Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
Hi. While I can't speak for why Jaws does certain things, I can tell you that the approach that screen readers have with key strokes is no different than two car manufacturers have about the placement of buttons, styles, etc on their cars. Take Toyota and Honda for example. they both make excellent cars, but things work differently in them because each company feels it is doing the better thing. I realize this of course does not help you, but hey, if you want some Window-Eyes help, GW Micro's technical support is legendary and there is a real cool guy who works for them and he's always willing to help out a fellow Window-Eyes user. He hasn't been with the company long, but he's used Vocal-Eyes since version 2 and Window-Eyes since version 1 so he knows what he's talking about when it comes to Window-Eyes. One thing I can guarantee if you call GW Micro is that you won't be treated like you are dumb, nor will you be treated any differently just because you also use Jaws. Now, to stop breaking my own rules, I'll not write any more on this topic, so if you have any questions about this, write privately. ari said the following on 12/18/2007 1:37 AM: > One thing I can't stand about this whole screenreader thing is doing the > change. I use JAWS at home, the uni to which I'm transferring uses WE, so > this holiday I've been busy reading the mannual and having to learn WE. Why > isn't there some quick document or something that makes moving from the one > to the other easier! The funny thing is that both companies say their > keystrokes are the most logical, like in Word, to hear the atributes of a > document, you do insert f, probably for format or font or something, and > then with WE you do ctrl shift s, probably for style or something? I really > could have had something better to do this holiday, crying! > Ari > -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
Well I use hal and jaws. I use jaws for some websites and andvanced things and hal for the rest but then I use old versions of each thing as I havn't the cash to upgrade. At 08:26 p.m. 18/12/2007, you wrote: >And while everyone's at it, throw some big, Hal-using lads into the battle, >charge! > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
Brandon, cool! What other funny stuff can be done to make JAWS and synthesizer do that? It was sort of going lower, like spinning! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
You mean Microsoft worhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrd? Abusing jaws lol. Brandon - Original Message - From: "ari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge > One thing I can't stand about this whole screenreader thing is doing the > change. I use JAWS at home, the uni to which I'm transferring uses WE, so > this holiday I've been busy reading the mannual and having to learn WE. > Why > isn't there some quick document or something that makes moving from the > one > to the other easier! The funny thing is that both companies say their > keystrokes are the most logical, like in Word, to hear the atributes of a > document, you do insert f, probably for format or font or something, and > then with WE you do ctrl shift s, probably for style or something? I > really > could have had something better to do this holiday, crying! > Ari > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
And while everyone's at it, throw some big, Hal-using lads into the battle, charge! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
Have we really run out of topics of conversation? I don't particularly care what screenreader so and so uses. I use JAWS. It works for me. And that's as far as I go with it. Ceasefire. At 01:37 AM 18/12/2007, you wrote: >One thing I can't stand about this whole screenreader thing is doing the >change. I use JAWS at home, the uni to which I'm transferring uses WE, so >this holiday I've been busy reading the mannual and having to learn WE. Why >isn't there some quick document or something that makes moving from the one >to the other easier! The funny thing is that both companies say their >keystrokes are the most logical, like in Word, to hear the atributes of a >document, you do insert f, probably for format or font or something, and >then with WE you do ctrl shift s, probably for style or something? I really >could have had something better to do this holiday, crying! >Ari > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
One thing I can't stand about this whole screenreader thing is doing the change. I use JAWS at home, the uni to which I'm transferring uses WE, so this holiday I've been busy reading the mannual and having to learn WE. Why isn't there some quick document or something that makes moving from the one to the other easier! The funny thing is that both companies say their keystrokes are the most logical, like in Word, to hear the atributes of a document, you do insert f, probably for format or font or something, and then with WE you do ctrl shift s, probably for style or something? I really could have had something better to do this holiday, crying! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] JAWS abuse revenge
If you continue to pick on JAWS and users of the program, a curse on you: May you have to write code using 8.5 by 11 inch sheets of paper with adhesive on the back, in braille, with a slate and stylus, while dealing with arthritis! Now, how's that? for being ornery. --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] size of messages > Hi Raul, > Hmmm... Seeing that both of us are moderators and use Window eyes we > will win the screen reader war. Best not to start one As the Jaws users > wil lose. hahahaha. > Seriously, I did some all nighters this week end blasting apart mutants > in SOD. I have had the game for 5 years and I still get a kick out of > kicking monster butt on that game. > > > Raul a. Gallegos wrote: >> Yeah, it does seem that way eh? Well, I do admit, I did not sleep as >> well as I could have, mainly due to the fact that I played several games >> last night, including Monty BTW. You realize of course that with that >> Jaws comment, you are opening up the doors for a screen reader war. You >> also realize of course that the two co-moderators of this list are >> Window-Eyes users, one of whom actually works for the company. I wonder >> what people will think? >> >> OK, I'll stop now. >> --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
