[Audyssey] pcsgames site

[Shaun Everiss]

Hi.
hmmm phill just went to pcsgames.net, its up fully or seems to be.

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Re: [Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

[Stancil Tootle]

What do I need to make them accessible? I use JAWS.

On Mar 13, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Paul Lemm  wrote:

   Thanks Tobias, I'll go check it out


Paul 


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Vinteus
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

Hi,
The FF themed mud is called The unofficial Squaresoft Mud. The homepage 
can be found at:
uossmud.sandwich.net

I found this mud through the Mudconnector:
www.mudconnect.com

hth,
Tobias


> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Paul Lemm wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Someone mentioned on this list the other day  about a final fantasy style
> mud that was accessible , but never mentioned the game of the  mud and I
> can't find the email or remember who sent the message. So is anyone aware
of
> any final fantasy style muds that are accessible? If so  what muds are
they?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

[Paul Lemm]

Thanks Tobias, I'll go check it out


Paul 


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Tobias
Vinteus
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:08 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

Hi,
The FF themed mud is called The unofficial Squaresoft Mud. The homepage 
can be found at:
uossmud.sandwich.net

I found this mud through the Mudconnector:
www.mudconnect.com

hth,
Tobias


On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Paul Lemm wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Someone mentioned on this list the other day  about a final fantasy style
> mud that was accessible , but never mentioned the game of the  mud and I
> can't find the email or remember who sent the message. So is anyone aware
of
> any final fantasy style muds that are accessible? If so  what muds are
they?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

[Tobias Vinteus]

Hi,
The FF themed mud is called The unofficial Squaresoft Mud. The homepage 
can be found at:

uossmud.sandwich.net

I found this mud through the Mudconnector:
www.mudconnect.com

hth,
Tobias


On Sun, 13 Mar 2016, Paul Lemm wrote:


Hi,



Someone mentioned on this list the other day  about a final fantasy style
mud that was accessible , but never mentioned the game of the  mud and I
can't find the email or remember who sent the message. So is anyone aware of
any final fantasy style muds that are accessible? If so  what muds are they?



Paul



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[Audyssey] final fantasy style Mud

[Paul Lemm]

Hi,

 

Someone mentioned on this list the other day  about a final fantasy style
mud that was accessible , but never mentioned the game of the  mud and I
can't find the email or remember who sent the message. So is anyone aware of
any final fantasy style muds that are accessible? If so  what muds are they?

 

Paul 

 

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[Audyssey] Fwd: PCS Games new site under construction

[Shane Davidson]

on behalf of Phil
Shane


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:PCS Games new site under construction
Date:   Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:42:45 -0400
From:   Phil Vlasak 
To: Shane Davidson 



Shane,
I got my new web site and am updating the pages.
I tried to send this notice to the audyssey list but it bounced.
PCS Games new site under construction
PCS Games has moved to,
PCS-Games.net
Yes I added a hyphen to the name for the time being.
I have updated the Windows and iOS games pages and my PCS games downloads
page only.
In the next week I plan to update all the other pages.
Here is the link:
http://www.pcs-games.net/
You can contact me via email,
phi...@bex.net






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Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

[Shaun Everiss]

well while not exactly there is a company making audiobooks for the 
blind out of new zealand I have done some work for and they want some 
stuff answered they are interested in doing a choose your own adventure 
type gamebook similar to the i devices would be a multiplatform thing 
and all in xml.

send  for more details at
je...@sonnar.nz
And say I gave you their contact, its a new company and they want groups 
of interest.
While I can't exactly say much I have played one of their arcade game 
packs due to come out soon and have played one of their early prototypes 
of an audiobook.
Sadly the rpg audiobook based on last crusade is incomplete and is 10 
years old.

In fact it was only by chance I got it reactivated.
Its got a long way to go and still is quite unstable but if you want to 
write a game maybe I'd wait for these guys to get things sorted.

Their site does not have anything to show for it right now though.



On 7/03/2016 1:50 a.m., Paul Lemm wrote:

Hi,

I'd love to see something like this become available , as it would allow
even people with no real programing  knowledge to create their own RPG
games.  Hopefully if entombed 2  has the dungeon creator it will be a small
step towards people being able to make their own games.



-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 12:14 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

What I think would be awesome is a blindy version of the Aurora
Toolset that was released with the original Never Winter Nights
computer game (God, was that really released, when? 2001? 2002?).
Never Winter Nights, for those of you who do not know, was a computer
role-playing game released by Bioware that used the 3rd edition
Dungeons and Dragons rules. The single-player campaign was rather
dull, actually, but it was meant more to be a sort of showcase for
what the user could do. Bioware released identical development tools
for the customer to create their own Dungeons and Dragons
adventures/campaigns. The beauty of Aurora (that was the name of both
the game engine and the toolset) was its ease of use. To this day, I
think that is the most user-friendly development kit I have ever seen
for a computer game.



On 3/5/16, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

I agree. I'd love to see more audio RPG's. I have a certain degree of
creativity but the programming knowledge not so much.



Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
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From: Paul Lemm
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:16 AM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

Hi Justin,

Yes bgt is designed for people to make audio games or programs so works
perfectly with jaws.  I agree totally with you about the lack of RPG

games,

before I lost my sight I was a huge Final fantasy fan, the last one I got
to
play before I lost my sight was final fantasy 10, it's such a shame these
games aren't more accessible as I'd love to play them again or some of the
new ones.  Although it is for this reason I started to learn BGT as I
wanted
to write my own RPG, and through learning BGT have started to build my own
little RPG, it's only a couple of levels at the moment and I don't think

it

will ever be some amazing audio game (but that's more down to my lack of
imagination when it comes to building storylines, but hoping I can get a
friend who writes to help out on that front), but it shows it can be done
and all with no previous programming knowledge and just using BGT, but I
think with enough determination and imagination it can be done. As for the
character  sheets you are talking about I've never done actual role play

/D

and  D so not really too sure exactly what these are or what they would
contain,  so not 100% sure if  you could build what you wanted with BGT ,
but I don't see why not. There is a BGT forum which has some really

helpful

people all with a lot more experience than me in programming with BGT, if
you say what you're trying to build with the character sheets I'm sure
people would let you know if it's achievable. BGT is free to download

too,

, I recommend  downloading  it and taking a look, then reading the help
manual  it's got a tutorial section which has an introduction  page, then

a

page  on learning the language   which is explained really really well

and

then some example games  you can write

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Justin

Jones

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:09 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Getting into programming

Does BGT play well with JAWS? If so, how much is involved in making it
play well? Finally, is BGT only for game development?

I figured that I had better start with a more reasonable goal, i.e.
trying to learn enough on how to code to try and write a character
sheet creator. If I can learn the knack of 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[lenron brown]

It's really sad when something like this happens. Lori I am sorry a so
called friend decided not to talk to you because of this, because this
is not your fault.

On 3/12/16, dark  wrote:
> Salute, salute!
>
> Sy Dark (and indeed Lady Sy dark), approve your knolidge of custome despite
>
> the fact that the world has moved on.
>
> Hile gunslinger.
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Devin Prater" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>
>
>> Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't
>>
>> yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino 
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
>>> sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
>>> was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
>>> Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
>>> consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
>>> being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
>>> hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
>>> friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
>>> of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
>>> good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
>>> topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
>>> Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
>>> officially mad, now.
>>>
 On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
 Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
 forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
 about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like
 walter

 and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the
 bullie's

 side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of
 that

 school and was much happier back home.

 From Lori.

 -Original Message-
 From: Devin Prater
 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

 I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you
 though.
 But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole
 community,
 know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
 something worse in the future.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
> wrote:
>
> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
> reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can
> only
>
> hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.
>
> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>
> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like
> Clok
>
> to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all,
>>
>> in
>>
>> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
>> sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough
>> evidence
>> against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have
>> done
>> the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still
>>
>> his
>>
>> friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good,
>> then
>>
>> put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are
>> so
>> imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.
>>
>> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark
>> who
>> are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a
>> lot,
>>
>> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.
>>
>> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
>> mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player
>> base
>>
>> growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been
>> about
>> this whole thing.
>> From Lori.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Paul Lemm]

As you already know Lorie, totally behind you on all this, just sorry you're
having to go through  it all at the moment. Things will get better, and nope
nothing wrong with taking out a little rage on the odd zombie or  two!
Hahaha. As ever , if you ever need to speak  I'm always here.. stay strong,
as I said things will get better.


-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of loriduncan
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:41 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Lol what does that even mean, I've never heard that expression before. 
Thanks though for being on my side.  :)

-Original Message- 
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't 
yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino  
> wrote:
>
> Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
> sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
> was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
> Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
> consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
> being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
> hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
> friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
> of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
> good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
> topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
> Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
> officially mad, now.
>
>> On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
>> Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
>> forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
>> about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like 
>> walter
>>
>> and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the 
>> bullie's
>>
>> side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of 
>> that
>>
>> school and was much happier back home.
>>
>> From Lori.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Devin Prater
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>>
>> I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you 
>> though.
>> But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community,
>> know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
>> something worse in the future.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
>>> reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can 
>>> only
>>>
>>> hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
>>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
>>>
>>> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like 
>>> Clok
>>>
>>> to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
 wrote:

 Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, 
 in

 fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
 sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough evidence
 against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done
 the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still 
 his

 friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, 
 then

 put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so
 imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.

 Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who
 are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a 
 lot,

 especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.

 I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
 mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player 
 base

 growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about
 this whole thing.
 From Lori.

 -Original Message- From: Allison Passino
 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM
 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[dark]

Hi Lori.

It's an expression from the dark tower series by steven king.
The gunslingers in that series, who are sort of like knights with a code of 
honour (only they use guns like cowboys from a western), say of someone when 
they have done something very scummy and dishonourable that he or she has 
"forgotten the face of his/her father"


Which seems correct in this case :D.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "loriduncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.


Lol what does that even mean, I've never heard that expression before. 
Thanks though for being on my side.  :)


-Original Message- 
From: Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't 
yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino  
wrote:


Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
officially mad, now.


On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like 
walter


and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the 
bullie's


side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of 
that


school and was much happier back home.

From Lori.

-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you 
though.
But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole 
community,

know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
something worse in the future.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can 
only


hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.

-Original Message- From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like 
Clok


to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, 
in


fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough evidence
against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done
the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still 
his


friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, 
then


put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are 
so

imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.

Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who
are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a 
lot,


especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.

I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player 
base


growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about
this whole thing.
From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Allison Passino
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility
and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a
misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Devin Prater]

Thankee, sys.
I assume you read the series in print? I only have audio versions, so I wasn't 
sure how to spell most of the words.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:18 PM, dark  wrote:
> 
> Salute, salute!
> 
> Sy Dark (and indeed Lady Sy dark), approve your knolidge of custome despite 
> the fact that the world has moved on.
> 
> Hile gunslinger.
> 
> Dark.
> - Original Message - From: "Devin Prater" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
> 
> 
>> Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't 
>> yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
>>> sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
>>> was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
>>> Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
>>> consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
>>> being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
>>> hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
>>> friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
>>> of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
>>> good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
>>> topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
>>> Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
>>> officially mad, now.
>>> 
 On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
 Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
 forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
 about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like walter
 
 and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the 
 bullie's
 
 side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of that
 
 school and was much happier back home.
 
 From Lori.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Devin Prater
 Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
 
 I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you though.
 But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community,
 know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
 something worse in the future.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
> wrote:
> 
> I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
> reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can only
> 
> hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.
> 
> Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like Clok
> 
> to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, in
>> 
>> fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
>> sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough evidence
>> against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done
>> the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still his
>> 
>> friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, then
>> 
>> put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so
>> imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.
>> 
>> Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who
>> are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a lot,
>> 
>> especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.
>> 
>> I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
>> mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player base
>> 
>> growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about
>> this whole thing.
>> From Lori.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Allison Passino
>> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Bryan Peterson]

It's  from Stephen King's Dark Tower books. When a character behaves badly 
or foolishly they're said to have "forgotten the face of their father."




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: loriduncan

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:40 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Lol what does that even mean, I've never heard that expression before.
Thanks though for being on my side.  :)

-Original Message- 
From: Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:21 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't
yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino  
wrote:


Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
officially mad, now.


On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like 
walter


and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the 
bullie's


side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of 
that


school and was much happier back home.

From Lori.

-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you 
though.

But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community,
know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
something worse in the future.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can 
only


hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.

-Original Message- From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like 
Clok


to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, 
in


fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough evidence
against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done
the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still 
his


friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, 
then


put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so
imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.

Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who
are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a 
lot,


especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.

I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player 
base


growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about
this whole thing.
From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Allison Passino
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility
and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a
misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an
admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have
no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do.
Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more!


On 3/9/16, loriduncan 

Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

[Bryan Peterson]

LOL now I'm going to be imagining Roland Deschain trying to use a computer. 
Astin and Tuterfish LOL.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:21 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Sam and Walter both have forgotten the face of their fathers. If it isn't 
yet evident, Lorrie, I'm on your side.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 12, 2016, at 2:49 AM, Allison Passino  
wrote:


Well that really sucks! I am sorry, Lori. I thought that Sam was more
sensible, but it is clear that he is not. Well I did think this game
was okay; I don't use mac so I didn't care that it was only on
Windows, but I shall not be party to a game where good people whom I
consider friends are being mistreated, and no lawful, just action is
being taken! For that is not honour. Sam is young yet though, and I do
hope that he grows the frack up and sees what a chameleon his supposed
friend is! And i don't know you well, Lori, but you are a good friend
of Bryan Peterson who was my ex, so any good friend of Bryan's is a
good friend of mine! Bryan's good people! smile Sorry for the off
topic Dark, just wanted Lori to know that I too, am on her side. Both
Sam and Walter's conduct is, in my opinion, untenable! And I am
officially mad, now.


On 3/12/16, loriduncan  wrote:
Hi, yes I agree with that whole-heartedly, and at least people are
forewarned now and know what to look out for.  I was bullied when I was
about 12 years old at a school for the blind, and this girl was like 
walter


and used emotional blackmail a lot, and like now the staff took the 
bullie's


side because they said she had issues.  Thankfully though I got out of 
that


school and was much happier back home.

From Lori.

-Original Message-
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:59 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

I hope he doesn't attack anyone else. I'm so sorry he attacked you 
though.

But I look at it this way. It's better that you, and the whole community,
know that he's a bad apple than for no one to know at all and he do
something worse in the future.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:55 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

I know, and as for Walter, the guy is sick and instable and needs a
reality check.  I've lost a very dear friend because of him, and can 
only


hope he doesn't move onto more victoms.

-Original Message- From: Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:47 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Wow, that's horrible. I don't play his game anyways, since it's like 
Clok


to the absolute extreme, and is only for Windows.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 12, 2016, at 1:42 AM, loriduncan 
wrote:

Thanks, but actually Sam didn't ban walter from being an admin at all, 
in


fact he acused me publicly of being a lyer and of fordging the logs I
sent him, which I most certainly didn't do.  There was enough evidence
against walter without the logs I sent to Sam, and he should have done
the mature thing and acted on that, but no, he thinks Walter is still 
his


friend and saw fit to alter those logs to make them both look good, 
then


put all that crap on the forrum and even on twitter, some people are so
imature and have no lives whatsoever, which makes me sick.

Thankfully the only people who matter to me are the ones like Dark who
are on my side, and aprone too, thanks a lot guys, it really means a 
lot,


especially as I'm still grieving over the loss of my friend.

I only hope one day sam will grow up for long enough to see what a
mistake he has made, it'll only take something small like his player 
base


growing smaller, to hopefully make him see how imature he's been about
this whole thing.
From Lori.

-Original Message- From: Allison Passino
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:32 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Well, good riddance, and it's good that Sam took the responsibility
and banned him. From all you've said, this Walter sounds like a
misogynistic, triple stoop moron jerk, who should certainly not be an
admin! I'm sorry you and your friend were hurt by him. Stalkers have
no life and no true sense of self, else they would not do as they do.
Big hugs, and don't let him bother your thoughts any more!


On 3/9/16, loriduncan  wrote:
Yes Swan, I saw that on the topic, thank goodness he's taking it
seriously.

-Original Message-
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:15 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A warning to all who play survive the wild.

Well sam actually replyed this morning and is handling it don't