Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4

[Julio Sanchez]

Nikola:

Try to install the .deb package creates, and that works for me correctly (I
also use gambas.3.5.4)

Regards,

Julio

2015-09-07 7:13 GMT+02:00 Fabien Bodard :

> Yes... Upgrade
> Le 7 sept. 2015 00:38, "Nikola Rogozarski"  a
> écrit
> :
>
> > Problem !!! I use, Debian 8, and Gambas 3.5.4
> > I made a simple prоgram and when I wanted to make package installation, I
> > have the following problem
> >
> > The package build has failed.
> > Package.MakeDebPackage.868: 'dpkg-buildpackage' has failed.
> >
> > Is there any solution to this
> >
> > [System]
> > Gambas=3.5.4
> > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > Kernel=3.16.0-4-amd64
> > Architecture=x86_64
> > Distribution=debian 8.2
> > Desktop=KDE4
> > Theme=QPlastique
> > Language=en_US.UTF-8
> > Memory=8002M
> > [Libraries]
> > Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11400.0
> > Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> > DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.13
> > GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.404.0
> > GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.25
> > OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> > Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
> > Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> > SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> >
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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4

[Nikola Rogozarski]

Thanks Julio!
If I understand you well, although there is an error, .deb package will
work well ???
I tried to run with gdebi but without success.

Since I use KDE, I tried to run the .deb package with apper installer and
apper installer, do the job.

But I think this is not the solution. What if the other machine has Mate
desktop or XFCE ...???

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Julio Sanchez 
wrote:

> Nikola:
>
> Try to install the .deb package creates, and that works for me correctly (I
> also use gambas.3.5.4)
>
> Regards,
>
> Julio
>
> 2015-09-07 7:13 GMT+02:00 Fabien Bodard :
>
> > Yes... Upgrade
> > Le 7 sept. 2015 00:38, "Nikola Rogozarski"  a
> > écrit
> > :
> >
> > > Problem !!! I use, Debian 8, and Gambas 3.5.4
> > > I made a simple prоgram and when I wanted to make package
> installation, I
> > > have the following problem
> > >
> > > The package build has failed.
> > > Package.MakeDebPackage.868: 'dpkg-buildpackage' has failed.
> > >
> > > Is there any solution to this
> > >
> > > [System]
> > > Gambas=3.5.4
> > > OperatingSystem=Linux
> > > Kernel=3.16.0-4-amd64
> > > Architecture=x86_64
> > > Distribution=debian 8.2
> > > Desktop=KDE4
> > > Theme=QPlastique
> > > Language=en_US.UTF-8
> > > Memory=8002M
> > > [Libraries]
> > > Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11400.0
> > > Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
> > > DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.13
> > > GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.404.0
> > > GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.25
> > > OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
> > > Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
> > > Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
> > > SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
> > >
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[Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4

[Nikola Rogozarski]

Problem !!! I use, Debian 8, and Gambas 3.5.4
I made a simple prоgram and when I wanted to make package installation, I
have the following problem

The package build has failed.
Package.MakeDebPackage.868: 'dpkg-buildpackage' has failed.

Is there any solution to this

[System]
Gambas=3.5.4
OperatingSystem=Linux
Kernel=3.16.0-4-amd64
Architecture=x86_64
Distribution=debian 8.2
Desktop=KDE4
Theme=QPlastique
Language=en_US.UTF-8
Memory=8002M
[Libraries]
Cairo=libcairo.so.2.11400.0
Curl=libcurl.so.4.3.0
DBus=libdbus-1.so.3.8.13
GStreamer=libgstreamer-1.0.so.0.404.0
GTK+=libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.2400.25
OpenGL=libGL.so.1.2.0
Poppler=libpoppler.so.46.0.0
Qt4=libQtCore.so.4.8.6
SDL=libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.4
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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Sebastian Kulesz]

Gambas 3.5.4 has just been pushed to the new repository. You can add it
executing:

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gambas-team/gambas3

If you have the previous PPA added, this one will just supersede it and
update Gambas using the new packages. If you are in a production
environment, do not update just yet.
For this reason, if you do update, please leave some feedback saying if it
is working as expected or if something is broken.

I want to thank those who proposed to help me. I was able to set apart some
time to work on this though, but thanks a lot anyway! :)


PS: I will be adding a Lucid build later today or tomorrow.


On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Ian Haywood ihayw...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Caveat gam...@caveat.demon.co.uk wrote:
  I have Ubuntu here, was hoping someone else would volunteer first so I
  didn't have to... :-D
 
  I haven't packaged before but know my way around bash scripts, svn, git
  and the like.
 start with the debian packaging guidelines to get an idea of how the
 system works in general. https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
 Next, download the debian 3.5.4 packages in sid.
 https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/gambas3 [look at the bottom of the
 page]

 These debian packages will compile as-is on later versions of ubuntu,
 all you will need to do is change the name of the target distro in
 debian/changelog from unstable to raring, quantic or whatever.
 Your problem is going to be the older versions, some gambas3
 subpackages [gb.jit, gb.media, possibly a couple of others] just won't
 compile as the relevant libraries are too old. You will need to
 produce versions of gambas3 that don't have those subpackages.

 [as an aside, this is why I've never bothered producing a version for
 debian stable, lots of stuff won't compile and so the reality is most
 debian people who want to run an up-to-date gambas will need to
 upgrade their whole system anyway]


 Ian


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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Caveat]

I have Ubuntu here, was hoping someone else would volunteer first so I 
didn't have to... :-D

I haven't packaged before but know my way around bash scripts, svn, git 
and the like.

Let me know what I can do to help (bear in mind I may need a little help 
to get me going in the right direction but I'm a quick learner and know 
Ubuntu already for many years)

Kind regards,
Caveat

On 12/07/14 22:41, Sebastian Kulesz wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Willy Raets wi...@earthshipbelgium.be
 wrote:

 On za, 2014-07-12 at 02:38 -0300, Sebastian Kulesz wrote:
 Hey! Long time no see.

 I got word a few hours ago that Kendek won't be maintaining the Stable
 PPA
 any more. Instead, he created a new PPA under the gambas-team Launchpad
 name and uploaded the current stable (3.5.3) packages so they can be
 updated by us.
 I've seen his PPA has been archived and mailed him. He told me the same.

 The thing is, I don't have ubuntu installed in my computer as i don't
 need
 it to manage the Daily Builds PPA. The problem arises when trying to push
 Gambas 3.5.4 to the Stable PPA using the same method i'm using for the
 Daily Builds. To do this, i have to bisect 3 repositories to find the
 revision which corresponds to the release of the 5.* branch. Right now,
 this repositories correspond to the next release of Gambas (3.6). So,
 even
 if i were to do the bisection and find the working revision, the builds
 would still differ from the one Kendek made.
 Could you not simply take from svn 3.5 branch, instead of picking
 revisions, or am I understanding this wrong?

 We are talking about different repositories. I will use a different method
 to package Gambas because i don't have ubuntu installed. Some of the
 advantages are the ones i explained in the first email. I can't use the
 same method as kendek because i don't have ubuntu installed.
 Currently, there is a common branch which holds common files from the
 /debian folder used to generate the source files, and the series specific
 repositories for each ubuntu version we support in the PPA. You can look
 here [0] for those.

 The thing is, these repositories are in sync with trunk, they hold the new
 components information, installation rules and dependencies. I don't track
 minor version releases because it is pointless to do so for the Daily
 Builds PPA. So, to build for the Stable PPA, i have to go back in history
 an look for the first change made to the packaging structure for Gambas
 3.5.99, aka 3.6.


 Because of this, I decided not to package this release in the new PPA for
 now. Different package methods can introduce bugs that should not exist
 in
 a stable distribution.
 Don't get me wrong, with enough time, i know it can be done. But i'm
 currently studying for finals and time is really scarce.
 I'm glad you are willing to take up this job, but your finals go first,
 so we will be patient.:)

 I will be done next thursday. As soon as i get home i will start working on
 a fix for the stable PPA.


 If anybody is up for the job, please let me know. If it's not too time
 consuming i will do my best to help get it done.
 I wish I knew how to package, have been reading about it and was advised
 to start with simple packages. Packaging Gambas doesn't seem a good
 point of start for learning how to package debs in general.


 Next week, once i'm done, i will fix the repositories to also build the
 Stable releases, but until the next major release I won't label it as
 stable. I don't want to put extra work where it is not needed.

 Bad news aside, this move brings the possibility for automatic Beta
 builds.
 This ones will be based off the current stable branch, and be updated
 every
 time there is a merge from trunk to backport a bugfix.
 This shortens the window of getting a fix for a stopping bug from months
 to
 24 hours! :)

 Sounds promising, looking forward to it and thanks for your efforts to
 get Gambas latest stable available on Ubuntu and its siblings...

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Ian Haywood]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Caveat gam...@caveat.demon.co.uk wrote:
 I have Ubuntu here, was hoping someone else would volunteer first so I
 didn't have to... :-D

 I haven't packaged before but know my way around bash scripts, svn, git
 and the like.
start with the debian packaging guidelines to get an idea of how the
system works in general. https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging
Next, download the debian 3.5.4 packages in sid.
https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/gambas3 [look at the bottom of the page]

These debian packages will compile as-is on later versions of ubuntu,
all you will need to do is change the name of the target distro in
debian/changelog from unstable to raring, quantic or whatever.
Your problem is going to be the older versions, some gambas3
subpackages [gb.jit, gb.media, possibly a couple of others] just won't
compile as the relevant libraries are too old. You will need to
produce versions of gambas3 that don't have those subpackages.

[as an aside, this is why I've never bothered producing a version for
debian stable, lots of stuff won't compile and so the reality is most
debian people who want to run an up-to-date gambas will need to
upgrade their whole system anyway]


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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Ian Haywood]

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Sebastian Kulesz sebi...@gmail.com wrote:

 The thing is, I don't have ubuntu installed in my computer as i don't need
 it to manage the Daily Builds PPA. The problem arises when trying to push
 Gambas 3.5.4 to the Stable PPA using the same method i'm using for the
 Daily Builds. To do this, i have to bisect 3 repositories to find the
 revision which corresponds to the release of the 5.* branch. Right now,
surely if it's the official repository you can use the official
tarball? This is how we do the debian
unstable releases.
[the other option is to just use the debian unstable release and
relabel the target distro, it should
compile on most recent ubuntus as-is]
Hopefully in the next version of ubuntu the version will be up-to-date
so the kendek PPA won't be needed for that version
(it will still be for older ones I know)

Ian

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Willy Raets]

On za, 2014-07-12 at 02:38 -0300, Sebastian Kulesz wrote:
 Hey! Long time no see.
 
 I got word a few hours ago that Kendek won't be maintaining the Stable PPA
 any more. Instead, he created a new PPA under the gambas-team Launchpad
 name and uploaded the current stable (3.5.3) packages so they can be
 updated by us.

I've seen his PPA has been archived and mailed him. He told me the same.

 
 The thing is, I don't have ubuntu installed in my computer as i don't need
 it to manage the Daily Builds PPA. The problem arises when trying to push
 Gambas 3.5.4 to the Stable PPA using the same method i'm using for the
 Daily Builds. To do this, i have to bisect 3 repositories to find the
 revision which corresponds to the release of the 5.* branch. Right now,
 this repositories correspond to the next release of Gambas (3.6). So, even
 if i were to do the bisection and find the working revision, the builds
 would still differ from the one Kendek made.

Could you not simply take from svn 3.5 branch, instead of picking
revisions, or am I understanding this wrong?

 
 Because of this, I decided not to package this release in the new PPA for
 now. Different package methods can introduce bugs that should not exist in
 a stable distribution.
 Don't get me wrong, with enough time, i know it can be done. But i'm
 currently studying for finals and time is really scarce.

I'm glad you are willing to take up this job, but your finals go first,
so we will be patient.:)

 
 If anybody is up for the job, please let me know. If it's not too time
 consuming i will do my best to help get it done.

I wish I knew how to package, have been reading about it and was advised
to start with simple packages. Packaging Gambas doesn't seem a good
point of start for learning how to package debs in general.


 Next week, once i'm done, i will fix the repositories to also build the
 Stable releases, but until the next major release I won't label it as
 stable. I don't want to put extra work where it is not needed.
 
 Bad news aside, this move brings the possibility for automatic Beta builds.
 This ones will be based off the current stable branch, and be updated every
 time there is a merge from trunk to backport a bugfix.
 This shortens the window of getting a fix for a stopping bug from months to
 24 hours! :)
 
Sounds promising, looking forward to it and thanks for your efforts to
get Gambas latest stable available on Ubuntu and its siblings...

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Re: [Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Sebastian Kulesz]

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Willy Raets wi...@earthshipbelgium.be
wrote:

 On za, 2014-07-12 at 02:38 -0300, Sebastian Kulesz wrote:
  Hey! Long time no see.
 
  I got word a few hours ago that Kendek won't be maintaining the Stable
 PPA
  any more. Instead, he created a new PPA under the gambas-team Launchpad
  name and uploaded the current stable (3.5.3) packages so they can be
  updated by us.

 I've seen his PPA has been archived and mailed him. He told me the same.

 
  The thing is, I don't have ubuntu installed in my computer as i don't
 need
  it to manage the Daily Builds PPA. The problem arises when trying to push
  Gambas 3.5.4 to the Stable PPA using the same method i'm using for the
  Daily Builds. To do this, i have to bisect 3 repositories to find the
  revision which corresponds to the release of the 5.* branch. Right now,
  this repositories correspond to the next release of Gambas (3.6). So,
 even
  if i were to do the bisection and find the working revision, the builds
  would still differ from the one Kendek made.

 Could you not simply take from svn 3.5 branch, instead of picking
 revisions, or am I understanding this wrong?


We are talking about different repositories. I will use a different method
to package Gambas because i don't have ubuntu installed. Some of the
advantages are the ones i explained in the first email. I can't use the
same method as kendek because i don't have ubuntu installed.
Currently, there is a common branch which holds common files from the
/debian folder used to generate the source files, and the series specific
repositories for each ubuntu version we support in the PPA. You can look
here [0] for those.

The thing is, these repositories are in sync with trunk, they hold the new
components information, installation rules and dependencies. I don't track
minor version releases because it is pointless to do so for the Daily
Builds PPA. So, to build for the Stable PPA, i have to go back in history
an look for the first change made to the packaging structure for Gambas
3.5.99, aka 3.6.



 
  Because of this, I decided not to package this release in the new PPA for
  now. Different package methods can introduce bugs that should not exist
 in
  a stable distribution.
  Don't get me wrong, with enough time, i know it can be done. But i'm
  currently studying for finals and time is really scarce.

 I'm glad you are willing to take up this job, but your finals go first,
 so we will be patient.:)


I will be done next thursday. As soon as i get home i will start working on
a fix for the stable PPA.



 
  If anybody is up for the job, please let me know. If it's not too time
  consuming i will do my best to help get it done.

 I wish I knew how to package, have been reading about it and was advised
 to start with simple packages. Packaging Gambas doesn't seem a good
 point of start for learning how to package debs in general.


  Next week, once i'm done, i will fix the repositories to also build the
  Stable releases, but until the next major release I won't label it as
  stable. I don't want to put extra work where it is not needed.
 
  Bad news aside, this move brings the possibility for automatic Beta
 builds.
  This ones will be based off the current stable branch, and be updated
 every
  time there is a merge from trunk to backport a bugfix.
  This shortens the window of getting a fix for a stopping bug from months
 to
  24 hours! :)
 
 Sounds promising, looking forward to it and thanks for your efforts to
 get Gambas latest stable available on Ubuntu and its siblings...

 --
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[Gambas-user] Gambas 3.5.4 and the Stable PPA

[Sebastian Kulesz]

Hey! Long time no see.

I got word a few hours ago that Kendek won't be maintaining the Stable PPA
any more. Instead, he created a new PPA under the gambas-team Launchpad
name and uploaded the current stable (3.5.3) packages so they can be
updated by us.

The thing is, I don't have ubuntu installed in my computer as i don't need
it to manage the Daily Builds PPA. The problem arises when trying to push
Gambas 3.5.4 to the Stable PPA using the same method i'm using for the
Daily Builds. To do this, i have to bisect 3 repositories to find the
revision which corresponds to the release of the 5.* branch. Right now,
this repositories correspond to the next release of Gambas (3.6). So, even
if i were to do the bisection and find the working revision, the builds
would still differ from the one Kendek made.

Because of this, I decided not to package this release in the new PPA for
now. Different package methods can introduce bugs that should not exist in
a stable distribution.
Don't get me wrong, with enough time, i know it can be done. But i'm
currently studying for finals and time is really scarce.

If anybody is up for the job, please let me know. If it's not too time
consuming i will do my best to help get it done.
Next week, once i'm done, i will fix the repositories to also build the
Stable releases, but until the next major release I won't label it as
stable. I don't want to put extra work where it is not needed.

Bad news aside, this move brings the possibility for automatic Beta builds.
This ones will be based off the current stable branch, and be updated every
time there is a merge from trunk to backport a bugfix.
This shortens the window of getting a fix for a stopping bug from months to
24 hours! :)

Again, if you want to help, please let me know!
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