Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi Jacob, I don't know, but it is annoying to say the least. I'd have to dig through the NVDA source code to figure out how it acquires the text on the console and figure out why it treats every character separately when typed characters is on. I'll probably contat the NVDA dev team in the next couple of days and see if they can fix this bug. Cheers! On 6/1/13, Jacob Kruger wrote: > Maybe they're making use of a form of character rendition trigger to catch > typed characters - as in as a character gets rendered to the screen, it > triggers a reading event, or something like that..? > > But, yes, might be simplest to ask NVDA dev team, or else, just use/remember > > the workaround, and, there are already also NVDA add-ins for things like > winglulx and winfrotz, etc., but, anyway. > > Stay well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi Shaun, Thanks. I have got it now. A couple of others have also provided the solution to the problem, and turning typed characters off does in deed work. Cheers! On 6/1/13, shaun everiss wrote: > tom hit nvda 2 to turn off the speaking of characters that are typed. > turn it back on when finnished it will also do as you described with > win7 defrag console mode and chkdsk and maybe other console programs. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Maybe they're making use of a form of character rendition trigger to catch typed characters - as in as a character gets rendered to the screen, it triggers a reading event, or something like that..? But, yes, might be simplest to ask NVDA dev team, or else, just use/remember the workaround, and, there are already also NVDA add-ins for things like winglulx and winfrotz, etc., but, anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games Hi Sky, In deed. That seems to be a rather odd bug in NVDA as Jaws, Window-Eyes, etc don't have this problem with console applications. NVDA is the only screen reader I know of to behave this way with text and console apps. On 5/31/13, Sky Mundell wrote: Hello Thomas, That might be something to discuss with the NVDA team. I wonder the same thing as well --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
well its really never been reported as you don't need char echo on anyway when playing some of those games. At 03:22 PM 6/1/2013, you wrote: Hi Sky, In deed. That seems to be a rather odd bug in NVDA as Jaws, Window-Eyes, etc don't have this problem with console applications. NVDA is the only screen reader I know of to behave this way with text and console apps. On 5/31/13, Sky Mundell wrote: > Hello Thomas, That might be something to discuss with the NVDA team. I > wonder the same thing as well > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
tom hit nvda 2 to turn off the speaking of characters that are typed. turn it back on when finnished it will also do as you described with win7 defrag console mode and chkdsk and maybe other console programs. At 12:12 PM 6/1/2013, you wrote: Hi everyone, I am not sure where to get help with this, but I've been having a strange issue with NVDA and text based games like Destination Mars, Atlantic City Blackjack, Run for President, etc where NVDA spells everything on the screen instead of reads it.So if you get a sentance like "what would you like to do" NVDA will go "w h a t w o u l d y o u l i k e t o d o" which is obviously annoying. In fact, it drives me slightly insane. However, if I shut NVDA up with the control key and read the screen with the review keys its fine, but when the screen of text first comes up NVDA just sits there and spells everything. Has anyone ever seen this problem before, and is there a fix for it? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi Sky, In deed. That seems to be a rather odd bug in NVDA as Jaws, Window-Eyes, etc don't have this problem with console applications. NVDA is the only screen reader I know of to behave this way with text and console apps. On 5/31/13, Sky Mundell wrote: > Hello Thomas, That might be something to discuss with the NVDA team. I > wonder the same thing as well > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hello Thomas, That might be something to discuss with the NVDA team. I wonder the same thing as well -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 6:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games Hi Sky, Thanks for the tip. That seems to have fixed the problem. I wonder why having typed characters on causes NVDA to read the display like that though? Cheers! On 5/31/13, Sky Mundell wrote: > Hello Thomas, what you have to do is turn off the speaking of typed > Carictors off with insert+2. That should solve the problem. I had that > problem too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi Sky, Thanks for the tip. That seems to have fixed the problem. I wonder why having typed characters on causes NVDA to read the display like that though? Cheers! On 5/31/13, Sky Mundell wrote: > Hello Thomas, what you have to do is turn off the speaking of typed > Carictors off with insert+2. That should solve the problem. I had that > problem too. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hello Thomas, what you have to do is turn off the speaking of typed Carictors off with insert+2. That should solve the problem. I had that problem too. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 5:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games Hi Charles, No it is not. I've run a few test here and it seems to make a difference if I use the old C printf function and the newer C++ cout function. Its possible NVDA doesn't like text if it is streemed rather than printed to the screen, but no other screen reader I've tried has this problem. On 5/31/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Just a thought off the top of my head: Is the text in all upper case? > Maybe that is why it is being spoken that way? > > -- > If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling > errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi Charles, No it is not. I've run a few test here and it seems to make a difference if I use the old C printf function and the newer C++ cout function. Its possible NVDA doesn't like text if it is streemed rather than printed to the screen, but no other screen reader I've tried has this problem. On 5/31/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Just a thought off the top of my head: Is the text in all upper case? > Maybe that is why it is being spoken that way? > > -- > If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling > errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Just a thought off the top of my head: Is the text in all upper case? Maybe that is why it is being spoken that way? -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games Hi everyone, I am not sure where to get help with this, but I've been having a strange issue with NVDA and text based games like Destination Mars, Atlantic City Blackjack, Run for President, etc where NVDA spells everything on the screen instead of reads it.So if you get a sentance like "what would you like to do" NVDA will go "w h a t w o u l d y o u l i k e t o d o" which is obviously annoying. In fact, it drives me slightly insane. However, if I shut NVDA up with the control key and read the screen with the review keys its fine, but when the screen of text first comes up NVDA just sits there and spells everything. Has anyone ever seen this problem before, and is there a fix for it? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Problem With NVDA amd Text Based Games
Hi everyone, I am not sure where to get help with this, but I've been having a strange issue with NVDA and text based games like Destination Mars, Atlantic City Blackjack, Run for President, etc where NVDA spells everything on the screen instead of reads it.So if you get a sentance like "what would you like to do" NVDA will go "w h a t w o u l d y o u l i k e t o d o" which is obviously annoying. In fact, it drives me slightly insane. However, if I shut NVDA up with the control key and read the screen with the review keys its fine, but when the screen of text first comes up NVDA just sits there and spells everything. Has anyone ever seen this problem before, and is there a fix for it? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
