Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0

2013-11-18 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Josh,
Wow, a new Space Invader's game built into DoItWrite!
I had to laugh when I read,
Rated 9+ for the following:
Infrequent/Mild Cartoon or Fantasy Violence
Maybe they are commenting on the smart-alicky and menacing voice that 
accompanies the game.

It almost sounds like the same Bowl-Ing-Ball voice from Ten Pin Alley.
To make the game more difficult, how about dropping two or three different 
letters at the same time?

You would hear,
G., K.,
G. K.
G, K,
G K
GK
boom.
smiles,
Phil


- Original Message - 
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0


Bought the game earlier and wow it is very good indeed. This will 
certainly challenge me when learning to handwrite. I can handwrite after 
being encouraged to at school but it's squiggly at best. Also drawing on 
the screen is something relatively new to most of us I think. Well done 
guys and keep it up!


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 17/11/2013 15:38, dark wrote:

Wow, sounds like a good and interesting thing, people always say my
signature looks chinese, it'll be interesting to see if this improves it.

Is there an audio podcast or demonstration that people could have a
listen to before trying the game?

All the best,

Drk.
- Original Message - From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:42 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0



Greetings gamers,

We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first
application for iOS!

DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired
users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters
and numbers for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7.

Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for
use with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature!

This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired,
teachers or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver
screen reader.

Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the
shapes of printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to
draw them in a simple way that has the best chance of being correctly
recognized by VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of
the characters previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed
and accuracy with a fun game to blast characters as they tumble down
the screen!

* Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7
* Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as
numbers in a simple and accurate way.
* Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers
as they tumble down the screen.
* Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the
keyboard during game play.
* Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output.
* DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and
permits the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great
for sighted teachers and tutors!
* Share your game scores with others.
* Many ways to customize your learning experience.

DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices
will vary for your local currency.)

http://appstore.com/doitwrite

For more information, visit us online at
http://DracoEnt.com

Happy gaming.


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Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0

2013-11-18 Thread Draconis
Hi Phil,

Yeah, on the rating thing…we always fill out the rating form on the 
conservative side for the Apple App Stores.

Multi character attacks might be something we could look into for a future 
update.

We’re very proud to have the Draconis Engine included in shipping products 
across all three target platforms now. Much more in the works.

On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote:

 Hi Josh,
 Wow, a new Space Invader's game built into DoItWrite!
 I had to laugh when I read,
 Rated 9+ for the following:
 Infrequent/Mild Cartoon or Fantasy Violence
 Maybe they are commenting on the smart-alicky and menacing voice that 
 accompanies the game.
 It almost sounds like the same Bowl-Ing-Ball voice from Ten Pin Alley.
 To make the game more difficult, how about dropping two or three different 
 letters at the same time?
 You would hear,
 G., K.,
 G. K.
 G, K,
 G K
 GK
 boom.
 smiles,
 Phil
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
 
 
 Bought the game earlier and wow it is very good indeed. This will certainly 
 challenge me when learning to handwrite. I can handwrite after being 
 encouraged to at school but it's squiggly at best. Also drawing on the 
 screen is something relatively new to most of us I think. Well done guys and 
 keep it up!
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 17/11/2013 15:38, dark wrote:
 Wow, sounds like a good and interesting thing, people always say my
 signature looks chinese, it'll be interesting to see if this improves it.
 
 Is there an audio podcast or demonstration that people could have a
 listen to before trying the game?
 
 All the best,
 
 Drk.
 - Original Message - From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:42 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0
 
 
 Greetings gamers,
 
 We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first
 application for iOS!
 
 DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired
 users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters
 and numbers for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7.
 
 Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for
 use with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature!
 
 This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired,
 teachers or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver
 screen reader.
 
 Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the
 shapes of printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to
 draw them in a simple way that has the best chance of being correctly
 recognized by VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of
 the characters previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed
 and accuracy with a fun game to blast characters as they tumble down
 the screen!
 
 * Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7
 * Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as
 numbers in a simple and accurate way.
 * Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers
 as they tumble down the screen.
 * Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the
 keyboard during game play.
 * Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output.
 * DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and
 permits the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great
 for sighted teachers and tutors!
 * Share your game scores with others.
 * Many ways to customize your learning experience.
 
 DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices
 will vary for your local currency.)
 
 http://appstore.com/doitwrite
 
 For more information, visit us online at
 http://DracoEnt.com
 
 Happy gaming.
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0

2013-11-18 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Josh,
To encourage the little kids to buy the app, maybe you need to be more 
descriptive:

Rated 9+ for the following:
Intense Infrequent/Mild Cartoon or Fantasy  sequences of violence to numbers 
and letters, heart stopping falling character action, some frightening sound 
effects, and suggestive letters such as f and x.


- Original Message - 
From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0


Hi Phil,

Yeah, on the rating thing…we always fill out the rating form on the 
conservative side for the Apple App Stores.


Multi character attacks might be something we could look into for a future 
update.


We’re very proud to have the Draconis Engine included in shipping products 
across all three target platforms now. Much more in the works.


On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote:


Hi Josh,
Wow, a new Space Invader's game built into DoItWrite!
I had to laugh when I read,
Rated 9+ for the following:
Infrequent/Mild Cartoon or Fantasy Violence
Maybe they are commenting on the smart-alicky and menacing voice that 
accompanies the game.

It almost sounds like the same Bowl-Ing-Ball voice from Ten Pin Alley.
To make the game more difficult, how about dropping two or three different 
letters at the same time?

You would hear,
G., K.,
G. K.
G, K,
G K
GK
boom.
smiles,
Phil


- Original Message - From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0


Bought the game earlier and wow it is very good indeed. This will 
certainly challenge me when learning to handwrite. I can handwrite after 
being encouraged to at school but it's squiggly at best. Also drawing on 
the screen is something relatively new to most of us I think. Well done 
guys and keep it up!


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 17/11/2013 15:38, dark wrote:

Wow, sounds like a good and interesting thing, people always say my
signature looks chinese, it'll be interesting to see if this improves 
it.


Is there an audio podcast or demonstration that people could have a
listen to before trying the game?

All the best,

Drk.
- Original Message - From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:42 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Draconis Releases DoItWrite 1.0



Greetings gamers,

We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of our first
application for iOS!

DoItWrite is an educational tool and game to teach visually impaired
users of iOS 7's VoiceOver screen reader how to draw printed letters
and numbers for use with VoiceOver's handwriting feature in iOS 7.

Learn to draw lowercase letters, uppercase letters;;, and numbers for
use with iOS 7's VoiceOver handwriting feature!

This app is primarily intended for the blind or visually impaired,
teachers or instructors of same, and other users of iOS 7's VoiceOver
screen reader.

Many blind or visually impaired people are not familiar with the
shapes of printed letters or numbers. DoItWrite teaches you how to
draw them in a simple way that has the best chance of being correctly
recognized by VoiceOver, even if you have never learned the shapes of
the characters previously. Once you get them down, practice your speed
and accuracy with a fun game to blast characters as they tumble down
the screen!

* Learn how to activate the VoiceOver handwriting feature in iOS 7
* Learn how to draw lowercase and uppercase letters, as well as
numbers in a simple and accurate way.
* Practice your newly acquired skills by blasting letters and numbers
as they tumble down the screen.
* Use the app to improve your onscreen typing skills by using the
keyboard during game play.
* Automatic feedback and coach via audio queues and speech output.
* DoItWrite automatically detects when VoiceOver is not running, and
permits the tutorial to be browsed with the onscreen keyboard. Great
for sighted teachers and tutors!
* Share your game scores with others.
* Many ways to customize your learning experience.

DoItWrite is available on the iOS App Store for $1.99 USD. (Prices
will vary for your local currency.)

http://appstore.com/doitwrite

For more information, visit us online at
http://DracoEnt.com

Happy gaming.


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[Audyssey] adult games

2013-11-18 Thread Meka White, LMP
Hello everyone,

Lately, I have found myself playing flexible Survival, the mud.  It has a 
theme that I greatly enjoy--post-apocalypse with many darker, more adult 
themes.

I would like to find more games like this.  I know that there is one called 
Coruption of Champions, but it didn't seem accessible from the outset.  It 
is a game that is played in flash via the internet, and no matter what I 
tried, I couldn't get it to start.

If you have any suggestions, please let me know.  I much prefer intricate, 
more involved games where strategy is involved.  I like the idea of building 
societies just as much as I like the idea of being able to rule them using 
some of those darker-edged themes.

Thank you.

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Re: [Audyssey] adult games

2013-11-18 Thread lindsay_cowell
That mud sounds good, can I have the details?

Lindsay Cowell.

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Subject: [Audyssey] adult games
From: Meka White, LMP m...@melodicmassage.com
Date: 19/11/2013 2:08 am

Hello everyone,

Lately, I have found myself playing flexible Survival, the mud.  It has a 
theme that I greatly enjoy--post-apocalypse with many darker, more adult 
themes.

I would like to find more games like this.  I know that there is one called 
Coruption of Champions, but it didn't seem accessible from the outset.  It 
is a game that is played in flash via the internet, and no matter what I 
tried, I couldn't get it to start.

If you have any suggestions, please let me know.  I much prefer intricate, 
more involved games where strategy is involved.  I like the idea of building 
societies just as much as I like the idea of being able to rule them using 
some of those darker-edged themes.

Thank you.

Meka 



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Re: [Audyssey] adult games

2013-11-18 Thread Shannon Dyer
I really like Flexible Survival. I know there's a mud called Hellmoo, but I 
don't really know much about it. It's something I keep meaning to look into.

Shannon
On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Meka White, LMP m...@melodicmassage.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 Lately, I have found myself playing flexible Survival, the mud.  It has a 
 theme that I greatly enjoy--post-apocalypse with many darker, more adult 
 themes.
 
 I would like to find more games like this.  I know that there is one called 
 Coruption of Champions, but it didn't seem accessible from the outset.  It 
 is a game that is played in flash via the internet, and no matter what I 
 tried, I couldn't get it to start.
 
 If you have any suggestions, please let me know.  I much prefer intricate, 
 more involved games where strategy is involved.  I like the idea of building 
 societies just as much as I like the idea of being able to rule them using 
 some of those darker-edged themes.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Meka 
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re:ModeratorImportantMessage

2013-11-18 Thread Ken Downey

A billion friend requests? Oo Dark, I'm jealous! lol
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, 
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .
- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - 
Re:ModeratorImportantMessage




Hi charlse.

That might be true, but it just seems facebook is used far more for that 
sort of thing than E-mail, and also, when I last tried it, where as E-mail 
you can filter out the rubbish, faceiook your just shown a hole slue of 
things, most of which is! garbage, or at least trivia your probably not 
interested in unless your casually friends with that person in real life 
and care about their everyday existance or are interested in that subject.


of course for sighted people who can skim read at a greater rate and thus 
can take in information quickly, acebook having a scattered interface 
matters less, but I found myself having to waid through  aa bazillion 
friend requests and post from people about what time they get up before I 
found something interesting was quite a pest.


All the best,

Dark.
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: 
ModeratorImportantMessage



As for the fact that you get messages from people that they just woke up 
and stuff like that, I blame that on the authors, not the method of 
communication.  Just like when people send garbage Emails, it's not the 
fault of the Email client.  It's the fault of the sender.


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- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: Moderator 
ImportantMessage



Well #Charlse, much as with forums and mail, twitter and facebook have 
their own bennifits and flaws.


I personally really dislike facebooks' interface and the fact that it 
runs slowly on any machine I've tried it on. I also dislike the fact it 
throws so much information at me, most of which I don't want such as 
suggested contacts or friend requests or the like, not to mention all 
those people who just write on facebook about what they've had for 
breakfast or whatever which unfortunately you still! have to see lots of 
ieven if you don't want to.


Twitter I've never tried but I look on a bit more favourably since you 
can at least just recieve what tweets you want, however your still 
limited in size of tweet and what you do with it, and the fact that 
twitter comes in when you don't necessarily want rather than forum or 
mails which you can check when you wish or not when you don't.


I'll also say for actual formal communications E-mails are great. They 
come automatically with time and date, and you can attach things to 
them, indeed I communicate with my university, both in terms of having 
mails of what's going on and in terms of submitting my thesis or 
communicating with my department entirely! through E-mail, as does my 
brothers' law firm, so all these things have a use depending upon what 
you want from them and what your personal likes or dislikes are.


All the best,

Drk.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: Moderator Important 
Message



I know someone who was exclusively using Twitter and Facebook.  He did 
not use Email because, quote, It is old fashioned and obsolete.  You 
should get with the times., end quote.  He wanted to have someone play 
some of his recordings in an Internet chat room for people to hear. 
Nobody could receive the files because nobody used Facebook or Twitter. 
He complained because he could not send them to anyone, and, finally, 
after this went on for about 6 months every week, he set up an Email 
account.  Whether it might seem obsolete to the younger crowd, it is 
accessible to everyone, so is not something that should be done away 
with just because it has been around for a long time.  What works works, 
and if it does work, don't discard it.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message



Hi Tom.

Well I know people do comment about mailing lists being old fashioned, 
but actually there are still 

Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: Moderator ImportantMessage

2013-11-18 Thread Ken Downey
Hey Dark, email can be just about as bad as Facebook. Case and point: i know 
you own grues, and I know it's your grues that have been spamming me. Tell 
them to stop it lol.
Anyway, Facebook is terrible unless you either use the mobile version or the 
iOS app.

Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend me on Facebook, 
(KenWDowney,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com .
- Original Message - 
From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: Moderator 
ImportantMessage



Well #Charlse, much as with forums and mail, twitter and facebook have 
their own bennifits and flaws.


I personally really dislike facebooks' interface and the fact that it runs 
slowly on any machine I've tried it on. I also dislike the fact it throws 
so much information at me, most of which I don't want such as suggested 
contacts or friend requests or the like, not to mention all those people 
who just write on facebook about what they've had for breakfast or 
whatever which unfortunately you still! have to see lots of ieven if you 
don't want to.


Twitter I've never tried but I look on a bit more favourably since you can 
at least just recieve what tweets you want, however your still limited in 
size of tweet and what you do with it, and the fact that twitter comes in 
when you don't necessarily want rather than forum or mails which you can 
check when you wish or not when you don't.


I'll also say for actual formal communications E-mails are great. They 
come automatically with time and date, and you can attach things to them, 
indeed I communicate with my university, both in terms of having mails of 
what's going on and in terms of submitting my thesis or communicating with 
my department entirely! through E-mail, as does my brothers' law firm, so 
all these things have a use depending upon what you want from them and 
what your personal likes or dislikes are.


All the best,

Drk.
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From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] the value of a program - Re: Moderator Important 
Message



I know someone who was exclusively using Twitter and Facebook.  He did not 
use Email because, quote, It is old fashioned and obsolete.  You should 
get with the times., end quote.  He wanted to have someone play some of 
his recordings in an Internet chat room for people to hear.  Nobody could 
receive the files because nobody used Facebook or Twitter.  He complained 
because he could not send them to anyone, and, finally, after this went on 
for about 6 months every week, he set up an Email account.  Whether it 
might seem obsolete to the younger crowd, it is accessible to everyone, so 
is not something that should be done away with just because it has been 
around for a long time.  What works works, and if it does work, don't 
discard it.


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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message



Hi Tom.

Well I know people do comment about mailing lists being old fashioned, 
but actually there are still lots of them around and likely to be more 
considdering that people now get E-mail on their tablets, phones, even 
tvs, heck, there are still! some very well established newsgroups out 
there, it's all about choice hwich is why I'm in favour of keeping the 
mailing list open.


if google groups is no longer workable (I admit it's been a while since 
I looked into their interface), then another system might work, though 
obviously that's a matter for those who run the list to decide upon 
since it's yourself and the other mods who must deal with the interface 
and admin console.


Indeed, this is a major difference between mailing lists and forums, 
different forums can change access dramatically, and I've seen 
everything from very accessible systems like Punbb, (which 
audiogames.net uses), to all sorts of silly things such as proboards or 
even custom built systems.


Forums really can change in access and usability as much as web pages 
can, where as a mailing list just gives out E-mails to members and it's 
accessibility is thus entirely dependent upon a members' E-mail client, 
which again is a major advantage.


All the best,

Dark.



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2013-11-18 Thread Ken Downey
Cool. I've joined the list, and I know it'll help keep me up to date with 
the forum. Thanks!

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From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Important Message


Mailing lists and forums are just different, and serve different purposes. 
While I can confidently claim to prefer mailing lists for lots of 
technical reasons, and have on more than one occasion in the past declared 
my hatred of forums on this list, I strongly suggest people actually have 
a good poke around on forum.audiogames.net before dismissing the idea.  It 
really is a nice, well-managed forum that is light on bloat, and in fact 
is very friendly to javascriptless, mobile browsers including most 
blindness note-takers.  It's a great place to hang out when I have the 
time, and in fact I generally prefer to catch up there, due to the 
archival and organisational properties that are inherent to the forum.  I 
have also set up a list specifically to reflect the forum postings back to 
me in email, so that I can follow in my email clients, which is very quick 
and convenient; once you've logged in at the forum, just click the link to 
reply to each incoming message, and you wouldn't notice you were using a 
forum at all.  That list, for those who want the same treatment, is at:

http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

The main advantages of a mailing list are choices of email client, easy 
cross-participation in multiple lists, speed for the user in receiving and 
sending messages and robustness of the discussion against downtime or 
censorship.  This latter is sadly less and less true as more people move 
to Google Groups or whatever, and also due to the spam filters of various 
brain-dead providers.  The main advantages of a forum are generally better 
etiquette (especially where blindness lists are concerned, I find), 
intuitive archival and organisation of threads, centralised features such 
as voting or editing of posts, and a much lower curve to discovery and 
participation which leads to a broader base of contributions and a 
somewhat more relaxed attitude to off-topic discussion and community. 
Which one you prefer, or whether you prefer both, is so much about 
preference that trying to decide which is Better is unlikely to produce 
a useful conclusion for everybody.  I also need to point out that some 
software now has the ability to gateway natively to mailing lists, which 
would mean that if people liked the interface, it would certainly be 
possible to support both forum and list simultaneously.  Mozilla does 
this, offering NNTP, email and HTTP access to discussions, and it seems to 
work for them.


HTH.

Cheers,
Sabahattin


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