Re: [Audyssey] any other Microsoft flight simulator players on here?
Already have done that. What we need to do is to get Steam one hundred percent blind friendly. For those who want to attempt to contact Valve Corporation who don't return phone calls nor do they return e-mail letters the info is at the following. Valve Software 425-889-9642 E-mail address The CEO is Mr. Gabe Newell ga...@valvesoftware.com Best of luck if you can get a hold of anyone at Valve Corporation. Ron -Original Message- From: Mike Wassel Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 05:50 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other Microsoft flight simulator players on here? use steam with nodwrite. On the desktop icon of steam, go to properties and put this. Substitute username and password with your username and password. -login "username" "password" -no-dwrite That won't make it great, but it will be usable with object navigation and screen review. Mike. On 1/19/2017 5:21 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote: Will, I've down loaded and installed the OCR package and no difference. -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 01:13 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? You need to be using NVDA with Steam. Its OCR add-on that can be downloaded seems to make the steam client usable for the most part. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can
Re: [Audyssey] any other Microsoft flight simulator players on here?
use steam with nodwrite. On the desktop icon of steam, go to properties and put this. Substitute username and password with your username and password. -login "username" "password" -no-dwrite That won't make it great, but it will be usable with object navigation and screen review. Mike. On 1/19/2017 5:21 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote: Will, I've down loaded and installed the OCR package and no difference. -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 01:13 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? You need to be using NVDA with Steam. Its OCR add-on that can be downloaded seems to make the steam client usable for the most part. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other Microsoft flight simulator players on here?
Will, I've down loaded and installed the OCR package and no difference. -Original Message- From: Jordan Gallacher Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 01:13 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? You need to be using NVDA with Steam. Its OCR add-on that can be downloaded seems to make the steam client usable for the most part. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here?
Oh, steem itself is generally accessible, I don't have too much trouble installing things on the computer, (though I generally install things from the web site, since you can tell it what to download, and which computer to install on), but I've not actually tried running any of the games themselves, because I've not (yet) downloaded one that was accessible. If ms fs is accessible, then I'll certainly give it a try, and see what can be done. As long as your steem copy is running on your machine, you can do all downloading and installing from the steem web page, so you don't even need to run local installs. I don't know how accessible the interface is by itself though, since like I said, I've only gotten steem for my kids, (mostly my son), though my daughter and wife do use it occasionally. But, they don't use screen readers, so I've never had occasion to see the steem interface itself and how accessible it is or isn't. Something to look into it looks like. On Thu, 19 Jan 2017, Ron Kolesar wrote: I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
I have a pretty specific setup because of all the add-ons and flight control system I have. I do not use the push to talk key, and all the other settings are basically dependent on what add-ons I have installed. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? Hi, Thanks much... Any other tips, as have just purchoused a regkey, I.E. setting a PTT key in options, or anything else that you find particularly useful? Thanks much, Daniel On 1/19/2017 6:11 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: > If you are trying to get to the Options Panel and Update the database, > that is where it gets tricky. When everything is running, and IYP > says it's your plane we are ready to go, say open options panel. Now > is the tricky bit. I have yet to find a screen reader that works > until you have turned on the virtual mouse mode and clicked on > something. I normally go to an edit field since that won't turn > something on or off. Then I can turn virtual mouse mode off after > clicking in the edit field since now I am able to use my screen reader as normal and get to the Update Database button. > Hope this helps, > Jordan > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel > wolak > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:04 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? > > Hi, > > I've checked both of those things, the strange thing is that IYP > itself seems to work, I'm just not able to access the control panel at > all, it's strange. > > Thanks, > > > Daniel > > > On 1/19/2017 5:57 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: >> One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check >> to make sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX >> running with a plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make >> sure that you have an internet connection. All of the above could be >> the reason IYP is doing that. >> Jordan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel >> wolak >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? >> >> Hi all, >> >> Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: >> >> I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten >> everything set up right(I believe so anyways)... >> >> I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move >> focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: >> debug and exit application. >> >> Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of >> some sort, but can't see the contense... >> >> Any tips? >> >> Thanks much, >> >> >> Daniel >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If y
Re: [Audyssey] Dreamy Train
Okay cool. I was watching the video the guy made on YouTube but I got tired of hearing him repeat what the Synth says. Where can I get the game, and do I need to get the add-on and install it first. Yes I been to Slidell. Cool place. I am in New Iberia. On 1/12/17, Jordan Gallacher wrote: > No, it is not on audiogames.net the last time I looked. I just happened > upon it from a YouTube channel I follow. It is in Japanese, but NVDA with > JGT installed seems to do pretty well when I watch the videos. I just > can't > seem to get the game to load up completely after I have made sure NVDA is > selected. > I am currently in Slidell, which is a good place not to be blind in. Lol. > Jordan > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Danielle > Ledet > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:42 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dreamy Train > > Is this game on audiogames.net? Jordan, what part of LA do you live in? I'm > in La too. > > On 1/12/17, Jordan Gallacher wrote: >> Is there anyone out there who has gotten Dreamy Train to work on Windows > 10? >> It installs fine, and opens fine, but after I get through all the >> dialoge boxes and have made sure NVDA is set as the screen reader and >> hit enter, the next screen I get ends up just saying Dreamy Train >> Right Arrow. Am I missing something? >> Jordan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > -- > How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, > compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of > the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of > these. > George Washington Carver > Email: singingmywa...@gmail.com > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and strong. Because someday in your life you will have been all of these. George Washington Carver Email: singingmywa...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
Hi, Thanks much... Any other tips, as have just purchoused a regkey, I.E. setting a PTT key in options, or anything else that you find particularly useful? Thanks much, Daniel On 1/19/2017 6:11 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: > If you are trying to get to the Options Panel and Update the database, that > is where it gets tricky. When everything is running, and IYP says it's your > plane we are ready to go, say open options panel. Now is the tricky bit. I > have yet to find a screen reader that works until you have turned on the > virtual mouse mode and clicked on something. I normally go to an edit field > since that won't turn something on or off. Then I can turn virtual mouse > mode off after clicking in the edit field since now I am able to use my > screen reader as normal and get to the Update Database button. > Hope this helps, > Jordan > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:04 PM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? > > Hi, > > I've checked both of those things, the strange thing is that IYP itself > seems to work, I'm just not able to access the control panel at all, it's > strange. > > Thanks, > > > Daniel > > > On 1/19/2017 5:57 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: >> One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check to >> make sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX running >> with a plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make sure that >> you have an internet connection. All of the above could be the reason >> IYP is doing that. >> Jordan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel >> wolak >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? >> >> Hi all, >> >> Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: >> >> I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything >> set up right(I believe so anyways)... >> >> I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move >> focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: >> debug and exit application. >> >> Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of >> some sort, but can't see the contense... >> >> Any tips? >> >> Thanks much, >> >> >> Daniel >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
With FSX in focus, and iyp having said captain, it's your plane. Say "Open options Panel". When the options panel is in view--NVDA will say IYP options, hit alt-U. On 1/19/2017 1:04 PM, daniel wolak wrote: Hi, I've checked both of those things, the strange thing is that IYP itself seems to work, I'm just not able to access the control panel at all, it's strange. Thanks, Daniel On 1/19/2017 5:57 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check to make sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX running with a plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make sure that you have an internet connection. All of the above could be the reason IYP is doing that. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? Hi all, Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything set up right(I believe so anyways)... I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: debug and exit application. Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of some sort, but can't see the contense... Any tips? Thanks much, Daniel --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here?
You need to be using NVDA with Steam. Its OCR add-on that can be downloaded seems to make the steam client usable for the most part. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:07 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
If you are trying to get to the Options Panel and Update the database, that is where it gets tricky. When everything is running, and IYP says it's your plane we are ready to go, say open options panel. Now is the tricky bit. I have yet to find a screen reader that works until you have turned on the virtual mouse mode and clicked on something. I normally go to an edit field since that won't turn something on or off. Then I can turn virtual mouse mode off after clicking in the edit field since now I am able to use my screen reader as normal and get to the Update Database button. Hope this helps, Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? Hi, I've checked both of those things, the strange thing is that IYP itself seems to work, I'm just not able to access the control panel at all, it's strange. Thanks, Daniel On 1/19/2017 5:57 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: > One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check to > make sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX running > with a plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make sure that > you have an internet connection. All of the above could be the reason > IYP is doing that. > Jordan > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel > wolak > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? > >Hi all, > > Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: > > I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything > set up right(I believe so anyways)... > > I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move > focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: > debug and exit application. > > Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of > some sort, but can't see the contense... > > Any tips? > > Thanks much, > > > Daniel > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here?
I had a sighted friend set up my steam account for me. But I too would like to know how to find ones way around in the steam world via a screen reader. I mainly am using jaws for windows. So, any tips and tricks via jaws would be deeply appreciated it. I'm a long time fsx and IYP user, but it looks like I'm having problems installing my dvds onto my new kick behind windows 10 anniversary computer. I had my sighted father take a look at my dvds, and he saw nothing wrong with the DVDS. So, I don't know why I can not install fsx gold now days simply FSX onto my new pc. If anyone has any advice on this, I'd welcome it. Many Thanks. Ron Kolesar -Original Message- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 08:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here? We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here?
Hi, As far as I can tell, the interface seems to be the same as the original, although there's an anoying webpage that's blocking me from doing anything that opens up every time I try to launch it, as soon as I get that sorted I'de be happy to write up a brief tutorial on how to do it, unless someone else who's done this before would be willing to? Thanks much, Daniel On 1/29/2002 1:23 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does > anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if > I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing > a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular > encarnation of flight sim? > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
Hi, I've checked both of those things, the strange thing is that IYP itself seems to work, I'm just not able to access the control panel at all, it's strange. Thanks, Daniel On 1/19/2017 5:57 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote: > One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check to make > sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX running with a > plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make sure that you have an > internet connection. All of the above could be the reason IYP is doing > that. > Jordan > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? > >Hi all, > > Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: > > I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything set > up right(I believe so anyways)... > > I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move focus > to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: debug and exit > application. > > Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of some > sort, but can't see the contense... > > Any tips? > > Thanks much, > > > Daniel > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
One of two things could be the problem from the sound of it. Check to make sure you have installed FSIUPC. Also, you must have FSX running with a plane parked at a gate or ramp. Also, check to make sure that you have an internet connection. All of the above could be the reason IYP is doing that. Jordan -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of daniel wolak Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] IYP on windows10? Hi all, Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything set up right(I believe so anyways)... I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: debug and exit application. Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of some sort, but can't see the contense... Any tips? Thanks much, Daniel --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] any other microsoft flight simulator players on here?
We can play the steem version of microsoft flight simulator? Does anyone have a how-to on this? I have steem (mostly for my son), but if I can actually play one of those games, I'm not opposed to purchasing a copy for myself. Where do I go for information on this particular encarnation of flight sim? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] alter aeon request
3k has mining as one of the crafts it supports. You can make all sorts of things, though it's mostly armor/weapons (ok, entirely) but it's still mining and smithing, and then there's farming, and cheffing (is that a word) so you can grow plants and make food that will temporarily raise your stats. It's quite involved, and you can do it as much or as little as you like while you play the rest of the mud as well. 3k.org is the address (use any number of ports, 23, 5000, and I think even 3000), it all works. On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, dark wrote: Hi josh. I don't think any mud will be like minecraft, since a major reason for minecraft is mining different bricks and building things in three dimentions with them, rather like lego bricks. I don't think any mud would have that. Alteraeon does have some cool crafting though and more is being added, I love brewing. No mining as yet. if you want a mud with fun mining try clok, though again that's more realistic mining where you find ores and smelt them like minecraft. Alteraeon is great for all the other reasons though, oh and yes, mushZ is being updated, I think the last update was in december. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] IYP on windows10?
Hi all, Posting this here also, to see if any of you can shed any insite: I'm just now starting out with IYP, and seem to have gotten everything set up right(I believe so anyways)... I'm now trying to update the runway/airport database, but when I move focus to the IYP application that's open, I only see two buttons: debug and exit application. Anyone know what this is, I've got a feeling that it's an error of some sort, but can't see the contense... Any tips? Thanks much, Daniel --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audiogames forum down
Yes it is. Again, Sander, our webmaster is working on it. Alkl the best, Dark. Due to Btinternet being inconvenient, this email address will not be in use for very long. Please contact me on my other public address, d...@xgam.org. When I have a new private address, I will let everyone know. - Original Message - From: "Shaun Everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 1:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] audiogames forum down Hi. The ag forum is offline. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
