Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
Hi Al, Ah, yes. That will do it alright. You need to keep in mind these are text based games from the 90's designed for Dos not Windows. That's why things like the arrow keys do not work because they didn't have things like DirectInput for dos and it was difficult to write applications that used keys that didn't map to a simple ASCII keycode. The cin function in C++, which I suspect they are using, can only accept input from letters, numbers, and symbols like plus, minus, divide, and so on. Keys like the arrow keys, home, end, page up, page down, and so on don't have a specific keycode and require a much more complex input handling system than I suspect the developers were willing to write for games like Piledriver and Wrestling League Simulator. That's pretty par for text games though. For example, even in my own wrestling game you can't use the arrow keys for accessing the menus because its a text based game using the print function and raw_input function in Python for displaying text and handling input. I wrote it that way to run on Windows, Linux, and Mac without having to add a bunch of extra stuff like Sapi support, SDL input, blah, blah, blah just to make a quick and simple wrestling game like Piledriver or Wrestling League Simulator. Although, I could have if I was really seriously interested in doing so. Cheers! On 8/26/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, Yep, your right. I hit the arrow keys and it kind of messes up the program causing it to loop like that. Thanks! al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
Well Scott and Will, Of course it's not that easy! lol! I just double checked BootCamp on an external SSD and while it appears from the descriptions that you can use external drives for Windows BootCamp partitions, apparently you cannot. So my bad. I'm betting this is hackable as I'd done things with Windows partitions in the past that are supposed to be impossible but right out of the box this seems not easily possible at the moment. My apologies if I've inadvertently done exactly what Thomas just spoke about recently! lol! Oops… I just wanted to double check and post this so no one wastes a bunch of time struggling with this. Anyway, night All and hope this helps… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 25, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Blimey, I didn't think it'd be quite so simple. I guess if you slim down the OS X installation, it's not much of a space hog really. Thanks for the tip, gonna make good use of it. Scott On 8/25/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hi Scott, I think we're on the same page. :) YOu'd install OSX on the external, and then boot from that. Once you'r up and running from the external, then you'd set up your BootCamp partition from that same drive. Does this make sense? Thanks, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Cara, Just checking I'm following you with this, because I wasn't aware that Boot Camp would run on anything other than the internal drive. Are you saying that so long as the copy of OS X that you run the Boot Camp creation wizard thingy from is running on an external, Boot Camp itself will work on that same drive? I'm guessing it's not possible to have Mac OS on the internal, and just the Boot Camp partition on an external drive without having two copies of Mac OS, if you see what I mean? Scott On 8/24/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Absolutely! :) You can install your Mac OS on that and then you'll have as much space as you need. From there you can choose to use a VM or partition. to boot from the external you simply hold down Option at startup and select the drive as you normally would with any other bootable disc. It might actually even be cheaper to get a standard laptop drive and inclosure separately and install the drive yourself. This can be very easy to do. If you have not done this before than you probably want sighted help the first time, but once you learn it it's really easy to do on your own. Hope this helps and have a great weekend! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Will will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: oh i can? On 24 Aug 2013, at 09:54, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: William, YOu can simply get a USB external HD or SSD and boot from that. So you can either run a VM on that or create a Windows partition on it. YOu'll have all the space you need and have it a lot cheaper than a whole new laptop. HTH Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 24, 2013, at 1:17 AM, William Lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: hi all as i have no room on my macbook air to put windows on yet still want play games, what is a good cheap laptop i can get for windows use to run audio games? i know netbooks are around but obviously their performance is not really to be fair cut out for gaming regards will --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
Yes, you can set up OSX really easily to boot from an external drive. I do it all the time, but apparently, even though the BootCamp descriptions say you can use a second drive for Windows, it seems you can not use an external. So my mistake. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I've definitely managed BootCamp partitions in ways that are not supposed to be possible in the past, and it may be possible to make this work, but right out of the box, this is not apparently possible just now. So apologies… Have a great night and talk with you soon! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Not sure about anyone else, but makes sense to me. Basically, you setup your external drive as a bootable drive complete with Mac OS X, Boot Camp, and Windows and when you plug it in and reboot the computer voila it boots up on the external instead of the internal drive. Cheers! On 8/25/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hi Scott, I think we're on the same page. :) YOu'd install OSX on the external, and then boot from that. Once you'r up and running from the external, then you'd set up your BootCamp partition from that same drive. Does this make sense? Thanks, Cara :) --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
Hi Cara, Thanks for the correction. It does seem to me though that there is a much simpler solution to this problem than the one you guys proposed, and it is this. When someone creates a virtual machine VMWare Workstation etc doesn't care where it resides as long as it can find it and load it. What about if Will were to load Windows XP etc into his external drive as a virtual machine? That way he could use as much of the external drive as he wants for his virtual machine, and still be able to store other stuff on it as well. It seems to me to be the most logical solution for this problem if Will doesn't want to buy a separate laptop for gaming. Of course, this assumes Will owns VMWare Fusion or Workstation already, and if he doesn't then it might not be so cost effective as buying a machine for this purpose outright. However, if he does this would be an easy solution to the problem. He could launch VMWare, create a virtual machine on the external, install XP there, and whenever he wants to play games just plug in the drive, launch VMWare Workstation, and voila. My only concern is that might cause a bit of lag when accessing files in the virtual machine, but it would be cheaper than buying a new laptop. Cheers! On 8/26/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Well Scott and Will, Of course it's not that easy! lol! I just double checked BootCamp on an external SSD and while it appears from the descriptions that you can use external drives for Windows BootCamp partitions, apparently you cannot. So my bad. I'm betting this is hackable as I'd done things with Windows partitions in the past that are supposed to be impossible but right out of the box this seems not easily possible at the moment. My apologies if I've inadvertently done exactly what Thomas just spoke about recently! lol! Oops… I just wanted to double check and post this so no one wastes a bunch of time struggling with this. Anyway, night All and hope this helps… Smiles, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
Hey Tom, Depends what games he's shooting for I guess. In my experience of Vmware Fusion, anything less than a beast of a computer feels kinda sluggish during game play when you're running it in a vm. Scott On 8/26/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Thanks for the correction. It does seem to me though that there is a much simpler solution to this problem than the one you guys proposed, and it is this. When someone creates a virtual machine VMWare Workstation etc doesn't care where it resides as long as it can find it and load it. What about if Will were to load Windows XP etc into his external drive as a virtual machine? That way he could use as much of the external drive as he wants for his virtual machine, and still be able to store other stuff on it as well. It seems to me to be the most logical solution for this problem if Will doesn't want to buy a separate laptop for gaming. Of course, this assumes Will owns VMWare Fusion or Workstation already, and if he doesn't then it might not be so cost effective as buying a machine for this purpose outright. However, if he does this would be an easy solution to the problem. He could launch VMWare, create a virtual machine on the external, install XP there, and whenever he wants to play games just plug in the drive, launch VMWare Workstation, and voila. My only concern is that might cause a bit of lag when accessing files in the virtual machine, but it would be cheaper than buying a new laptop. Cheers! On 8/26/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Well Scott and Will, Of course it's not that easy! lol! I just double checked BootCamp on an external SSD and while it appears from the descriptions that you can use external drives for Windows BootCamp partitions, apparently you cannot. So my bad. I'm betting this is hackable as I'd done things with Windows partitions in the past that are supposed to be impossible but right out of the box this seems not easily possible at the moment. My apologies if I've inadvertently done exactly what Thomas just spoke about recently! lol! Oops… I just wanted to double check and post this so no one wastes a bunch of time struggling with this. Anyway, night All and hope this helps… Smiles, Cara :) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
ok so i can not install mac osx on an external and then boot in to it and partition for bootcamp on that same drive as it will surely just think it is its own disc? i look forward to playing some of these newer windows japanese games if can get things working On 26 Aug 2013, at 07:27, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Yes, you can set up OSX really easily to boot from an external drive. I do it all the time, but apparently, even though the BootCamp descriptions say you can use a second drive for Windows, it seems you can not use an external. So my mistake. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I've definitely managed BootCamp partitions in ways that are not supposed to be possible in the past, and it may be possible to make this work, but right out of the box, this is not apparently possible just now. So apologies… Have a great night and talk with you soon! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Not sure about anyone else, but makes sense to me. Basically, you setup your external drive as a bootable drive complete with Mac OS X, Boot Camp, and Windows and when you plug it in and reboot the computer voila it boots up on the external instead of the internal drive. Cheers! On 8/25/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hi Scott, I think we're on the same page. :) YOu'd install OSX on the external, and then boot from that. Once you'r up and running from the external, then you'd set up your BootCamp partition from that same drive. Does this make sense? Thanks, Cara :) --- --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] windows laptops
Running a virtual machine on a Mac from an external drive using Fusion is totally possible, however I can tell you that USB 2 will give you a nasty performance hit. So if you have USB 3 or, better, Thunderbolt, then you should use it. Cheers, Sabahattin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions
yes virtual machines are choppy under windows. if you run them under linux they work great like if sonar was your primary OS rather than windows7 then your virtual machines would run nice and fast. sent from my vinux4 Linux laptop On 08/26/2013 12:34 AM, shaun everiss wrote: well I have a vm of sona 13.04 on windows7 but to be honest even with the hardware I have also same with xp both vms are quite choppy, and I havn't touched my vm at all. At 01:22 PM 8/26/2013, you wrote: I never really messed with Linux all that much. It got touched on in college back in the nineties for me, and at the time, I think it was called redhat or something like that. I was underwhelmed. Then again, I was sighted back then and loved windows so, shows what I know, lol. So this command prompt. Do I run DOSbox thru it, or does it act like Dos so I can play those old wrestling games? Thanks again for the help. al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions I play games like any night football and world series baseball in the xp dos command prompt. they work great. I am using vinux4 as my operating system and virtual machines are a whole lot more responsive running on top of linux than they are running on top of windows. not sure why that is. also since Linux is my primary OS I found my internet speed is so much faster than it was on windows. sent from my vinux4 Linux laptop On 08/25/2013 08:49 PM, Allan Thompson wrote: Oh, great, that is good news then! Thank you! al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions no they are not. just use windows xp and you can play the old dos games. NVDA works best in a dos box under xp iin the xp commmand command prompt window. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.
Hello Thomas Sorry to hear about your jaw. When you get back up and running and that is something you deside that is something you're going to do sign me up. I think that is something that I can realy learn from. bfn James -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch. Hi Lenron, Well, do to the fact my Jaw is currently messed up I am in no position to verbally give podcasts or talk anyone through programming, but I have been considering starting a wiki or blog with programming examples, tutorials, and articles aimed at helping someone get started. Do you think that would be enough? Cheers! On 8/23/13, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: I would learn better by someone walking me threw the process and maybe giving me some reference material to look at. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.
Hi James, Well, as I said in a prior post I can begin creating written tutorials and such and hopefully that will be a good starting place for you and many others. Besides that I have also decided to release some of my games as open source which should also be of some help to a learning developer. Cheers! On 8/26/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas Sorry to hear about your jaw. When you get back up and running and that is something you deside that is something you're going to do sign me up. I think that is something that I can realy learn from. bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.
Hello That would be very cool thank you. bfn James -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:41 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch. Hi James, Well, as I said in a prior post I can begin creating written tutorials and such and hopefully that will be a good starting place for you and many others. Besides that I have also decided to release some of my games as open source which should also be of some help to a learning developer. Cheers! On 8/26/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas Sorry to hear about your jaw. When you get back up and running and that is something you deside that is something you're going to do sign me up. I think that is something that I can realy learn from. bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch.
Oh really? That would all be splendid! Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . Crazy Ken - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming in Batch. Hi James, Well, as I said in a prior post I can begin creating written tutorials and such and hopefully that will be a good starting place for you and many others. Besides that I have also decided to release some of my games as open source which should also be of some help to a learning developer. Cheers! On 8/26/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Thomas Sorry to hear about your jaw. When you get back up and running and that is something you deside that is something you're going to do sign me up. I think that is something that I can realy learn from. bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I guess I am so used to arrow keys and the like that it never even occurred to me not to use them. So far, it has been going well...although now my problem is that the options, you know, to press 1 for this and 2 for that, sometimes doesn't show up or doesn't get read by the screen reader, I am not sure which. I thought maybe trying to root jaws to pc would help, but that just screwed up and made things go back to the constant looping of reading everything, lol. I think I will look forward to playing the one you make. Text is just fine if that is what you want to do. Thanks again, al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling Hi Al, Ah, yes. That will do it alright. You need to keep in mind these are text based games from the 90's designed for Dos not Windows. That's why things like the arrow keys do not work because they didn't have things like DirectInput for dos and it was difficult to write applications that used keys that didn't map to a simple ASCII keycode. The cin function in C++, which I suspect they are using, can only accept input from letters, numbers, and symbols like plus, minus, divide, and so on. Keys like the arrow keys, home, end, page up, page down, and so on don't have a specific keycode and require a much more complex input handling system than I suspect the developers were willing to write for games like Piledriver and Wrestling League Simulator. That's pretty par for text games though. For example, even in my own wrestling game you can't use the arrow keys for accessing the menus because its a text based game using the print function and raw_input function in Python for displaying text and handling input. I wrote it that way to run on Windows, Linux, and Mac without having to add a bunch of extra stuff like Sapi support, SDL input, blah, blah, blah just to make a quick and simple wrestling game like Piledriver or Wrestling League Simulator. Although, I could have if I was really seriously interested in doing so. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
If you want to dig it up, NVDA does a much much better job than jaws with command line applications; I've never scene it miss text, and it doesn't repeat anything. Just google nvda and you should be able to find it pretty easily. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:31:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I guess I am so used to arrow keys and the like that it never even occurred to me not to use them. So far, it has been going well...although now my problem is that the options, you know, to press 1 for this and 2 for that, sometimes doesn't show up or doesn't get read by the screen reader, I am not sure which. I thought maybe trying to root jaws to pc would help, but that just screwed up and made things go back to the constant looping of reading everything, lol. I think I will look forward to playing the one you make. Text is just fine if that is what you want to do. Thanks again, al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
Hi Al, If using Jaws you have to switch to the Jaws cursor to read the screen. there is no PC cursor in Dos apps so that is why trying to route Jaws to PC doesn't work. However, your problems have made me rethink the wisdom of writing purely text based games. While it is easier to do from a technical standpoint I realize that because of Windows many people don't know or have forgotten how to use purely text based applications. They assume, for example, because every Windows application has a PC cursor that there is one in the text based game they are using and make mistakes like trying to route the Jaws cursor to the non-existent PC cursor, or try to use arrow keys when the app wasn't designed for them. For those and probably potentially other reasons maybe I should make my wrestling game a fully graphical application, self voicing, etc as it would be universally accessible and no one would be left confused looking at an out dated interface. Cheers! On 8/26/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I guess I am so used to arrow keys and the like that it never even occurred to me not to use them. So far, it has been going well...although now my problem is that the options, you know, to press 1 for this and 2 for that, sometimes doesn't show up or doesn't get read by the screen reader, I am not sure which. I thought maybe trying to root jaws to pc would help, but that just screwed up and made things go back to the constant looping of reading everything, lol. I think I will look forward to playing the one you make. Text is just fine if that is what you want to do. Thanks again, al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
I do have NVDA and it seemed to skip menu choices sometimes, but maybe that was before my arrow key fiasco, grin. I will give it another shot, thanks! al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:11 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling If you want to dig it up, NVDA does a much much better job than jaws with command line applications; I've never scene it miss text, and it doesn't repeat anything. Just google nvda and you should be able to find it pretty easily. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling
Hi Tom, Well...at least there is that silver lining to my ignorance, lol. I am sorry to have been such a bother, but maybe it was better to figure out this kind of thing now, rather then later, maybe? I mean, is it a huge amount of work? I wonder if other blind wrestling fans are going to be waiting outside my house to give me a pile driver now, lol. al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] command prompt and wrestling Hi Al, If using Jaws you have to switch to the Jaws cursor to read the screen. there is no PC cursor in Dos apps so that is why trying to route Jaws to PC doesn't work. However, your problems have made me rethink the wisdom of writing purely text based games. While it is easier to do from a technical standpoint I realize that because of Windows many people don't know or have forgotten how to use purely text based applications. They assume, for example, because every Windows application has a PC cursor that there is one in the text based game they are using and make mistakes like trying to route the Jaws cursor to the non-existent PC cursor, or try to use arrow keys when the app wasn't designed for them. For those and probably potentially other reasons maybe I should make my wrestling game a fully graphical application, self voicing, etc as it would be universally accessible and no one would be left confused looking at an out dated interface. Cheers! On 8/26/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for that. I guess I am so used to arrow keys and the like that it never even occurred to me not to use them. So far, it has been going well...although now my problem is that the options, you know, to press 1 for this and 2 for that, sometimes doesn't show up or doesn't get read by the screen reader, I am not sure which. I thought maybe trying to root jaws to pc would help, but that just screwed up and made things go back to the constant looping of reading everything, lol. I think I will look forward to playing the one you make. Text is just fine if that is what you want to do. Thanks again, al --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] aac game query
heloo in the AAC game how do you run? also how do you defeat the viruses in intro fase when you are asked to keep viruses away from the tutor helper? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions
well I really have no cds for the laptop, and windows is my primary os I don't really need linux as my primary os really. At 11:51 PM 8/26/2013, you wrote: yes virtual machines are choppy under windows. if you run them under linux they work great like if sonar was your primary OS rather than windows7 then your virtual machines would run nice and fast. sent from my vinux4 Linux laptop On 08/26/2013 12:34 AM, shaun everiss wrote: well I have a vm of sona 13.04 on windows7 but to be honest even with the hardware I have also same with xp both vms are quite choppy, and I havn't touched my vm at all. At 01:22 PM 8/26/2013, you wrote: I never really messed with Linux all that much. It got touched on in college back in the nineties for me, and at the time, I think it was called redhat or something like that. I was underwhelmed. Then again, I was sighted back then and loved windows so, shows what I know, lol. So this command prompt. Do I run DOSbox thru it, or does it act like Dos so I can play those old wrestling games? Thanks again for the help. al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions I play games like any night football and world series baseball in the xp dos command prompt. they work great. I am using vinux4 as my operating system and virtual machines are a whole lot more responsive running on top of linux than they are running on top of windows. not sure why that is. also since Linux is my primary OS I found my internet speed is so much faster than it was on windows. sent from my vinux4 Linux laptop On 08/25/2013 08:49 PM, Allan Thompson wrote: Oh, great, that is good news then! Thank you! al -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 8:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] DosBox questions no they are not. just use windows xp and you can play the old dos games. NVDA works best in a dos box under xp iin the xp commmand command prompt window. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or
