Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread Helen Huntley 
I think for the good of the program and the university, they all need to go. If 
they are  allowed back, it sends a bad message to them and to the rest of the 
team. Actions need to have consequences. 
Plus it's a huge embarrassment to the university.

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> On Sep 27, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Ken Kirkley  wrote:
> 
> Telforts, while charged with 30 counts isn't really any worse than the 
> others.  Most of them mad one large purchase, Telford mad something like 15, 
> mostly for food deliveries of relatively small amounts.  I think his total 
> was something like $1500, Callaways was $1700 or something like that.
> 
> Callaway needs to go, because this is beyond his third strike. I think back 
> to the old dude (my god, he was 40!) he was in the car with when he got 
> busted for possession, maybe that is where the CC numbers came from.
> 
> Scarlett needs to go due to his statement about an agent.  I don't care if he 
> was just using that as a cover for his girlfriend, you mention an agent, 
> you're gone.  Also, it scares the hell out of me that "I got money from an 
> agent" was so believable...
> 
> Ken Kirkley
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:38 AM -0400, "John Vega"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over 
>>> this.  One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking 
>>> papers, you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to 
>>> suggest that Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of 
>>> the others to me.  The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving 
>>> Callaway and Scarlett the boot.  I say this not so much because of their 
>>> theft, but more because they should have been leaders and stopped this for 
>>> the good of the team.  I can understand how a freshman might get sucked 
>>> into such a scheme, especially if encouraged by an upper classman.
>> 
>> I agree.
>> 
>> Based on what I have read;
>> 
>> Desir-Jones & Telfort should be kicked out of school. They may be 
>> incarcerated regardless.
>> 
>> Callaway and Scarlett should sit out the year and be told to go pro.
>> 
>> The others, expecially some of the true freshmen with relatively minor 
>> involvement; sit out the year and whatever the judicial system metes out, 
>> live with it.
>> 
>> I’m not sure that I’d kick all nine off the team.
>> 
>> -Zeb
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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread Ken Kirkley 








Telforts, while charged with 30 counts isn't really any worse 
than the others.  Most of them mad one large purchase, Telford mad something 
like 15, mostly for food deliveries of relatively small amounts.  I think his 
total was something like $1500, Callaways was $1700 or something like that.
Callaway needs to go, because this is beyond his third strike. I think back to 
the old dude (my god, he was 40!) he was in the car with when he got busted for 
possession, maybe that is where the CC numbers came from.
Scarlett needs to go due to his statement about an agent.  I don't care if he 
was just using that as a cover for his girlfriend, you mention an agent, you're 
gone.  Also, it scares the hell out of me that "I got money from an agent" was 
so believable...


Ken Kirkley






On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:38 AM -0400, "John Vega"  wrote:











On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:
I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over this.  
One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking papers, 
you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to suggest that 
Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of the others to me.  
The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving Callaway and Scarlett the 
boot.  I say this not so much because of their theft, but more because they 
should have been leaders and stopped this for the good of the team.  I can 
understand how a freshman might get sucked into such a scheme, especially if 
encouraged by an upper classman.
I agree.
Based on what I have read;
Desir-Jones & Telfort should be kicked out of school. They may be incarcerated 
regardless.
Callaway and Scarlett should sit out the year and be told to go pro.
The others, expecially some of the true freshmen with relatively minor 
involvement; sit out the year and whatever the judicial system metes out, live 
with it.
I’m not sure that I’d kick all nine off the team.
-Zeb





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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread Jay Cicone 
Likely not Callaway….he’s already been in enough trouble. Of course, If this 
stuff becomes federal in nature, then I think they’re all finished, but I am no 
lawyer. What say you, John??

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The last I read, most will be eligible for pre-trial diversion.
First offense, plead guilty, it gets expunged if you stay out of trouble.
They would be able to play this season.
I’m not sure who will be eligible for this.

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On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jerry D. Belloit 
<bell...@clarion.edu<mailto:bell...@clarion.edu>> wrote:

I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over this.  
One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking papers, 
you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to suggest that 
Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of the others to me.  
The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving Callaway and Scarlett the 
boot.  I say this not so much because of their theft, but more because they 
should have been leaders and stopped this for the good of the team.  I can 
understand how a freshman might get sucked into such a scheme, especially if 
encouraged by an upper classman.

I agree.

Based on what I have read;

Desir-Jones & Telfort should be kicked out of school. They may be incarcerated 
regardless.

Callaway and Scarlett should sit out the year and be told to go pro.

The others, expecially some of the true freshmen with relatively minor 
involvement; sit out the year and whatever the judicial system metes out, live 
with it.

I’m not sure that I’d kick all nine off the team.

-Zeb
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RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread Oliver Barry 
The last I read, most will be eligible for pre-trial diversion.

First offense, plead guilty, it gets expunged if you stay out of trouble.

They would be able to play this season.

I’m not sure who will be eligible for this.

 

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card fraud case unfolded

 

 

On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jerry D. Belloit <bell...@clarion.edu> wrote:

 

I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over this.  
One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking papers, 
you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to suggest that 
Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of the others to me.  
The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving Callaway and Scarlett the 
boot.  I say this not so much because of their theft, but more because they 
should have been leaders and stopped this for the good of the team.  I can 
understand how a freshman might get sucked into such a scheme, especially if 
encouraged by an upper classman.

 

I agree.

 

Based on what I have read;

 

Desir-Jones & Telfort should be kicked out of school. They may be incarcerated 
regardless.

 

Callaway and Scarlett should sit out the year and be told to go pro.

 

The others, expecially some of the true freshmen with relatively minor 
involvement; sit out the year and whatever the judicial system metes out, live 
with it.

 

I’m not sure that I’d kick all nine off the team.

 

-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread John Vega 

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Jerry D. Belloit  wrote:
> 
> I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over 
> this.  One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking 
> papers, you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to 
> suggest that Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of the 
> others to me.  The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving Callaway 
> and Scarlett the boot.  I say this not so much because of their theft, but 
> more because they should have been leaders and stopped this for the good of 
> the team.  I can understand how a freshman might get sucked into such a 
> scheme, especially if encouraged by an upper classman.

I agree.

Based on what I have read;

Desir-Jones & Telfort should be kicked out of school. They may be incarcerated 
regardless.

Callaway and Scarlett should sit out the year and be told to go pro.

The others, expecially some of the true freshmen with relatively minor 
involvement; sit out the year and whatever the judicial system metes out, live 
with it.

I’m not sure that I’d kick all nine off the team.

-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-27 Thread Jerry D. Belloit 
I was watching ESPN last night and the Gators were getting hammered over this.  
One went as far to say that if Mac did not give Callaway his walking papers, 
you would have to question the culture at Florida.  He seemed to suggest that 
Callaway was the ring leader but it looks like it was one of the others to me.  
The more I think about it, I am leaning toward giving Callaway and Scarlett the 
boot.  I say this not so much because of their theft, but more because they 
should have been leaders and stopped this for the good of the team.  I can 
understand how a freshman might get sucked into such a scheme, especially if 
encouraged by an upper classman.

I wrote on the GC forum that if the charges were going to be resolved through 
PTI, I would make it a precondition that they be taken to the Lake Butler 
Reception center, stripped, have body cavities searched, get hosed down with 
delousing solution, put in an orange jump suit and crammed into a small cell 
(not with their teammates).  (This is the normal procedure for all who enter 
into the state prison system.)  After a week, I would have them prison 
transported to Raiford (FSP) and have some of the inmates there talk with them. 
 My fear is that if we make it too easy on them to get out of this mess, they 
will not feel the need for a paradigm shift for their behavior and their choice 
of friends.  As for their future at Florida, I will leave it to Mac but with 
some reservations about Callaway and Scarlett.

Jerry



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Date: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 9:56 PM
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card 
fraud case unfolded

Wow, somehow I thought this was going to be something a bit more subtle and a 
bit less nefarious. These guys were just flat-out stealing from people and they 
knew it. As Helen asks, how could they think no one would ever notice this? 
Whatever their backgrounds, they understood what they were doing and they knew 
it was illegal. Regardless of the legal outcome, though assuming they actually 
did these things, I really don’t think any of them should play for Florida ever 
again (yeah, even though they might transfer and end up winning a Heisman 
somewhere else)! I have been heavily critical of FSU in the past, and their 
tendency to excuse criminals who were also good players, and I feel like it 
would be hypocritical of me to think this was okay, but (e.g.) stealing crab 
legs from Publix isn’t.


On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford 
> wrote:
Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded
By
 Graham Hall
 (Gainesville SUN) -
September 26, 2017
0
17


[uspended UF 
players]Nine
 suspended Florida football players could face felony charges. They are, top 
row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, James Houston IV, 
Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, Jordan Scarlett, 
Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.


The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday when 
sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended University of 
Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 62 third-degree 
felony charges.

With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
$17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.

If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.

The investigation begins

On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually high 
amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. Students 
typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn complaint 
said.

Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
“chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end Jordan 
Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of UF running 
back Jordan Scarlett.

>From there,

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-26 Thread Charles Simpson 
I've heard some of these stolen CC # were from out of state so I wonder if the 
feds will get involved.

Charlie

On September 26, 2017 6:32:46 PM Helen Huntley  wrote:

I would never shoot you, Jay. I don't even own a gun :)
The environment in which the grew up and the fact that their friends were doing 
it are both important factors, so maybe they didn't care about morality, but I 
don't get how they think they would never get caught.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Jay Cicone 
> wrote:

Helen and all. Please don’t shoot me, but I feel it is indicative of the 
culture these kids come from. Not having much and taking what you can get is an 
accepted way of life. We have a long way to go in this country.

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[mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helen Huntley
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To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
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fraud case unfolded

I know not all athletes are bright, but you have to wonder how anyone could 
directly transfer stolen funds into their personal accounts and just assume no 
one would notice. Any theft is bad, but the stupidity compounds the situation.





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On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford 
> wrote:
Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded
By
 Graham 
Hall
 (Gainesville SUN) -
September 26, 2017
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17


Nine
 suspended Florida football players could face felony charges. They are, top 
row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, James Houston IV, 
Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, Jordan Scarlett, 
Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.


The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday when 
sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended University of 
Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 62 third-degree 
felony charges.

With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
$17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.

If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.

The investigation begins

On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually high 
amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. Students 
typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn complaint 
said.

Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
“chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end Jordan 
Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of UF running 
back Jordan Scarlett.

>From there, the investigation found similar transactions from accounts 
>belonging to seven other Gators football players: Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis 
>Davis, Richerd Desir-Jones, James Houston, Ventrell Miller, Kadeem Telfort and 
>Rick Wells.

Over the next five weeks, further investigation revealed a total of 15 stolen 
credit cards, with multiple players possessing illegally obtained 
identification information from people who told investigators they had never 
met any of the nine UF players.

A timeline of fraudulent charges

Based

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-26 Thread Helen Huntley 
I would never shoot you, Jay. I don't even own a gun :)
The environment in which the grew up and the fact that their friends were doing 
it are both important factors, so maybe they didn't care about morality, but I 
don't get how they think they would never get caught. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Jay Cicone  wrote:
> 
> Helen and all. Please don’t shoot me, but I feel it is indicative of the 
> culture these kids come from. Not having much and taking what you can get is 
> an accepted way of life. We have a long way to go in this country.
>  
> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Helen Huntley
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:01 PM
> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card 
> fraud case unfolded
>  
> I know not all athletes are bright, but you have to wonder how anyone could 
> directly transfer stolen funds into their personal accounts and just assume 
> no one would notice. Any theft is bad, but the stupidity compounds the 
> situation.
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:
> 
> Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded
> By
>  Graham Hall
>  (Gainesville SUN) - 
> September 26, 2017
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>  
>  
> Nine suspended Florida football players could face felony 
> charges. They are, top row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, 
> James Houston IV, Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, 
> Jordan Scarlett, Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.
>  
> The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday 
> when sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended 
> University of Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 
> 62 third-degree felony charges.
> 
> With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
> whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
> $17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.
> 
> If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
> sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
> evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.
> 
> The investigation begins
> 
> On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
> from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
> electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually 
> high amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. 
> Students typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn 
> complaint said.
> 
> Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
> “chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
> disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
> typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
> eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end 
> Jordan Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of 
> UF running back Jordan Scarlett.
> 
> From there, the investigation found similar transactions from accounts 
> belonging to seven other Gators football players: Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis 
> Davis, Richerd Desir-Jones, James Houston, Ventrell Miller, Kadeem Telfort 
> and Rick Wells.
> 
> Over the next five weeks, further investigation revealed a total of 15 stolen 
> credit cards, with multiple players possessing illegally obtained 
> identification information from people who told investigators they had never 
> met any of the nine UF players.
> 
> A timeline of fraudulent charges
> 
> Based on the criminal complaints, the fraudulent charges began at the end of 
> June and spanned until mid-August.
> 
> JUNE 26 – Kadeem Telfort makes four unsuccessful attempts to add $500+ to his 
> UF bookstore debit account before successfully adding $650 to his account 
> from a credit card belonging to Samuel E. Nelson from Hoschton, Georgia. The 
> next day, Telfort purchases a iPad from the UF bookstore for $424.94. Nelson 
> disputed the charge as fraudulent, later informing investigators he did not 
> know any UF students.
> 
> JUNE 30 – Rick Wells Jr. successfully adds $875 to his UF Bookstore debit 
> account using a credit card belonging to Michael Smith. Later that day, Wells 
> goes to the UF Bookstore and purchases two Apple iPads. The total for the 
> order was $849.97. At checkout, the clerk accidentally charged Wells’ UAA 
> scholarship account instead of his UF Bookstore account. Management at the 
> store later contacted Wells and requested the items be returned, as he was 
> barred from purchasing electronic merchandise with his UAA scholarship 
> account. Before he could

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-26 Thread Charles Simpson 
Scarlett must've of thought that because he transferred the stolen funds into 
his girlfriends account then convinced her that the money came from an agent.
Real prince.
Charlie

On September 26, 2017 5:17:18 PM "Oliver Barry"  wrote:
That’s exactly what I was thinking.


Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI
Real Estate Broker
PARKS
305B Indian Lake Blvd
Suite 220
Hendersonville TN 37075
Phone: 615-826-4040
Mobile: 615-972-4239
bar...@realtracs.com

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:01 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card 
fraud case unfolded

I know not all athletes are bright, but you have to wonder how anyone could 
directly transfer stolen funds into their personal accounts and just assume no 
one would notice. Any theft is bad, but the stupidity compounds the situation.





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On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford 
> wrote:
Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded
By
 Graham Hall
 (Gainesville SUN) -
September 26, 2017
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[Suspended UF 
players]Nine
 suspended Florida football players could face felony charges. They are, top 
row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, James Houston IV, 
Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, Jordan Scarlett, 
Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.


The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday when 
sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended University of 
Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 62 third-degree 
felony charges.

With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
$17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.

If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.

The investigation begins

On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually high 
amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. Students 
typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn complaint 
said.

Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
“chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end Jordan 
Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of UF running 
back Jordan Scarlett.

>From there, the investigation found similar transactions from accounts 
>belonging to seven other Gators football players: Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis 
>Davis, Richerd Desir-Jones, James Houston, Ventrell Miller, Kadeem Telfort and 
>Rick Wells.

Over the next five weeks, further investigation revealed a total of 15 stolen 
credit cards, with multiple players possessing illegally obtained 
identification information from people who told investigators they had never 
met any of the nine UF players.

A timeline of fraudulent charges

Based on the criminal complaints, the fraudulent charges began at the end of 
June and spanned until mid-August.

JUNE 26 – Kadeem Telfort makes four unsuccessful attempts to add $500+ to his 
UF bookstore debit account before successfully adding $650 to his account from 
a credit card belonging to Samuel E. Nelson from Hoschton, Georgia. The next 
day, Telfort purchases a iPad from the UF bookstore for $424.94. Nelson 
disputed the charge as fraudulent, later informing investigators he did not 
know any UF students.

JUNE 30 – Rick Wells Jr. successfully adds $875 to his UF Bookstore debit 
account using a credit card belonging to Michael Smith. Later that day, Wells 
goes to the UF Bookstore and purchases two Apple iPads. The total for the order 
was $849.97. At checkout, the clerk accidentally charged Wells’ UAA scholarship 
account instead of his UF Bookstore account. Management at the store later 
contacted Wells and requested the items be returned, as he was barred from 
purchasing electronic merchandise with his UAA scholarship account. Before he 
could return the

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-26 Thread Oliver Barry 
That’s exactly what I was thinking.

 

 

Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI

Real Estate Broker

PARKS

305B Indian Lake Blvd

Suite 220

Hendersonville TN 37075

Phone: 615-826-4040

Mobile: 615-972-4239

  bar...@realtracs.com

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:01 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card 
fraud case unfolded

 

I know not all athletes are bright, but you have to wonder how anyone could 
directly transfer stolen funds into their personal accounts and just assume no 
one would notice. Any theft is bad, but the stupidity compounds the situation.

 

 

 



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On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford  wrote:


Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded


By

   Graham Hall

 (Gainesville SUN) - 

September 26, 2017

 

 0

17

 

 

 

 Suspended UF playersNine suspended Florida football players could face felony 
charges. They are, top row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, 
James Houston IV, Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, 
Jordan Scarlett, Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.

 

The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday when 
sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended University of 
Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 62 third-degree 
felony charges.

With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
$17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.

If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.

The investigation begins

On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually high 
amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. Students 
typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn complaint 
said.

Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
“chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end Jordan 
Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of UF running 
back Jordan Scarlett.

>From there, the investigation found similar transactions from accounts 
>belonging to seven other Gators football players: Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis 
>Davis, Richerd Desir-Jones, James Houston, Ventrell Miller, Kadeem Telfort and 
>Rick Wells.

Over the next five weeks, further investigation revealed a total of 15 stolen 
credit cards, with multiple players possessing illegally obtained 
identification information from people who told investigators they had never 
met any of the nine UF players.

A timeline of fraudulent charges

Based on the criminal complaints, the fraudulent charges began at the end of 
June and spanned until mid-August.

JUNE 26 – Kadeem Telfort makes four unsuccessful attempts to add $500+ to his 
UF bookstore debit account before successfully adding $650 to his account from 
a credit card belonging to Samuel E. Nelson from Hoschton, Georgia. The next 
day, Telfort purchases a iPad from the UF bookstore for $424.94. Nelson 
disputed the charge as fraudulent, later informing investigators he did not 
know any UF students.

JUNE 30 – Rick Wells Jr. successfully adds $875 to his UF Bookstore debit 
account using a credit card belonging to Michael Smith. Later that day, Wells 
goes to the UF Bookstore and purchases two Apple iPads. The total for the order 
was $849.97. At checkout, the clerk accidentally charged Wells’ UAA scholarship 
account instead of his UF Bookstore account. Management at the store later 
contacted Wells and requested the items be returned, as he was barred from 
purchasing electronic merchandise with his UAA scholarship account. Before he 
could return the iPads, however, management informed him they charged his UF 
Bookstore account and credited his scholarship account and that he was set.

JULY 1 – Telfort adds $500 to his UF bookstore account by using a credit card 
belonging to a man

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded

2017-09-26 Thread Jay Cicone 
Helen and all. Please don’t shoot me, but I feel it is indicative of the 
culture these kids come from. Not having much and taking what you can get is an 
accepted way of life. We have a long way to go in this country.

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Helen Huntley
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 5:01 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Timeline: How Gators’ credit card 
fraud case unfolded

I know not all athletes are bright, but you have to wonder how anyone could 
directly transfer stolen funds into their personal accounts and just assume no 
one would notice. Any theft is bad, but the stupidity compounds the situation.





Sent from my iPad

On Sep 26, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Shane Ford 
> wrote:
Timeline: How Gators’ credit card fraud case unfolded
By
 Graham 
Hall
 (Gainesville SUN) -
September 26, 2017
0
17


[Image removed by sender. Suspended UF 
players]Nine
 suspended Florida football players could face felony charges. They are, top 
row from the left, Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis Davis, James Houston IV, 
Ventrell Miller and Rick Wells, and, bottom row from left, Jordan Scarlett, 
Jordan Smith, Kadeem Telfort and Richerd Desir-Jones.


The investigation into alleged credit card fraud took another step Monday when 
sworn complaint affidavits against the nine previously suspended University of 
Florida football players revealed the possibility of a combined 62 third-degree 
felony charges.

With the UPD investigation complete, the State Attorney’s office will decide 
whether to file charges against the nine Gators who racked up a combined 
$17,056.31 in fraudulent charges.

If you haven’t followed the case up to this point, this timeline, based on 
sworn complaints, will help you catch up on how the investigation began, the 
evidence outlined in the sworn affidavits and what might happen next.

The investigation begins

On Aug. 15, the University of Florida Police Department responded to an alert 
from UF Business Services Division Associate Director David Looney and 
electronic technician Michael Chambers about two students adding unusually high 
amounts (more than $1,500) to their UF bookstore pre-paid accounts. Students 
typically added $300 at most at one time for textbooks, the sworn complaint 
said.

Looney informed officers that the two accounts had also received multiple 
“chargebacks” over the previous couple months, which is when the cardholder 
disputes the charge after the purchase. Looney explained that the bookstore 
typically saw about five chargebacks a year, and any more than that raised 
eyebrows. UPD learned that one account belonged to Gators defensive end Jordan 
Smith, with the other belonging to Sarita Francis, the girlfriend of UF running 
back Jordan Scarlett.

>From there, the investigation found similar transactions from accounts 
>belonging to seven other Gators football players: Antonio Callaway, Keivonnis 
>Davis, Richerd Desir-Jones, James Houston, Ventrell Miller, Kadeem Telfort and 
>Rick Wells.

Over the next five weeks, further investigation revealed a total of 15 stolen 
credit cards, with multiple players possessing illegally obtained 
identification information from people who told investigators they had never 
met any of the nine UF players.

A timeline of fraudulent charges

Based on the criminal complaints, the fraudulent charges began at the end of 
June and spanned until mid-August.

JUNE 26 – Kadeem Telfort makes four unsuccessful attempts to add $500+ to his 
UF bookstore debit account before successfully adding $650 to his account from 
a credit card belonging to Samuel E. Nelson from Hoschton, Georgia. The next 
day, Telfort purchases a iPad from the UF bookstore for $424.94. Nelson 
disputed the charge as fraudulent, later informing investigators he did not 
know any UF students.

JUNE 30 – Rick Wells Jr. successfully adds $875 to his UF Bookstore debit 
account using a credit