Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss
Well hopefully from a tech standpoint I won't have to upgrade at 
least 2 of the units here for at least another 5 or 6 years.
And to be honest unless one of them breaks I am not sure if I will 
upgrade for some time to come.
I know for a fact that several people on the network are retiring in 
the next 2 or so years and that will change slightly the use of  at 
least 1 of the computers.
I am not sure how much change that will mean as there will continue 
to be a lot of business stuff on there but point is, the funds I will 
have after the next 2 years or so will not really be that great.
I doubt for  instance that next time I upgrade it  will be because 
windows is out of support, more likely it will be because my laptop 
battery has exploded or something.
Thing is for the last 3-4 upgrades either I have needed it or the 
systems in question are broken or have not been upgraded for some time.

With one acception every user is happy with their level of power.
In short ms will need to really convince people to switch, I know for 
example that 7 is the last os that doesn't need a ms account to login.
10 now its the only way to use the system and I am sure that later 
oses will not have local account either.


At 01:15 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will
officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features
or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi josh sir!
 but what you will do after January?
 because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
 The company want to end the technical support.
 Thanks
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss
well I don't think they can just stop producing 7 just like that, all 
the boxes we have are on 7, and while there is a market for it pc 
manufacturers will still release drivers till at least support for 
updates ends.

thats not for another 5 years.
Even if ms stops drivver library support most drivers for ms are 
generic ones anyway.
As well as this because of the 8x disaster ms really needs to make 
sure that their new os works this time, right now it  looks ok but 
there is always a chance to wreck it later.
To be honest if xp didn't drop outside support I'd continue using it 
and now it appears they are trying to make vertuals with xp not work 
in 8 and up put it this way I have no desire to even think of upgrading.


At 07:24 p.m. 24/10/2014, you wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/23/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you are on a low income you can get laptops from newegg and from
 blaire technology group for between $200 and $300 and they are quite
 powerful and run windows7. some with windows8.1. but I've found more
 games run on win7 even today. I tried win8.1 and it froze and made my
 CPU keep running at 100% even on the desktop with nothing open. so last
 night I went back to windows7 professional. that's another thing if you
 want a long long support cycle with windows be sure to get the
 professional version never buy home versions.

 On 10/23/2014 5:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for
 them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to
 the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really
 feasible.

 Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source software
 such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating
 system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software for
 basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore
 the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a
 limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is
 willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative.

 Cheers!


 On 10/23/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't
 provided.

 I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you
 can't
 afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks,
 you're

 stuck.  If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem
 solved.

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[Audyssey] Mudding on OS X

2014-10-25 Thread Scott F.
Hi list,
This has probably come up before, but short of running a Windows
virtual machine, can anyone offer any viable alternatives for MUDding
on OS X?
Thanks for your input.

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local 
account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was quite good.

I have family that due to security and other things have a system 
with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.

win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms account, etc.

At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 6 
years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will
officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features
or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss

thanks jim for this.
I will file this away and try to play again.

At 01:30 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:

Hi Shaun,

To the west of the Pizza Kitchen are streets to the east are 
avenues.  The higher the number the further away from the Pizza 
Kitchen at first and center.  Then north of center are names of 
trees in alphabetical order and south are names of car manufacturers 
in alphabetical order.


Here is a list of the north and south streets, but remember that you 
start at center.


Willow
Walnut
Sycamore
Spruce
Redwood
Pine
Palm
Orange
Oak
Mesquite Maple
Mahogany
Holly
Evergreen
Eucalyptus.
Elm
Coconut
Cherry
Cedar
Buckeye
Birch
Apple
Center
Buick
Cadillac
Chevy
Chrysler
Corvette
Dodge
Ferrari
Ford
Honda
Jaguar
Lambergini
Lincoln
Mazda
Mercedes
Mercury
Oldsmobile
Plymouth
Pontiac
Porsche
Saturn
Toyota
Volkswagon

BFN

Jim

How do they get deer to cross the road only at those yellow road signs?

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss

well firstly upgrade your video card drivers.
I have had this happen on an old box last week.
You may need sight but in the first instance using a compresser or 
other blower blow the box or however you clear it a can or something 
my dad does it with his equipment so I don't know aparently there is a way.
anyway they get a lot of dust depending where they are and you may 
have a caked cpu and other stuff I have had a friend's box literlly 
bblow up on him and when we opened it up, the fan was so encrusted 
that it was completely jammed.
Anyway after you blow ou the dust from the box and put it together, 
replace or rather remove and regrees the heatsync and replace any 
noisy fans and then it will probably work again.

you may have a power issue to the supply may need replacing who knows.
you could also try updating your bios or reflashing it as that also 
helped a lot.
Finally with all drivers and stuff loaded check memmory and drives 
they can fail to.
but computers are cheap enough you can replace one, I usually replace 
a machine from between 4-8 years.


At 11:52 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:

I'm not sure, but my pc does reboot completely in the middle of the pizza
game.
Because I have set NVDA to start when windows starts so I hear the piano
sound letting me know n v d A has started so by that I know my pc has
rebooted by itself.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 24 October 2014 04:03 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

When your machine crashes, does the hard disk shut off and then turn on
again?

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From: Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:54 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

Hi all
Just to let you know, I have successfully returned to the pizza kitchen
after my delivery.
Its actually quite easy to remember: the pizza kitchen is between first
avenue and first street at centre.
But I continue to have the problem where my pc reboots in the middle of a
pizza game.
This is strange, I wonder what causes this?
I have a question: Does pizzas cost the same amount in the US as in the
pizza game?
For example, at one time I delivered a pizza costing  26 dollars.
Is that what a pizza really costs in the US?
Here in south africa most pizza places charges an equivalent of 8 dollars
for a pizza.
Bfn
Nicol


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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

I don't think Nicol's issue is hardware related. If so it would be
having this issue with other programs and games and he has made no
indication that is the case. Only that it is specific to Pizza
Delivery. So it is a safe bet the problem is a software conflict
rather than hardware related.



On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 well firstly upgrade your video card drivers.
 I have had this happen on an old box last week.
 You may need sight but in the first instance using a compresser or
 other blower blow the box or however you clear it a can or something
 my dad does it with his equipment so I don't know aparently there is a way.
 anyway they get a lot of dust depending where they are and you may
 have a caked cpu and other stuff I have had a friend's box literlly
 bblow up on him and when we opened it up, the fan was so encrusted
 that it was completely jammed.
 Anyway after you blow ou the dust from the box and put it together,
 replace or rather remove and regrees the heatsync and replace any
 noisy fans and then it will probably work again.
 you may have a power issue to the supply may need replacing who knows.
 you could also try updating your bios or reflashing it as that also
 helped a lot.
 Finally with all drivers and stuff loaded check memmory and drives
 they can fail to.
 but computers are cheap enough you can replace one, I usually replace
 a machine from between 4-8 years.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread shaun everiss

Well I once ate quite a large pizza once.
never again the toilet god was happy I wasn't.

At 01:46 p.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:

and a lot of indigestion if you ate all of it too!
At 05:59 AM 10/25/2014, you wrote:

Hi Charles,

Good grief! Those are some massive pizzas. Sounds practically big
enough to feed a dinosaur. LOL.

Actually I have seen them that big but have never ordered one myself.
A local restaurant called Fox's Pizza here has there deluxe party
pizza which I believe is about 30 inches in diameter. It  is generally
available for birthday parties and things like that. I have no idea
how much it costs since I have never had any reason to buy one that
big, but I do imagine it costs quite a bit more than their standard
large pizzas. I'd be surprised if it was anything less than $25.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 I know of such a place.  However, the pizza is 18 inches in diameter, and
 even if you do not order double toppings or cheese, it costs about $25.
 They really pile on the topping, though, and nothing is premade.

 Another place here charges $25 for their largest cheese pizza and each
 additional topping is $4.  Keep in mind, though, that this is a 30 inch
 pizza that is supposed to be for parties.  It is a rectangular shape, 24
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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Well, as the MS account is pretty much core to Microsoft's new
security policy as well as their services I definitely don't see that
going away. Its one of those things people will either learn to live
with or will have to go Mac or Linux instead.

As for the Start Menu I've read it is suppose to make a return in
Windows 10. As I understand it Windows 10 will have an option to
enable some sort of classic mode which is similar to Windows 7 with a
Start Menu or a Metro style interface similar to Windows 8. So that at
least isn't totally out of the question here.

As for their cloud accounts I don't see that going anywhere either. A
lot of commercial software is going to the online approach and I
foresee Microsoft doing something similar to google where you'll run
Microsoft Office and other apps online via the cloud and your desktop
or laptop will be for local files but the OS and applications will be
accessed via the cloud.

Don't believe me just look what Google has done with Chrome OS.
Basically, if you start up a Chromebook all you get is a web browser
that allows you to run gmail, Google drive, Google docs, etc and
nothing is accessed on your Chromebook. Its all in the cloud. I'm sure
Microsoft would be happy if they could do the same as they could
charge for subscriptions rather than pay for people to buy software
upgrades.



On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 who knows josh.
 personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
 1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local
 account hard to find or create.
 2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
 they won't do that.
 3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
 4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was quite
 good.

 I have family that due to security and other things have a system
 with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
 win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms account,
 etc.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Gross! That's so nasty. That's a bit more information than we needed to hear.



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 Well I once ate quite a large pizza once.
 never again the toilet god was happy I wasn't.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mudding on OS X

2014-10-25 Thread Harmony Neil
If you want something terminal based, you can use tintin++, but if you want 
something from the app store, the only one I’ve heard of is Mudder.  There are 
some soundpacks for tintin++, but the only mud I really play is alter aeon, so 
I know there are 2 soundpacks for that one.  Unfortunately I can’t remember the 
links, but I’ll find them if you like.
Mudder is a paid app, but sadly I can’t remember if it has any sounds.
Hope that helps,
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Re: [Audyssey] Mudding on OS X

2014-10-25 Thread Harmony Neil
Just adding to my last message: if you do go down the tintin++ route with the 
terminal, you’ll have an interesting time with voiceover.
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Nicol,

I am working on version 2 and have added the reminder about where the Pizza 
Kitchen is like you suggested.

Yes, one can find cheaper pizza, like from the big chains like Pizza Hut.  And 
Dominos is hot right now, building a bunch of new ones across the country.  But I 
like my Zeppies.  I am pretty sure that a Zeppies extra large, 12 cut, 18 inch, one 
topping, not on sale, pizza starts at $18.95, plus a dollar to deliver, and $3.00 per 
extra topping.  You know such as extra cheese, mushrooms, etc etc.  Zeppies pizzas 
have a thicker, fresh crust, great tasting sauce, and lots of fresh toppings.  So you 
know the Pizza Kitchen pizzas are more of the gourmet pizza, like Zeppies. 
grin  In my game The toppings are $2.50 on an extra large and $2.00 on a 
large.  And the tips are very generous as long as you get there on or before the time 
quoted to the customer.  But you know, I have never ordered a pizza with 6 toppings 
like in my game.

BFN

Jim

Our diet pizza is the same as our regular pizza except I sit down and eat it 
with you.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Milos,

The bad thing about getting pulled over by the police is that it takes time and 
thus the pizza gets to the customer later, and thus your tip is less.

It's the same sort of time penalty when waiting for a train, or the random 
delays.  You know like when a zombie is crossing the road, etc etc.

HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Lori,

Almost everywhere you can get away with 40 miles an hour, however there are a 
few stationary speed traps where the mean officer will pull you over for 
anything above the 35 mile an hour speed limit.  And there are three streets 
that the police do not ever patrol at all, so you can do any speed on those 
roads.  Well as fast as the particular vehicle will go anyway.

HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Phil,

Thank you very much for the list of car manufactures.  I do want the same 
number of trees as cars, and I do want people to be able to know which is which.

Thanks again.

BFN

- Original Message -
Hi Jim,
I like the game but by having only 22 car names, you're missing some 
interesting ones.

How about adding or rplacing some from this list of 45?
Acura
American
Audi
Avanti
BMW
Buick
Cadillac
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Citroën
Corvette
Dodge
Edsel
Ferrari
Fiat
Ford
GMC
Honda
Hummer
Infiniti
Jaguar
Jeep
Lambergini
Lexus
Lincoln
Mazda
Mercedes
Mercury
Mitsubishi
Oldsmobile
Opel
Plymouth
Pontiac
Porsche
Rambler
Renault
Rolls-Royce
Saab
Saturn
Studebaker
Stutz Bearcat
Tesla
Toyota
Volkswagon
Volvo

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Pizza Delivery

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Bryan,

Interesting, the HJ Pad spell checker likes either Volkswagon or Volkswagen.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza game

2014-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Josh,

I do believe that Austin said that it was his anti virus program that was 
causing the problem with the winkit setup install.

HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] {Disarmed} Fw: A new 3D audio game from the Papa Sangre studio

2014-10-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oh, boy, one of my favorite developers doing one of my favorite types of games. 
Can't wait.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

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Re: [Audyssey] Mudding on OS X

2014-10-25 Thread Scott F.
Hi,
Is there a pre-compiled binary available?  I assume by interesting
time you are referring to the interrupt issue with VoiceOver.  I
could probably work around that.  Since TinTin++ is free, it's worth a
shot.
Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] {Disarmed} Fw: A new 3D audio game from the Papa Sangre studio

2014-10-25 Thread Scott F.
Yes, I very much enjoyed Papa Sangre II; its sounds were absolutely
out of this world.  I'm sure that this game will bring more of the
same.
Can't wait!

On 10/25/14, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh, boy, one of my favorite developers doing one of my favorite types of
 games. Can't wait.

 Teresa

 Winging its way from my iPod

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 8:26 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 A new 3D audio game from the Papa Sangre studioThought people should know
 about this one.

 Oh, and Dr. bastard?  awsome!
 - Original Message -
 From: Dr Bastard and his merry band of developers
 To: d...@xgam.org
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:09 PM
 Subject: A new 3D audio game from the Papa Sangre studio


The follow up game to Papa Sangre II is
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View this email in your browser









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 to Papa Sangre II is coming very soon. We mean very soon.

If Papa Sangre II was a gourmet meal, then
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 outside. It’s a zombie shooter. You play a blind warrior who can’t see the
 approaching waves of zombies. You can only hear them and shoot them, and
 as you know, with binaural audio, they will swarm ALL AROUND YOU.

We've boiled down the gameplay so all you
 have to do is turn and shoot. You can use the gyro for maximum immersion.
All the zombies are the master creations of
 the evil Dr Bastard, who takes pleasure in your gruesome death. There is a
 badass range of special Zombies and weapons - Chainsaw Zombies will give
 you a really close binaural haircut, Farty Zombies explodes in a towering
 inferno of noise and gore. You start with little popgun pistol and
 eventually graduate to the sonic cannon. There are missions, challenges
 and in game currency, Game Center support - everything you'd expect. Our
 developers really have had fun making this.







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[Audyssey] Alter Aeon 2014 Halloween Havoc

2014-10-25 Thread Dennis Towne
Our annual Halloween Havoc is just around the corner! Festivities kick
off in six days, on the morning of Friday, October 31.  We've got lots
of stuff lined up this year, including the traditional pumpkin cannon
contests, pk arena battles, and a new level 16 area for the island of
Kordan.

We're also planning some special pk arena contests that allow players
of any level to compete against each other, regardless of experience
or skill level.  If you've wanted to try out high level spells and
skills that your main character doesn't have, you'll be able to do so
in these events.

Lastly, our main event quest is scheduled to unfold over the course of
the weekend, starting on Friday and finishing on Sunday.  We're
expecting Pumpkinhead to send lots of ghosts and otherworldly spirits,
and players of all levels will be needed to defend the towns. To get
involved and see the daily events, use the in-game 'show event'
command.

We hope to see you there!

Dennis Towne

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k
I don't or i should say I did not like windows8.1 at all when I had it 
on this computer, because it would not run my windows xp virtual machine 
at all. it ran but audio was slow and it was buggy as ever. audio was so 
choppy it was completely unuseable. so I went back to windows7. now 
everything works better. microsoft better listen to their customers or 
I'll switch over to ubuntu linux and run windows xp in a vm on there.


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well I don't think they can just stop producing 7 just like that, all 
the boxes we have are on 7, and while there is a market for it pc 
manufacturers will still release drivers till at least support for 
updates ends.

thats not for another 5 years.
Even if ms stops drivver library support most drivers for ms are 
generic ones anyway.
As well as this because of the 8x disaster ms really needs to make 
sure that their new os works this time, right now it  looks ok but 
there is always a chance to wreck it later.
To be honest if xp didn't drop outside support I'd continue using it 
and now it appears they are trying to make vertuals with xp not work 
in 8 and up put it this way I have no desire to even think of upgrading.


At 07:24 p.m. 24/10/2014, you wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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 if you are on a low income you can get laptops from newegg and from
 blaire technology group for between $200 and $300 and they are quite
 powerful and run windows7. some with windows8.1. but I've found more
 games run on win7 even today. I tried win8.1 and it froze and made my
 CPU keep running at 100% even on the desktop with nothing open. so 
last
 night I went back to windows7 professional. that's another thing if 
you

 want a long long support cycle with windows be sure to get the
 professional version never buy home versions.

 On 10/23/2014 5:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for
 them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to
 the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really
 feasible.

 Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source 
software

 such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating
 system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software 
for

 basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore
 the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a
 limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is
 willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative.

 Cheers!


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 The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't
 provided.

 I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you
 can't
 afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks,
 you're

 stuck.  If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, 
problem

 solved.

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k
I like having my local account! if I were an IT manager and if I were 
running a company I would not save stuff in the cloud I would want it 
where I know I could get at it. backups in the cloud? maybe if they were 
super secure. primary employee stuff would be local. and if I ran a 
company an ms kept messing up my company would switch over to ubuntu. 
Ubuntu is in the top 10 linux distributions on distrowatch.com .



On 10/25/2014 3:06 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
Well hopefully from a tech standpoint I won't have to upgrade at least 
2 of the units here for at least another 5 or 6 years.
And to be honest unless one of them breaks I am not sure if I will 
upgrade for some time to come.
I know for a fact that several people on the network are retiring in 
the next 2 or so years and that will change slightly the use of  at 
least 1 of the computers.
I am not sure how much change that will mean as there will continue to 
be a lot of business stuff on there but point is, the funds I will 
have after the next 2 years or so will not really be that great.
I doubt for  instance that next time I upgrade it  will be because 
windows is out of support, more likely it will be because my laptop 
battery has exploded or something.
Thing is for the last 3-4 upgrades either I have needed it or the 
systems in question are broken or have not been upgraded for some time.

With one acception every user is happy with their level of power.
In short ms will need to really convince people to switch, I know for 
example that 7 is the last os that doesn't need a ms account to login.
10 now its the only way to use the system and I am sure that later 
oses will not have local account either.


At 01:15 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will
officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features
or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


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 Hi josh sir!
 but what you will do after January?
 because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
 The company want to end the technical support.
 Thanks
 Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k

should say I'll switch over to ubuntu gnome version of linux.

On 10/25/2014 2:58 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
well I don't think they can just stop producing 7 just like that, all 
the boxes we have are on 7, and while there is a market for it pc 
manufacturers will still release drivers till at least support for 
updates ends.

thats not for another 5 years.
Even if ms stops drivver library support most drivers for ms are 
generic ones anyway.
As well as this because of the 8x disaster ms really needs to make 
sure that their new os works this time, right now it  looks ok but 
there is always a chance to wreck it later.
To be honest if xp didn't drop outside support I'd continue using it 
and now it appears they are trying to make vertuals with xp not work 
in 8 and up put it this way I have no desire to even think of upgrading.


At 07:24 p.m. 24/10/2014, you wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/23/14, Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you are on a low income you can get laptops from newegg and from
 blaire technology group for between $200 and $300 and they are quite
 powerful and run windows7. some with windows8.1. but I've found more
 games run on win7 even today. I tried win8.1 and it froze and made my
 CPU keep running at 100% even on the desktop with nothing open. so 
last
 night I went back to windows7 professional. that's another thing if 
you

 want a long long support cycle with windows be sure to get the
 professional version never buy home versions.

 On 10/23/2014 5:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
 Hi Charles,

 True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for
 them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to
 the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really
 feasible.

 Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source 
software

 such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating
 system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software 
for

 basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore
 the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a
 limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is
 willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative.

 Cheers!


 On 10/23/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
 The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't
 provided.

 I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you
 can't
 afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks,
 you're

 stuck.  If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, 
problem

 solved.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k

maybe you have a virus or are getting updates?

On 10/24/2014 7:01 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote:

That's certainly strange.



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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

I'm not sure, but my pc does reboot completely in the middle of the pizza
game.
Because I have set NVDA to start when windows starts so I hear the piano
sound letting me know n v d A has started so by that I know my pc has
rebooted by itself.

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 24 October 2014 04:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

When your machine crashes, does the hard disk shut off and then turn on
again?

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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 8:54 AM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] jim's pizza delivery game

Hi all
Just to let you know, I have successfully returned to the pizza kitchen
after my delivery.
Its actually quite easy to remember: the pizza kitchen is between first
avenue and first street at centre.
But I continue to have the problem where my pc reboots in the middle of a
pizza game.
This is strange, I wonder what causes this?
I have a question: Does pizzas cost the same amount in the US as in the
pizza game?
For example, at one time I delivered a pizza costing  26 dollars.
Is that what a pizza really costs in the US?
Here in south africa most pizza places charges an equivalent of 8 dollars
for a pizza.
Bfn
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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k
and if your internet goes out or down, oh well you no longer have access 
to your software.


On 10/25/2014 9:18 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Well, as the MS account is pretty much core to Microsoft's new
security policy as well as their services I definitely don't see that
going away. Its one of those things people will either learn to live
with or will have to go Mac or Linux instead.

As for the Start Menu I've read it is suppose to make a return in
Windows 10. As I understand it Windows 10 will have an option to
enable some sort of classic mode which is similar to Windows 7 with a
Start Menu or a Metro style interface similar to Windows 8. So that at
least isn't totally out of the question here.

As for their cloud accounts I don't see that going anywhere either. A
lot of commercial software is going to the online approach and I
foresee Microsoft doing something similar to google where you'll run
Microsoft Office and other apps online via the cloud and your desktop
or laptop will be for local files but the OS and applications will be
accessed via the cloud.

Don't believe me just look what Google has done with Chrome OS.
Basically, if you start up a Chromebook all you get is a web browser
that allows you to run gmail, Google drive, Google docs, etc and
nothing is accessed on your Chromebook. Its all in the cloud. I'm sure
Microsoft would be happy if they could do the same as they could
charge for subscriptions rather than pay for people to buy software
upgrades.



On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local
account hard to find or create.
2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was quite
good.

I have family that due to security and other things have a system
with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms account,
etc.

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k
ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all 
developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu gnome 
or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. and if I 
want to run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a vm on the 
ubuntu host until everything is all switched over.


On 10/25/2014 3:09 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local 
account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was 
quite good.


I have family that due to security and other things have a system with 
offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms 
account, etc.


At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 6 
years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will
officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features
or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous Topic ofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k
and do you really think businesses are gunna want to use microsoft 
accounts for everything? I would not.


On 10/25/2014 9:18 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Shaun,

Well, as the MS account is pretty much core to Microsoft's new
security policy as well as their services I definitely don't see that
going away. Its one of those things people will either learn to live
with or will have to go Mac or Linux instead.

As for the Start Menu I've read it is suppose to make a return in
Windows 10. As I understand it Windows 10 will have an option to
enable some sort of classic mode which is similar to Windows 7 with a
Start Menu or a Metro style interface similar to Windows 8. So that at
least isn't totally out of the question here.

As for their cloud accounts I don't see that going anywhere either. A
lot of commercial software is going to the online approach and I
foresee Microsoft doing something similar to google where you'll run
Microsoft Office and other apps online via the cloud and your desktop
or laptop will be for local files but the OS and applications will be
accessed via the cloud.

Don't believe me just look what Google has done with Chrome OS.
Basically, if you start up a Chromebook all you get is a web browser
that allows you to run gmail, Google drive, Google docs, etc and
nothing is accessed on your Chromebook. Its all in the cloud. I'm sure
Microsoft would be happy if they could do the same as they could
charge for subscriptions rather than pay for people to buy software
upgrades.



On 10/25/14, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local
account hard to find or create.
2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was quite
good.

I have family that due to security and other things have a system
with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms account,
etc.

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Re: [Audyssey] {Disarmed} Fw: A new 3D audio game from the PapaSangre studio

2014-10-25 Thread dark
I am looking forward to it myself, though I'm a little concerned at the 
move and shoot mechanic that we're essentially getting a more advanced 
version of sixth sense sinse I don't like the idea of this being another 
purely reaction based audiogame like most arcade titles we've seen,   
though it is possible that a  simple game idea has more complex mechanics 
(it worked in blind swordsman)


I'm still looking forward to it, especially hearing Dr. Bastard!

Beware the grue!

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[Audyssey] mush-z problem

2014-10-25 Thread Matteo Hapta

hi,
does anyone have the plugin tts_jwf for mush-z? it hasn't the plug in 
installed and i dont know where to get it.

Thanks,
Matteo

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Re: [Audyssey] mush-z problem

2014-10-25 Thread Dennis Towne
Is that maybe part of the jfwapi-installer.exe that's in the jfw/
directory?  I'll ask around and on the game and see what I can figure
out as well.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

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 does anyone have the plugin tts_jwf for mush-z? it hasn't the plug in
 installed and i dont know where to get it.
 Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] mush-z problem

2014-10-25 Thread Dennis Towne
There's a different plugin, lua_jfw, that should be there in the main
mush directory.  That's apparently what most jaws people use, and it
supposedly fixes the jaws 16 issues.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com


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 does anyone have the plugin tts_jwf for mush-z? it hasn't the plug in
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Re: [Audyssey] {Disarmed} Fw: A new 3D audio game from the PapaSangre studio

2014-10-25 Thread Scott F.
I think I read somewhere that it was (supposed to be) similar to the
ducks level of Papa Sangre II, you know, where you need to shoot the
ducks.  I didn't find it particularly challenging, though with the 3D
sound and a higher difficulty, it might be a lot of fun!

On 10/25/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 I am looking forward to it myself, though I'm a little concerned at the
 move and shoot mechanic that we're essentially getting a more advanced
 version of sixth sense sinse I don't like the idea of this being another
 purely reaction based audiogame like most arcade titles we've seen, 
 though it is possible that a  simple game idea has more complex mechanics
 (it worked in blind swordsman)

 I'm still looking forward to it, especially hearing Dr. Bastard!

 Beware the grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Mudding on OS X

2014-10-25 Thread Harmony Neil
yep.  I’d say give it a go and see how you like it.
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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread john

A giant part of gnome is inaccessible... just saying.
Also, it's the desktop, not orca, that's got the problem, so its nothing 
improved orca could do.


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ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all 
developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu gnome or 
a better orca and more voices available in its app store. and if I want to 
run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a vm on the ubuntu host 
until everything is all switched over.


On 10/25/2014 3:09 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local 
account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was quite 
good.


I have family that due to security and other things have a system with 
offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms account, 
etc.


At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 6 
years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft will
officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated features
or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


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Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k

what part of gnome is not accessible?

On 10/25/2014 6:22 PM, john wrote:

A giant part of gnome is inaccessible... just saying.
Also, it's the desktop, not orca, that's got the problem, so its 
nothing improved orca could do.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous 
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ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all 
developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu 
gnome or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. 
and if I want to run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a vm 
on the ubuntu host until everything is all switched over.


On 10/25/2014 3:09 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local 
account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was 
quite good.


I have family that due to security and other things have a system 
with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms 
account, etc.


At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 6 
years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with 
windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft 
will

officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated 
features

or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread john
The entirety of the start menu, for starters. Never mind the settings 
panel and a host of other things that only half way work.


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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 7:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous 
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what part of gnome is not accessible?

On 10/25/2014 6:22 PM, john wrote:

A giant part of gnome is inaccessible... just saying.
Also, it's the desktop, not orca, that's got the problem, so its nothing 
improved orca could do.


--
From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous 
TopicofInteractiveFiction


ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all 
developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu gnome 
or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. and if I 
want to run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a vm on the 
ubuntu host until everything is all switched over.


On 10/25/2014 3:09 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making local 
account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was 
quite good.


I have family that due to security and other things have a system with 
offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms 
account, etc.


At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 6 
years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with 
windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 Microsoft 
will

officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over to an
extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated 
features

or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to that.

In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous TopicofInteractiveFiction

2014-10-25 Thread Josh k

hmmm, last time I used gnome-shell it worked just fine for me.

On 10/25/2014 9:27 PM, john wrote:
The entirety of the start menu, for starters. Never mind the 
settings panel and a host of other things that only half way work.


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous 
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what part of gnome is not accessible?

On 10/25/2014 6:22 PM, john wrote:

A giant part of gnome is inaccessible... just saying.
Also, it's the desktop, not orca, that's got the problem, so its 
nothing improved orca could do.


--
From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Throwaway Tech was Previous 
TopicofInteractiveFiction


ok then if ms won't do those things then I hope everybody and all 
developers will start switching to ubuntu gnome. NVDA for ubuntu 
gnome or a better orca and more voices available in its app store. 
and if I want to run windows I'll run windows xp or windows7 in a 
vm on the ubuntu host until everything is all switched over.


On 10/25/2014 3:09 AM, shaun everiss wrote:

who knows josh.
personally ms will have to do several things which they won't do.
1.  scrap the ms account as a must when logging in and making 
local account hard to find or create.

2.  bring back the start menu in 7 without any extras or even xp.
they won't do that.
3.  forget about their cloud account as extras,.
4.  bring back the xp interface ie8 etc which for an interface was 
quite good.


I have family that due to security and other things have a system 
with offline on everything they don't even use the net with it.
win8 is what is used  but most of that is online cloud stuff ms 
account, etc.


At 01:37 a.m. 25/10/2014, you wrote:
yes I wonder what the new mainstream business OS will be in 5 or 
6 years? maybe windows10? right now businesses are staying with 
windows7.


On 10/24/2014 8:15 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello Ishan,

There will still be updates for Windows 7 available past January 13
2015. What you are confused about is on January 13 2015 
Microsoft will

officially end mainstream technical support for Windows 7, but that
does not mean there won't be any updates available for the OS. 
All it
really means is that Microsoft will be switching Windows 7 over 
to an

extended support policy which will end in January 2020. As such
Microsoft will continue to offer critical updates such as security
patches and updated drivers, but will not be offering updated 
features

or applications for the OS. So in short Josh or anyone else who
chooses to stay with Windows 7 should be  fine until 2020 when
Microsoft will pull the plug on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008.

As that is five years of extended support that should be plenty of
time for people to decide to either upgrade to Windows 8.1 or
alternatively to Windows 10. Both of which should have any bugs and
support issues worked out by that time. Who knows something better
might be available by then  and people will want to upgrade to 
that.


In any case there isn't any need to worry or panic about Windows 7
support being dropped in January. Only mainstream general technical
support is ending. Security updates, driver updates, and any other
critical updates will still be provided until 2020.

Cheers!


On 10/24/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

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