Re: [Audyssey] perspective was; Re: first person adventure games.
Hi Dark, Good point. The movement is very important in defining what is first-person verses side-scroller etc so I do take your point below in terms of audio games. Obviously, in a graphical game there is a huge difference between first-person and third-person perspective. In first-person games like Doom, for example, all you see is a hand with perhaps a gun in it as you would if you were actually present. In third-person games you actually get to see the character on screen as well as other aspects of the current area from a third-person perspective. It is difficult to define such a difference from the perspective of audio only so therefore some other aspect like movement needs to form the basis of what we mean by first-person. Cheers! On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. While I take your point about first person perspectives, and in fairness in my e-mail to Ishen I was slightly using short hand, at the same time I do think first person is a tad harder to define in audio without talking in terms of movement. An audio side scroller like superliam for example in one sense does have a first person perspective, sinse your viewpoint (hearing point? audiopoint?), is from the central location of the character. You hear what is ahead of them in the direction of travel, left or right, and what is behind them in the other direction, and what you hear changes according to their position relative to the enemies. Imagine you were making your way sideways along a wall with sound sources ahead and behind you and how they would rise and fade relative to your 1D movement towards or away and you'll see what I mean. In a graphical side scroller like marrio brothers, you see a great many things that your character would not from his/her current location. For example, in the first level of Marrio when you come up to a pipe, you see Marrio's position to the left, but also you can see the top of the pipe and what is on the other side of it. That is not true of an audio side scroller, though interestingly enough it can be true of games where you can run in four directions, up down left and right such as airic the clerric, sinse you can there often here stuff that is in game terms quite a distance from your character, or behind walls etc. This is why i always tend to think first person in audio needs the clarrification of the movement in addition to just mentioning the perspective as well. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and th ere are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Dark, Fair enough. Although in my humble opinion first-person shooter and first-person adventure game are synonymous with each other. A shooter is more combat oriented where adventures are perhaps mostly puzzle oriented, but both are first-person in perspective and style of game play. Thus why I listed Shades of Doom. Cheers! On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Tom. I'd totally agree that the first person perspective is common to both and whether something is an adventure or not depends upon what the character does, indeed the chief reason I created the first person adventure genre is that I looked around and saw a huge number of games that had a first person perspective, but played far slower than most shooters and were based on puzzles, environmental adaptations or atmosphere such as pappasangre and blindside on Ios or Sarah and terraformers on pc, hence why I thought a new genre category was needed. Beware the grue! Dark --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mist games (was first person adventure games)
Mist? lol! I played those with my ex-wife and a friend of ours. I remember there were times when it was tricky to get set up right to pick up things, though my memory might be faulty in this regard. The real thing that made Mist very impressive was that the puzzles were very difficult and different from most adventure style games. There was one that was sort of like Simon where you had to arrange musical tones to open a secret door iirc. There were also some fiendishly devilish word puzzles. One for instance used a short sentence where the only vowel in the entire sentence was y. It made guessing it extremely difficult I only played the first game, that intermittently, and very late at night, so I apologize for not being able to give more details. At the same time we were playing Mist, my friend was playing World of Warcraft and Betrayal at Crondor, so it's quite possible Im mixing things up. I remember the Crondor game had these puzzle locks where you'd have to solve a riddle and flip the lock tumblers to the proper letters to solve it. I always liked that mechanic as well. Take care, Jeremy -- In the fight between you and the world--back the world! Frank Zapa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Cara, An interesting question. Myself I more or less assumed a first-person shooter and a first-person adventure game were one and the same thing with the only difference being that a shooter is more combat oriented where an adventure game more puzzle oriented. By my definition a first-person game would allow the player to move 360 degrees, or the cardinal directions of north, south, east, and west at the least. I will confess I am not familiar with the Mist series of games you speak of so can only formulate an opinion based on what you said below. In my opinion they would not fit the definition of first-person in my point of view, but that is only because I can not in fairness compare the games firsthand to my definition and concept of first-person. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Interesting points. I wonder if the 360 degree view is really a requirement for a first person adventure then. Many of the Myst series of adventure games are definitely first person perspective but do not have 360 degree rotation / view in the game. I.E. You may turn right or left and then a different still image will be shown. So the degree of rotation really depends on what scenes are available from any particular vantage point in the game. There is certainly not anywhere near a 360 degree view though, even when many scenes are available. As you may know, the Myst series of games are most definitely adventure type games rather than shooters as there is actually no combat at all in them, in favor of exploration / puzzle-solving / mystery solving. I personally equate a 360 degree view with first person shooters rather than adventure games. So is 360 degree view really a requirement for a first person adventure? Great topic! :) Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 1, 2015, at 10:51 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I'd disagree that Shades of doom is a first person adventure, on audiogames.net it's classified as a first person shooter on the basis of the high amount of fast action sequences, sinse though you do have puzzles and mazelike levels, there are lots and lots of monsters after you and an arsonal of weapons to defeat them with. adventure games I always assume have less of an action focus and are more about the puzzles, the exploring etc. Indeed, this is why I decided to classify terraformers as a first person adventure, sinse though you do have a gun and shoot a couple of robots, you spend more of your time solving puzzles and the entire game plays more slowly. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi Ishan, There aren't many but there are a few first-person adventures that are accessible. The first is Monkey Business by Draconis Entertainment. The second is Shades of Doom by GMA Games. The third is Sarah by PCS Games. There is Swamp by Jeremy Kaldobsky. Finally there is Teraformers. Those are the main examples of accessible first-person games that come readily to mind. Cheers! On 5/1/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am asking that if some first person adventure games are available for us. I know slender lost vision which I am not playing. only descent into madness which I played. Please if someone have some sort of knowledge about this topic then please reply. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send
[Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's Monopoly Game
Does anyone know if you are able to change the speech engine in Jim Kitchen's Monopoly game? I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] playing Trivia Crack on a PC?
Hi, Can you play Trivia Crack on a PC? If so, where does one download it from and is it accessible? thanks, Dacia --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Jim Kitchen's Monopoly Game
Hi, If you mean which Sapi voice is used. Yes, you can. If you mean actually change the type of voice output used such as Sapi, a certain screen reader, etc the answer is no. Cheers! On 5/2/15, King Meade kingme...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone know if you are able to change the speech engine in Jim Kitchen's Monopoly game? I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
