Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

While I do not doubt you, like many others, have made a serious
financial investment in Windows software do remember that sooner or
later the support runs out for it, and if you are happy with it as is
that's fine. However, if you want updates, bug fixes, or whatever
you'll end up having to buy all that software all over again. So I do
not see how or why that would be a convincing reason to stick with
Windows seeing as if you want to keep using it you'll have to keep
paying to use it.

For example, a lot of Windows users are facing this very issue as we
speak. Many of them are still running XP,  perhaps Office 2003, and a
few other apps they purchased 10 years ago and have continued
updating. Now, as of 2014 all the updates, tech support, etc is going
to be gone for all that software if it hasn't expired already. Now,
they are looking at buying Windows 8, a new version of Jaws, new
version of Microsoft Office, etc just to replace all the apps they
will be loosing. It seems to me now is the time, if any, for people to
consider their options rather than just continue to for Windows stuff
just because they spent x amount of money on older versions of the
software that is all going to be abandonware soon.

Besides it isn't like migrating to something like Ubuntu Linux will
cost them anything but some time and patients. I purchased software
for Windows 3.1 all the way up to Windows 8, and I still use Linux
because of the simple reason it is inexpensive and I like it. Now, if
someone didn't like Linux I could see your point, but your claim is
because you have invested hundreds and maybe thousands in Windows you
can't switch. That doesn't make a lick of sense, because I spent a lot
on Windows software too, but that didn't stop me from switching to
Linux for most of my software needs. In fact, I've been saving money
because I am now using as much open source stuff as I can get for
Windows and Linux these days, and pitched older versions of MS Office,
Jaws, etc that won't work with Windows 7 or Windows 8 so it isn't like
I was throwing money away since it wouldn't work on my newer computers
in the first place.

Cheers!


On 6/5/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 I doubt that vary much josh.
 Truthfully if I started again I am not sure if I'd get windows at all
 or if I'd get a mac or linux and skip ms all together.
 In reality I have spent loads of cash on readers games and other
 programs so yeah like it or not, I am stuck with windows because I
 have spent to much cash to really quit now.
 And windows is what the industry wants these days.
 now if you are in a non western country or something maybe linux is
 your friend.


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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread shaun everiss

true tom, most of my softwae is opensource.
my readers supernova mainly are upgraded for 7 use, nvda is already 
working fine with it, in fact I use win7 right now.

most software I use is free or will still work enough for use.

At 07:36 PM 6/6/2013, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

While I do not doubt you, like many others, have made a serious
financial investment in Windows software do remember that sooner or
later the support runs out for it, and if you are happy with it as is
that's fine. However, if you want updates, bug fixes, or whatever
you'll end up having to buy all that software all over again. So I do
not see how or why that would be a convincing reason to stick with
Windows seeing as if you want to keep using it you'll have to keep
paying to use it.

For example, a lot of Windows users are facing this very issue as we
speak. Many of them are still running XP,  perhaps Office 2003, and a
few other apps they purchased 10 years ago and have continued
updating. Now, as of 2014 all the updates, tech support, etc is going
to be gone for all that software if it hasn't expired already. Now,
they are looking at buying Windows 8, a new version of Jaws, new
version of Microsoft Office, etc just to replace all the apps they
will be loosing. It seems to me now is the time, if any, for people to
consider their options rather than just continue to for Windows stuff
just because they spent x amount of money on older versions of the
software that is all going to be abandonware soon.

Besides it isn't like migrating to something like Ubuntu Linux will
cost them anything but some time and patients. I purchased software
for Windows 3.1 all the way up to Windows 8, and I still use Linux
because of the simple reason it is inexpensive and I like it. Now, if
someone didn't like Linux I could see your point, but your claim is
because you have invested hundreds and maybe thousands in Windows you
can't switch. That doesn't make a lick of sense, because I spent a lot
on Windows software too, but that didn't stop me from switching to
Linux for most of my software needs. In fact, I've been saving money
because I am now using as much open source stuff as I can get for
Windows and Linux these days, and pitched older versions of MS Office,
Jaws, etc that won't work with Windows 7 or Windows 8 so it isn't like
I was throwing money away since it wouldn't work on my newer computers
in the first place.

Cheers!


On 6/5/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 I doubt that vary much josh.
 Truthfully if I started again I am not sure if I'd get windows at all
 or if I'd get a mac or linux and skip ms all together.
 In reality I have spent loads of cash on readers games and other
 programs so yeah like it or not, I am stuck with windows because I
 have spent to much cash to really quit now.
 And windows is what the industry wants these days.
 now if you are in a non western country or something maybe linux is
 your friend.


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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread john
Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have 
(and doubt that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If 
you have a specific one you want done, let me know and I'll see 
if I can't put something together for you.


- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard 
to understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?  
Thanks.


As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came 
with the game, I don't know of any.


(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk 
throughs apart

from the first 17 as I have them

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] A wrestling game, and a lightsaber game.

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,

I got tied up doing a reinstall on my laptop yesterday so I'll try and
send the list a link to my Dropbox folder with the Dos wrestling games
in it once I locate the files on my backup drive.

I don't know of any accessible Star Wars games outside of a couple
muds I tried out and didn't like a while back. As you know most Star
Wars stuff from Lucas Arts is neither accessible, and while I've
wanted to write one I've been rather worried about the copyright
issues involved with doing so given that they basically told me it
wasn't allowed.

Cheers!


On 6/5/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:
 Hey, Thomas.
 Thanks for the info!
 Yes, if you would please dropbox those files.
 Is there any Star Wars games that a blind person could play?

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread wayne17a
Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but
as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one mission
in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the stone
fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and doubt
that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a specific
one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put something
together for you.

 - Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013
14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?  
Thanks.

As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
game, I don't know of any.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
from the first 17 as I have them

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] Purchasing sounds files

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jesse,

Well, off the top of my head there are a few places that come to mind.

Sound Dogs
http://www.sounddogs.com

Audio Sparks
http://www.audiosparks.com

Shockwave Sound
http://www.shockwave-sound.com

HTH

On 6/6/13, Jesse Gaona jesse.gaon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.

 Does anyone know any websites to purchase .wav or other sound files
 for games? Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread Charles Rivard
Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of something else. 
Hmm.  Now I'm curious.


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From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf



Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but
as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one 
mission

in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have 
to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the 
stone

fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and 
doubt

that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a specific
one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put something
together for you.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013
14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
Thanks.

As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
game, I don't know of any.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
from the first 17 as I have them

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy
yeah if you like windows just get windows, use ibm lotus symphony with 
nvda, vlc media player, there's lots of open source stuff out there for 
windows. windows is still best for audio games so that's why I stick 
with it.



On 6/6/2013 3:36 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Shaun,

While I do not doubt you, like many others, have made a serious
financial investment in Windows software do remember that sooner or
later the support runs out for it, and if you are happy with it as is
that's fine. However, if you want updates, bug fixes, or whatever
you'll end up having to buy all that software all over again. So I do
not see how or why that would be a convincing reason to stick with
Windows seeing as if you want to keep using it you'll have to keep
paying to use it.

For example, a lot of Windows users are facing this very issue as we
speak. Many of them are still running XP,  perhaps Office 2003, and a
few other apps they purchased 10 years ago and have continued
updating. Now, as of 2014 all the updates, tech support, etc is going
to be gone for all that software if it hasn't expired already. Now,
they are looking at buying Windows 8, a new version of Jaws, new
version of Microsoft Office, etc just to replace all the apps they
will be loosing. It seems to me now is the time, if any, for people to
consider their options rather than just continue to for Windows stuff
just because they spent x amount of money on older versions of the
software that is all going to be abandonware soon.

Besides it isn't like migrating to something like Ubuntu Linux will
cost them anything but some time and patients. I purchased software
for Windows 3.1 all the way up to Windows 8, and I still use Linux
because of the simple reason it is inexpensive and I like it. Now, if
someone didn't like Linux I could see your point, but your claim is
because you have invested hundreds and maybe thousands in Windows you
can't switch. That doesn't make a lick of sense, because I spent a lot
on Windows software too, but that didn't stop me from switching to
Linux for most of my software needs. In fact, I've been saving money
because I am now using as much open source stuff as I can get for
Windows and Linux these days, and pitched older versions of MS Office,
Jaws, etc that won't work with Windows 7 or Windows 8 so it isn't like
I was throwing money away since it wouldn't work on my newer computers
in the first place.

Cheers!


On 6/5/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:

I doubt that vary much josh.
Truthfully if I started again I am not sure if I'd get windows at all
or if I'd get a mac or linux and skip ms all together.
In reality I have spent loads of cash on readers games and other
programs so yeah like it or not, I am stuck with windows because I
have spent to much cash to really quit now.
And windows is what the industry wants these days.
now if you are in a non western country or something maybe linux is
your friend.



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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Draconis
I'd like to add to what Tom has said about the market for cross-platform games.

Draconis entered the Mac market for audio games six months ago, but had been 
analyzing it for quite some time prior to that, too.

Regardless of the industry, the sheer number of users who use a platform is 
only one small piece of the puzzle when considering which platforms to develop 
for. Not all users are created equal. For a real world example, look at the iOS 
versus Android markets for apps right now. The vast, vast, vast majority of 
developers develop for iOS first, and often not for Android at all, even though 
it appears, on the surface, that Android has a larger share of the smart phone 
market. The difference is, though, that developers don't make much money on 
Android. Android users tend to be unwilling to pay for apps, are only using 
their phone as a phone and not as a true mobile computing device, or are 
running a version of the OS so out of date that it is impractical to support. 
Couple reasons like these with the difficulties of supporting the hugely 
fragmented Android platform, and it is no wonder that developers target iOS, 
where they can actually make some money.

Where this sort of analysis is important for cross-platform audio games is in 
the types of people your games are going to appeal to. While there are 
certainly more visually impaired users of Windows, that number is shrinking. 
Many of the Windows users are running the OS side-by-side with OS X on a Mac 
machine. The demographic of visually impaired Mac users skews younger, which, 
generally speaking, is the group more likely to purchase and enjoy games.

While the Linux community has certainly grown over the years, we don't think it 
is large enough, on its own, to support audio gaming. Someone like Tom has a 
vested interest in developing for it, and I think you need that drive to 
support it for now. It is not financially viable, and I doubt that is going to 
change in the foreseeable future.

So far, Mac sales of our first two titles for that platform have far and away 
exceeded sales for any titles on Windows over the last decade, likely for the 
reasons above, as well as our ability to price the games more affordibly now 
that we're offering them on more platforms.

It is far more complex than simply looking at numbers and trying to use the 
size of the user base as a reference point. A huge percentage of visually 
impaired Windows users are, for example, are elderly persons who have recently 
lost their vision and primarily use their computers for only the most basic of 
tasks. They are not going to be a segment of the market who are likely to 
purchase Shades of Doom or play Swamp. *grin*


On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Josh,
 
 Sure there is a market. How big it is I can't say, but there is enough
 of a market there to consider cross-platform games. There are several
 people who now have Mac OS X, and the last time I checked the Orca
 list has a couple hundred blind members. I don't know for sure how
 many blind Linux users there are for sure because the community is
 spread out over the Vinux list, Ubuntu accessibility list, Speakup
 List, the Orca List, etc and there are bound to be people on more than
 one fudging the results of just looking at the number of members.
 However, there is a market there, and besides there is more to it than
 just dollars and cents. Some people like me use the OS and want some
 games to play so I of all people have a vested interest in making
 Linux games even if I didn't sell one game.
 
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[Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy

Hi

here is a podcast about some new audio games for IOS that are upcoming. 
and there is now a free engine or will be soon, that will let you 
quickly make audio games for IOS. think of it as bgt for IOS.


http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/applevis-extra-11-papa-sangre-nightjar-and-upcoming-releases


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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Darren Duff
Do they actually say that the papa engine will be free? Just finished
downloading it and about to listen. 

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Hi

here is a podcast about some new audio games for IOS that are upcoming. 
and there is now a free engine or will be soon, that will let you quickly
make audio games for IOS. think of it as bgt for IOS.

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/applevis-extra-11-papa-sangre-night
jar-and-upcoming-releases


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[Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb 
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna 
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your 
games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable 
also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for 
IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?


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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy
yes the papa engine will be free or it is free for those who want to 
make free IOS audio games.



On 6/6/2013 12:57 PM, Darren Duff wrote:

Do they actually say that the papa engine will be free? Just finished
downloading it and about to listen.

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Hi

here is a podcast about some new audio games for IOS that are upcoming.
and there is now a free engine or will be soon, that will let you quickly
make audio games for IOS. think of it as bgt for IOS.

http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/applevis-extra-11-papa-sangre-night
jar-and-upcoming-releases


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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Ron Kolesar
Is this another telephone engine for games, or is this a windows engine for 
games or another body or physical interfacing with the hand to ear games.

Just curious.
I'm on my way out now, but am curious and will have time later to listen to 
the podcasts.

Thanks.



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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:17 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your
games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable
also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for
IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Will
Super Liam would be fantastic. Or Monkey business

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Jun 2013, at 06:17 PM, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go here.
 
 http://papaengine.com/
 
 get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb baseball 
 or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna make free games 
 the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your games there's some 
 sort of talking with the company but that's doable also. have fun. so now we 
 have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for IOS. anybody gunna make an 
 audio games engine for android jellybean?
 
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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Charles Rivard
I would not make those games, as they have been produced by someone else and 
the original developer has the right to produce their own games for 
different platforms.  I would not infringe.  It's not legal.


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Super Liam would be fantastic. Or Monkey business

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Jun 2013, at 06:17 PM, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go 
here.


http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb 
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna make 
free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your games 
there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable also. 
have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for IOS. 
anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?


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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Bryan Peterson

You'll have to talk to Draconis and Liam about that.

But thou must!

On 6/6/2013 11:23 AM, Will wrote:

Super Liam would be fantastic. Or Monkey business

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Jun 2013, at 06:17 PM, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb baseball 
or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna make free games the 
engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your games there's some sort of 
talking with the company but that's doable also. have fun. so now we have bgt 
for windows, and the papa engine for IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games 
engine for android jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy
it is an audio games engine to make games for IOS, ipod touch, iPad, 
iPhone.


On 6/6/2013 1:25 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Is this another telephone engine for games, or is this a windows engine
for games or another body or physical interfacing with the hand to ear
games.
Just curious.
I'm on my way out now, but am curious and will have time later to listen
to the podcasts.
Thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week.
-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:17 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go
here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your
games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable
also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for
IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] Purchasing sounds files

2013-06-06 Thread Jesse Gaona
Thanks Thomas, will check these out.

Sent from my jPhone 5

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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron,

I bet. However, unless Liam or Draconis does it were out of luck.
Having someone else do it would be direct copyright infringement. It
would be like me porting Super Liam or Monkey Business to Linux
without their permission.

Cheers!



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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh,

Actually, its not quite that simple as all that. Yes, this new Papa
Engine sounds great, sounds like a great tool for audio game
developers, but just saying anyone including myself could develop
games for iOS is stretching things a bit.

First of all as my primary focus is Windows and Linux right now it
looks like everything would have to be rewritten and ported to the
Papa Engine  which would not be a fun task seeing is I wrote my own
engine, Evolution 3D, for the purpose to begin save myself from having
to rewrite my games for Windows, Mac, and Linux every time I want to
use a different platform.

 Second of all I don't actually own an iOS device right now so I don't
really have a personal stake in writing games for that platform free
or otherwise. So until I actually have a device I can use I probably
won't be developing games for it. I'd be more likely to try Android
first given that my wife has a Samsung Galaxy phone and I could at
least test my games out on Android where I don't have anything to use
for testing games for iOS.

On 6/6/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go
 here.

 http://papaengine.com/

 get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
 baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
 make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your
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 IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh,

Unfortunately, that is presently true. Those of us using Mac or Linux
don't quite have the same choice in audio games, and if we want to
play them we either need to keep a Windows machine around for that
purpose or run Windows in a virtual machine. Both works, but is the
one thing keeping some of us from just removing Windows completely
from our systems.

Cheers!

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 yeah if you like windows just get windows, use ibm lotus symphony with
 nvda, vlc media player, there's lots of open source stuff out there for
 windows. windows is still best for audio games so that's why I stick
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[Audyssey] Awesome Homer

2013-06-06 Thread Curt Taubert
Hi, I recently got Awesome Homer for my laptop.  I remember a while back 
Jim was saying on level 4 how he kept the control key down while using 
the arrow keys.  When I try to do that now I always get knocked out by 
tree number 2.  I even tried hitting the shift key to slow down but, I 
still get knocked out by tree number two.


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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Ron Kolesar
Well, since I don't own a ipod or ipad, it's eight the windows and the 
keyboard or USB handheld devices.

But thanks for educating me on this.




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-Original Message- 
From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:16 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

it is an audio games engine to make games for IOS, ipod touch, iPad,
iPhone.

On 6/6/2013 1:25 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Is this another telephone engine for games, or is this a windows engine
for games or another body or physical interfacing with the hand to ear
games.
Just curious.
I'm on my way out now, but am curious and will have time later to listen
to the podcasts.
Thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week.
-Original Message- From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:17 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go
here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your
games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable
also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for
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[Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Eleanor Robinson

Draconis said:

It is far more complex than simply looking at numbers and trying to use the size of 
the user base as a reference point. A huge percentage of visually impaired Windows users 
are, for example, are elderly persons who have recently lost their vision and primarily 
use their computers for only the most basic of tasks. They are not going to be a segment 
of the market who are likely to purchase Shades of Doom or play Swamp.*grin*

I just want to say that elderly people are big gamers - just not of the same 
type of games that you want.  If the game is a card game, word game, puzzle 
game or non-violent story game, they are interested and will play if they find 
out how to access them.  The main problem is getting the information out to 
them that there are accessible games they will enjoy.

That is one of the challenges we at 7-128 Software have tried to address over 
the past several years.  Here is a group of people with time on their hands and 
usually a little disposable income who don't know that they can play games 
using audio rather than visual clues.

The idea that older people are not computer literate needs to die a quick 
death.  Almost everyone who is reaching retirement age at this time have used 
computers extensively in their employment for at least the last 15 years.  They 
are almost all using Email, many are on Facebook and Twitter.  Some have played 
games on game portals such as Pogo.  They have recently had vision problems and 
don't know how to access the computer as they used to because of that, not 
because they aren't computer literate.

OOPS - you pushed a button of mine - sorry.  Didn't want to go off on a rant!!

Eleanor Robinson
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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Draconis
Hi Eleanor,

I actually agree with you, which is why I was using Swamp and Shades of Doom 
specifically as examples. My point was that the demographics for various types 
of games are going to vary, and the sheer numbers of users on any given 
platform is not a good way to determine market size for a game.

I think perhaps I should have been a bit more explicit. I know plenty of older 
folks who are quite capable with technology as well. Both groups exist. Saying 
that all computer users of any age are equally capable would also be incorrect.

Sorry for any offense. None was intended. :)

For what it is worth…I actually enjoy all sorts of games, but shoot 'em ups are 
not typically my cup of tea either…so I wasn't using those titles because they 
were ones I liked. Neither appeal to me much, though they were well designed 
products.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Eleanor Robinson elea...@7128.com wrote:

 Draconis said:
 
 It is far more complex than simply looking at numbers and trying to use the 
 size of the user base as a reference point. A huge percentage of visually 
 impaired Windows users are, for example, are elderly persons who have 
 recently lost their vision and primarily use their computers for only the 
 most basic of tasks. They are not going to be a segment of the market who are 
 likely to purchase Shades of Doom or play Swamp.*grin*
 
 I just want to say that elderly people are big gamers - just not of the same 
 type of games that you want.  If the game is a card game, word game, puzzle 
 game or non-violent story game, they are interested and will play if they 
 find out how to access them.  The main problem is getting the information out 
 to them that there are accessible games they will enjoy.
 
 That is one of the challenges we at 7-128 Software have tried to address over 
 the past several years.  Here is a group of people with time on their hands 
 and usually a little disposable income who don't know that they can play 
 games using audio rather than visual clues.
 
 The idea that older people are not computer literate needs to die a quick 
 death.  Almost everyone who is reaching retirement age at this time have used 
 computers extensively in their employment for at least the last 15 years.  
 They are almost all using Email, many are on Facebook and Twitter.  Some have 
 played games on game portals such as Pogo.  They have recently had vision 
 problems and don't know how to access the computer as they used to because of 
 that, not because they aren't computer literate.
 
 OOPS - you pushed a button of mine - sorry.  Didn't want to go off on a rant!!
 
 Eleanor Robinson
 7-128 Software
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Kennedy

I just put it out there to let people know about it.

On 6/6/2013 4:18 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Josh,

Actually, its not quite that simple as all that. Yes, this new Papa
Engine sounds great, sounds like a great tool for audio game
developers, but just saying anyone including myself could develop
games for iOS is stretching things a bit.

First of all as my primary focus is Windows and Linux right now it
looks like everything would have to be rewritten and ported to the
Papa Engine  which would not be a fun task seeing is I wrote my own
engine, Evolution 3D, for the purpose to begin save myself from having
to rewrite my games for Windows, Mac, and Linux every time I want to
use a different platform.

  Second of all I don't actually own an iOS device right now so I don't
really have a personal stake in writing games for that platform free
or otherwise. So until I actually have a device I can use I probably
won't be developing games for it. I'd be more likely to try Android
first given that my wife has a Samsung Galaxy phone and I could at
least test my games out on Android where I don't have anything to use
for testing games for iOS.

On 6/6/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go
here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell your
games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's doable
also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa engine for
IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,

I'll add to what Josh said, because he raised a number of good points
that pertains to my own situation as well. Like he said we can't look
simply at the numbers, because there are a number of other things
going on here too.

For instance, while the Linux market is growing I still have concerns
how many of those users would be”paying customers” since Linux users
are less likely to buy software than their Windows or Mac
counterparts. This is a lot like the Android verses iOS situation Josh
talked about, because many commercial developers tried selling their
products to Linux users only to have their product fail. It isn't that
there are not enough Linux users out there, there are in fact millions
of mainstream users, but it has to do with the degree of free
alternatives that it makes commercial software nonviable on the
platform.

One of the more memorable examples is Corel's office suite for Linux.
Arguably Word Perfect, Quatro Pro, Corel Draw, etc are excellent
applications. However, who is going to pay $200 for an office suite
when there are free solutions like OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and IBM
Lotus Symphony? It is just not going to sell to someone who already
has a low cost office suite that does it all anyway.

That said, as blind gamers we have a bit of a disadvantage. Where
there are hundreds of games for Linux like Super Tux, Tux Racer, Rocks
and Diamonds, Civilization, Quake, etc they aren't accessible. That
means in theory since there isn't a freedom of choice for blind Linux
gamers I have an advantage over mainstream developers in that as one
of the few blind developers of audio games for Linux I can charge for
them and people will have to pay if they want them. That is sort of
insurance that I'll make something off the product as I don't have
free competition to compete with.

However, whatever price I put on the product has to be realistic. I
don't know anyone who is going to pay $40 for a Blackjack game for
Linux no matter how hard up for games they are. That would be
obviously ridiculous. A small fee like $3.00 to $5.00 might be more
reasonable. Even better yet for something that basic it might as well
be free and open source. The point being, though, that the price has
to be something someone use to free software is willing to afford.
They might buy a cheap audio game, but most Linux users will be
looking for something open source if and where they can get it, and
that is why commercial software has not been very viable on Linux in
many cases.

The exceptions to the rule tend to be specialty software that has no
other free competition. To give you an example the Cepstral voices are
really the best voices available for Linux users, and I have always
been willing to put out $30for Cepstral David, Callie, Dianne, etc
because they are more human than Espeak. Apparently Cepstral must be
doing well as they continue to put out new versions for Linux, and in
fact I just got a message from them today offering a discount on their
new 6.0 voices for Linux. So commercial software is not always doomed
to failure, but it has to be something you can't get anywhere else.

Getting back on topic here as Josh said looking at the numbers is not
the be all and end all to weather a game for a certain platform is
worthwhile. Neither is making money necessarily sufficient motivation
for targeting a specific platform. Their are personal reasons which
are just as valid as making money.

To give you an example Jim Kitchen has written a number of fun and
enjoyable games for Windows using SAPI and DirectX. You know, I could
do basically the same thing using SDL and Speech Dispatcher. I could
crank out Football, Baseball, Uno, Yatzi, etc and just give them away
or make them open source. The value wouldn't be making money but just
because I enjoyed doing it. So money and x number of users isn't
everything. :D

Cheers!

On 6/6/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote:
 I'd like to add to what Tom has said about the market for cross-platform
 games.

 Draconis entered the Mac market for audio games six months ago, but had been
 analyzing it for quite some time prior to that, too.

 Regardless of the industry, the sheer number of users who use a platform is
 only one small piece of the puzzle when considering which platforms to
 develop for. Not all users are created equal. For a real world example, look
 at the iOS versus Android markets for apps right now. The vast, vast, vast
 majority of developers develop for iOS first, and often not for Android at
 all, even though it appears, on the surface, that Android has a larger share
 of the smart phone market. The difference is, though, that developers don't
 make much money on Android. Android users tend to be unwilling to pay for
 apps, are only using their phone as a phone and not as a true mobile
 computing device, or are running a version of the OS so out of date that it
 is impractical to support. Couple reasons like these with the difficulties
 of supporting the hugely 

Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Trouble

Well its not just as simple as that, but does make a good start.
First off you can not do this on windows, its mac only. Using x code 
with it setup for IOS development.


At 01:17 PM 6/6/2013, you wrote:

Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb 
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna 
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell 
your games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's 
doable also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa 
engine for IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android jellybean?


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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread lenron brown
could someone please tell me of games I could get to play on the
iphone I tried to find sole trapper and I can't. Free and payed games
are ok thanks.

On 6/6/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote:
 Hi Eleanor,

 I actually agree with you, which is why I was using Swamp and Shades of Doom
 specifically as examples. My point was that the demographics for various
 types of games are going to vary, and the sheer numbers of users on any
 given platform is not a good way to determine market size for a game.

 I think perhaps I should have been a bit more explicit. I know plenty of
 older folks who are quite capable with technology as well. Both groups
 exist. Saying that all computer users of any age are equally capable would
 also be incorrect.

 Sorry for any offense. None was intended. :)

 For what it is worth…I actually enjoy all sorts of games, but shoot 'em ups
 are not typically my cup of tea either…so I wasn't using those titles
 because they were ones I liked. Neither appeal to me much, though they were
 well designed products.

 On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Eleanor Robinson elea...@7128.com wrote:

 Draconis said:

 It is far more complex than simply looking at numbers and trying to use
 the size of the user base as a reference point. A huge percentage of
 visually impaired Windows users are, for example, are elderly persons who
 have recently lost their vision and primarily use their computers for only
 the most basic of tasks. They are not going to be a segment of the market
 who are likely to purchase Shades of Doom or play Swamp.*grin*

 I just want to say that elderly people are big gamers - just not of the
 same type of games that you want.  If the game is a card game, word game,
 puzzle game or non-violent story game, they are interested and will play
 if they find out how to access them.  The main problem is getting the
 information out to them that there are accessible games they will enjoy.

 That is one of the challenges we at 7-128 Software have tried to address
 over the past several years.  Here is a group of people with time on their
 hands and usually a little disposable income who don't know that they can
 play games using audio rather than visual clues.

 The idea that older people are not computer literate needs to die a quick
 death.  Almost everyone who is reaching retirement age at this time have
 used computers extensively in their employment for at least the last 15
 years.  They are almost all using Email, many are on Facebook and Twitter.
  Some have played games on game portals such as Pogo.  They have recently
 had vision problems and don't know how to access the computer as they used
 to because of that, not because they aren't computer literate.

 OOPS - you pushed a button of mine - sorry.  Didn't want to go off on a
 rant!!

 Eleanor Robinson
 7-128 Software


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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Eleanor,

You are quite right though. Both my wife's and my parents are getting
up their in years, but that doesn't mean they are completely computer
illiterate and don't play games. In fact, the opposite is true.

My mother, for example, just purchased a brand spanking new HP laptop
with Windows 8 on it, and she has been spending a lot of free time
playing games on it. However, the types of games she plays are
different from what I would play. She plays games like Solitaire,
Hearts, Blackjack, and a few other puzzle and card games. I'll play
them, but I'm interested in action oriented games.

My in-laws are not too different. I've seen them play things like
Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, and games of that sort, but they would not
like Shades of Doom or Tank Commander. That would be too violent for
their tastes. So something like Jim's Press Your Luck game or Damien's
X-Wheel would be something I'd recommend before something like GMA's
games for them.

Cheers!


On 6/6/13, Eleanor Robinson elea...@7128.com wrote:
 Draconis said:

 It is far more complex than simply looking at numbers and trying to use the
 size of the user base as a reference point. A huge percentage of visually
 impaired Windows users are, for example, are elderly persons who have
 recently lost their vision and primarily use their computers for only the
 most basic of tasks. They are not going to be a segment of the market who
 are likely to purchase Shades of Doom or play Swamp.*grin*

 I just want to say that elderly people are big gamers - just not of the same
 type of games that you want.  If the game is a card game, word game, puzzle
 game or non-violent story game, they are interested and will play if they
 find out how to access them.  The main problem is getting the information
 out to them that there are accessible games they will enjoy.

 That is one of the challenges we at 7-128 Software have tried to address
 over the past several years.  Here is a group of people with time on their
 hands and usually a little disposable income who don't know that they can
 play games using audio rather than visual clues.

 The idea that older people are not computer literate needs to die a quick
 death.  Almost everyone who is reaching retirement age at this time have
 used computers extensively in their employment for at least the last 15
 years.  They are almost all using Email, many are on Facebook and Twitter.
 Some have played games on game portals such as Pogo.  They have recently had
 vision problems and don't know how to access the computer as they used to
 because of that, not because they aren't computer literate.

 OOPS - you pushed a button of mine - sorry.  Didn't want to go off on a
 rant!!

 Eleanor Robinson
 7-128 Software

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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread lenron brown
yes please make some games for android theres thoes of us who have
android tabs or phones and we would buy some nice games

On 6/6/13, Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
 Well its not just as simple as that, but does make a good start.
 First off you can not do this on windows, its mac only. Using x code
 with it setup for IOS development.

 At 01:17 PM 6/6/2013, you wrote:
Hi

Now anybody here including thomas ward can make games for IOS. just go
 here.

http://papaengine.com/

get the engine. happy coding and maybe we'll see nfl football or mlb
baseball or hockey or golf and bowling for IOS soon! if you're gunna
make free games the engine is free as in $0.00. if you want to sell
your games there's some sort of talking with the company but that's
doable also. have fun. so now we have bgt for windows, and the papa
engine for IOS. anybody gunna make an audio games engine for android
 jellybean?

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread john

You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of 
something else.

Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email 
but
as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not 
one

mission
in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of 
the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where 
you have

to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then 
destroey the

stone
fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be 
great



-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of 
john

Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't 
have (and

doubt
that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have 
a specific
one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put 
something

together for you.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 
5 Jun 2013

14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard 
to

understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
Thanks.

As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that 
came with the

game, I don't know of any.

(Sent from my iPhone)

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Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk 
throughs apart

from the first 17 as I have them

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread john
I'm not sure which one you're referring to. If you can get me the 
number I can make you a walkthrough, but without that itt's quite 
a bit more difficult.


- Original Message -
From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:01:28 -0400
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

	Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my 
email but
as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not 
one mission
in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of 
the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where 
you have to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey 
the stone
fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be 
great




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[Audyssey] LookTel Voiceover Tutorial 2.0 is out

2013-06-06 Thread Cara Quinn
HI All, little late on the draw with this one, but yesterday, LookTel released 
version 2.0 of the LookTel Voiceover Tutorial.

As some of you may know, this app is designed to guide beginning VO and iOS 
customers so that they may successfully and easily use and enjoy their iDevices.

In version 2 of the tutorial, we've added many new gestures.

• ;Double-tap and hold

• Two-finger flick up and down

• Two-finger single tap

• Three-finger flick up, down, left and right

There is also a more immersive game scenario where you find yourself navigating 
the halls of an ancient library in search of a book which will help guide you 
on your future journeys as the LookTel VoiceOver Tutorial continues to be 
updated. :)

Again, this app / update is free and we hope you enjoy it!

LookTel VoiceOver Tutorial by IPPLEX
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-voiceover-tutorial/id598788231?mt=8

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread Sky Mundell
John, the mission where you have to destroy the stone fish is a later
mission. 

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

 - Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013
10:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of something else.
Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


 Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but  as you
said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one  mission  in
general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have  to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the  stone
fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and
doubt  that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a
specific  one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put
something  together for you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed,
5 Jun 2013
 14:57:19 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
 Thanks.

 As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
game, I don't know of any.

 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
from the first 17 as I have them

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] programming games

2013-06-06 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi James,

Cool, good to hear that you are making progress with BGT.  Can't wait to see 
what you come up with.

BFN

Jim

I'd love to, but I'm building a pig from a kit.

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread Charles Rivard

Which one is it?

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From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf



John, the mission where you have to destroy the stone fish is a later
mission.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 
2013

10:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of something 
else.

Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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- Original Message -
From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but  as you
said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one  mission  in
general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have 
to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the 
stone

fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and
doubt  that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a
specific  one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put
something  together for you.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed,
5 Jun 2013
14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
Thanks.

As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
game, I don't know of any.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
from the first 17 as I have them

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] audio games for IOS

2013-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lenron,

While I understand your point unfortunately its not that simple to do.
Every operating system has its own way of handling things and when you
get into writing apps for phones and tablets its even that much more
confusing and complicated to do. Especially, if the developer wants to
write the game for more than one platform.

Cheers!

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 yes please make some games for android theres thoes of us who have
 android tabs or phones and we would buy some nice games

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread wayne17a
R   hello Charles you may be right but I have no walkthroughs so I could
not tell you and I thought they where on audio games but I cant find them


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:38 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of something else.

Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


 Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but
 as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one 
 mission
 in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
 number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have 
 to
 go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the 
 stone
 fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and 
 doubt
 that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a specific
 one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put something
 together for you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2013
 14:57:19 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
 understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
 Thanks.

 As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
 game, I don't know of any.

 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
 from the first 17 as I have them

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread wayne17a
R   hello thank you now do you know where I can get the walkthrough for
this one many thanks

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

 - Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of 
something else.
Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


 Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email 
but
 as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not 
one
 mission
 in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of 
the name or
 number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where 
you have
 to
 go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then 
destroey the
 stone
 fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be 
great


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of 
john
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't 
have (and
 doubt
 that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have 
a specific
 one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put 
something
 together for you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 
5 Jun 2013
 14:57:19 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard 
to
 understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
 Thanks.

 As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that 
came with the
 game, I don't know of any.

 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk 
throughs apart
 from the first 17 as I have them

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread Charles Rivard

It's one of Raul's recordings.

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From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com

To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf



R hello thank you now do you know where I can get the walkthrough for
this one many thanks

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:10 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:38:01 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of
something else.
Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email
but
as you said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not
one
mission
in general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of
the name or
number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where
you have
to
go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then
destroey the
stone
fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be
great


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of
john
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't
have (and
doubt
that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have
a specific
one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put
something
together for you.

- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed,
5 Jun 2013
14:57:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard
to
understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
Thanks.

As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that
came with the
game, I don't know of any.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk
throughs apart
from the first 17 as I have them

Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

2013-06-06 Thread wayne17a
Hello I think it is number 21 where you have to go into the enemy harbor and
sink the stone fish and pick up the agent from the rubber boat

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Rivard
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 7:45 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

Which one is it?

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From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


 John, the mission where you have to destroy the stone fish is a later
 mission.

 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 3:10 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 You are correct. The mission you're thinking of was number 10.

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Thu, 6 Jun 
 2013
 10:38:01 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Isn't one of the original 17 like that?, or am I thinking of something 
 else.
 Hmm.  Now I'm curious.

 ---
 Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second.
 - Original Message -
 From: wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 9:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf


 Thank you I could not work out what was going on with my email but  as you
 said it made sense and now regarding lone wolf it is not one  mission  in
 general so thank you for the offer but I cant even think of the name or
 number of the mission but the one I would like is the one where you have 
 to
 go undetected to get the spy in the rubber boat and then destroey the 
 stone
 fish sub so if that one could have a walkthrough that would be great


 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:23 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Funny, it mae perfect sense here on my machine. I also don't have (and
 doubt  that there are any) walkthroughs of later missions. If you have a
 specific  one you want done, let me know and I'll see if I can't put
 something  together for you.

 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed,
 5 Jun 2013
 14:57:19 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lone wolf

 Due to the lack of punctuation in your message, it was very hard to
 understand on an iPhone.  Could you work on it in the future?
 Thanks.

 As to audio walk throughs of missions other than the 17 that came with the
 game, I don't know of any.

 (Sent from my iPhone)

 On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello list does any one have a link for the lone wolf walk throughs apart
 from the first 17 as I have them

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [Audyssey] mp3 Tutorial

2013-06-06 Thread hayden presley
I could, but it won't do you a whole lot of good. There have been too many
feature updates since then for the tutorial to be relevant.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dbzfan
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:34 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] mp3 Tutorial

n someone post the mp3 File of the Tutorial for BGT? Thanks, Leo Here is an
awesome gamebook site:
http://www.ffproject.com/cgi-bin/fbook2n=33a=070710100A000201030503030
303b=802000
00x=94843s=2556338312f=0101070001000A
00p=101

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