RE: g_b Relation with a straight guy
Hi friend While I can empathise fully with you for being hurt - such relationships almost inevitably end up this way. A straight guy is not likely to stay with you for long however - having said that I refuse to believe that he is entirely straight otherwise he will not have any physical relationship with you even if he is indebted to you or cares for you. So cheer up - there are many more guys like him if not better. --- On Sat, 11/7/09, blue red armaan_he...@hotmail.com wrote: From: blue red armaan_he...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: g_b Relation with a straight guy To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 9:43 PM hi dear its natural fact that a boys loves with girl, i can understand your feelings from u r passing now but don't be hert dear its happen and your possessiveness is doesn't metter for him or any ne elese if u will be with him just think one on one and be happy i have also faced all this time feelings no one cares when they got a girlfriend whileas other side they also need us To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com From: sweet_anahat@ yahoo.com Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:44:52 + Subject: g_b Relation with a straight guy Hi, I wanna discuss abt different experiences of relation with straight guys. I got involved with a straight guy. I helped him a lot with his personal problems and then got attached to him. As far as I kno, he only considered me as a friend and he has attraction for girls as being straight. But later, my involvement in him went on physical level. He ingnored it initially as it was limited upto body massage. Later, it went to next stage. Then we had big argument and we stopped talkin for a while. But somehow he didn't want to lose me, so he started talkin to me and then we again went physical. Later he found a girlfriend and he said that we shod stop these things. I decided to stop everything with him and I cut all contacts with him. But, again he tried to contact me. Now, sometimes he come to me and we have physical relations. He considers it as a compramise for what I have done for him. But, its all hurting me. Somehow I started loving him. I cant see him with his girlfriend and He is also trying to get involved with her. How reliable is relation with a so called striaght guy? Suggestions r welcomed Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right from Hotmail®.
Re: g_b Mid day hoarding at Mahalaxmi
Hi Can someone send me the pic of the said hoarding... would love to see the same... Thanks... --- On Sun, 11/8/09, john ferns dlaner...@yahoo.com wrote: From: john ferns dlaner...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Mid day hoarding at Mahalaxmi To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:05 PM would have been GRRREAT if the hoarding was reproduced for ALL to see. Is there any chance of seeing that hoarding??? --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Manoj zeus200...@yahoo. com wrote: From: Manoj zeus200...@yahoo. com Subject: g_b Mid day hoarding at Mahalaxmi To: g_b gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com, gb gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com, gbag g gb_...@yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, November 7, 2009, 10:24 AM Hi for the previous one week + Mid day has carried a very bold (and seemingly supportive) boarding at Mahalaxmi -- this is just off the station showing 2 men about to kiss with a gay rights march as the backdrop and a line of 377 seconds and counting its all in here Just for the the sheer courage to put this smack on the top there - when they could have chosen any other topic to draw the eyeballs - (and the fact that the guys are really really cute) --- anyone who knows the mid day team do congratulate them. Cheers to more such (good ?) publicity. Regards Manoj New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does!
g_b GayBombay Sunday Meet on 15 November 2009 at Bandra
GayBombay Sunday Meet on 15 November 2009 at Bandra Day, Date Time: Sunday 15 November, 2009, between 6:00 to 6:30 pm (Note the change in timings) Venue: JATC (Just Around The Corner), Near St. Theresa's Church, Dr. K. B. Hedgewar Road, Bandra (West), Mumbai 400 050 (We may then move to another venue close by for an informal chat) Directions: At Bandra Station, on the WEST side, take a rickshaw to Turner Road; at Turner Road take a right at Tawaa Restaurant (you will see ICICI Bank on your left after the turn). Keep going straight for about two minutes; you will see the big blue signboard of 'JUST AROUND THE CORNER' on the left. Cover: Free Entry Note: 1. Do get your friends along to help them gain access to a group especially if they are not netizens. You do not have to be out to the world to attend. This is a discreet event being held as a clean, safe social get-together of a non-sexual nature. Hardly any of those attending are out as such. 2. You need to be at least 18 years of age to attend. 3. There may be many who will prefer being discreet or may be still be coming to terms with themselves hence a request that all be sensitive to this and act and dress accordingly. 4. Ensure that you get to JATC before 6:30 pm - the evening carries over to another gay-friendly place close by. 5. To identify the group look out for someone wearing a BLACK cap. 6. For queries, send a mail to eve...@gaybombay.org This event is organised by: http://www.gaybombay.org Right of admission reserved.image/jpeg
g_b Vikram Phukan's address to the Association Of Medical Consultants, 8th November 2009, Mumbai
*Debate Topic: Are Gay Rights here to Stay ? AMC , Mumbai , Leela Kempinski , 8th November 2009* *Proposition Panel: *Dr. Harish Shetty, Dr. Junaid Alam, Mr. Vikram Phukan *Opposition Panel:* Dr. Kushal Mittal , Dr. S.N Aggarwal , Fr. Fergoz Good evening, members of the panel, women and men. Let me be honest at the very outset. I find it very incongruous to be here defending something that I have taken for granted ALL my life. The manner in which I express my sexuality is as intrinsic to me and as natural as breathing or eating. I am not here to meet anyone halfway on a bridge of reconciliation, the facts and figures of my life cannot be altered because some people choose not to SEE who I am. For me being gay is how I'm oriented, this has been a part of my psyche for as long as I remember. To find myself, indeed to find ourselves, has sometimes been a struggle because of the lack of information and the conditioning we're subjected to. But these are NOT things you read from some pamphlet, you experience it firsthand through your own emotional responses to what's around you. Your first adrenaline-charged sexual encounter explains it a little, falling in love seals the deal. What you draw out from the cultural landscape around you marks you out as irrevocably different, or as they say in a fancy way, alternative. When you ask me why does anyone need to know about this orientation let me tell you something about the closet. Life is not meant to be lived stuffed into a cellar. It is some secret panic room defined by rejection and self-loathing. It affects our sense of self-worth, it affects the decisions we make in our life, the relationships we attempt to negotiate, our vocations in life, even the most mundane everyday things. The festering fear that breeds it envenoms your life. You harm yourself, and you harm others. 78% of Indian gay men are married to women. That seemingly overblown statistic by itself explains why the closet is such a pervasive juggernaut in this country, that it has become an urgent matter to dismantle it, so that everyone can start afresh. Article 15 of the Constitution talks about the right to happiness, the freedom from discrimination. People whose enduring physical, romantic, emotional or spiritual attractions are to people of the same gender have an unassailable right to be happy BECAUSE of that orientation. Homophobes do not hide their homophobia, therefore being open is clearly the only way to a future in which gay people cease to be second-class citizens, a stature they've only recently acquired, having been branded criminals since the turn of the last century. Yes, laws can be changed but the real battleground is the society to which we belong. We do not want to leave our homes just to be ourselves. We do not want to hide who we love. We do not want to be excommunicated, because we believe God is for everyone. You cannot get inside a person's head and take away his faith or his spiritual practice. In our enlightened times, or so we think, being a gay Muslim, or a gay Catholic shouldn't be an anachronism. God is about acceptance, faith, compassion, love. NOT man-made dogma. A person's orientation should NOT be beset with questions about morality. Being gay is a matter of biology, of science. I'm not interested to know about the so-called gay gene. But what's so difficult to understand about being born gay? What is ironical is the fact that we're discussing this in India, a country to which, as evinced by our ancient texts and scriptures, homosexuality has hardly been alien. Not just the Kamasutra or the Mahabharata, but the Puranas are rife with references to same-sex love. Why then have we been bewitched by the smoke and mirrors agenda of some outdated Victorian moral code? It's hardly surprising if you see how even sex has been relegated to a shadow existence in India. The growth of civilization, especially one that's as great as ours, should happen along progressive lines. If we were liberal once, why not again? After all, who ARE these homosexuals? Are they those flamboyant fluttery creatures who waylay you at traffic signals for a spot of change or are they just ordinary people going about their business unobtrusively? The answer is, both. Do they merely pick out dresses for brides and style hair, or are they bus-conductors, doctors, civil engineers, and dabba-wallahs? The answer is, all of these. Do they come here from the West and settle down in cosmopolitan Bombay or will you find them in Ratlam, Ranchi, Nasik or the countless mofussil towns of inner India. The answer is, all of the above. Remember what is merely visible isn't really the whole picture. *Change your stories, challenge your stereotypes*, do not be lazy. The queer people of India are an astonishingly diverse set of people. Homosexuals do not give birth to homosexuals, they are the sons and daughters of mainstream society. They are your blood, they are NOT separate from you. They contribute to
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g_b Bombay Dost Sunday High - 15 November 2009 - 'The Line of Beauty'
You are cordially invited to * * *Sunday High, 15 November 2009* 'The Line of Beauty' *A story of love, class, sex and money in the Thatcherite 1980s.* *Three episodes (of about an hour each), May 2006* We bring you this BBC mini-series based on Allan Hollinghurst's eponymous Booker winning novel after 'Angels in America' with which parallels may be drawn. The main themes of this story are class division and envy, reverse snobbery, interracial relations, drug abuse, the HIV scourge and of course homophobia. However, it's a fairly straightforward drama with some gripping moments despite a sagging middle. Synopsis: Nick Guest comes to London to live with his college friend's family, the Feddens. A short stay becomes permanent, and Nick positions himself in the family's plentiful lives of parties and politics during the Thatcher years. Over the course of three episodes spanning four years in the mid-eighties, we follow Nick's two homosexual love affairs in a time of promiscuity and carelessness, until the AIDS crisis and a bout of scandal threaten life as he has come to know it. -- *Time:* 5.00 p.m. to 8.00 p.m. One intermission during which light refreshments will be served. *Venue:* The Humsafar Trust's Drop-in Centre, 4th floor, Municipal Transit Building (Vakola Municipal Market Building), Near Raheja Point and Vakola Masjid, Santacruz (East), Mumbai. *Getting there:* It's approximately minimum fare by auto-rickshaw from Santacruz station (East). You could also take routes 311 or 313. The same routes also operate from Kurla (West) station. *Space courtesy:* The Humsafar Trust. Note: Programme subject to change without notice in unavoidable circumstances. *Keep in touch with Bombay Dost via:* The Bombay Dost Wiki (http://bombay-dost.pbworks.com/) OR The Facebook Fan Page (http://www.facebook.com/Bombay-Dosthttp://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Bombay-Dost/5281736 ) OR follow Bombaydost on Twitter (http://twitter.com/bombaydost OR subscribe to our Google SMS Channel ( http://labs.google.co.in/smschannels/subscribe/BombayDost) OR E-mail us: bombaydost2...@gmail.com
g_b Britain Ready to Admit: No Good to Reason to Ban Gay Blood Donors
Britain Ready to Admit: No Good to Reason to Ban Gay Blood Donors http://www.queerty.com/britain-ready-to-admit-no-good-to-reason-to-ban-gay-b lood-donors-20091028/ http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2009/01/donatingblood1.jpg That utterly http://www.queerty.com/gay-men-cannot-donate-blood-what-a-stupid-policy-200 90116/ retro policy that prevents gay men from donating blood? Britain is actually considering joining New Zealand, Spain, and Italy to overturn it. How come? Because as it turns out, the risk of letting men who have sex with men put their blood into a bank is effectively nil. The scare tactic used to defend the ban surrounds a heightened infection rate among gay men. So, the thinking goes, keeping gay blood out of circulation, by default, cuts down on the possibility of infecting transfusion recipients. Except all blood is screened for HIV before it's used so why keep out healthy, willing gay donors? There's http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6891256.ece no reason: While all blood donations are screened for HIV (human immunodeficiency virus), hepatitis B and C and syphilis before they can be used, very recent infections may not be detected. Health officials have argued that the only way to protect patients against this 'window' of early infections is through careful donor selection. Since 1985 only two patients have been infected with HIV through blood transfusions. Email: mailto:modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in Web Sites: http://www.gaybombay.in/ www.gaybombay.in http://www.gaybombay.info/ www.gaybombay.info http://www.gayindia.org/ www.gayindia.org E Groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay http://groups.google.com/group/Gaybombay http://groups.google.com/group/Gaybombay GB Internet Radio http://www.gaybombay.in/gbradio Gaybombay breaking news and annoucements http://labs.google.co.in/smschannels/subscribe/Gaybombay http://labs.google.co.in/smschannels/subscribe/Gaybombay Emergency Helpline number 9820565885 Orkut: http://www.orkut.co.in/Main%23Community.aspx?cmm=22091955 http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=22091955 Blogs: http://gaybombay.blogspot.com/ http://gaybombay.blogspot.com http://gaybombay.wordpress.com/ http://gaybombay.wordpress.com Twitter http://twitter.com/gaybombay http://twitter.com/gaybombay Facebook http://www.facebook.com/gaybombay facebook.com/gaybombay image001.jpg
