Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: dialogue flight simulator
I think this would have a much steeper learning curve than TDV, although I think that some of these ideas could be used in a good flight sim. A true flight sim should have exactly the number of buttons and sliders that a real plane would have, giving you a true, accurate experience of flying. Check out my games at www.ThePionEar.net and my music, and that of my band, at www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html . Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes! If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, (KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . - Original Message - From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 10:53 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: dialogue flight simulator Hi all For those of you who are looking for a new game concept to develop, I've been thinking of a new kind of flight simulator that is basically a massive dialogue box with lots of buttons, radio buttons and sliders. I remember when I was a kid, I was flying by plane to visit my parents in the school holiday. I asked the attendant during a certain flight how a plane works, how the pilot drives the plane. And she told me that the pilot drives the plane by pressing lots of buttons the whole time during the flight. The attendant told me that there is lots of buttons and levers on the pannel in front of the pilot and each button and lever has a color and size. That was 30 years ago. But I think it would be a neat concept for someone who wish to develop a flight simulator . A flight simulator like three d velocity have a very steep learning curve. I think it would be fun to drive a plane by only pressing lots of buttons the whole time. I think that a dialogue box flight game would have a less steep learning curve. So basically this game is only a dialogue box. For the beginner there is a training mode where the pilot is training a new pilot. So the gamer navigates this dialogue box , like all other dialogue boxes, with the tab key. Each button's name is a color. Let's say we navigate with tab and our screen reader says for example small white button. Now we press tab and the next button's name is large brown button. Etc. The game then has at training mode where the pilot teaches the new pilot which buttons to press to take off and land etc. Lets say for example the pilot says: to take off you need to press 5 buttons. First you need to find and press the small white button and then the brown large button. Then you need to find and press the second one of a group of 5 blac radio buttons. Then you need to find and pull a large black lever or slider. Then you need to find and pull a small white lever. Then the plane successfully is taking off. So now the challenge comes in for the gamer to navigate with tab in time until he finds the small white button etc. What can make this challenging is to find the necessary buttons in a short amount of time. Lets say the gamer have to press tab 7 times to get to the small white button, then 5 times to get to the brown large button. Then tab 8 times to get to the group of black radio buttons. Etc. So based on what the flight attendant told me when I was flying by plane 30 years ago: this dialogue box contains command buttons, radio buttons and levers or sliders such as the sliders in the windows volume control. The attendant told me that driving the plane requires that the pilot presses buttons and turning levers the whole time during the flight. So lets say the challenge comes in that, if the gamer takes too long to find and press a button or pull a lever, that something fatal happens for example the plane falls to the ground. I don't know how planes is driven in south africa these days. I only recall what the attendant told me when I flown by plane 30 years ago. I think this dialogue box flight simulator will not only be fun but would also teach a blind person new to the windows environment, to navigate in dialogue boxes. This kind of game can also improve one's memory. In dialogue boxes in windows programs each field in the dialogue has a hot key. So lets say that the group of black radio buttons has alt b as hot key. Now the gamer first gets training mode where he explores all the buttons and levers on the pannel memorizing the hot keys. So during an actual flight the gamer either have to press tab quickly to get to the right button or lever, or the gamer have to remember that button or slider's hot key. Hot keys of fields in dialogue boxes always is the alt key together with a letter key. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] I still need help to buy bopit xt
well if you have farmers or the warehouse where you are then you are probably ok or something like k mart then you should be ok. At 11:35 PM 11/11/2013, you wrote: Hi all I am still struggling a lot to buy bopit xt. Tom thanks, I clicked on the link you gave for the accessible amazon page. I clicked on the link to purchase bopit xt. I gave my full address. The website tells me: your order contains an item that cannot be shipped to the specified address. Please can you advise me of a place where I can buy bopit xt? I need bopit xt to be shipped to me as I reside in south africa. I have contacted toy stores in south africa such as toys are us but they don't know where I can get bopit xt. Which toy store in the US would you recommend buying bopit xt from that will ship it to me? Any help is much appreciated. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
mine was in a book cover type thing and it had obviously been well used. At 02:30 AM 11/12/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I see. Well, when I got mine it came with a computer I had purchased at the time and my copy of Silent Steel came in a cardboard sleeve that folded out with all four discs in it. Despite having it for nearly 20 years they are still in good condition and the cardboard sleeve is a little warn, but still in decent shape. Whoever had the discs before you must have beaten the crap out of them. Cheers! On 11/10/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well I don't, I got the game second hand as the disks were already in that condition, cost me 20 bucks for it. the case was in bad condition. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: dialogue flight simulator
Hi nickel. I understand where you are coming from. Your idea as it is is um, well to put it politely rather jumbled and messsy. Firstly a game like this could be made but people wouldn't like it. You are thinking of something like flight simulator for ms. I can see that now. Unfortunately, have you had any idea how much time it would take to make that. Ok we could make a room with different buttons to push and levers to pull but there has never been enough things or to many. I am not sure how it would work. At 04:53 AM 11/12/2013, you wrote: Hi all For those of you who are looking for a new game concept to develop, I've been thinking of a new kind of flight simulator that is basically a massive dialogue box with lots of buttons, radio buttons and sliders. I remember when I was a kid, I was flying by plane to visit my parents in the school holiday. I asked the attendant during a certain flight how a plane works, how the pilot drives the plane. And she told me that the pilot drives the plane by pressing lots of buttons the whole time during the flight. The attendant told me that there is lots of buttons and levers on the pannel in front of the pilot and each button and lever has a color and size. That was 30 years ago. But I think it would be a neat concept for someone who wish to develop a flight simulator . A flight simulator like three d velocity have a very steep learning curve. I think it would be fun to drive a plane by only pressing lots of buttons the whole time. I think that a dialogue box flight game would have a less steep learning curve. So basically this game is only a dialogue box. For the beginner there is a training mode where the pilot is training a new pilot. So the gamer navigates this dialogue box , like all other dialogue boxes, with the tab key. Each button's name is a color. Let's say we navigate with tab and our screen reader says for example small white button. Now we press tab and the next button's name is large brown button. Etc. The game then has at training mode where the pilot teaches the new pilot which buttons to press to take off and land etc. Lets say for example the pilot says: to take off you need to press 5 buttons. First you need to find and press the small white button and then the brown large button. Then you need to find and press the second one of a group of 5 blac radio buttons. Then you need to find and pull a large black lever or slider. Then you need to find and pull a small white lever. Then the plane successfully is taking off. So now the challenge comes in for the gamer to navigate with tab in time until he finds the small white button etc. What can make this challenging is to find the necessary buttons in a short amount of time. Lets say the gamer have to press tab 7 times to get to the small white button, then 5 times to get to the brown large button. Then tab 8 times to get to the group of black radio buttons. Etc. So based on what the flight attendant told me when I was flying by plane 30 years ago: this dialogue box contains command buttons, radio buttons and levers or sliders such as the sliders in the windows volume control. The attendant told me that driving the plane requires that the pilot presses buttons and turning levers the whole time during the flight. So lets say the challenge comes in that, if the gamer takes too long to find and press a button or pull a lever, that something fatal happens for example the plane falls to the ground. I don't know how planes is driven in south africa these days. I only recall what the attendant told me when I flown by plane 30 years ago. I think this dialogue box flight simulator will not only be fun but would also teach a blind person new to the windows environment, to navigate in dialogue boxes. This kind of game can also improve one's memory. In dialogue boxes in windows programs each field in the dialogue has a hot key. So lets say that the group of black radio buttons has alt b as hot key. Now the gamer first gets training mode where he explores all the buttons and levers on the pannel memorizing the hot keys. So during an actual flight the gamer either have to press tab quickly to get to the right button or lever, or the gamer have to remember that button or slider's hot key. Hot keys of fields in dialogue boxes always is the alt key together with a letter key. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: dialogue flight simulator
also there is a load of computer stuff. we already have its your plane and ms flight sim if you really want to go down that hill. I agree with the general concept of a flight sim. At 05:06 AM 11/12/2013, you wrote: Here are my first thoughts: Far too much tabbing. Very simplistic. Also, to a lot of people who have never seen before, a color name is just that; a name. Other than that, they mean nothing in the way of feedback. While a sighted pilot sees all of the buttons, levers, and everything at a glance and does not have to hunt for controls, this would be very time consuming for a blind pilot, and you have to be quick to operate controls at times. Having to tab for everything would prevent this from being done in a smooth time frame. This would result in a very tedious and not very realistic flight simulator game that, to me, would not be very entertaining. - Original Message - From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:53 AM Subject: [Audyssey] games we'd like to play: dialogue flight simulator Hi all For those of you who are looking for a new game concept to develop, I've been thinking of a new kind of flight simulator that is basically a massive dialogue box with lots of buttons, radio buttons and sliders. I remember when I was a kid, I was flying by plane to visit my parents in the school holiday. I asked the attendant during a certain flight how a plane works, how the pilot drives the plane. And she told me that the pilot drives the plane by pressing lots of buttons the whole time during the flight. The attendant told me that there is lots of buttons and levers on the pannel in front of the pilot and each button and lever has a color and size. That was 30 years ago. But I think it would be a neat concept for someone who wish to develop a flight simulator . A flight simulator like three d velocity have a very steep learning curve. I think it would be fun to drive a plane by only pressing lots of buttons the whole time. I think that a dialogue box flight game would have a less steep learning curve. So basically this game is only a dialogue box. For the beginner there is a training mode where the pilot is training a new pilot. So the gamer navigates this dialogue box , like all other dialogue boxes, with the tab key. Each button's name is a color. Let's say we navigate with tab and our screen reader says for example small white button. Now we press tab and the next button's name is large brown button. Etc. The game then has at training mode where the pilot teaches the new pilot which buttons to press to take off and land etc. Lets say for example the pilot says: to take off you need to press 5 buttons. First you need to find and press the small white button and then the brown large button. Then you need to find and press the second one of a group of 5 blac radio buttons. Then you need to find and pull a large black lever or slider. Then you need to find and pull a small white lever. Then the plane successfully is taking off. So now the challenge comes in for the gamer to navigate with tab in time until he finds the small white button etc. What can make this challenging is to find the necessary buttons in a short amount of time. Lets say the gamer have to press tab 7 times to get to the small white button, then 5 times to get to the brown large button. Then tab 8 times to get to the group of black radio buttons. Etc. So based on what the flight attendant told me when I was flying by plane 30 years ago: this dialogue box contains command buttons, radio buttons and levers or sliders such as the sliders in the windows volume control. The attendant told me that driving the plane requires that the pilot presses buttons and turning levers the whole time during the flight. So lets say the challenge comes in that, if the gamer takes too long to find and press a button or pull a lever, that something fatal happens for example the plane falls to the ground. I don't know how planes is driven in south africa these days. I only recall what the attendant told me when I flown by plane 30 years ago. I think this dialogue box flight simulator will not only be fun but would also teach a blind person new to the windows environment, to navigate in dialogue boxes. This kind of game can also improve one's memory. In dialogue boxes in windows programs each field in the dialogue has a hot key. So lets say that the group of black radio buttons has alt b as hot key. Now the gamer first gets training mode where he explores all the buttons and levers on the pannel memorizing the hot keys. So during an actual flight the gamer either have to press tab quickly to get to the right button or lever, or the gamer have to remember that button or slider's hot key. Hot keys of fields in dialogue boxes always is the alt key together with a letter key. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the
[Audyssey] Classic Troopanum
I have a question from a friend who is not on this list, copied and pasted below. I've just been playing Classic Troopanum for a bit. Can I ask do you know if its possible to turn the music off? I'm finding it very difficult to hear the ships! Its not mentioned in the configuration utility, the game main options or the documentation. Any help welcome. Thanks! -- E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
