Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-28 Thread Zachary Kline
THere’s nothing to find out, I’m afraid. It’s totally inaccessible, and in any 
case the iOS version has been improved so much that it’s definitely the 
recommended version, even by the author himself. He’s said publicly that if 
iPhones had existed in 1999, he would have made the game for them from the 
start, or words to that effect.
The iOS version has also been improved with fifteen new scenes, on top of the 
thirty or more that were added in previous updates. So yeah, more events, more 
balance, and fewer bugs. iOS all the way.
On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:25 AM, lindsay.cow...@virginmedia.com wrote:

 If anyone could find out if it is, I'd be willing to try it.
 
 Lindsay Cowell
 
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass
 From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
 Date: 27/06/2014 3:17 pm
 
 You know, KODP is available for PC, too. I wonder if its accessible for PC 
 too?
 Devin Prater
 r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Jun 27, 2014, at 5:02 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 
 Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
 complexity.
 
 I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to put 
 down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at the new 
 updates, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try, sinse 
 there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of them really 
 interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse the developers 
 made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your starting the new scenes 
 more likely to appear if your upgrading from the old version.
 
 Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed in 
 my first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with leadership 
 and combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two heroquests, 
 fail at the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping Orlanth. I 
 also confess I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend of mine does 
 Live action roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon of gods, and 
 would always play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in Karate and 
 doing krav magar, so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.
 
 That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
 himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales lady 
 who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic later 
 on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine to 
 Venga, sinse both of her blessings are awsome.
 
 I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
 really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. This 
 is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.
 
 As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for the 
 first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need 
 
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[Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark
I stuck King of dragon pass on on Wednesday night to see what the new updates 
were like, and then I couldn't stop playing and quite literally have been doing 
so for the last two days (dam that game is hard to put down!). 

The only slightly disappointing thing is I actually lost the game due to 
heroquests. With the way the new lore page is laid out every myth has a 
details link next to it. When however I got the details of a couple of myths, 
like the earth mother feeds the tribe, or the cow goddess's blessing (I won't 
attempt to spell there names), the details changed to secrets so I assumed 
that was how the quests were labeled. 

Unfortunately it turns out I was wrong. Lots of the other quests like the 
Healing goddess heals the scars don't have a secrets tag, they still read 
details even when I had the details of the myth. 

So I kept trying the Cow goddess's quest, failed three times and hus failed the 
short game! gr! 

I also confess I did cheat a little, by consulting the Kodp wiki on each quest 
to actually make sure what I was choosing were the best options, sinse one 
really irritating thing about attempting heroquests for the first time is that 
it's actually possible to choose the right option (ie the one from the myth), 
and still have the action fail, meaning often it seems you've done something 
wrong when actually you took the right action. 

I suppose I could restore to the point my tribe was formed, but that seems a 
bit too much like cheating, plus I'd rather try the thing myself again, 
particularly sinse I've now decided playing a thrawl taking clan is 
significantly more problematic than not, and also that it really! seems battle 
blessings are essential to winning any kind of battle at all early in the game.

Beware the gRue! 

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread Anouk Radix
Hey Dark, Yep dragon pass is really addicting, think i should start a new game 
too.
The first blessings i try to get are those from the war god humakth and I 
always try to get a humakti on the ring. But then again i am also always a war 
clan, never tried peace or balanced for a prolonged time.
I must admit that i often cheat if hqs go wrong, that really has a drastic 
impact on your clan. I should try a game the normal way.
I have tried the HARD game a few times now but that is REALLY hard.
And playing it for a long time, the first time i played kodp i played it once 
for 12 hrs on end.
I think their game engine is available for purchase, would be cool to see more 
games like this.
Greetings, Anouk,
On 27 Jun 2014, at 11:33, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 I stuck King of dragon pass on on Wednesday night to see what the new updates 
 were like, and then I couldn't stop playing and quite literally have been 
 doing so for the last two days (dam that game is hard to put down!). 
 
 The only slightly disappointing thing is I actually lost the game due to 
 heroquests. With the way the new lore page is laid out every myth has a 
 details link next to it. When however I got the details of a couple of 
 myths, like the earth mother feeds the tribe, or the cow goddess's blessing 
 (I won't attempt to spell there names), the details changed to secrets so I 
 assumed that was how the quests were labeled. 
 
 Unfortunately it turns out I was wrong. Lots of the other quests like the 
 Healing goddess heals the scars don't have a secrets tag, they still read 
 details even when I had the details of the myth. 
 
 So I kept trying the Cow goddess's quest, failed three times and hus failed 
 the short game! gr! 
 
 I also confess I did cheat a little, by consulting the Kodp wiki on each 
 quest to actually make sure what I was choosing were the best options, sinse 
 one really irritating thing about attempting heroquests for the first time is 
 that it's actually possible to choose the right option (ie the one from the 
 myth), and still have the action fail, meaning often it seems you've done 
 something wrong when actually you took the right action. 
 
 I suppose I could restore to the point my tribe was formed, but that seems a 
 bit too much like cheating, plus I'd rather try the thing myself again, 
 particularly sinse I've now decided playing a thrawl taking clan is 
 significantly more problematic than not, and also that it really! seems 
 battle blessings are essential to winning any kind of battle at all early in 
 the game.
 
 Beware the gRue! 
 
 Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark
Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
complexity.


I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to put 
down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at the new 
updaes, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try, sinse 
there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of them really 
interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse the developers 
made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your starting the new scenes 
more likely to appear if your upgrading from the old version.


Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed in 
my first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with leadership 
and combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two heroquests, 
fail at the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping Orlanth. I 
also confess I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend of mine does 
Live action roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon of gods, and 
would always play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in Karate and 
doing krav magar, so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.


That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales lady 
who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic later 
on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine to 
Venga, sinse both of her blessings are awsome.


I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. This 
is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.


As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for the 
first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need 



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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark

Sorry dropped my keyboard and the message got sent by mistake :D.

As I said, I don't tend to like restoring sinse not only do you have to play 
through the hole year again (quite a pain if you've failed a heroquest in 
storm season), but also I actually like the story element of this being a 
real clan where things can go wrong as well as right. It's sort of more fun.


indeed even though my clan lost that last game, I still wish I could have a 
reccord of their saga (unfortunately my Iphone doesn't like my mail server 
so I can't setup E-mail on it). I actually wish there was an in game reccord 
of the sagas past games.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread James Howard
can someone point me to the kodp wiki?

On 6/27/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Sorry dropped my keyboard and the message got sent by mistake :D.

 As I said, I don't tend to like restoring sinse not only do you have to play

 through the hole year again (quite a pain if you've failed a heroquest in
 storm season), but also I actually like the story element of this being a
 real clan where things can go wrong as well as right. It's sort of more
 fun.

 indeed even though my clan lost that last game, I still wish I could have a

 reccord of their saga (unfortunately my Iphone doesn't like my mail server
 so I can't setup E-mail on it). I actually wish there was an in game reccord

 of the sagas past games.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread Anouk Radix
Hi, If i ever go into roleplaying I will certainly play a vinga worshipping 
badass woman.
I am gong to try balanced next, that might be a bit of a challenge, i  mostly 
start worshipping elmal because its a bit different then normal orlanthi, i do 
long games but at normal difficulty.
I tend to get huge tracts of land but might now try with a bit less because you 
quickly tend to overgrow the comfortable clansize this way.

Greetings, Anouk,
On 27 Jun 2014, at 12:02, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
 complexity.
 
 I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to put 
 down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at the new 
 updaes, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try, sinse 
 there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of them really 
 interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse the developers 
 made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your starting the new scenes 
 more likely to appear if your upgrading from the old version.
 
 Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed in my 
 first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with leadership and 
 combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two heroquests, fail at 
 the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping Orlanth. I also confess 
 I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend of mine does Live action 
 roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon of gods, and would always 
 play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in Karate and doing krav magar, 
 so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.
 
 That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
 himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales lady 
 who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic later 
 on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine to Venga, 
 sinse both of her blessings are awsome.
 
 I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
 really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. This 
 is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.
 
 As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for the 
 first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread Anouk Radix
As to iphone games, i really have to try star traders elite again (i didnt buy 
that on eofr nothing) but find the interface a bit difficult. I think i would 
like the content though.
Greetings, Anouk,
On 27 Jun 2014, at 12:06, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Sorry dropped my keyboard and the message got sent by mistake :D.
 
 As I said, I don't tend to like restoring sinse not only do you have to play 
 through the hole year again (quite a pain if you've failed a heroquest in 
 storm season), but also I actually like the story element of this being a 
 real clan where things can go wrong as well as right. It's sort of more fun.
 
 indeed even though my clan lost that last game, I still wish I could have a 
 reccord of their saga (unfortunately my Iphone doesn't like my mail server so 
 I can't setup E-mail on it). I actually wish there was an in game reccord of 
 the sagas past games.
 
 Beware the grue!
 
 Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark

Hi.

It's at http://kingofdragonpass.wikia.com/wiki/King_of_Dragon_Pass_Wiki I 
also put a link to it on the audiogames.net page for Kodp as well. Though of 
course bare in mind it contains spoilers, indeed I've not read any of the 
information on extra scenes etc, just the basic info pages and the walkthrus 
for a couple of heroquests I was attempting to be sure I knew what the right 
choices were, sinse if any game doesn't want spoiling it's Kodp.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: James Howard coldshadow...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:50 AM
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can someone point me to the kodp wiki?

On 6/27/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Sorry dropped my keyboard and the message got sent by mistake :D.

As I said, I don't tend to like restoring sinse not only do you have to 
play


through the hole year again (quite a pain if you've failed a heroquest in
storm season), but also I actually like the story element of this being a
real clan where things can go wrong as well as right. It's sort of more
fun.

indeed even though my clan lost that last game, I still wish I could have 
a


reccord of their saga (unfortunately my Iphone doesn't like my mail 
server
so I can't setup E-mail on it). I actually wish there was an in game 
reccord


of the sagas past games.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark
I've not tried a game where I didn't worship Orlanth, then again i've only 
played a few games seriously, ie, long enough to form a tribe.


I usually start with the slightly more land option so that my clan has room 
to expand, but not so much it's easy for nasty neighbors to come and grab 
it.
One thing the manual says is absolutely true, you can't win by slaughtering 
everyone sinse the object is to make peace. I therefore tend to try to 
resolve feuds as much as possible and make allies, but leave a couple of 
feuds going with especially hated rivals so that my  weaponthanes  have 
something to sharpen their swords on.


Btw if you play a war clan what do you tend to find in terms of combat are 
the best tactics to go for? There is a table on the wiki but I didn't 
particularly get the point.


I tend to find sacrificing before battle is pretty useless, charging works 
better when you outnumber the enemy, when things are roughly equal skirmish 
is best when attacking and maneuvers when defending, accept against horse 
spawn, and evade is best when your outnumbered.


AlsoI'm not sure on the raid objectives, taking captives seems best when you 
outnumber the enemy but not to work otherwise, and survival is best when 
your outnumbered.


When things are roughly equal drive them off or plunder works, I'm not 
really sure on burn homesteads or kill as many as possible objectives sinse 
I don't tend to use those much,  after all they're pretty scummy ways to 
fight :D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass


Hi, If i ever go into roleplaying I will certainly play a vinga 
worshipping badass woman.
I am gong to try balanced next, that might be a bit of a challenge, i 
mostly start worshipping elmal because its a bit different then normal 
orlanthi, i do long games but at normal difficulty.
I tend to get huge tracts of land but might now try with a bit less 
because you quickly tend to overgrow the comfortable clansize this way.


Greetings, Anouk,
On 27 Jun 2014, at 12:02, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
complexity.


I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to 
put down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at 
the new updaes, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a 
try, sinse there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of 
them really interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse 
the developers made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your 
starting the new scenes more likely to appear if your upgrading from the 
old version.


Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed 
in my first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with 
leadership and combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two 
heroquests, fail at the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping 
Orlanth. I also confess I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend 
of mine does Live action roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon 
of gods, and would always play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in 
Karate and doing krav magar, so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.


That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales 
lady who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic 
later on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine 
to Venga, sinse both of her blessings are awsome.


I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. 
This is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.


As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for 
the first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need


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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread Devin Prater
You know, KODP is available for PC, too. I wonder if its accessible for PC too?
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 5:02 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
 complexity.
 
 I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to put 
 down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at the new 
 updaes, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try, sinse 
 there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of them really 
 interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse the developers 
 made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your starting the new scenes 
 more likely to appear if your upgrading from the old version.
 
 Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed in my 
 first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with leadership and 
 combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two heroquests, fail at 
 the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping Orlanth. I also confess 
 I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend of mine does Live action 
 roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon of gods, and would always 
 play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in Karate and doing krav magar, 
 so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.
 
 That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
 himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales lady 
 who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic later 
 on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine to Venga, 
 sinse both of her blessings are awsome.
 
 I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
 really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. This 
 is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.
 
 As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for the 
 first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread dark
Last I heard the pc version wasn't accessible due to our old friend, 
graphical text with no propper windows txt.


BEware the grue!
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread Devin Prater
Ah, that's a shame.
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 10:14 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Last I heard the pc version wasn't accessible due to our old friend, 
 graphical text with no propper windows txt.
 
 BEware the grue!
 Dark. 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass

2014-06-27 Thread lindsay . cowell
If anyone could find out if it is, I'd be willing to try it.

Lindsay Cowell

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Just finished a game of King of dragon pass
From: Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
Date: 27/06/2014 3:17 pm

You know, KODP is available for PC, too. I wonder if its accessible for PC too?
Devin Prater
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 5:02 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

 Nice to see more of the same, but probably damnably awful! in terms of 
 complexity.
 
 I do know what you mean about addictive, I really! find the game hard to put 
 down once I start, indeed I only started because I wanted a look at the new 
 updaes, then couldn't stop. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try, sinse 
 there are a bunch of new scenes that have been added, some of them really 
 interesting ones. You'll guarantee to see them as well sinse the developers 
 made the new scenes more likely to turn up if your starting the new scenes 
 more likely to appear if your upgrading from the old version.
 
 Humact is great and usually I always start with a temple to him. Indeed in my 
 first game my tribal kin was a just plane awsome Humacti with leadership and 
 combat both at renowned who also managed to complete two heroquests, fail at 
 the humact quest but come back from limbo worshipping Orlanth. I also confess 
 I have a soft spot for Humact sinse a good friend of mine does Live action 
 roleplay in a system that uses the same pantheon of gods, and would always 
 play humacti warriors, she's now a blackbelt in Karate and doing krav magar, 
 so it's sort of appropriate for her :D.
 
 That being said, in the game I just finished my Humacti managed to get 
 himself killed when off exploring and was replaced by a hard as nales lady 
 who worshipped Venga and had renowned combat (which got to be heroic later 
 on. I actually always wish I could build a full two blessing shrine to Venga, 
 sinse both of her blessings are awsome.
 
 I personally prefer balanced to war, sinse when I tried a war clan I was 
 really struggling with both trade and keeping my herds and crops going. This 
 is why i tend to be a bbalanced clan player myself.
 
 As to restoring, well I restored when I failed the cow goddess quest for the 
 first time, however I usually don't tend to restore sinse you need 
 
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