then add things back one at a time ... something like that. I'm sorry, but I do not know. After removing the PCI cards, did you also push the CUDA button? and use cmd-opt-P-R at Startup? I searched and cannot come up with a mobo diagram for the MDD, to find the CUDA button for you ... I'm sure its out there. I believe you said b4, what is a CUDA ... its important to know that ... but, I cannot continue tonight. Does the MDD have one? My QS 2002 does. Maybe you should wait for the guru's of the G3-G5 list? ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
