Re: g_b remember sections 388 and 389 IPC
Aditya, you are brilliant! On Monday, 24 November 2014 12:12 PM, Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk [gay_bombay] gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com wrote: When the Supreme Court upheld Section 377 one of the immediate reactions was that this was a shocking case of the court empowering blackmailers. Throughout its history S.377 - and similar laws across the world - has been used extremely successfully to extort money from gay men who are too scared of prosecution under the law to fight back. This is exactly what we are now seeing. From across the country cases are coming of queer people being blackmailed or harassed by threat or sometimes the actual use of S.377. Just today I have heard the most startling case where a businessman gave Rs10 lakhs because he got a letter saying that the person sending it had video evidence of him having sex with other men. One reaction that such stories sometimes get is that people who give in to blackmail deserve what they get - that (a) they should not have been stupid enough to get into the situation in the first place and (b) they should not give in, but call the blackmailer's bluff. Blackmail depends on the victim being afraid, and if you are not, it can't work. But saying this doesn't allow for the extreme loneliness that drives people to take risks, and yes, stupid risks too at times. Yes, you should be careful who you pick up and where and what you do, but its always easier to say this in hindsight. And it is also easy to be courageous when its not happening to you. When you are the one who opens an email or letter and finds not just the threat of your privacy being exposed, but the knowledge that someone is malign enough to want to do it, you can feel the bottom falling out of your world. This still does not mean one should give in to blackmail. It may be tempting to just give the money and hope it all goes away, but it never does. Blackmail is an addiction, and quite lucrative too, and blackmailers very often repeatedly keep coming back for more. And even if they don't the victim is always afraid that they, or someone else, will. So if this situation happens to you, or to someone you know, the first thing to tell them is to find a way not to be afraid. If they have family from who they fear exposure, they should ask themselves one hard fact - in the long run will the family mind more that one of them is gay or that he is giving away Rs10 lakhs, and probably even more over time. Whatever people might feel about homosexuality, they usually don't want to lose a lot of money! The second thing to tell yourself, or them, is that S.377 is not easy to prosecute. This is why the police actually does not use it very much, but prefers to use the threat of it, or more easily implementable and vague laws like 'obscene conduct' in public or drinking without a permit (which is what most people who are arrested at parties are usually prosecuted under, which is why responsible party goers get permits, and party organisers arrange for them). Proving S.377 without a doubt really requires a medical examination and this is not going to be easy to organise. Video evidence might count too - though of course there are all the arguments about video being tampered with which politicians routinely trot out! But this is one good argument not to record yourself having sex, however much this turns you on! At least one S.377 case which has been going on for a while involves recording that a husband made with his male lover which his wife got her hands on. And finally, we actually have protection from the same source that threatens us - the Indian Penal Code. Buried away in IPC are two sections, S.388 and S.389 which state that attempt to blackmail using sections of IPC as a threat, is as much of a crime as going against those sections of IPC! This perhaps recalls some residual wisdom among people, like Lord Macauley who drew up IPC, that the law can be misused and it is best to provide remedy against it. This is what Sections 388 and 389 do, and they specifically mention S.377. S.388 says that whoever extorts money by putting someone in fear of being accused of a grave crime is liable to be punished severely, and S.389 says that whoever even threatens someone with a view to extortion, will be punished severely, and both of them end by saying and, if the offence be punishable under section 377 of this Code, may be punished with 1[imprisonment for life]. It is really quite remarkable and worth reading:Section 388 in The Indian Penal CodeSection 389 in The Indian Penal Code Somehow in drafting IPC, the framers did acknowledge that S.377 in particular was liable to be abused, and hence they tried to provide some protection. Of course, the best solution is not to prosecute people for consensual same sex relations, but at least this attempt at balance does exist. The problem is that these are obscure sections of IPC and few
Re: g_b pubic hair (झाँट के बाल )
Respected Sir, I have had experience of both South and North Indian men. My experience is that if the hair on the head is curly, the hair below is curly irrespective of the man being South Indian or North Indian. Respects. On Saturday, 19 April 2014 12:51 AM, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: Is it true that the pubic hair (झाँट के बाल ) of South Indian Men is more curly (घुंगराले) than that of North Indian Men..!! I am very curious to find the truth…those with experience of both north and south Indian men, please comment…thnx.. Aditya...
Re: g_b Watch Imran Khan answer stupid questions about gay people Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/imran-khan-video-gays-lgbt-in-india-supreme-court/1/332931.html
Hilarious! Thanks for posting! And you need not post this reply if you find it irrelevant, Sir. On Thursday, 26 December 2013 11:45 PM, modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in wrote: Watch Imran Khan answer stupid questions about gay people http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/imran-khan-video-gays-lgbt-in-india-supreme-court/1/332931.html India Today Online New Delhi, December 26, 2013 | UPDATED 12:58 IST The year 2013 was the year that the LGBT communities got a slap in the face with a Supreme Court ruling that upheld section 377 and criminalised gay sex. What ensued was protests not just in India, but also abroad among the Indian LGBT communities. Many people took on the ruling on social networking sites. In the video Imran answers some very silly questions about gay people with a healthy dose of satire. Continuing the tirade against the Supreme Court's ruling, All India Bakchod, a comedy podcast site, released a video on December 25 starring Bollywood actor Imran Khan. (SCROLL DOWN TO SEE THE VIDEO) Imran answers questions such as 'I heard AIDS was invented by gay people, is it true?'. In the nearly 6-minute long video, titled Imran Khan vs Homophobia, Imran takes care of some common misconceptions about gay people with some extremely satirical answers. Understandably enough, the questions are enough to make you laugh, but they leave Imran wondering. {mosimage} Questions like why can't gay people like ... Un-gay? and I heard AIDS was invented by gay people, is it true? and How do gay people have coffee? and other misconceptions and vague ideas get put down with some typical Imran Khan expressions and satirical answers. Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/imran-khan-video-gays-lgbt-in-india-supreme-court/1/332931.html
Re: g_b No full frontal nudity, non pornographic but erotic page.
It is not a group, it is a page with erotic photos. Please kindly continue further conversation, if any, in a private message so that others are not disturbed. This is also in deference to the wishes of our esteemed Moderator. Regards. On Friday, 6 December 2013 1:42 AM, vijay kumar mark34...@yahoo.com wrote: What is specific to this group Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in; To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; Subject: g_b No full frontal nudity, non pornographic but erotic page. Sent: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 5:19:38 PM Searched and found Boy Homo page on FaceBook. Non pornographic, does not contain full frontal nudity but it does contain erotic images. Viewer discretion advised.
g_b No full frontal nudity, non pornographic but erotic page.
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Re: g_b Why is it like this?
Manoj, These are all possiblities, not hard and fast rules. Again, what I write is not and cannot be final and binding and you have every right to differ! Right? And if you differ, I accept your different opinion. Okay? Chill. Happy Divali! Happy New Year! On Sunday, 3 November 2013 11:57 PM, Manoj zeus200...@yahoo.com wrote: Now, if he is a man with more female properties, he could be gay So people like you, who are so normal that it would take the effort of having sex with you to know you are gay, are gay even if they have less of female properties? Or the female properties are so focused in one part that they out weigh the other male property during sex and hence make the person gay? And O M F G --- so if a person is completely gay and a top, he would be a campy top as he has more of female qualities. God save the Macho top. A worried, Manoj ps: cross posting From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Cc: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2013, 12:21 Subject: Re: g_b Why is it like this? Dear Rahul, Yes, you are right. There IS a difference between girlish boys and gays. In my school, in class also, we had plenty of girlish boys who all grew up, got married and have children AND ARE STILL GIRLISH! And then we also had boys like me who always were normal BUT WERE ATTRACTED TO MEN! I am gay but if you met me, you would never believe it! Only those I have had sex with know the real me. So this difference DOES exist and as you correctly said, you have to date both men and women and discover for yourself whether your are girlish but heterosexual or girlish and gay. I think it is like this because I had read a report by Hite on Male Sexuality that children are born of both men and women and are the combination of both - mother and father. Now, if he is a man with more female properties, he could be gay. Conversely, if she is a woman with more manly qualities and knows karate - don't fight with her! Hahahahahaha! All the best! Regards. On Wednesday, 30 October 2013 1:09 AM, Rahul Boob rahulb...@yahoo.in wrote: From my childhood days, I remember behaving girlish, dancing on girly numbers and decorating dolls etc. Obviously I dont do all this now. Also, from the beginning, I have felt very uncomfortable in the company of boys. Dont know about now, as I have kept myself secluded. Right now, My life has become very dull and I want to be with some guys and make friends and you know , enjoy, properly like other guys, but still this fact comes to my find, that like before, I would again feel uncomfortable , nervous and unhappy in boys' company. What is this that I am facing? How can I deal with it? I might be gay too, but I'll be confirmed about it only after I am confident about myself and have dated both boys girls! Thanks.
Re: g_b Why is it like this?
Dear Rahul, Yes, you are right. There IS a difference between girlish boys and gays. In my school, in class also, we had plenty of girlish boys who all grew up, got married and have children AND ARE STILL GIRLISH! And then we also had boys like me who always were normal BUT WERE ATTRACTED TO MEN! I am gay but if you met me, you would never believe it! Only those I have had sex with know the real me. So this difference DOES exist and as you correctly said, you have to date both men and women and discover for yourself whether your are girlish but heterosexual or girlish and gay. I think it is like this because I had read a report by Hite on Male Sexuality that children are born of both men and women and are the combination of both - mother and father. Now, if he is a man with more female properties, he could be gay. Conversely, if she is a woman with more manly qualities and knows karate - don't fight with her! Hahahahahaha! All the best! Regards. On Wednesday, 30 October 2013 1:09 AM, Rahul Boob rahulb...@yahoo.in wrote: From my childhood days, I remember behaving girlish, dancing on girly numbers and decorating dolls etc. Obviously I dont do all this now. Also, from the beginning, I have felt very uncomfortable in the company of boys. Dont know about now, as I have kept myself secluded. Right now, My life has become very dull and I want to be with some guys and make friends and you know , enjoy, properly like other guys, but still this fact comes to my find, that like before, I would again feel uncomfortable , nervous and unhappy in boys' company. What is this that I am facing? How can I deal with it? I might be gay too, but I'll be confirmed about it only after I am confident about myself and have dated both boys girls! Thanks.
Re: g_b SAFE or NOT SAFE?!
My advice would be that you remain anonymous. How do you know his account is not fake for sure? And if you know that, maybe you already also know whether he is trustworthy or not? And if you don't PLAY SAFE. Better be safe than sorry, Rahul. On Wednesday, 30 October 2013 1:06 AM, Rahul Boob rahulb...@yahoo.in wrote: How safe is it to discuss about your sexuality with some gay guy you find on the net through some gay groups on facebook ? I know that the person's account is not fake for sure !! Can he cause any kind of harm ? Or may be out your chat or something ? I am NEW to all this. So kinda worried!
Re: g_b Pls sign the petition Rajya Sabha: Dismiss the Petition to Criminalize Possession of Pornography
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Re: g_b Sad news
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Re: g_b Re: Have you ever asked your barber?
You're so funny, Aditya! Hey, from me, thanks for a hearty laugh! From: Ron Lussier rluss...@lenscraft.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; vg...@yahoo.co.uk vg...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Friday, 11 January 2013 3:09 AM Subject: Re: g_b Re: Have you ever asked your barber? You're so silly, Aditya! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Aditya adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: GET RID OF..!!??? DID YU SAY 'GET RID OF' ..!!?? Do you not have any human empathy and compassion for wildlife..!!??? I'm informing Menaka Gandhi, so that she can come and get RID of YOU Mr Samson D'Souza.. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Samson D'Souza sam...@yahoo.com wrote: Well dear friendnow you have given a way to another topic of debate ...how to get rid of crabscrabs! thats the word used for pubic lice Earlier someone else Wrote: I'm surprised though that some people seem to assume the only reason to do this is because you think smoother is sexier (and maybe more feminine, if that's the way you like it). But there's also a practical, if not exactly pleasant reason for shaving - those nasty little critters called pubic lice. Surely most people here have got them at some time, and had to resort to shaving and trying to find and pluck the creatures out (a boyfriend really helps here and it is something like a test of how close you are, because the plucking is intimate, but too painful to be erotic) and then dousing with something like Lindane?
Re: g_b ToI and Mirror - Two versions of a murder
Thank you for your response. From: Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 4 January 2013 12:49 AM Subject: g_b ToI and Mirror - Two versions of a murder Strange patronizing tone you have Mr. Fontaine. I, quite emphatically, don't know you from Adam and amn't your dear friend or even an acquaintance of yours. This is an LGBT discussion forum and hence my post on a gay murder. The world over speculation is rife when a sensational murder is reported. Obviously the actual investigations are left to law enforcement agencies. Incidentally, dear readers (lol) the murderer had tattooed the name of the guy he murdered across his chest - a subsequent news report mentions. Deep --- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Bloot Fontaine wrote: First, I think it wrong to play guessing games as to why one murdered another. BUT, my dear friend, as you HAVE asked, I might as well play along, though it does not serve any purpose. One reason PERHAPS might be that one of the two wanted a one night stand with someone attractive. The second reason is much more common, one wanted financial support from the other! Dear Readers, both my reasons are just merely guessing games and are not based on any knowledge of facts whatsoever. Please kindly do NOT take it there is even a grain of truth in my game, though of course, you are as welcome to your guesses as I have been to mine. And now, dear Deep, what do YOU think? Hugs and thanks to all my readers! Hey, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! From: Deep To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012 11:15 PM Subject: g_b ToI and Mirror - Two versions of a murder Here are two reports, one in the Mumbai edition of the Times of India (December 26, 2012) and the other in Mumbai Mirror. The report in ToI makes 21 year old Ryan Gomes as someone who forced himself sexually on Alexander D'Souza and hence got stabbed by the later. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=TOINEWBaseHref=TOIM/2012/12/26PageLabel=5EntityId=Ar00502ViewMode=HTML The report in Mumbai Mirror openly mentions a gay relationship gone wrong. (My question: Why would a gay man kill his partner for seeking sex?) http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=MIRRORNEWBaseHref=MMIR/2012/12/26PageLabel=4EntityId=Ar00400ViewMode=HTML Which of these two reports comes closest to the truth? Any opinions? Deep -Message Truncated by Blut
Re: g_b ToI and Mirror - Two versions of a murder
First, I think it wrong to play guessing games as to why one murdered another. BUT, my dear friend, as you HAVE asked, I might as well play along, though it does not serve any purpose. One reason PERHAPS might be that one of the two wanted a one night stand with someone attractive. The second reason is much more common, one wanted financial support from the other! Dear Readers, both my reasons are just merely guessing games and are not based on any knowledge of facts whatsoever. Please kindly do NOT take it there is even a grain of truth in my game, though of course, you are as welcome to your guesses as I have been to mine. And now, dear Deep, what do YOU think? Hugs and thanks to all my readers! Hey, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! From: Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2012 11:15 PM Subject: g_b ToI and Mirror - Two versions of a murder Here are two reports, one in the Mumbai edition of the Times of India (December 26, 2012) and the other in Mumbai Mirror. The report in ToI makes 21 year old Ryan Gomes as someone who forced himself sexually on Alexander D'Souza and hence got stabbed by the later. http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=TOINEWBaseHref=TOIM/2012/12/26PageLabel=5EntityId=Ar00502ViewMode=HTML The report in Mumbai Mirror openly mentions a gay relationship gone wrong. (My question: Why would a gay man kill his partner for seeking sex?) http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=MIRRORNEWBaseHref=MMIR/2012/12/26PageLabel=4EntityId=Ar00400ViewMode=HTML Which of these two reports comes closest to the truth? Any opinions? Deep -Message Truncated by Blut
Re: g_b Sarve Bhavantu Sukhin
The T - shirt has nothing vulgar, I've seen worse! I see no reason why it should offend anyone. For that matter, I also see no reason for anyone to jump to conclusions! By this I mean that if there are people you know, who you don't want to reveal your sexuality to, and if you meet up with such people when wearing this T - shirt, I see no reason for them to get any bright ideas about your sexuality. Frankly, TinTin, I've seen worse, much worse. They T-Shirts I've seen, I wonder how they can wear such T-Shirts and leave the house in the presence of their mothers and sisters! This is nothing compared to T-Shirts that say Needs Head (with headless three fingers pointing to penis) Pull chain below for instant flush The Man (Arrow pointing to face) The Legend (Arrow pointing to penis) and Soap for instant Hand Wash available here (with arrow pointing to penis). If people can wear this in front of mothers, sisters, wives and daughters of their own and other people, your T-Shirt is actually saintly by comparison, my dear friend! WISHING YOU AND ALL READERS A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR! From: Tintin Mumbai India tintin197...@gmail.com To: B G gaybom...@yahoogroups.com; gay_bombay gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012 4:54 PM Subject: g_b Sarve Bhavantu Sukhin Hello Guys, I just came across with this T-shirt on one of the Online Clothing Store, Tsort.com. Link is given below, specifically to the T-Shirt I am talking about. http://www.teesort.com/t-shirt-design-sarve-bhavantu-sukhinah The link says Sarve Bhavantu Sukhin and in addition it shows Symbols of Hetero Pair (+ -), Male Homo Pair (+ +) and Lesbian Homo Pair (- -). I found it interesting, decent, discreet yet suggestive. I would like to know if one would wear it on regular days? Not just in Gay parties, not just on Parade Day? Any Regular day... What do you say? Abhay --- Reuse Paper by Both Sided Printing
Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men
Interesting. I have only known Indian men. Thank you for your global perspective. Wish you lots more luck! All the Best! Regards. From: Manoj zeus200...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 31 October 2012 11:56 PM Subject: Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men I do not really agree to this generalization Given the fact that many of indians will be having sex just to get off and after finding a release suddenly have a tidal wave of guilt/ shame/ wrong doing wash over this is not something way different than any other individuals in similar setups. Over the last 2 years in US (and living in boystown at that), i have heard as may cases and complaints of (white )guys who will not kiss, make out or do anything other than the mere act of fucking and then disappear the moment they are done. What you see in films and movies about the great western sexual prowess is most often than not just as true as the fact that our bollywood hero. The act of experimenting and wanting to pleasure the other guy is something that is learned over a period of time when a person gets comfortable with himself/herself . So we are looking at 2 impacts of the closeted and guilt ridden lives of many indian gay men and arriving at a spurious correlation is my strong belief. Over my not -few-years of being around I have known men from different races (I hope my bf does not read/hold this against me :( ) and i had a different view Did i end up just lucky or you unlucky? In either case, it would hardly be a commentary on gay indian men Cheers Manoj From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 11:07 Subject: Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men Agree whole heartedly with the author. Found a lover EXACTLY like this from this group, tried very hard and tolerated him for THREE years. Glad to be rid of him when I finally came to my senses and realised how much I was being exploited in the name of love, including financial exploitation. Hope Ashley Tellis' letter at least gets readers to think. All the Best and thank you, Ashley! From: gaybombay modera...@gaybombay.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 2:36 PM Subject: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men By Ashley Tellis | Agency: DNA One of the best kept secrets about gay life in India is that almost all gay sex here is lousy. I have to report that I have never had decent sex here, and I don't think I ever will. Apart from the fact that Indians in general are lousy at sex and have all sorts of weird hang-ups about it, gay sex here has a particular set of sicknesses associated with it. So, Indian men who want to and do have gay sex also have no qualms about being disgusted by it and doing it badly. Culture legitimises that. Frequently, one comes across men online who will tell you that they don't kiss. They want to be sucked, they only want to f--- you and, increasingly, want to be rimmed too. They say this with no irony and no self-reflexivity whatsoever and actually get offended when you tell them to go find a dog or f--- a wall instead. Or when you tell them that something is wrong when they want you to lick their a--- but they won't lick your face. Or speak of how important kissing is to sex. `Tops' (by which is meant the most pathetic imitation of missionary heterosexual positions) don't suck, of course. They only want to be sucked. This is a given. Men on websites call themselves `pure tops'. They are really anxious that you come nowhere near their a--- and, of course, are not interested at all in examining that anxiety. They expect bottoms not only to be submissive and meek but have no penises, no orgasms, no needs, no sexual desires other than to fulfil the desires of the tops. Anal sex is a brutal affair and many of my gay friends have ruptured anuses, fissures, and damaged sphincters, and seem to take it as par for the course. High on alcohol, poppers, hash and other stuff, `bottoms' seem not to care about their own bodies, or indeed about sex as something pleasurable, gentle and meaningful. It is only about being stuffed and pounded and hence the need for all the external intoxicants. Tops, once they come, rush to the bathroom to wash and then rush out of the house without so much as a by-your-leave, let alone a goodbye kiss. All of a sudden they are disgusted by what they have done and want the hell out. It is just a matter of release, like they have pissed and now need to leave the pissoir. I have recently begun seeing a man who calls himself gay, claims to be interested in an emotional relationship with a man, and is looking for a monogamous partner. This is the e-mail I had to send him after our first attempt at sex: Dear
Re: g_b apologies
Thanks for everything you are doing for us! We love you, Sir! And love means not having to say sorry! From: gaybombay modera...@gaybombay.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 2 November 2012 1:38 PM Subject: g_b apologies hi by mistake, i approved porn/adult content email ( everyday they come in dozens). i apologies for the mistake. i have deleted from the list. regards moderator
Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men
I think you mean naive not knave? All the Best! From: uday krishnan m1u9...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:43 AM Subject: Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men I fully advocate the views of Ashley, and find that more and more of such breed are on the net, and many of them are so commercial in their approach that they prefer to have all these services rendered to them alone and nothing in return. And it is an apathy to find that some of them have different rules with different people, of course its one's choice I do not mean to say that one should not use one's discretion, but are we so knave as a fraternity that we apply such discrimination ? From: gaybombay modera...@gaybombay.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 2:36 PM Subject: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men By Ashley Tellis | Agency: DNA One of the best kept secrets about gay life in India is that almost all gay sex here is lousy. I have to report that I have never had decent sex here, and I don't think I ever will. Apart from the fact that Indians in general are lousy at sex and have all sorts of weird hang-ups about it, gay sex here has a particular set of sicknesses associated with it. So, Indian men who want to and do have gay sex also have no qualms about being disgusted by it and doing it badly. Culture legitimises that. Frequently, one comes across men online who will tell you that they don't kiss. They want to be sucked, they only want to f--- you and, increasingly, want to be rimmed too. They say this with no irony and no self-reflexivity whatsoever and actually get offended when you tell them to go find a dog or f--- a wall instead. Or when you tell them that something is wrong when they want you to lick their a--- but they won't lick your face. Or speak of how important kissing is to sex. `Tops' (by which is meant the most pathetic imitation of missionary heterosexual positions) don't suck, of course. They only want to be sucked. This is a given. Men on websites call themselves `pure tops'. They are really anxious that you come nowhere near their a--- and, of course, are not interested at all in examining that anxiety. They expect bottoms not only to be submissive and meek but have no penises, no orgasms, no needs, no sexual desires other than to fulfil the desires of the tops. Anal sex is a brutal affair and many of my gay friends have ruptured anuses, fissures, and damaged sphincters, and seem to take it as par for the course. High on alcohol, poppers, hash and other stuff, `bottoms' seem not to care about their own bodies, or indeed about sex as something pleasurable, gentle and meaningful. It is only about being stuffed and pounded and hence the need for all the external intoxicants. Tops, once they come, rush to the bathroom to wash and then rush out of the house without so much as a by-your-leave, let alone a goodbye kiss. All of a sudden they are disgusted by what they have done and want the hell out. It is just a matter of release, like they have pissed and now need to leave the pissoir. I have recently begun seeing a man who calls himself gay, claims to be interested in an emotional relationship with a man, and is looking for a monogamous partner. This is the e-mail I had to send him after our first attempt at sex: Dear middle-class Indian man, Before we take our relationship further (if you want to), I want to state that you have to change as a lover and become more responsive and more attentive to the person you are in bed with and might be in a relationship with. Here's an indication of how selfish you were in bed: You came thrice and did not bother to ask me if I came even once. You did not ask me what I like or what I find pleasurable. You did not rim me but wanted to f--- me (which any lover attentive to his lover's needs would do). You did not suck my c--- or even offer to masturbate me if you are not used to sucking. You did not kiss me enough, did not let me put my fingers in your mouth while I was sucking you. You were only directed at your own needs — the need to get your c--- sucked, the need to f--- my a---. Despite telling you that I am an anal virgin and you have to be slow and gentle, you were impatient, rough, thrusting and insensitive. This is not the way to treat another human being in bed with you. The other person also has needs, desires, pleasures. You have to make an attempt to share bodies, and not just selfishly have your way. You are a typical, selfish and insensitive Indian man and that does not allow for a healthy, mutually respectful relationship. Please reflect on all this if we have to have a future. Best, This is why I don't have sex for years sometimes and I'm still an anal virgin in my
Re: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men
Agree whole heartedly with the author. Found a lover EXACTLY like this from this group, tried very hard and tolerated him for THREE years. Glad to be rid of him when I finally came to my senses and realised how much I was being exploited in the name of love, including financial exploitation. Hope Ashley Tellis' letter at least gets readers to think. All the Best and thank you, Ashley! From: gaybombay modera...@gaybombay.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2012 2:36 PM Subject: g_b The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men The bad sex award goes to gay Indian men By Ashley Tellis | Agency: DNA One of the best kept secrets about gay life in India is that almost all gay sex here is lousy. I have to report that I have never had decent sex here, and I don't think I ever will. Apart from the fact that Indians in general are lousy at sex and have all sorts of weird hang-ups about it, gay sex here has a particular set of sicknesses associated with it. So, Indian men who want to and do have gay sex also have no qualms about being disgusted by it and doing it badly. Culture legitimises that. Frequently, one comes across men online who will tell you that they don't kiss. They want to be sucked, they only want to f--- you and, increasingly, want to be rimmed too. They say this with no irony and no self-reflexivity whatsoever and actually get offended when you tell them to go find a dog or f--- a wall instead. Or when you tell them that something is wrong when they want you to lick their a--- but they won't lick your face. Or speak of how important kissing is to sex. `Tops' (by which is meant the most pathetic imitation of missionary heterosexual positions) don't suck, of course. They only want to be sucked. This is a given. Men on websites call themselves `pure tops'. They are really anxious that you come nowhere near their a--- and, of course, are not interested at all in examining that anxiety. They expect bottoms not only to be submissive and meek but have no penises, no orgasms, no needs, no sexual desires other than to fulfil the desires of the tops. Anal sex is a brutal affair and many of my gay friends have ruptured anuses, fissures, and damaged sphincters, and seem to take it as par for the course. High on alcohol, poppers, hash and other stuff, `bottoms' seem not to care about their own bodies, or indeed about sex as something pleasurable, gentle and meaningful. It is only about being stuffed and pounded and hence the need for all the external intoxicants. Tops, once they come, rush to the bathroom to wash and then rush out of the house without so much as a by-your-leave, let alone a goodbye kiss. All of a sudden they are disgusted by what they have done and want the hell out. It is just a matter of release, like they have pissed and now need to leave the pissoir. I have recently begun seeing a man who calls himself gay, claims to be interested in an emotional relationship with a man, and is looking for a monogamous partner. This is the e-mail I had to send him after our first attempt at sex: Dear middle-class Indian man, Before we take our relationship further (if you want to), I want to state that you have to change as a lover and become more responsive and more attentive to the person you are in bed with and might be in a relationship with. Here's an indication of how selfish you were in bed: You came thrice and did not bother to ask me if I came even once. You did not ask me what I like or what I find pleasurable. You did not rim me but wanted to f--- me (which any lover attentive to his lover's needs would do). You did not suck my c--- or even offer to masturbate me if you are not used to sucking. You did not kiss me enough, did not let me put my fingers in your mouth while I was sucking you. You were only directed at your own needs — the need to get your c--- sucked, the need to f--- my a---. Despite telling you that I am an anal virgin and you have to be slow and gentle, you were impatient, rough, thrusting and insensitive. This is not the way to treat another human being in bed with you. The other person also has needs, desires, pleasures. You have to make an attempt to share bodies, and not just selfishly have your way. You are a typical, selfish and insensitive Indian man and that does not allow for a healthy, mutually respectful relationship. Please reflect on all this if we have to have a future. Best, This is why I don't have sex for years sometimes and I'm still an anal virgin in my forties. I hope lesbians and trannies are having better sex, but somehow I doubt it. Homophobia and Indian culture (let's not blame the Brits for our sickening conceptions of sex as dirty) have ruined our sex lives. That is where the revolution should start. When we refuse bad sex and fight for the right to good sex.
Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban
Thank you very much. So nice of you to take the trouble! From: usjerzeeboy usjerzee...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012 7:13 PM Subject: Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Good Evening... Please note that the actual sentence is, ...gay marriages are again not only allowed in California, (AND) ...my addition for clarity's sake... the legitimacy of all the marriages solemnised before the Prop-8 vote are now confirmed. The confusion is the result of the formatting of that particular section of text. The sentence means that once again (as they were prior to Prop-8) gay marriages are legal and that any marriages performed before Prop-8 came into place are indeed leagl and valid. Hope this explanation conveys the meaning you wanted to see. A Reader in Singapore From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 3:09 PM Subject: Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Respected Sir, You write at the end of the first paragraph With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed! Possibly some slip of tongue? May I request you to please kindly take the trouble to re-write that sentence, conveying the meaning it should convey? Thanking you in anticipation, with apologies for the trouble. From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012 1:29 AM Subject: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Proposition 8, a measure that by ballot (popular vote) overturned the legislation allowing gay marriage in the sate of California, USA, has been struck down by the federal appeals court. With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed i n California, the legitimacy of all the marriages solemnised before the Prop-8 vote are now confirmed. But the brigade in opposition to gay marriage refuse to give up, and now propose to take the matter to the US Supreme Court. The fight goes on.. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/31/gay-marriage-ban-backers-seek-supreme-court-review/
Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban
Sorry! I think I misread in a hurry but the sentence seems to have broken up in the wrong place, in the middle of the word in. Okay, got it now. From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Respected Sir, You write at the end of the first paragraph With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed! Possibly some slip of tongue? May I request you to please kindly take the trouble to re-write that sentence, conveying the meaning it should convey? Thanking you in anticipation, with apologies for the trouble. From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012 1:29 AM Subject: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Proposition 8, a measure that by ballot (popular vote) overturned the legislation allowing gay marriage in the sate of California, USA, has been struck down by the federal appeals court. With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed i n California, the legitimacy of all the marriages solemnised before the Prop-8 vote are now confirmed. But the brigade in opposition to gay marriage refuse to give up, and now propose to take the matter to the US Supreme Court. The fight goes on.. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/31/gay-marriage-ban-backers-seek-supreme-court-review/
Re: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban
Respected Sir, You write at the end of the first paragraph With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed! Possibly some slip of tongue? May I request you to please kindly take the trouble to re-write that sentence, conveying the meaning it should convey? Thanking you in anticipation, with apologies for the trouble. From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012 1:29 AM Subject: g_b Prop-8 overturned; Gay marriage foes ask Supreme Court to uphold California ban Proposition 8, a measure that by ballot (popular vote) overturned the legislation allowing gay marriage in the sate of California, USA, has been struck down by the federal appeals court. With this, gay marriages are again not only allowed i n California, the legitimacy of all the marriages solemnised before the Prop-8 vote are now confirmed. But the brigade in opposition to gay marriage refuse to give up, and now propose to take the matter to the US Supreme Court. The fight goes on.. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/31/gay-marriage-ban-backers-seek-supreme-court-review/
Re: g_b party permits
Dear Mr. Tintin, The official place to procure a one day or any other permit in MUMBAI is near Old Customs House, Horniman Circle, Mumbai. I am really not sure how much a one day permit would cost, but it would be less than one hundred rupees. Please do keep necessary identification handy. Passport, driving licence, MTNL latest paid phone bill, Income Tax Permanent Account Number (P.A.N.) Card, Rent receipt, Voter Identity Card etc. are some of the documents accepted by the people issuing permits. I do not know what the exact name of the office is, but either others on this list will provide more valuable information in detail or you can check in some govt. office in that building or from people hanging about aimlessly outside. Ya, there are always people hanging about aimlessly everywhere in Mera Bharat Mahaan! Hahahahaha! Regards. From: Tintin Mumbai India tintin197...@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 11:42 PM Subject: Re: g_b party permits Just a serious query Which are the places, other than officials, where one can get temporary permits? One Day Permit? and How much it costs? Abhay On 5/25/12, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Sir, a few years ago, (say approximately five years ago) I could get a permit even from a wine shop without the queue etc. by paying double. I would go to a wine shop, pay six hundred rupees for three years and go away. As the shop was near my office, I went again on any Wednesday. That was the day the Excise Officer visited that particular wine shop. He would see me and give the permit right away. If you have the money, you can have the convenience of getting a permit through the wine shop, if this method is still prevalent. And yes, it is ENCOURAGING corruption. Sorry about that. Regards. From: Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 3:56 PM Subject: g_b party permits This report from the Times of India about the fall out from the rave party in Juhu today confirms what GB has been saying for a long time now, which is that if you are going regularly to parties it is best to get a permit. For those who don't know what this is, its a rather absurd document that originated in the days when prohibtion was taken seriously, but now is retained essentially as a money making racket for the excise department. It says that the person holding the permit is allowed to consume alcohol for health reasons - basically, saying that you are a licensed alcoholic! The permit is also used as a convenient way for the police to book people from parties. If they can't find any other way to book you, they can usually book you for not having a permit, since almost no one does. And the fact that you may not drink doesn't really make a difference, since they will argue you need to have a permit just to be in a place where alcohol is being served. Its an incredibly stupid and oppressive law, but this combined utility to excise and police means its not going to disappear anytime soon. So if you are going to parties regularly it is really best that you get one. You can get single day permits, and sometimes at GB we can arrange with restaurants to take care of this, but not all venues agree to do this, and in general its best that you have one (I carry mine with me all the time). Some big liquor shops will help you with this (usually the day permits), and if you're a member of a private club they often do this for members. If not you can go to any excise office and do it. You can get single, annual or lifetime permits and I think the latter cost around Rs1200/-, but if you can afford it, you should just do it. If a party does get raided and the police try booking people for not having permits, it might just help you to walk away. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Ravegoers-face-6-months-jail-for-drinking-liquor/articleshow/13402212.cms MUMBAI: The police have decided to invoke provisions of the Bombay Prohibition Act in the case of the Juhu rave. All those patrons proven to have consumed alcohol at the Sunday night party at Oakwood Premier Hotel will now be booked for drinking without permits. Further turning on the heat, the Juhu police have recommended the cancellation of the police licences granted to the hotel. Ninety-one partygoers were detained by the police from Oakwood on Sunday and sent to hospitals for collection of urine and blood samples. The tests will confirm how many of the people attending the party were drunk. Our officers are scrutinizing the reports and those found positive will be slapped with the Bombay Prohibition Act, said deputy commissioner of police Pratap Dighavkar on Tuesday. Under the act, any person who consumes alcohol without
Re: g_b party permits
Sir, a few years ago, (say approximately five years ago) I could get a permit even from a wine shop without the queue etc. by paying double. I would go to a wine shop, pay six hundred rupees for three years and go away. As the shop was near my office, I went again on any Wednesday. That was the day the Excise Officer visited that particular wine shop. He would see me and give the permit right away. If you have the money, you can have the convenience of getting a permit through the wine shop, if this method is still prevalent. And yes, it is ENCOURAGING corruption. Sorry about that. Regards. From: Vikram D vg...@yahoo.co.uk To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012 3:56 PM Subject: g_b party permits This report from the Times of India about the fall out from the rave party in Juhu today confirms what GB has been saying for a long time now, which is that if you are going regularly to parties it is best to get a permit. For those who don't know what this is, its a rather absurd document that originated in the days when prohibtion was taken seriously, but now is retained essentially as a money making racket for the excise department. It says that the person holding the permit is allowed to consume alcohol for health reasons - basically, saying that you are a licensed alcoholic! The permit is also used as a convenient way for the police to book people from parties. If they can't find any other way to book you, they can usually book you for not having a permit, since almost no one does. And the fact that you may not drink doesn't really make a difference, since they will argue you need to have a permit just to be in a place where alcohol is being served. Its an incredibly stupid and oppressive law, but this combined utility to excise and police means its not going to disappear anytime soon. So if you are going to parties regularly it is really best that you get one. You can get single day permits, and sometimes at GB we can arrange with restaurants to take care of this, but not all venues agree to do this, and in general its best that you have one (I carry mine with me all the time). Some big liquor shops will help you with this (usually the day permits), and if you're a member of a private club they often do this for members. If not you can go to any excise office and do it. You can get single, annual or lifetime permits and I think the latter cost around Rs1200/-, but if you can afford it, you should just do it. If a party does get raided and the police try booking people for not having permits, it might just help you to walk away. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Ravegoers-face-6-months-jail-for-drinking-liquor/articleshow/13402212.cms MUMBAI: The police have decided to invoke provisions of the Bombay Prohibition Act in the case of the Juhu rave. All those patrons proven to have consumed alcohol at the Sunday night party at Oakwood Premier Hotel will now be booked for drinking without permits. Further turning on the heat, the Juhu police have recommended the cancellation of the police licences granted to the hotel. Ninety-one partygoers were detained by the police from Oakwood on Sunday and sent to hospitals for collection of urine and blood samples. The tests will confirm how many of the people attending the party were drunk. Our officers are scrutinizing the reports and those found positive will be slapped with the Bombay Prohibition Act, said deputy commissioner of police Pratap Dighavkar on Tuesday. Under the act, any person who consumes alcohol without a valid permit is punishable under section 66 (1)(b) and can face imprisonment of up to six months and/or a fine of Rs 10,000. When the detainees were escorted to hospitals, they were asked to produce identity proof and liquor permits. But most of them did not have any permits, said Dighavkar.
Re: g_b For Mother's Day
Superb! Thank you for sharing. From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2012 6:39 AM Subject: g_b For Mother's Day Mothers The young mother set her foot on the path of life. Is this the long way? she asked. And the guide said: Yes, and the way is hard. And you will be old before you reach the end of it. But the end will be better than the beginning.” But the young mother was happy, and she would not believe that anything could be better than these years. So she played with her children, and gathered flowers for them along the way, and bathed them in the clear streams; and the sun shone on them, and the young Mother cried, Nothing will ever be lovelier than this. Then the night came, and the storm, and the path was dark, and the children shook with fear and cold, and the mother drew them close and covered them with her mantle, and the children said, Mother, we are not afraid, for you are near, and no harm can come to us. And the morning came, and there was a hill ahead, and the children climbed and grew weary, and the mother was weary. But at all times she said to the children, A little patience and we are there. So the children climbed, and when they reached the top they said, Mother, we would not have done it without you. And the mother, when she lay down at night looked up at the stars and said, This is a better day than the last, for my children have learned fortitude in the face of hardness. Yesterday I gave them courage. Today, I have given them strength. And the next day came strange clouds which, darkened the earth, clouds of war and hate and evil, and the children groped and stumbled, and the mother said: “Look up. Lift your eyes to the light. And the children looked and saw above the clouds an everlasting glory! , and it guided them beyond the darkness. And that night the Mother said, This is the best day of all, for I have shown my children God. And the days went on, and the weeks and the months and the years, and the mother grew old and she was little and bent. But her children were tall and strong, and walked with courage. And when the way was rough, they lifted her, for she was as light as a feather; and at last they came to a hill, and beyond they could see a shining road and golden gates flung wide. And mother said: I have reached the end of my journey. And now I know the end is better than the beginning, for my children can walk alone, and their children after them. And the children said, You will always walk with us, Mother, even when you have gone through the gates. And they stood and watched her as she went on alone, and the gates closed after her. And they said: We cannot see her, but she is with us still. A Mother like ours is more than a memory. She is a living presence. MAY WE NEVER TAKE OUR MOTHERS FOR GRANTED.
g_b Hooker in Las Vegas
A guy is walking the strip in Las Vegas and a fantastic-looking Vegas hooker catches his eye. He strikes up a conversation and eventually asks the hooker, How much do you charge? The Hooker replies, It starts at $500 for a hand-job. The guy says,$500 dollars! For a hand-job! Holy crap! No hand-job is worth that kind of money! The hooker says, Do you see that Denny's on the corner? Yes. Do you see the Denny's about a block further down? Yes. And beyond that, do you see that third Denny's? Yes. Well, says the hooker, smiling invitingly, I own those..And I own them because I give a hand-job that's worth $500. So the guy says, What the hell? You only live once.. I'll give it a try.. They retire to a nearby motel. A short time later, the guy is sitting on the bed realizing that he has just experienced the hand-job of a lifetime, worth every bit of $500. He is so amazed, he says, I suppose a blow-job is $1,000? The hooker replies, $1,500. I wouldn't pay that for a blow-job! The hooker replies, Step over here to the window, big boy. Do you see that casino just across the street? I own that casino outright. And I own it because I give a blow-job that's worth every cent of $1,500. The guy, basking in the afterglow of that terrific hand-job, decides to put off the new car for another year or so and says, Sign me up. Ten minutes later, he is sitting on the bed more amazed than before.He can scarcely believe it but he feels he truly got his money's worth. He decides to dip into the retirement savings for one glorious and unforgettable experience. He asks the hooker, How much for some pussy? The hooker says, Come over here to the window, I want to show you something. Do you see how the whole city of Las Vegas is laid out before us: All those beautiful lights, gambling palaces, and shows?Damn! the guy says, in awe, You own the whole city? No, the hooker replies, but I would... if I had a pussy.
Re: g_b Need Help Please
Hi Style Me! The true meaning of gay has changed. Originally, it meant happy. Today, it means sex with a person of the same sex. I am not sure if this is a dictionary definition. The second question of tumne kitne logo ke saath sex kara hai is personal and I see no need to reply to it. You are welcome and free to debate further or avoid debating further, but please kindly grant your critics also the same liberty. It is for each person to decide for himself as to whether he wants to debate further with you or not and for how long. Style Me, if you comprehend, you comprehend. If you don't, then no amount of discussion will change things and I see no point in endless discussions. Regards. Subko sanmati de Bhagwan. From: style me style_m...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 6:23 PM Subject: Re: g_b Need Help Please Here everyone is teaching me a lesson of morality, but i want to know one thing, what is mean by gay? Tell me the true meaning of gay. After letting know answer of my question i will further continue this debate. And also every one who read this massage tell me Ki tumne abhi tak kitne logo ke sath sex kara hai --- On Sun, 3/4/12, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: g_b Need Help Please To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 4, 2012, 10:11 PM Dear Deep, Someone posted on my FB wall something that is relevant to this sordid correspondence. If you succeeded in cheating someone, do not think that the other person is a fool. Realize that the person trusted you much more than you deserved. From: Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:53 PM Subject: g_b Need Help Please Mr. Style Me, It is difficult for me to type Hindi words on an English keyboard but let me try. Mera cuteboy andheri1 ko diya hua jawaab ko parho aur samjho. Tum bisexual ho aur mai gay hoon. Hum dono ko upar vaale ne rachi hai. Mai tumhe isliye nahi dhikkaar raha hoon ke tum bisexual ho, balki isliye ki tum ek dagaabaaz, dhokebaaz aur gaddaar ho. Tum ek aurat ke jasbaaton se khel rahe ho. Tum apnee biwi ke tumpar viswaas ka faydaa utha rahe ho. Kya tum apnee biwi ko paraaye mardon ke saath sone ke liye chorh doge? Kya tum use kahoge, Darling! mujhe woh mard bahut achcha lagtaa hai, mai to uske saath sone jaa raahaa hoon. Tum bhi aao naa, mazaa looto!. Kaho Style Me? Yeh suggestion kaisee lagee? Tum bisexual ho, achcha hai - tumhaare dates milne ke chances dugne ho gaye. Lekin tumne shaadi kyon ki? Tumhe ek dagaabaaz hone ke liye mai katoo shabdon me dhikkaartaa hoon. I am sure you sleep around with gay men without telling them that you are actually married and bisexual. That, Style Me, is what also makes you a scumbag. Deep--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, style me style_me92@... wrote: Mujhko samaj me nahi aa raha hai ki aap log problem ka solution de rehe ho ya mere bare me comments de rehe ho. Koi bhi problem ka solution nahi de reha balki maine jo bat batai hai usko apne hisab se manipulate karke mujhko suggestion diye ja rehe hai. Mai deep se kahna chauga ki bahut sare log bi hote hai jo male aur female ke sath sex karte hai, to kya tumhare hisab se unko logo ko bhi apne bete aur beti ke sath sex karna chahiye, tumhare soch per taras aata hai. Kuch log ise bhi milege jo straight hote hai per sadi hone ke bad male to male sex karte hai to kya iska matlab ye to nahi hua ki wo bhi apne bete ya beti ke sath sex kare. Aur aakhir me mai ek bat kahuga ki kuch log straight hote hai, kuch gay aur kuch bi. Aur mai bi hu. Aur lagta hai ki deep tum cheep minded ho ki jo tum mere ko is tarah ka suggestion de rehe ho, tumhari bato se to lagta hai ki kisi bhi gay ko sadi nahi karni chahiye, aur agar karni pade to apni biwi ke sath sex na kare warna usko apne bete aur beti ke sath bhi sex karna padega. --- On Thu, 3/1/12, aaditya2106@... aaditya2106@... wrote: From: aaditya2106@... aaditya2106@... Subject: Re: g_b Need Help Please To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 11:11 PM  I stand by what Deep said. And I think, though sarcastic, he made perfect sense. Would love to know if style me is up for all the suggestions made by Deep. AadiSent on my BlackBerry® from VodafoneFrom: cuteboy andheriguy1@... Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:50:36 -0800 (PST)To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.comgay_bombay@yahoogroups.comReplyTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: g_b Need Help Please  Deep aapne saari bharaas is gareeb per nikal diyahope u feeling better now From: Deep gaymanproud31@... To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012, 1:16 Subject: Re: g_b Need Help Please  Dear Style Me, While we debate morality in its various forms, you have
Re: g_b i m confused
Thanks for a hearty laugh, first thing today son! Fun on the net is common in all countries, my dear! So long as you enjoy, you do not cheat anyone of money or break someone's heart, chatting and pretending to be a chick is cool, man, just cool! The net has always had the caution of Caveat Emptor or Buyers beware or Chat at your own risk. You are not bad, son, you are just another little monkey! Hugs. From: harrykrumpotter harrykrumpot...@yahoo.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 4:02 PM Subject: g_b i m confused i don know whether i should share here or not but i need to say few things to someone n get some relief, i m a 21y old student, i m bicurious,, i m afraid thinking about my parents if they come to know about it i dont know whether it is getting really common in india or not, and i have a bad habit, for which i feel very guilty but still cant control it, i try to chat wit people in internet disguising as a girl, i feel very bad about but cant control i think i m very bad :( pls help me to stop chatting like this i m hoping to get few replies, take care
Re: g_b [Mumbai Mirror] Sex pest and habitual wife-beater
Dear Deep, I would opine that he deserves punishment BECAUSE HE USED FORCE. Had there been consent, punishment would be uncalled for. Like the old Hindi proverb says Miyan biwi raaji to kya karega kaazi! From: Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2012 12:25 PM Subject: g_b [Mumbai Mirror] Sex pest and habitual wife-beater The more things change, the more they stay the same - French novelist Alphonse Karr Here's an article in today's edition of Mumbai Mirror which rightfully condemns Mr. Sandeep Chamadia for offenses like wife-beating, having forcible intercourse with her without her consent, etc. Yet the words unnatural sex stand out in the article. Sandeep has even been booked under section 377, among other sections. Should Sandeep be punished by the law because of he indulged in sodomy or all those other offenses? To the mind of the common man his unnaturalness will hold sway, perhaps with a conclusion like, these sodomizers are all the same - pests. What do you think? Deep Source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=MIRRORNEWBaseHref=MMIR/2012/03/04PageLabel=4EntityId=Ar00400ViewMode=HTML `He is a sex pest and habitual wife-beater' Senior banker held after second wife files police complaint alleging that the porn addict abused her, forced her into having unnatural sex and filmed the entire act by Bapu.Deedwania at timesgroup dot com Four years after a bitter divorce, Rita subscribed to a matrimony portal, looking for a new start. Through the web site, she seemed to have met the perfect partner in Sandeep R Chamadia – a divorcee whose wife cheated on him, and a successful banker working as operational risk manager with a leading bank. The couple tied the knot amid much fanfare on February 16, 2010. But Rita's dreams of a happily-ever-after came crashing down within days. The perfect husband, the 35-yearold has alleged, turned out to be a porn addict, who showed her obscene videos and forced her into performing unnatural sexual acts with him. The obscene acts were filmed and frequent dowry demands were made. All forms of resistance from her were dealt with physical and mental abuse, and threats of making the film public. On February 6, ten days before their second wedding anniversary, she had lodged a complaint against Chamadia with the Charkop police station. The police have arrested the banker and booked him under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) which deals with unnatural offences. After Chamadia's anticipatory bail plea was rejected by the Sessions Court in Dindoshi as well as Bombay High Court, the Borivali magistrate court on Saturday sent him to police custody. The Charkop resident has also been booked under IPC sections 498-A and 406 (causing physical, verbal and mental abuse, and Prohibition of Dowry Act respectively), Rita's lawyers Prashant Parasurampuria and Milan Desai said. After the FIR was registered, Sandeep and his parents applied for anticipatory bail on the grounds that Rita is falsely accusing them and used to constantly nag him and his old parents. While the Dindoshi Sessions court allowed bail to his father, it rejected the plea of Sandeep and his mother, who has been accused of seeking dowry. Sandeep then went missing but was arrested on Friday afternoon, and a Borivili court sent him to police custody. `HE LIED ABOUT FIRST WIFE' Rita in her complaint (copy available with Mumbai Mirror) stated that Chamadia had lied to her about the cause of his first divorce. He had said that his first wife was involved with another guy. When he came to know the truth, they amicably parted ways. However two months ago, the complaint said, Rita met the parents of the first wife. They told me that Sandeep was a porn addict by nature and he used to forcefully perform explicit sex acts with their daughter too. He also tortured her physically and mentally when she refused. They had to pay him money for rescuing their daughter from this monster. He also started blackmailing her by threatening to upload a film if she refused. They said that they couldn't let their daughter suffer any longer and mutually settled the matter, Rita stated in her complaint. The complaint also stated that Rita's parents had given the Chamadia family Rs 4 lakh and valuables, including gold, worth Rs 27 lakh as dowry. Rita further alleged that after the wedding, her in-laws made additional demands of Rs 8 lakh as dowry, which were met by her parents. But even that wasn't enough. On February 2 , the complaint stated, Rita's in-laws threw her out of their Charkop residence, following which she filed a complaint with the Charkop police on February 6. Rita said that at first she lodged a complaint for mental and physical harassment in the matrimonial home because she `could not muster the courage' to give
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Re: g_b YouTube - Help required
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Re: g_b 10 years, 21,000+ members, 35,257 posts.. Gay_Bombay Report Card
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Re: g_b FW: Spanish man and Indian man trying to get married in Spain
Sir, The best advice on this subject would be the reply from some qualified advocate on the group, but maybe, perhaps, I might be able to help by suggesting a trick or two. India is a diverse country and so divided, that it would be possible to play this trick and get away with it. Let us suppose your partner is from Assam, North India. You COULD publish the news in some Tamilian newspaper in South India! You would have published the news in an Indian newspaper, some small time paper would publish it because they are getting money for the ad and they are not bothered about what happens in another country because you are getting married in Spain, not India and thereby you are not violating any Indian Law AND the South Indians would be least bothered about what is happening in Assam! Similarly, if he is Gujrati, you publish in some newspaper in Bengal! Those who know him will not see the news and those who do not know him will be too far away to take the trouble to make a trip just to harass him. As for the parents, the reason they are asking is to make sure that he is not married in India. Well, maybe they will accept an affidavit filed by an advocate before a notary public or something but you need to check with an advocate on this. Wish you both all the best! Regards and God Bless! From: modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 December 2011 12:32 AM Subject: g_b FW: Spanish man and Indian man trying to get married in Spain -Original Message- From: as...@asierreguera.net [mailto:as...@asierreguera.net] Sent: 27 December 2011 22:48 To: modera...@gaybombay.in Subject: Spanish man and Indian man trying to get married in Spain Hello, My name is Asier. I´m a Spanish living in Spain and my boyfriend is an Indian living in India, we met when I was living in India in 2009. Last year we decided to get married and started the process: it has taken us exactly one year to get all the documents we were asked, and last week I went to the council (or Civil Registry) in Barcelona to hand in the application and all the documents, validated with the Apostille de la Haye in India, and officially translated into Spanish, but they refused to take our application, saying that we now need to get two more documents: my boyfriends parents signature for certification of his marital status and a proof of our marriage being published in two Indian newspapers everyday during one month. But the reality is that none of these is possible: the first one because his parents do not agree to this marriage and the second one because in India our marriage is not valid because of being two men, and therefore no Indian newspaper is going to announce our marriage in their marriages section. Moreover, I believe that if we gave Indian newspapers details about our marriage, they could use it to produce news criticizing it, and exposing my boyfriend to a dangerous situation (it has happened earlier this year that a tv channel in India exposed gay people publicly and they ended up trying to commit suicide due to social oppression). I would like to mention that my boyfriend is 31 years old (he is and adult, and so am I); the reason why they ask for his parents signature is because I think there used to be a tradition in hindu and islamic marriages where both families used to sign for the wedding, but as far as I know that it is not a requirement, nowadays the Affidavit (Indian document that states marital status of the person who is going to get marriage) is signed in front of a notary by the person who is going to get married (well I guess you know about all this), and we have got that, we actually had it done by a notary in India who is specialized in Affidavits. Do you have any idea of what we can do? Thank you very much Asier Reguera
Re: g_b Gay African man burned alive
Thank you for the clarification, Sir. Nice to have you on our group, so that the record can be set straight. From: Sam Thomas samurai...@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: g_b Gay African man burned alive Just to set the records straight, although it doesn't justify this inhumane act. I'm Nigerian and understand the language this man is not being killed because he was gay. This video has nothing to do with LGBT , he is being burnt because he is an armed robber (a rapist and a murderer) not that it justifies their actions. Just get your facts straight http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2011/10/10/gay-african-man-beaten-burned-alive-by-angry-mob-extremely-graphic-video/ On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Shocking, disturbing, savage, cruel, inhuman, brutal . I will run out of words ... what people! And no one had the guts to stop this?!! From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:05 AM Subject: g_b Gay African man burned alive CAUTION: Extremely gory and graphic video...see only if you have nerves of steel... http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2011/10/10/gay-african-man-beaten-burned-alive-by-angry-mob-extremely-graphic-video/ Wonder what the world is coming to, and where humanity is headed? Aditya B
Re: g_b Gay African man burned alive
Shocking, disturbing, savage, cruel, inhuman, brutal . I will run out of words ... what people! And no one had the guts to stop this?!! From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:05 AM Subject: g_b Gay African man burned alive CAUTION: Extremely gory and graphic video...see only if you have nerves of steel... http://unicornbooty.com/blog/2011/10/10/gay-african-man-beaten-burned-alive-by-angry-mob-extremely-graphic-video/ Wonder what the world is coming to, and where humanity is headed? Aditya B
Re: g_b looking for marriage of convenience
Giving your real name, address, phone number to strangers is always dangerous, sonny! Next time, arrange a meeting. This advice is not with reference to any particular person. --- On Wed, 13/7/11, Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in Subject: Re: g_b looking for marriage of convenience To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 13 July, 2011, 2:40 PM Hi everybody, This girl priya, i contacted her once when she gave this advertisement. believe me she is all talks... when i asked her that whether i can get her contact number to discuss the proposal further. i gave her my number and then she just vanished. do not believe her frnds... From: priya arora girl_looking_for_...@yahoo.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 12 July, 2011 3:44:59 AM Subject: Re: g_b looking for marriage of convenience --- exuse me if ya dun know mah problems den dun comment alright
Re: g_b Dishonest, Cheating Hi prem
How can you be a "mad" cow if you give such sensible, correct advise? Yes, good advice, do follow it, dear Prem Chandran. Prem, you are also risking A.I.D.S. with this partner. Stay away and donate your surplus cash to Humsafar Trust instead, yar! They DO accept donations.--- On Fri, 8/7/11, mad cow madc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: mad cow madc...@yahoo.comSubject: Re: g_b Dishonest, Cheating Hi premTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, 8 July, 2011, 6:16 PM hi prem dont be fool anymore with him he will never ever improve and u r loosing ur time money and ur energy, it happendsame thing with me he was muslim boy slut basterd his name was Fahim i lost tremonds money bought him house and so on but he was never true to me he was a bigest lier so now iam no more with him just gave up, i came to know he was a bigest cheeter god forbid he will die with pain no matter were he is ,my dear prem just forget about him see that who loves u not u loves someone u must love but umust see that weather he loves u and keep limited spending on people, my dear u work hard and we spend on such sluts basterds plz foget him and tell him that he has taken loan from u and threat him that u will take him to police and fuck him or do one thing if he gets u once more take him to fuck and put bamboo in his ass and tear his ars dear dont worry we must do such things those who cheet take care.---Sponsored links: Rock Hard Erections. All New Formula Attacks the Root. Fast. http://alternatemedicinestore2010.com/ar/sig From: prem chandran zulfy_2...@yahoo.comTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, July 7, 2011 2:22:57 PMSubject: g_b Dishonest, Cheating Flirting Partner I hv been keeping a relation with my Ex Bf for about 2 yrs. Helped him in financially for all his needs, such as Air Ticket, Mobiles, gold ring, Gold Chain, Hospital Exp,day to day expenses,Hard disk, Clothes, Jacket for interview etcas he was jobless Sick. Only thing he was a lier throughout still I accommodated. He was very adamant with his lies even though I exposed few times. Whenever I was in Mumbai he used to meet me 2 times a week , rest he used to give me all sort of excuses. But later I found-out he-used to go with others. Well I told him I wouldnt mind going wd others but tell me wd whom he goes. He used to swear upon his parents Jesus Christ ( He is a Cristian boy) that since he started wd me never been wd any. It was a lie bcz I exposed his lie twice. He use to justify a lie with 1000 lies. Still i was very much accommodating to keep him happy. I knew he had lot of problems in his life. He was a hard core bottombeen with many even foreigners before becoming friendly wd me. He was living wd his relatives they used to take care of his daily food. Rest I was supporting. Hewas very good looking like a foreigner. Even though 24 yrs look like a boy of 20. Tall fair. He had fetish for under wears used buy at least 4 every month. Waxing his legs Chest n was proud of himself. When i'm away I used to send him 8-9000 rupees every month. When I was away he started working for a salary of 4000, as a trainee but used to up/down fr work by auto paying 80+80 every day, bcz of my remittance.so after 4 month i landed back on Saturday waited for him near to his place to give a surprise but that evening he never turned up. I called his number not responded called him nxt day he swear ed to me that he reached home by 8.30pm. Itold him I wouldn't mind if he had n with any, bcz he is a needy guy but tell me the truth. He started shouting on phone .I tried to calm him down but he was just accusing me with all sort of nonsense stating he will go2 police stating that I was using him and all. The nxt day he wanted to justify that he reached his place in 30 min, call me near his work place and both of us travelled on same rick but never reached in 30 mins but he still he was justifying. So i walked out from there without any comments. Then started all threatening all as I stopped helping him financially.Then he become very furious. He had faulted his net payment and even though the con was discon in feb the bill continued accrued to Rs.8500/- b4 I left in Jan I paid the bill on 4Jan gave him the Receipt which he say he misplaced N accused me I never paid bcz of that net discon.Now he says he has only one Tension that is reliance's pending bill, which he expecting to settle if I want to ease his tension, but nothing 2 do wd me anymore. I wanted to settle the bill, Made inquiry n called him, sms him for some details but he never replied or attended my calls. Since no more funding, he started to travel by bus, which would cost him only Rs24 up/down instead of Rs.160/- Most of the money I gave was through Bank Transfer I hv all the copies. I want to help him but he is very adamant that he doesn't need my help, he is poor, as long he
Re: g_b India health minister: Gay sex is a disease
Ghulam Nabi Azad and all politicians are India's worst diseases, killing India with corruption. Parasites, all of them.
Re: g_b Thank You All
Dear Critics of Aditya Bondopadhyay, I do not know Aditya personally, I have never met him, I have only read his writings on this list and, if you gentlemen go through the archives, you will read that I too have been at the receiving end of fire and brimstone from Mr. Aditya. But the fact remains that he is indeed a brilliant lawyer and superb in defence of gays and splendid in arguments of gay issues. A sword has to be sharp, gentlemen. The head of a spear has to be sufficently pointed to kill. Otherwise, these are not weapons, just oarnaments. I feel that, instead of driving this person away (not that he is going to be driven away by protests), it would be better to coax, to cajole, to persuade. Even hurling abuses is not going to work, he will lash out against anger with anger - as anyone including myself would. It sometimes happens that all members on this list are not as highly educated, not as intelligent and not as mature; some are even just kids! I am fifty three and so eighteen year olds are kids for me! Such people may get dissuaded and frightened away and so we could collectively request Shri Aditya to be more polite and considerate and maybe, just perhaps maybe, there is a chance that he will listen. We need an angry young man, who is angry against gay hostile and gay intolerant people, not against us! At the same time, this person is an asset not worth losing! And then there are the instances of people whose sentiments have been hurt by what he said about Gandhiji or Baba Ramdev. I had once been told, God does not need devotees, devotees need God. So also, if something is said about someone you respect, instead of being upset, you can take it that that person does not need you to defend him, he can defend himself and also you! And maybe you can ignore such comments instead of silencing those who make them! This is a free and democratic country and the freedom of speech is granted to everyone and this gay bombay list also follows those time honoured traditions. Let us co-operate with the Moderator and allow all to say what they want to. Take what is worth taking and with a kind and gentle breath, blow the rest away! Let us think it over! With malice toward none, Regards to all my readers and thank you, all of you, for reading. --- On Fri, 1/7/11, Mike Morea handsomemo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mike Morea handsomemo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Thank You All To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 1 July, 2011, 7:22 PM Another victim falls to Aditya's insensitivity and yes, I am particularly calling his name here. He is too brash, lacks empathy and stupid most of times ... as brilliant he is at times. Moderator, how many more should quit this forum before any action is taken? Alan now, Mike previously (quit over Gandhiji's comments) ... This is as people have come out and said so. How many quit before or silently fearing the reprisal from AB, I do not know. Do you want this forum to end up as one person's pet peeves ... wake up guys. Morea. From: alan sus boy_alon...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 3:48:59 AM Subject: g_b Thank You All Dear all, sorry about talking about banning anyone, anyways i was on this site to convey messages to my boyfriend but he had unsubscribed long back, just was annoyed when aditya had written a long critisizing and mocking poem on how painful my life was without my boyfriend. just want to say many guys come to this site, who are in state of joy, sorrow, suicidal and mental and confused too.. sharing a view always many atimes helps others to prevent from burning someone elses hands. and learning from someone's mistake or success. Wish you guys all the very best and wish you all success in love, life Destiny.. And i have found my lover back, so me too am unsubscribing from this group which is my next step... Goood bye and cheers
Re: g_b This has NOTHING to do with LGBT - but is a general SAFETY WARNING
Thank you! --- On Mon, 16/5/11, sbdary sbd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: sbdary sbd...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b This has NOTHING to do with LGBT - but is a general SAFETY WARNING To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 16 May, 2011, 4:26 PM Hi All, I'm writing about a shocking episode that happened last Friday (13th May 2011) in Pune. This may be a good, useful lesson in safety for all of us to remember. I was talking to someone I know, a person who is normally quite lively and chirpy but who sounded rather down and depressed this morning. This is the story that I heard, the reason behind the depression... a family firend had died due to burns sustained in the kitchen. The gas stove was on, cooking under process. The lady observed some cockroaches near the sink and grabbed a can of insect repellent and sprayed it. Near the gas stove, which was burning. There was an explosion and in no time the poor woman was covered in flames, sustained 65% burns. Her husband rushed in, tried to douse the flames and his clothes too caught fire. The husband is still in hospital, in the burns ward, still unaware that his wife has succumbed, dead on arrival. I've been trying to gather some information on the inscet repellents such as Hit, Mortein etc. Are they flammable? I guess they are, and the nano-particles spread extremely rapidly. Did the poor lady realise the hazard involved? Obviously not! Spread the word around who knows? Sujit
Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL
I think Sid means EVERY train, yar! One particular compartment in EVERY train that leaves. --- On Sat, 7/5/11, Reshma Mathur kappun...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reshma Mathur kappun...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 7 May, 2011, 9:02 AM hi let me know too, i will join this train too From: Gibson Bist gibsonbist...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 5:16 PM Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL which train, Slow or fast , at what time it start from Chrch gt stn. Abhiyahoo.co.uk wrote: From: sid parkar sidparkar2...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 6, 2011, 8:39 AM There is a gay compartment in trains in Western railway. It is the first gents second class compartment on Churchgate side. Men look at each other understand what they want and come closer. I went once with a friend few years ago and we both had a surprisingly good experience. --- On Fri, 6/5/11, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 6 May, 2011, 8:18 I think the idea is good, but you have put it on the mailing list and there is no guarantee about WHO reads this list. Gay Hostile people could also be reading this and could be ready to pick up people using this method, just to later blackmail, beat up, whatever. We read of bad experiences, don't we? The idea is good, but needs caution. This is strictly my opinion and not the opinion of any other member of the group and also not the opinion of the group and I alone am responsible for my opinion. Regards. --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 May, 2011, 2:57 PM Frnds i need ur vomments on this idea,, would this work.. From: Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 4 May, 2011 5:15:00 PM Subject: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL Hi everyone I thought if thei and think that this might makes our life easy if we want to find who is a gay among the crowd in the local train. i guess that we all have bluetooth in our mobiles... let all name it to BOMBAY DOST so when anyone of us searches and he gets this simply he should write a note and send via bluetooth everything like where eactly is he standing wat clothes is he wearing something like this 25 near door blue and black vasai so the other one would understand that he is 25 yrs of age standing near door and wearing blue shirt and would get down at vasai the only thing is we need to change our buletooth device name to BOMBAY DOST if u think this might work and bring some enjoyment for us pls act also plz keep the name as BOMBAY DOST only. so each one of us would enjoy Regards Virarite
Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL
I think the idea is good, but you have put it on the mailing list and there is no guarantee about WHO reads this list. Gay Hostile people could also be reading this and could be ready to pick up people using this method, just to later blackmail, beat up, whatever. We read of bad experiences, don't we? The idea is good, but needs caution. This is strictly my opinion and not the opinion of any other member of the group and also not the opinion of the group and I alone am responsible for my opinion. Regards. --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 May, 2011, 2:57 PM Frnds i need ur vomments on this idea,, would this work.. From: Sameer Raj virar...@yahoo.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 4 May, 2011 5:15:00 PM Subject: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL Hi everyone I thought if thei and think that this might makes our life easy if we want to find who is a gay among the crowd in the local train. i guess that we all have bluetooth in our mobiles... let all name it to BOMBAY DOST so when anyone of us searches and he gets this simply he should write a note and send via bluetooth everything like where eactly is he standing wat clothes is he wearing something like this 25 near door blue and black vasai so the other one would understand that he is 25 yrs of age standing near door and wearing blue shirt and would get down at vasai the only thing is we need to change our buletooth device name to BOMBAY DOST if u think this might work and bring some enjoyment for us pls act also plz keep the name as BOMBAY DOST only. so each one of us would enjoy Regards Virarite
Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL
Thanks for the tip! --- On Fri, 6/5/11, sid parkar sidparkar2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: sid parkar sidparkar2...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: g_b NEW WAY TO FIND A GAY IN MUMBAI LOCAL To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 6 May, 2011, 2:09 PM =Message Truncated=
Re: g_b Swallowing Semen - A Query in Mumbai Mirror
I think the problem is psychological, Deep. This guy was a first timer from what he wrote and maybe he felt some humiliation? I have always found it tasteless, bland etc. Though I would not know about unclean or diseased people. I just know, I like the taste. --- On Tue, 3/5/11, Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Deep gaymanprou...@yahoo.co.in Subject: g_b Swallowing Semen - A Query in Mumbai Mirror To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 3 May, 2011, 10:49 AM Here's a query from a 27 year old, educated and proud to be gay man (BRAVO!). Cool reply from Dr. Mahinder Watsa in today's edition of Mumbai Mirror. The virgin says that His sperms were in large quantity and smelling very bad - he obviously refers to the quantity of semen of his 32 year old partner. My question is, how many of us feel that semen smells bad when we take it in our mouths? Does it smell bad only if the partner is either unclean or carries some sexually transmitted disease? Deep http//gaynotes.blogspot.com Source: http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=ArchiveSource=PageSkin=MIRRORNEWBaseHref=MMIR/2011/05/03PageLabel=27EntityId=Ar02701ViewMode=HTML ASK THE SEXPERT DR MAHINDER WATSA 1 I am 27 years old, well educated and proud to say I am gay. I have a friend who is 34 years old and unmarried. I performed oral sex on him last night. It was the first time I indulged in sex with anybody. He exploded sperm in my mouth. Even after I removed it, a lot of thick sperms were left. I am sure lots have gone inside my mouth too. I have read it is safe but I just want to know from you if it is okay. His sperms were in large quantity and smelling very bad. He wants to do it without condoms. I hope you understand. Swallowing ejaculation fluid from a person you can trust will cause you no harm. Whether you should is your business.
Re: g_b German man turns woman, Kashmiri lover refuses to marry
Hole. The censored word is hole. Regards. --- On Tue, 3/5/11, akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com wrote: From: akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b German man turns woman, Kashmiri lover refuses to marry To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 3 May, 2011, 12:59 AM a sad story, it is. what i cannot decipher is what the censored word **le is. duh. a On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 8:03 AM, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: The sex acts, if they happened, happened consensually, and outside the jurisdiction of the Srinagar Court, or any other court in India for that matter. If there is to be a prosecution for rape/sexual assault, it has to be under the court and under laws of the place where it took place, i.e. Germany. Neither 377 9=1 376 applies in this case. A civil or tort action may lie, but that is a decision that the German will have to take. Given the way/speed the judiciary functions, I can safely say that if she does go for it, she will be pretty old by the time a decision is taken. Best, Aditya B On 5/2/11, modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in wrote: German man turns woman, Kashmiri lover refuses to marry Sunday, 01 May 2011 11:19 Kashmir Monitor http://www.kashmirdispatch.com/headlines/01053077-german-man-turns-women-kas hmiri-lover-refuses-to-marry.htm Srinagar: A close relative of a well known New Delhi based Kashmiri businessman has run into legal trouble after his lover from Germany moved a local court here seeking relief. According to sources the court of Chief Judicial Magistrate, Srinagar witnessed one of the strangest cases in recent times that has baffled the police and the judiciary alike. The story goes like this. A young man from Kashmir got closely involved with a man hailing from Germany. The two soon became very close and 'developed' homosexual relation. Over the period of time the two were 'together', the German 'beloved' gave numerous gifts to his Kashmiri lover running into lakhs of rupees. Such was the level of intimacy between the gay couple that the German wanted to marry the boy from Kashmir 'legally'. Perhaps informed that homosexuality was still a crime in India, the German then decided to do the unbelievable. Thinking that he could have a happy life with his Kashmiri boyfriend the German decided to go in for a sex change operation. The sex change operation is an extremely costly affair in European countries with average bill of over 1-2 million. The German claims that he spent around Rs.30 lacs on the surgery. Despite the costs and the risks, the German reportedly went in for the operation. The operation was successful and he came out of operation theater as a woman. Thinking that now he (she) could marry her long time boyfriend, the German boy turned girl came all the way to Kashmir, only to get the shock of her life when the boyfriend refused to marry her. Shocked and numbed by the volte face the German has decided to fight back. She hired a lawyer in Srinagar to seek justice. In the petition filed before the CJM, the German has reportedly accused the Kashmiri boy of fraud cheating and even rape. But the counsel for the Kashmiri boy argued that basic petition was flawed as the sexuality of the German is not clear. I told the judge that it was a case of two *** les. If it is front **le then the case falls under section 376 o IPC and if it is the back **le then section 377 of IPC will apply. I told the judge to decide on which lines should I based my arguments on, said advocate Bilal Ahmed. He added that since the two were having a live in relationship, charges of rape do not apply and that the German should file a civil suit instead. According to sources the police too is confused as to on what lines should they file their case report. Considering the German was a man and now is a woman, we will wait for observations of the court, a police official said. Email: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/post?postID=DCvNIbdTv_3_C5j5flK54H ZuyqMJgNC-L4S3BWR464eSfMgGEAMLax1OSqSI6REqIgVM3LQEejINlemMrw modera...@gaybombay.in E Groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay http://groups.google.com/group/Gaybombay http://groups.google.com/group/GayIndia Public archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml GB Internet Radio at http://www.gaybombay.in/gbradio Web Sites: www.gaybombay.in www.gayindia.org Orkut: http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?uid=15084918632470824129 Blogs: http://gaybombay.blogspot.com http://gaybombay.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/gaybombay http://twitter.com/gayindia Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/gaybombay http://www.facebook.com/gayindia -- Sent from my mobile device -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of
Re: g_b Why i'm here
You are most welcome to be with us! --- On Thu, 14/4/11, Carrera carrera...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Carrera carrera...@yahoo.in Subject: g_b Why i'm here To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 14 April, 2011, 11:49 PM Dear All, I've joined the group recently and haven't gotten down to introducing myself. For those of you who don't know, I'm biologically female, identify as Gender-fluid, and 32yrs old. I have a very strange predicament. I don't know if I rightly belong to this group, or for that matter, what kind of queer-identity I should ascribe to. I am bisexual but that's not why I'm here. I find myself extremely attracted to the concept of being gay. Not female-lesb. I mean male-gay. I feel like a gay boy in a woman's body most of the time. This poses a bit of a problem as obviously no gay man would be able to reciprocate that!! Ideally I would like to eventually end up in an open r'ship with a bi-dude. But most bi-men DON'T TELL WOMEN they're bi !! Which takes me back to square one. Anyway, I'm unsure of what my role here is, or whether I should pursue contact with people in GB and at GB events. I'm unsure of whether my presence at GB meets would be out of place at best or unwanted at worst. Most of my friends are straight, and though that's fine with me, it leaves out a whole aspect of myself when I relate to them. I don't identify with lesbians at all ! What would you all suggest I do? I would really want to know what are your honest opinions in this situation, and whether you think it is awkward or alright for me to be here. Love, T
Re: g_b Request Please Don't Give Up On Our Dog
Message forwarded to animal lovers I know. There is also a frantic search for one Karnit Anand Shah aged five! Sad! Maybe posting this too on FaceBook might help? (If not done already?)
Re: g_b Farooq Abdullah's comment
Kris you are absolutely correct. Men don't become gay because they cannot get women! What ideas some people have, yar! --- On Thu, 14/4/11, Kris Bass kris.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kris Bass kris.b...@gmail.com Subject: g_b Farooq Abdullah's comment To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, Gay Underscore gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Gay India gayin...@yahoogroups.com, LGBT-India Forum lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, Khush List khush-l...@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 14 April, 2011, 1:29 PM Dear all, Please check this story. http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/sex-ratio-means-men-may-have-to-turn-gay-farooq-98381 -- Sex ratio means men may have to turn gay: Farooq Press Trust of India, Updated: April 14, 2011 13:07 IST New Delhi: Concerned over the growing uneven sex ratio in the country, Union Minister Farooq Abdullah today said there will be a day when men will have no girls to marry and they may have to turn gay. The day is not far when there will be no girls to marry and we'll all become gays. That might happen, he said, while trying to drive home the point that there should be no threat to girl child. Addressing the 'India Water Forum 2011' in New Delhi, in the presence of Vice-President Hamid Ansari and his cabinet colleague Salman Khursheed, Abdullah said the number of males is growing and women are getting eliminated. Census 2011 report recently revealed a worrying trend in the child sex ratio, indicating that a strong bias against the girl child still persists. In 2001, there were 927 female children aged 0-six years for every 1,000 male children of the same age. In 2011, this dropped to 914 females for every 1,000 males, according to the provisional results of Census 2011. Keeping in mind the kind of question that you have asked and the person who you have mentioned and his talent and dignity, I would not like to dignify it with a response, Congress spokesperson Manish Tiwari said when asked about Abdullah's remarks. He, at the same time, shared Abdullah's concerns about the declining sex ratio saying it was a serious issue on which the society should contemplate. -- If the comment is not made with humor in mind, it seems uneducated and homophobic. Kris -- http://engayginglife.blogspot.com Remember that if men were not meant to be sucked, their bodies wouldn't have come with a nozzle! - A Gay
Re: g_b Guys wanting to get into a gay relationship
Light hearted replies, laugh them off guys, no offence meant from me to anyone either. --- On Thu, 31/3/11, superhit1977 superhit1...@yahoo.in wrote: From: superhit1977 superhit1...@yahoo.in Subject: g_b Guys wanting to get into a gay relationship To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 31 March, 2011, 4:07 PM What is your say when the following categories of guys say that they want to enter a gay relationship: **Married guys.how can they sail in two boats at the same timewherein the wife will always be the priority REPLY: Jo mazaa hai daaru mein, woh nahin hai paani mein. Jo mazaa hai saali mein, woh nahin gharwaali mein! **Guys who claim communication is the most important aspect of a relationship, but vanish from the relationship giving no explanations..jaise gadhe ke sar pe se singhh REPLY: aati hai tu to welcome, jaati hai tu to bheed kam. **Matured guys who claim they have seen a lot many monsoons than us and try to throw their weight around REPLY: Diet and exercise regime? **Confused guys for whom life is nothing beyond saying...Dekhte hain aage kya hoga REPLY: Tell them Forget aage kya hoga, check out peeche kya ho gaya you ch**t! **Guys who date one guy but are still found on gay dating sites justifying that they are looking out for FRIENDS only REPLY: Do likewise. What's the prob yar! **Guys who are just hooked on to sexual preferences and nothing beyond and claim they r looking for a serious relationship. REPLY: Maybe they ARE serious? About being just hooked on to sexual preferences and nothing beyond? So ask them WHAT they are serious about, man! More smart ass replies, anyone? Go ahead, beat me! Anything for laffs! People are fighting it out for our rights.but is that worth their efforts that will pay off.unless such guys exist No offence against anybody.these are just the observations
Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma
Aditya has read the BOOK, most of us have just read the review. That is a huge plus in Aditya's favour. --- On Thu, 31/3/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 31 March, 2011, 3:39 PM The point is, I just procured and read the book so that I can make up my own mind. And this is what I find: we are all screaming because some nitwit reviewer had to sell his/her copy and therefore came up with what can safely be termed COMPLETE BULLSHIT. The book is nothing that the review claims and there is no indication or even wording about Gandhi's sexuality. It is a complete fabrication of a sensationalist and partially deranged reviewer. So this is what I suggest. Before you get into a frenzy aka shiv sena, and start beating up the writer and burning libraries, please read the book. And id you still have bile left, reserve the boot for the reviewer for spreading canards, and withdraw it from the writer. Best, Aditya On 3/31/11, Mike Milton mmilto...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps the author needs some to boot him !!! Bloot, point here is not appreciating Gandhiji's principle ... for long we have done that and have given up now too. Point here is, if someone writes a story about me, I think I expect people to verify the veracity of the story before believing the same. We owe the same level of respect to Mahatma. Does any one his right mind think, if there was any truth to this story, British would have destroyed Gandhi and would have taken full advantage of it. Let us think before passing mundane comments at least about a great soul. Mike. From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 1:33:14 AM Subject: Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma I am speaking from what I read in Mumbai Mirror. According to the author of the book, he has discovered facts about Gandhiji's sexual life from letters written by Gandhi to Kallenbach. In such a case, instead of even discussing Gandhiji's sexuality, would it not be a lot more pertinent to admire and even revere the honesty with which he preserved those letters so that his life could openly be studied? Never mind what his sexuality was, he was truthful, honest, open and courageous about any and everything! Otherwise, today we would not have known about this and been able to criticise/praise etc. --- On Tue, 29/3/11, akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com wrote: From: akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com Subject: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma To: lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 6:26 PM dear all, below is one of several reviews of Joseph Lelyveld's book, 'Great Soul', on which a ban is reportedly being planned in Maharashtra. (http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ban-looms-over-new-Mahatma-book-author-cries-foul/Article1-678973.aspx) . as though 'bisexual' were an insult. :) have not had a chance to read the book itself, but responses to the possibility that the father of the nation might have had a strong, erotic/sexual attachment to a man are interesting. xx akshay http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703529004576160371482469358.html?mod=WSJ_article_related -- Sent from my mobile device -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyopadhyay.webs.com/ Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principals, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public.
Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma
Yes, I agree with what you say. Thank you for your response. --- On Thu, 31/3/11, Mike Milton mmilto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mike Milton mmilto...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 31 March, 2011, 2:54 AM Perhaps the author needs some to boot him !!! Bloot, point here is not appreciating Gandhiji's principle ... for long we have done that and have given up now too. Point here is, if someone writes a story about me, I think I expect people to verify the veracity of the story before believing the same. We owe the same level of respect to Mahatma. Does any one his right mind think, if there was any truth to this story, British would have destroyed Gandhi and would have taken full advantage of it. Let us think before passing mundane comments at least about a great soul. Mike. From: Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 1:33:14 AM Subject: Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma I am speaking from what I read in Mumbai Mirror. According to the author of the book, he has discovered facts about Gandhiji's sexual life from letters written by Gandhi to Kallenbach. In such a case, instead of even discussing Gandhiji's sexuality, would it not be a lot more pertinent to admire and even revere the honesty with which he preserved those letters so that his life could openly be studied? Never mind what his sexuality was, he was truthful, honest, open and courageous about any and everything! Otherwise, today we would not have known about this and been able to criticise/praise etc. --- On Tue, 29/3/11, akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com wrote: From: akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com Subject: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma To: lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 6:26 PM dear all, below is one of several reviews of Joseph Lelyveld's book, 'Great Soul', on which a ban is reportedly being planned in Maharashtra. (http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ban-looms-over-new-Mahatma-book-author-cries-foul/Article1-678973.aspx) . as though 'bisexual' were an insult. :) have not had a chance to read the book itself, but responses to the possibility that the father of the nation might have had a strong, erotic/sexual attachment to a man are interesting. xx akshay http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703529004576160371482469358.html?mod=WSJ_article_related
Re: g_b CNN - Anti-gay churchs right to protest at military funerals is upheld
Well said. Who appointed them spokesmen for God anyway!
Re: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma
I am speaking from what I read in Mumbai Mirror. According to the author of the book, he has discovered facts about Gandhiji's sexual life from letters written by Gandhi to Kallenbach. In such a case, instead of even discussing Gandhiji's sexuality, would it not be a lot more pertinent to admire and even revere the honesty with which he preserved those letters so that his life could openly be studied? Never mind what his sexuality was, he was truthful, honest, open and courageous about any and everything! Otherwise, today we would not have known about this and been able to criticise/praise etc. --- On Tue, 29/3/11, akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com wrote: From: akshay khanna xae...@gmail.com Subject: g_b on Gandhi, his loving relationship with a german body builder, and the difficulty of assimilating the (homo)sexual into the image of the mahatma To: lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 29 March, 2011, 6:26 PM dear all, below is one of several reviews of Joseph Lelyveld's book, 'Great Soul', on which a ban is reportedly being planned in Maharashtra. (http://www.hindustantimes.com/Ban-looms-over-new-Mahatma-book-author-cries-foul/Article1-678973.aspx) . as though 'bisexual' were an insult. :) have not had a chance to read the book itself, but responses to the possibility that the father of the nation might have had a strong, erotic/sexual attachment to a man are interesting. xx akshay http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703529004576160371482469358.html?mod=WSJ_article_related
Re: g_b Happy to report victory in the TV9 matter
Congratulations! --- On Thu, 24/3/11, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: g_b Happy to report victory in the TV9 matter To: Date: Thursday, 24 March, 2011, 8:53 AM Dear Friends, As I had reported earlier, TV9 had aired a Telegu language news feature where they had taken profiles, pictures, and phone numbers from the gay dating site Planet Romeo, and revealed them on prime time. They had also called up some of he guys and asked them leading questions on their sexual practices under the pretense of being another user and prospective date from planet Romeo. My organisation, Adhikaar had at that time sent a legal notice to TV9 detailing the violations that they have committed under the NBA guidelines and asked for an apology. Wide publicity was given in both the media and in forums like Facebook and on the internet to this notice. The community mobilised and held protests against TV9 offices in many cities including Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai, Hyderabad, and Kolkata. TV9 had an allowed period of 7 days within which they were to have responded to the notice sent to them from Adhikaar. They failed and/or neglected to do so. We had therefore set a deadline of end March to file a complaint before The News Broadcasting Standards Authority against TV9. It now transpires that after the publicity that was given to the matter post our notice and protests against TV9, the The News Broadcasting Standards Authority took suo-moto cognizance of the matter and sent a notice to TV9. It thereafter proceeded against TV9 and has now censured TV9 to pay a fine of Rs.1,00,000 and broadcast an apology in prime time both in English and in Telugu. NBA has determined that TV9 has violated the following codes of ethics and broadcasting standards by publishing the story “Gay culture rampant in Hyderabad” Clause 5: Sex and Nudity Clause 6: Privacy Clause 9: Sting operations View the news of the order at : http://gaysifamily.com/2011/03/24/tv9-pays-the-price/ It is a victory for the community and and we all should celebrate. But at the same time we all should now also become more vigilant that no such violation is done by any other media house in the future, and if they do, we protest and we bring bring it to the notice of the NBSA. 3 cheers to all who worked and protested. We came together as a community and we won. Congratulations..!! Best to all, Aditya Bondyopadhyay
Re: g_b Navroze Mubarak
Wishing you too a Very Happy Jamshedi Navroze!
Re: g_b Monday's Midnight Melody
Lovely! Thanks to both of you (1) Asfan and (2) Deep!
Re: g_b Re: [gb] Wednesday's woe
Thank you. So nice of you to take the trouble. Really appreciate it. Thanks again. --- On Fri, 4/2/11, Tintin Mumbai India tintin197...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tintin Mumbai India tintin197...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b Re: [gb] Wednesday's woe To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 12:02 PM Just for Info...Orgasm and Sperms do not have any relation... A guy with NO SPERMS can attain very good orgasm, early, normal or delayed... SPERMS are not also related to the quantity and/or thickness of sticky creamy liquid, coming out at the time of Orgasm (known as Cum) or before that (Known as Pre-cum). Most of the times, Pre-cum is very dilute, but still contain SPERMS (incase the guy has his SPERM COUNT Regular). Abhay On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Imagine what an itsy bitsy teensy weensy orgasm you would have with just one sperm yar! Regards! --- On Wed, 2/2/11, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b Re: [gb] Wednesday's woe To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, G_B gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 10:48 AM why are a million sperms produced when only one is necessary for conceiving? They are masculine they wont ask for directions and accidentally only one hits home. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 6:48:22 AM Subject: [gb] Wednesday's woe What do men and sperm have in common? They both have a one-in-a-million chance of becoming a human being. -- --- Reuse Paper by Both Sided Printing
Re: g_b Re: [gb] Wednesday's woe
Imagine what an itsy bitsy teensy weensy orgasm you would have with just one sperm yar! Regards! --- On Wed, 2/2/11, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b Re: [gb] Wednesday's woe To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, G_B gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 10:48 AM why are a million sperms produced when only one is necessary for conceiving? They are masculine they wont ask for directions and accidentally only one hits home. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 6:48:22 AM Subject: [gb] Wednesday's woe What do men and sperm have in common? They both have a one-in-a-million chance of becoming a human being.
Re: g_b Homosexuals Seek Greater Acceptance in India
You fishing for hilarious answers dahling? Just give him an electric shock up the you-know-where, yar! Hahahahahahahaha! --- On Wed, 2/2/11, geldmann...@yahoo.com geldmann...@yahoo.com wrote: From: geldmann...@yahoo.com geldmann...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Homosexuals Seek Greater Acceptance in India To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 8:07 AM Should we attempt at a dialogue with doctors or individuals like Narula? And how? What does this forum think? Srini Sent via BlackBerry® From: modera...@gaybombay.in Sender: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 00:19:21 +0530 To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com ReplyTo: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subject: g_b Homosexuals Seek Greater Acceptance in India Homosexuals Seek Greater Acceptance in India Rebecca Byerly | New Delhi, India January 31, 2011 Photo: VOA - R. Byerly Some gays have felt more comfortable 'coming out' about their sexuality since the Delhi High Court decriminalized consensual homosexual activity in 2009 Gay rights activists in India are seeking broader acceptance for homosexual men, lesbians and transgenders that goes beyond legal protection against criminal prosecution. But change is slow to come. It was just in July 2009, when the Delhi High Court repealed Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, the law that made same sex activity illegal in India. Homosexual men, lesbians and transgenders in New Delhi are marching to the beat of a new era. Since the Delhi High Court decriminalized consensual homosexual activity between adults, some gays have felt more comfortable coming out about their sexuality and attending functions like this gay pride parade in New Delhi late last year. For Sambhav Sharma, the repeal of the law gave him the courage to tell his grandmother that he is gay. To show their support, family members joined him in the parade. This is the consequence of Article 377. Because of that, I was able to convince my family to come down here and celebrate my 'Azadi,' my freedom, he said. Many gay men and women in India are not as comfortable as Sharma acknowledging their sexuality. In a conservative society like India, homosexuality is still widely taboo. That is why these parade participants wear masks to hide their identities. Anjali Gopalan is the founder and executive director of the Naz Foundation, a non-profit organization that works on HIV/AIDS and sexual health issues in New Delhi. I think the battle now is the battle for rights. The battle has to be for the right to marriage, the right to adopt, the right to inherit - rights which citizens of this country take for granted. And when I say citizens of this country, obviously the people who are taking it for granted is the heterosexual community because gay people don't have these rights. That's the long battle now. Gopalan says that even in metropolitian areas, some parents think they can change their homosexual children - make them heterosexual - with electric shock treatments. Others believe homosexuality can be cured in some way. That is what teacher Rajendra Narula believes. He attended a recent event in Delhi called Gay Rights are Human Rights. I think it's possible to treat homosexuality. It's just a matter of taking some hormones or counseling and it's absolutely correctable, he said. Gopalan says Narula and others who consider homosexuality an illness, or wrong, need to be taught that is not true. And both she and Sharma say as India develops they hope the government will give more rights to homosexuals. This is just the beginning. Everywhere we want our legal rights. That can be achieved by the recognition that the government will give us. And it will happen. Email: modera...@gaybombay.in E Groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay http://groups.google.com/group/Gaybombay http://groups.google.com/group/GayIndia Public archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml GB Internet Radio at http://www.gaybombay.in/gbradio Web Sites: www.gaybombay.in www.gayindia.org Orkut: http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?uid=15084918632470824129 Blogs: http://gaybombay.blogspot.com http://gaybombay.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/gaybombay http://twitter.com/gayindia Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/gaybombay http://www.facebook.com/gayindia
Re: g_b Underwear
I got an ad from shytoshop.com. I checked it out for interesting underwear for men and women. All of you interested in underwear and jock straps etc. , do check it out. Hope you guys like it, I did. Slightly expensive considering it is only underwear, but the sort they are selling would be, yar! Regards and Happy New Year to all! --- On Sun, 2/1/11, Riyaaz Sai rags4min...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: Riyaaz Sai rags4min...@yahoo.co.in Subject: g_b Underwear To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 2 January, 2011, 5:01 AM Hi everybody. Do underwears come in satin, silk or any other soft cloth? If yes where can I get them in Navi mumbai or Mumbai?
Re: g_b Drawing on his research on happiness, Csikszentmihalyi has three general pieces of advice:
Thanks. Just trying to pronounce that name makes me laugh so hard I am happy! Regards.
Re: g_b sikh gays
Dear Mr. Moderator, In response to your query, I do not know about other people but I have a Sikh Life Partner. We get along fine, or else we would not be Life Partners. Regards. just a curious q. why do a fair majority of gays don't like bearded sikhs? i have seen many sikh gays hesitantly say But i am sikh with turban and beard is that a big no-no in gay world? just wondering regards moderator
Re: g_b Unity in Diversity
This is probably why our leaders love to advertise our nation as Unity in Diversity but, as experience shows, the unity is very fragile. Each state feels neglected, each community wants its own separate state and selfish politicians generate and use such feelings to divide and rule, forgetting that the next batch who rule us may be much much worse than the British and that we may bitterly repent losing our precious freedom! --- On Thu, 29/7/10, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 9:15 PM I experience some kind of rebelion in the so claled hindi belt, people speak bhojpuri, awadhi maithili kumano ghadwali etc etc and they have began to quesiton why is Khadi Boli being thrust down on them. Like in the South they single you out as Hindi wala. Has anyone faced this? Its not an LGBT issue we all like and want to speak in English but where is the naitonal identity? little prince-Sanjay N Lulla
Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay
with confused geography that a true progeny can take, not to speak of the spelling 'jerzee' itself, (creating an 'oh zee..!!' moment for all and sundry). The third part 'boy' is clearly aspirational, for someone with Mr white's depth cannot be such a green-horn. I shall not comment on this except maybe to point out the safety that the boy finds in the bosom of mother English, for I shall know he has grown up when I see him make a similar attempt with being amiable to Odiya, Bangla, and Hindi, as I have been to step-mom English. I do wish him growth and hope he steps out of his linguistic cocoon to embrace these other linguistic gems and that this for him does not remain forever 'better never than late' Best, Mr. Bondyopadhyay On 7/27/10, Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in wrote: Moderator, please, please, please, do keep posting these verbal jousts. Hilarious! Congrats to both true gentlemen with an excellent command over English. --- On Tue, 27/7/10, usjerzeeboy usjerzeeboy@ yahoo.com wrote: From: usjerzeeboy usjerzeeboy@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:26 AM Dear Aditya Bondyopadhyay, Mr. White is also mighty pleased that you have found pleasure in his musings. Mr. White is also mighty please that Mr. Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake...a beginning maybe, but it is always better late than never. Regrettably, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, the subject title Judgmental Mr. Bondyopadhyay was added after the fact by a person(s). It was inappropriate to say the least for someone to credit me with words that I did not commit to print. Should you doubt my word, I would be happy to forward the original email. Mr. White is at a loss to understand what Mr. Bondyopadhyay is attempting to convey when he states, intentional use of caveatful terminology. .. While Mr. White is well aware of what a caveat is ( a warning, a caution or admonition), he was, after gleaning through various dictionaries, unable to locate a reference to caveatful. Ostensibly, English may not be Mr. Bondyopadhyay' s mother tongue and as such, the grammatical error can be excused. While Mr. Bondyopadhyay' s grammatical error may be forgiven (actually congratulations are offered as Mr. Bondyopadhyay works to augment his vocabulary and use of the English language...a beginning maybe, but always better late than never), the question begging to be asked is what was Mr. Bondyopadhyay warning us, the readers of his two liner, of ? Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay was exercising his civic duty and wanted to alert us to reinforcing stereotypes perhaps or God forbid, something heinous like a less than rational hysterical queen. Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay should stay clear of the rhetoric and concentrate on that which he knows best. That, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, remains your secret and yours alone and Mr. White will leave you alone to savor those secrets (my humblest apologies as I took the liberty of correcting some of the morphological errors). Best Regards, yours sincerely, Ray White i gave the subject heading.. i feltthe writer's email implied that... regards moderator _ _ __ From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 3:08:45 AM Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay Dear Ray White, Mr Bondyopadhyay is mighty pleased that his two liner has helped you wonder so much. A beginning maybe, but its always better late than never. To wonder is wonderful. Mr Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake in thinking that the name of the GB party is Let's Scream and not the name of the venue. That mistake was pointed out by another two liner and was well taken. And having acknowledged that, Mr. Bondyopadhyay wholeheartedly agrees, stemming as it does from his limited experience in such spaces, that there can be no better or more apt name for a disco than Let's Scream. Mr. Bondyopadhyay' s numb eardrums that lasted 3 days post the last such experience is a mighty testament to that. As to Mr. Bondyopadhyay being judgmental, in spite of Mr Bondyopadhyay' s intentional use of caveatful terminology like 'stereotype' et al, that remains your wonder and your alone...and Mr. Bondyopadhyay leaves your alone to savor them at your wonderful best. Wonderfully yours, Mr Bondyopadhyay On 25 July 2010 08:36, usjerzeeboy usjerzeeboy@ yahoo.com wrote: I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks Let's Scream is the name of the Gay Bombay party. The information in the message clearly states that...Let' s Scream is an uber cool disco... I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay is concerned with the indivindual who first coined the names for the Gay Bombay parties...I mean aren't they ALL GB parties held at various venues? I wonder if Mr. Bondypadhyay realizes that by using the word
Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay
Ah! Thank you, Sir! Most humbly, I stand corrected! --- On Thu, 29/7/10, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 12:05 PM Dear Bloot, Jerseys are not T-Shirts but woolen sweaters. Incidentally, there in NO national language of India. Only two OFFICIAL languages - Hindi and English! asfan --- On Wed, 28/7/10, Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 5:15 PM New Jersey in the US is spelt Jersey so far as I know, could be wrong, and T - Shirts used to be called jersies when I was a school kid - I am 52 now! As for the rest of your mail, thanks for a hearty laugh, Aditya! Thank you very much, thanks a million! Count me in your fan following.
Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay
New Jersey in the US is spelt Jersey so far as I know, could be wrong, and T - Shirts used to be called jersies when I was a school kid - I am 52 now! As for the rest of your mail, thanks for a hearty laugh, Aditya! Thank you very much, thanks a million! Count me in your fan following. --- On Wed, 28/7/10, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 8:51 AM Bloot, You have just comitted the faus pas of the list's history. Equating the two gentlemen on the score of English is patently flawed. Mr. Bondyopadhyay was born with what can safely be termed as a bastardised linguistic legacy. While his mother and father tongues are Odiya and Bangla respectively, his entire education has been in what is claimed to be the national language of India, i.e. Hindi, a laguage that he loves but refuses to accord the 'national' status to, for reasons that are another thesis altogether much beyond the scope of this correspondence. English certainly is Mr. Bonyopadhyay's step-mother tongue, and a testament to his amiable nature that he can be reasonable in handling it, although the chinks in his English armour are clearly obvious to the likes of Mr. White, the real progenies of the language. Real progenies of course enjoy their added advantage. One can after all take liberties with mom that one most likely will not with step-mom. So for example, a Mr. White can patronise an email name like 'usjerzeeboy'! Comprised of three distinct parts, the 'us' obviously signifies a nationality, of a country whose waning economic, political, and military influences is ever perfectly counter balanced by its inexhaustable desire for hegemony in every sphere, including English of course. The 'jerzee' part is where the real liberties lie. If Jerzee is a real place in that great nation of hegemons, I take back everything I am about to commit to print hereafter. Only, it just does not show up in my geography references, which makes me think it is the liberty induced take on 'Jersy'. There is such a place there, but with a prefix 'New' added to the name (isn't everything there 'new' and lacking in history..!?) which Mr. White can conveniently (or intentinally, do take your pick) discard. The 'Jersy' that is not 'new' just happens to be across the pond from the 'new' Jersy, and is credited with providing the 'holy cows' that sustain the world's diary industry. So its avoidance is exactly the kind of liberty with confused geography that a true progeny can take, not to speak of the spelling 'jerzee' itself, (creating an 'oh zee..!!' moment for all and sundry). The third part 'boy' is clearly aspirational, for someone with Mr white's depth cannot be such a green-horn. I shall not comment on this except maybe to point out the safety that the boy finds in the bosom of mother English, for I shall know he has grown up when I see him make a similar attempt with being amiable to Odiya, Bangla, and Hindi, as I have been to step-mom English. I do wish him growth and hope he steps out of his linguistic cocoon to embrace these other linguistic gems and that this for him does not remain forever 'better never than late' Best, Mr. Bondyopadhyay On 7/27/10, Bloot Fontaine blutfonta...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Moderator, please, please, please, do keep posting these verbal jousts. Hilarious! Congrats to both true gentlemen with an excellent command over English. --- On Tue, 27/7/10, usjerzeeboy usjerzee...@yahoo.com wrote: From: usjerzeeboy usjerzee...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:26 AM Dear Aditya Bondyopadhyay, Mr. White is also mighty pleased that you have found pleasure in his musings. Mr. White is also mighty please that Mr. Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake...a beginning maybe, but it is always better late than never. Regrettably, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, the subject title Judgmental Mr. Bondyopadhyay was added after the fact by a person(s). It was inappropriate to say the least for someone to credit me with words that I did not commit to print. Should you doubt my word, I would be happy to forward the original email. Mr. White is at a loss to understand what Mr. Bondyopadhyay is attempting to convey when he states, intentional use of caveatful terminology... While Mr. White is well aware of what a caveat is ( a warning, a caution or admonition), he was, after gleaning through various dictionaries, unable to locate a reference to caveatful. Ostensibly, English may not be Mr. Bondyopadhyay's mother tongue and as such, the grammatical error can be excused. While Mr. Bondyopadhyay's grammatical error may be forgiven (actually congratulations are offered as Mr. Bondyopadhyay works to augment his vocabulary and use of the English language
Re: g_b Latest from Manavendra: India's 1st gay mag
Sir, no offence meant to any individual, but I have printed copies of Bombay Dost with me, which date back to my college days twenty five years ago! Would not Shri Ashokji Row Kavi justly take credit for India's first gay magazine, whether in print or not as of now? My Respects to His Excellency Prince Manavendraji too! --- On Mon, 26/7/10, modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in wrote: From: modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in Subject: g_b Latest from Manavendra: India's 1st gay mag To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 12:56 AM Latest from Manavendra: India's 1st gay mag Yogesh Pareek, TNN, Jul 23, 2010, 10.29pm IST BHARUCH: Gay prince of Rajpipla Manavendra Singh Gohil will soon publish and edit India's first magazine for gays called Fun', which will highlight gay lifestyle. The magazine will talk about everything from gay fashion, to gadgets and gizmo that gays like, to health and sexuality and other issues relating to men who like men. Following the legalisation of consensual sex between two adult men, I noticed that many departmental stores opened separate stores for gays, Gohil told TOI. In this atmosphere, I felt the need to have a magazine for gays, said Manavendra. The magazine will be launched on July 26 at Goa with actress Celina Jaitley. The cover will have a shirtless photograph of upcoming model Rehan Khan. Interestingly, Fun will be printed in small town Rajpipla, Manavendra's home. As I am getting older, I want to give more time to writing on gay rights and lifestyle. Fun will give me the ideal opportunity. The prince is working on a number of other projects as well, including an old people's home exclusively for homosexuals and a hospice a final destination for AIDS patients on the death bed for both straight and gay people. Email: modera...@gaybombay .in E Groups: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/gay_ bombay http://groups. google.com/ group/Gaybombay http://groups. google.com/ group/GayIndia Public archives at http://www.mail- archive.com/ gay_bombay% 40yahoogroups. com/maillist. html Rss feed: http://www.mail- archive.com/ gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com/maillist. xml GB Internet Radio at http://www.gaybomba y.in/gbradio Web Sites: www.gaybombay. in www.gayindia. org Orkut: http://www.orkut. co.in/Main# Profile?uid= 1508491863247082 4129 Blogs: http://gaybombay. blogspot. com http://gaybombay. wordpress. com Twitter: http://twitter. com/gaybombay http://twitter. com/gayindia Facebook: http://www.facebook .com/gaybombay http://www.facebook .com/gayindia
Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay
Moderator, please, please, please, do keep posting these verbal jousts. Hilarious! Congrats to both true gentlemen with an excellent command over English. --- On Tue, 27/7/10, usjerzeeboy usjerzee...@yahoo.com wrote: From: usjerzeeboy usjerzee...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 July, 2010, 2:26 AM Dear Aditya Bondyopadhyay, Mr. White is also mighty pleased that you have found pleasure in his musings. Mr. White is also mighty please that Mr. Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake...a beginning maybe, but it is always better late than never. Regrettably, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, the subject title Judgmental Mr. Bondyopadhyay was added after the fact by a person(s). It was inappropriate to say the least for someone to credit me with words that I did not commit to print. Should you doubt my word, I would be happy to forward the original email. Mr. White is at a loss to understand what Mr. Bondyopadhyay is attempting to convey when he states, intentional use of caveatful terminology... While Mr. White is well aware of what a caveat is ( a warning, a caution or admonition), he was, after gleaning through various dictionaries, unable to locate a reference to caveatful. Ostensibly, English may not be Mr. Bondyopadhyay's mother tongue and as such, the grammatical error can be excused. While Mr. Bondyopadhyay's grammatical error may be forgiven (actually congratulations are offered as Mr. Bondyopadhyay works to augment his vocabulary and use of the English language...a beginning maybe, but always better late than never), the question begging to be asked is what was Mr. Bondyopadhyay warning us, the readers of his two liner, of ? Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay was exercising his civic duty and wanted to alert us to reinforcing stereotypes perhaps or God forbid, something heinous like a less than rational hysterical queen. Perhaps Mr. Bondyopadhyay should stay clear of the rhetoric and concentrate on that which he knows best. That, Mr. Bondyopadhyay, remains your secret and yours alone and Mr. White will leave you alone to savor those secrets (my humblest apologies as I took the liberty of correcting some of the morphological errors). Best Regards, yours sincerely, Ray White i gave the subject heading.. i feltthe writer's email implied that... regards moderator From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 3:08:45 AM Subject: Re: g_b GB Party- Judgmental Mr Bondyopadhyay Dear Ray White, Mr Bondyopadhyay is mighty pleased that his two liner has helped you wonder so much. A beginning maybe, but its always better late than never. To wonder is wonderful. Mr Bondyopadhyay concedes his mistake in thinking that the name of the GB party is Let's Scream and not the name of the venue. That mistake was pointed out by another two liner and was well taken. And having acknowledged that, Mr. Bondyopadhyay wholeheartedly agrees, stemming as it does from his limited experience in such spaces, that there can be no better or more apt name for a disco than Let's Scream. Mr. Bondyopadhyay's numb eardrums that lasted 3 days post the last such experience is a mighty testament to that. As to Mr. Bondyopadhyay being judgmental, in spite of Mr Bondyopadhyay's intentional use of caveatful terminology like 'stereotype' et al, that remains your wonder and your alone...and Mr. Bondyopadhyay leaves your alone to savor them at your wonderful best. Wonderfully yours, Mr Bondyopadhyay On 25 July 2010 08:36, usjerzeeboy usjerzeeboy@ yahoo.com wrote: I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks Let's Scream is the name of the Gay Bombay party. The information in the message clearly states that...Let's Scream is an uber cool disco... I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay is concerned with the indivindual who first coined the names for the Gay Bombay parties...I mean aren't they ALL GB parties held at various venues? I wonder if Mr. Bondypadhyay realizes that by using the word orginally implies that the name for the GB parties have changed. My notifications still appear as G B Party at and then the relevant information. What has changed? I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks this is an unusual name for a disco...I mean I see the possibly connections between a disco and the name Scream. I wonder why Mr. Bondyopadhyay thinks advertising this event with the name of the venue will somehow reinforce the stereotype of the less than rational hysterical gay queen? I mean if the group doesn't advertise the name of the venue, how will one know where the party is? If a different venue is chosen, will different stereotypes somehow be reinforced? I wonder why Mr. Bondypadhyay feels the need to make value judgments on the stereotype of a gay queen such as less than rational and hysterical? I know queens
Re: g_b 365 days minus 377:.
The song is Aaj kal TERE MERE pyaar ke charche har zubaan par not hamare pyaar ke charche. Another good song would be the Manoj Kumar song Bus yahi apradh main har bar karta hoon, aadmi hoon aadmi se pyaar karta hoon! Love to all! --- On Wed, 30/6/10, gay_bombay moderator modera...@gaybombay.in wrote: From: gay_bombay moderator modera...@gaybombay.in Subject: g_b 365 days minus 377:. To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 30 June, 2010, 12:26 PM 365 days minus 377: gay community says this calls for celebration Georgina Maddox Posted: Tue Jun 29 2010, 03:49 hrs New Delhi: A song from a 1968 Shammi Kapoor caper, tweaked to serve the queer cause, will be the anthem for the gay community as it celebrates the first anniversary of the Delhi High Court ruling that overturned Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code criminalising homosexuality. “Aaj kal hamare pyaar ke charche har zubaan par, sabko malum hai aur sabko khabar ho gayee...” will be the chant on the streets on July 2 as lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders celebrate the judgment that gave them breathing space in Delhi — and hope for greater freedom across the country. -Message Truncated-
Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam
Will Power. Not all can muster up the requisite will power. See how many die smoking, drinking etc., even though they know it is killing them? Like that. That is the difficulty. I know because I quit smoking and God! I know how tough that was! Hahahahahahaha! --- On Tue, 27/4/10, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 April, 2010, 11:36 AM if one does not want to then it is not possible of course :-) anything requires determination. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla From: Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:18:22 PM Subject: Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam It's not easy. The concept is excellent, but actual practice ... --- On Sun, 25/4/10, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail. com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail. com Subject: Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 2:03 PM One person people should invariable judge is their own selves. And this should be unbiased and fairly critically done. Aditya On 25 April 2010 12:33, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: People often judge others and decide to put them in categories 'good' 'bad'. We our self as gay persons often feel that we are targeted and are judged and categorized as a bad unhealthy person by others. This brings about guilt, grief and sorrow in our self but don't worry, no one has a power to judge or categories us or anyone. Everyone is a valid and authorized recipient of love affection and compassion. Do not see yourself through the eyes of others, THEY may be at fault. I am sharing a small poem forwarded to me by a friend I was shocked, confused, bewildered As I entered Heaven's door, Not by the beauty of it all, Nor the lights or its decor. But it was the folks in Heaven Who made me sputter and gasp-- The thieves, the liars, the sinners, The alcoholics and the trash. There stood the kid from seventh grade Who swiped my lunch money twice. Next to him was my old neighbor Who never said anything nice. Herb, who I always thought Was rotting away in hell, Was sitting pretty on cloud nine, Looking incredibly well. I nudged Jesus, 'What's the deal? I would love to hear Your take. How'd all these sinners get up here? God must've made a mistake. 'And why is everyone so quiet, So sombre - give me a clue.' 'Hush, child,' He said, 'they're all in shock. No one thought they'd be seeing you here..' JUDGE NOT !! Remember...Just going to place of worship doesn't make you a Religious/virtuous person any more than standing in your garage makes you a car. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyo padhyay.webs. com/ = = == Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principles, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principles, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public. one
Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam
It's not easy. The concept is excellent, but actual practice ... --- On Sun, 25/4/10, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: g_b Dont Judge anyone-please this is no spam To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 25 April, 2010, 2:03 PM One person people should invariable judge is their own selves. And this should be unbiased and fairly critically done. Aditya On 25 April 2010 12:33, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: People often judge others and decide to put them in categories 'good' 'bad'. We our self as gay persons often feel that we are targeted and are judged and categorized as a bad unhealthy person by others. This brings about guilt, grief and sorrow in our self but don't worry, no one has a power to judge or categories us or anyone. Everyone is a valid and authorized recipient of love affection and compassion. Do not see yourself through the eyes of others, THEY may be at fault. I am sharing a small poem forwarded to me by a friend I was shocked, confused, bewildered As I entered Heaven's door, Not by the beauty of it all, Nor the lights or its decor. But it was the folks in Heaven Who made me sputter and gasp-- The thieves, the liars, the sinners, The alcoholics and the trash. There stood the kid from seventh grade Who swiped my lunch money twice. Next to him was my old neighbor Who never said anything nice. Herb, who I always thought Was rotting away in hell, Was sitting pretty on cloud nine, Looking incredibly well. I nudged Jesus, 'What's the deal? I would love to hear Your take. How'd all these sinners get up here? God must've made a mistake. 'And why is everyone so quiet, So sombre - give me a clue.' 'Hush, child,' He said, 'they're all in shock. No one thought they'd be seeing you here..' JUDGE NOT !! Remember...Just going to place of worship doesn't make you a Religious/virtuous person any more than standing in your garage makes you a car. little prince-Sanjay N Lulla -- -- ADITYA BONDYOPADHYAY Development Sector Consultant Advocate (Regd. No. F-218/192 of 1997, Bar Council of W.Bengal, India) Website: http://adityabondyo padhyay.webs. com/ = = == Notice to all recipients: Communication not intended for you but reaching you inadvertently needs to be treated as confidential and destroyed or deleted immediately. Use of such communication in a manner prejudicial to the interest of Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principles, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively, may attract legal proceedings which may be of a civil or criminal nature. Aditya Bondyopadhyay and/or his principles, and/or his clients, and/or his agents respectively cannot be held liable or accountable for any and every communication reaching out through this email account that is an unaltered forward of another communication received by this email account, or a referred source available on the internet and accessible to the public.
Re: g_b usinjg office computer... help me
Use the office computer ONLY for office work, not for anything else, not even if it is not vulgarity and not even to write personal correspondence as you are liable to disciplinary action on the grounds of misusing the office facilities for personal purposes. Do not use the office computers, not even to ask your 97 year old aunt in America (or wherever) how she is - that is a breach of conduct. If you HAVE to use the computer, apply for permission and get it in writing from the boss himself. Otherwise, do not use the computer. By the way, this applies to EVERYTHING official. Do not use the office letterhead paper, the envelopes, the postage stamps, the franking machine .. anything. Okay? Let there be a clear cut demarkation between office and personal, specially as you are under observation and a marked man now. Alternatively, switch to another organisation where playing games on the office computer in lunch time is so cool that you can even beat the boss at chess. But in this organisation, behave or quit. Before you are flung out in disgrace. From your letters, it is obvious that your current workplace is strict and disciplined (and congrats to them about that - that is how an office should be). Regards and God Bless. --- On Thu, 18/3/10, Ran Raj ranra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ran Raj ranra...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b usinjg office computer... help me To: sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Cc: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, hindigaysto...@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 18 March, 2010, 11:44 AM hi to all , pl help me with this problem .i work in a office we have 30 computer for all departments , we work on net work online, i have a senior he is such that he spyies detects me all time , these days he reads all my word documents where i write mails in advance to my frnds ,family , in my word document so when i work in store he comes to my system and read them or just see the name of document then may be he reads it online or som RAR -network server my document name thing came in hyperlink if u right klik u have hyperlink option where we can see recently browse web page, recent file ,recent documents once i klik it and saw my documents name ther as i didnt open so i got suspect on him as he alone comes and my ststem is shared with these 2 seniors and also there is a printer,with scanner on network with so i doubt hthat he has done some settings in system where my documents are saved as i used to read all these stories saved here so pl help me what i do : 1.should i write my mails in word for mailing or not 2 if in internet options -tools - delete all history with cookies then is there any chance of finding my mails through main network server or not 3.pl do tell me safe way to browse i.e mails an d read these stories 4. a s he sees my documents all time to see its name and ,ther is scannes so is it possible to copy my mails or these photos which i see by making some settings or not pl tell me help me , i saw him reading my personal letter to my family in my document i preten to be unknown but i know he is spying on me pl help me pl thanks ran - Forwarded Message From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 10:11:23 AM Subject: [hg4] Happy New year Wishing all the Sindhis, Marathis, Kanagadis and Kashmiri members a very happy Cheti Chand, Gudi Padva, Ugadi and a Navreh. May this first day of the New year mark New beginings for you. God bless with love and lakhs and lakhs of good wishes Wihout Wax yours little prince-Sanjay N Lulla The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b problem
Dear Ran Raj, Such people are there in every office. My only advice is: In office, do office work from the office computer. Do personal work from home or from a Cyber Cafe. Or find a boyfriend who will let you use his computer free of charge and is someone you can trust. Regards. Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
Re: g_b can we help her?
Try the Sathya Sai Hospital at Bangalore. I have heard that it is a free hospital for all ailments and that it is super speciality and doing very humanitarian work. The patient will be taken care of free of charge. Those attending with her will have to bear their own expenses. This means that you have to travel there on your own money, stay and eat on your own money and return on your own money BUT all hospitalisation, medicines and surgery, care before and after operation etc. will all be free for the patient. The Brahma Kumaris at Andheri West are also doing very good humanitarian service. Outside Andheri West Station. That is also a hospital. You can get more information on such institutes from the web or go to Andheri West for Brahma Kumaris and to Andheri East near Holy Spirit Hospital to Satya Sai Temple for more information. All the Best and God Bless! --- On Wed, 24/2/10, Manish T tmanis...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Manish T tmanis...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b can we help her? To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 24 February, 2010, 7:21 PM hello this is mandar m physiotherapist i have a patient with Dawn syndrome she is 2yr old cute little angel with VSD which has to be operated soon but her parents can not afford the expences for surgery so if anyone knows the way to get help plz let me know as soon as possible can we help her The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads.yahoo.com/in/internetexplorer/
Re: g_b happy birthday aditya
Yes, I agree. Thanks, Sanjay, for telling us that today is Aditya's birthday. Aditya, WISH YOU A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY! --- On Sat, 20/2/10, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b happy birthday aditya To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, 20 February, 2010, 1:07 PM Let us take a moment to wish Aditya Bandopadhya a very happy birthday. Love him, hate him u cant ignore him and cnt do without him. Heres wishing him all the best. Cheers. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b Re: Indian cocks are smaller than the rest
LEFTOVER CHEESE?! Did he want a dick smiling for a photograph! Hahahahaha! Takes all types to make a world! Thanks for a hearty laugh! Now I have heard it all! Thanks again! --- On Fri, 1/1/10, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b Re: Indian cocks are smaller than the rest To: adit.b...@gmail.com adit.b...@gmail.com Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 1 January, 2010, 10:19 PM Oh dear! Isnt it much ado over nothing? Yes mention of such things does make the threads exciting. But I beg thee, please tell, what purpose does all these surveys serve? Each one to his own preference. A certain Mr. once disclosed to me that he prefers a dick with leftover cheese so he wldnt mind a teeny wienie as long as the cheese is there. So leave it at that. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
RE: g_b Re: Indian cocks are smaller than the rest
When my driver and I made love for the first time, I complimented him on his size, bigger than mine. He told me that the bigger the organ, the poorer the man and the smaller the organ, the richer the man! I had read in the Readers' Digest that when one argues with a fool, there are two fools talking and so I did not argue with him on this. But I could not help rolling in laughter. And then there was no need to argue. He understood that he had spoken like a fool. But the beliefs people can have! God! The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
RE: g_b Delhi Archbishop demands repeal of court ruling on homosexuality
Many are also doing it for cheap popularity - publicity stunt. They should stick to wardrobe malfunctions instead, yar! --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Adrian revadr...@ymail.com wrote: From: Adrian revadr...@ymail.com Subject: RE: g_b Delhi Archbishop demands repeal of court ruling on homosexuality To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 2:23 AM . I tell ya …these catholic righteous hypocrites. Boy Lovers lol hahah The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b URGENT New Year party feedback required
My opinion is that Aham's suggestion is excellent and worth implementing - far from stupid! Congrats, Aham! --- On Wed, 2/12/09, Aham aham.ra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Aham aham.ra...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b URGENT New Year party feedback required To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Cc: Vikram Doctor vg...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 3:33 PM Hi Vikram and Dee, I am not a party person, i spend my new year watching filmstars gyrating their kamars to chamiya numbers on TV. 2300 is a lot of money, but then even 1800 would be... it depends on which party we are comparing this party with.. Subjective che... People who spend at parties will spend at parties, Irrespective of what the charge is. And Wallah! this is new year yaar. Special events come with special exotic price. And 2300 is with Unlimited Food and Daaru... and most of our party hoppers on new year want to get sloshed without having to weigh their wallets after every drink. So feel the deal is super sexy though keemti. This year, it is much different, it is the first new year party after S377 wala verdict. So we can expect a lot of shoo shaa and fanfare this year. The karma people might be just capitalizing on this. may be. Karma is a known venue. so people will connect to it. And yes, trying a new venue on new years would definitely be a bad idea... Aur ek baat, with the risk of sounding stupid, i have a proposal to make. How about charging Rs. 100 more.. (2300 or 2400 doesnt make much of a difference.. or does it?) and donating that extra amount to some non gay charitable cause. Like say.. fulfilling dying wishes of children from make a wish foundation.. or say sponsoring x number of children ka education for a year or so.. I feel it will be an extremely positive vibe that we will send out to the world / the media et al. with this act. or with that amount.. could also contribute to co own Onir's film I Am Omar which is based on section 377... Given that GB is associated with it anyways? Just a thought i shared.. may be stupid. Smiles :) Aham --- On Tue, 12/1/09, vgd67 vg...@yahoo. co.uk wrote: From: vgd67 vg...@yahoo. co.uk Subject: g_b URGENT New Year party feedback required To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:19 PM Hi everyone, I'm emailing this in my capacity as one of the GB party organisers, and we need some URGENT feedback about the New Year's Party. As so many of you know, this has been GB's way of both ending and starting the year with a blast, and we're hoping to do so again this year. Every year we've seen the numbers at the party rise - I think last year we touched 600. A lot of these are people who come from out of town for the party, though we've noticed that as the evening goes on, quite a lot of locals who were planning their own parties, can't resist dropping by as well! Its the one time of the year we can party till 4 am and everyone wants to take advantage of that. We've had parties at a number of venues, with some memorable ones, not always for the best reasons - yes, the name of a place called Chat Masala is burned in my mind, for the almost total chaos of that night. Its the one time we've been caught between people inside complaining it was too packed, and others outside begging to be let in, no matter how packed it was. Total chaos, though I'm sure it was fun for some... For the last few years we've stuck to our regular party venue of Karma/Liquid Lounge at Girgaum Chowpatty, since we've found it large enough (we take over the whole ground floor), reasonably accessible (near Charni Road train station), quite well laid out, and acceptable service and food and alcohol. And the prices, while unavoidably higher for New Year's, have been substantially lower than most other New Year Parties (we've had straight people trying to crash since its been such a good deal!) We would like to stick with Karma, since if one thing Chat Masala taught us is that best not to try new places on New Year's. But there's been a change of management at Karma and the new team is approaching it as they would New Years anywhere else - which is simply a venue's best change to make money all year long. In the last few years, as this habit of going out to party has grown, the importance of New Year's as a moneyspinner for a venue has just increased hugely. So the new team at Karma is just looking at it this way, which I suppose I can't object to, but its still a bit tough for us. They started off negotiations this year at a really high price, and while Dee has managed to bargain them down, and make sure they stick to the usual unlimited alcohol and dinner deal, its still working out quite high, Last year, entry (unlimited booze, till 4 am, etc etc) was was Rs1800. This year it looks like the best we can do is around Rs2300 - a a straight Rs500 up over last year.
Re: g_b Call to boycott HSBC Bank for Homophobia: In Solidarity with Pratap Paikary
Very sad. My unstinted support to Pratap Patrick Paikaray who regularly wishes me on Divali, 1st Jan and many other festive days despite the fact that we have never ever met. A very warm hearted, kind and loving individual. All please do support him in any which way you can, your support is not for the wrong person. Blut Fontaine. --- On Sat, 5/9/09, ravi iyer ravica...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: ravi iyer ravica...@yahoo.co.in Subject: Re: g_b Call to boycott HSBC Bank for Homophobia: In Solidarity with Pratap Paikary To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Sogi sogi-l...@arc-international.net Date: Saturday, 5 September, 2009, 4:32 PM can some of the media people in this group, or friends of us if they are in the media not highlight this ? an article in the newspaper ? show them that pratap is not alone, and they cannot get away with these cheap tactics? From: Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail. com To: Sogi sogi-l...@arc- international. net Sent: Friday, 4 September, 2009 10:19:34 PM Subject: g_b Call to boycott HSBC Bank for Homophobia: In Solidarity with Pratap Paikary Dear all, Please read the horrible way in which HSBC Bank has treated Pratap Paikary, an openly gay individual from Bangalore who has been active in various activist efforts in India as well. The full course of correspondence is pasted below. It is shameful that an international bank that claims to be the world's local bank catering to every individual's needs, would stoop to these cheal and disgusting levels against a person, merely because of his homosexuality. It is now not in any doubt that this bank suffers from almost incurable homophobia. As a concerned individual and as an activst who has fought against homophobia in all spehere that it exhibits itself, I send out this appeal to all of you to boycott HSBC Bank. Please hit back where it hurts the bank most, deny them the privilege to handle your money. Here is what you can do: Close your savings and current accounts with the HSBC bank and move it to another bank that knows how to respect LGBTI persons If you have taken loans from HSBC, please renegotiate these loans with another bank and move it to them. Return your HSBC Credit cards Do not let HSBC manage your assets or your investment portfolio. I am sure if you have anyother form of dealings with HSBC you would also agree to close them and move themto other more civilised banks. Please spread this request to all your LGBTI networks and groups, and to all supporters, so that HSBC learns that a persons sexuality is his business and not theirs. So that they learn that respect is a local trait everywhere and the world's local bank needs to show it to individuals. Best regards, Aditya Bondyopadhyay From: Tristan Tadhgh O'Legion tristantadhgholegio n...@gmail.com Dear Mike, It has come to my attention that in addition to spying on my phone and following me around, the Asian hierarchy of HSBC [in particular, Ms Naina Lal Kidwai, Head of HSBC India, Ms Sonal Davé, COO of HSBC India and Mr Rumi Contractor, Head of HSBC GR] has now descended to bribing or otherwise coercing prospective employers not to hire me [having already had some success in this regard with my (former) friends and lawyers]. Needless to say, this is illegal in addition to being unethical and flies in the face of the bank's stated concern for my wellbeing [as elaborated upon by Mr G Ahluwalia] and the relieving letter wishing me 'success in my future endeavours'. It is admittedly ingenuously homophobic. I also suffered an unfortunate accident yesterday which I survived [but not without significant injury]: I would like to believe that the bank had nothing to do with it. However, you may come to find that buying the entire judicial and legal system in this country [not to mention my extended family and the national media] is going to be a somewhat tenuous proposition even for Europe's largest bank [and the world's richest]. I do not believe that any of this has either your authorisation or your consent. Please arrange to have this harassment stopped STAT [as in yesterday if that is possible]. Yours sincerely, Pratap Patrick Paikaray [Bengalūru, South India]. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tristan Tadhgh O'Legion tristantadhgholegio n...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM Subject: Continuing harassment [Fwd: CONSVMMΛTVM EST: Endgame: No access to Compliance Disclosure Telephone Line/HGHQ/HSBC now, at least not from my workstation! !!] To: MichaelGeoghegan@ hsbc.com Dear Mike, Two months back on 26th June, '09, Mr Gaurav Ahluwalia [SVP, HR, HSBC India] offered me financial assistance [read bribe] to the tune of approximately five lakh Indian Rupees [on behalf of Ms NL Kidwai Mr Rumi Contractor] to 'resign', an offer I was happy to accept. I had presumed that this would stop
Re: g_b Happy New Year
Hi Asfan! Wishing you too a Very Happy Pateti and Navroze Mubarak! --- On Tue, 18/8/09, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b Happy New Year To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009, 6:05 AM Wishing all Zoroastrian Bawajis, Iranis and the whole wide world a happy Pateti (18th - the last day of the outgoing year) and Naoroze Mubarak (19th - the New Year). Best wishes for a happy and prosperous New Year. A few years ago while posting these greetings I had expressed the wish that 377 be relegated to the limbo. Well, it has nearly happened and if the Supreme Court, in its wisdom, does the needful it would be wonderful. My kudos once again to all responsible for it. asfan Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b Fwd: ECOSOC resolution on AIDS: mentions Action Framework....!!?? [1...
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Re: g_b any skin specialist in mumbai
Why don't you just look up a Yellow Pages, dear? I stay in Girgaon area, but, if I was you, I would merely check out Tata Press Yellow Pages or something! Try the following numbers:- B2B Yellow Pages Mumbai's JUST DIAL: 3999 Forbes Yellow Pages 4545 4545 Citizen's Yellow Pages 6777 Infomedia Yellow Pages 4141 4141 (which formerly was Tata Press Yellow Pages until Infomedia took it over) and finally MTNL's website advertised on their telephone directory: GETITINDIA.COM Hope this helps! Regards and God Bless! --- On Tue, 21/7/09, vishal shah anil_seth1...@yahoo.co.in wrote: From: vishal shah anil_seth1...@yahoo.co.in Subject: g_b any skin specialist in mumbai To: garamj...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 3:37 PM dear members, I wanna consult skin problem with doctor. Near by my area i have all ladies with whom i am not comfortable. pls any of u or yours doctor especially in thane or vashi near by pls get their details. thanks and regards anil seth Yahoo! recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. See the Web#39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Yahoo! Buzz. http://in.buzz.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b Baba Ramdev May Face Criminal Action Under Section 509 IPC
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Re: g_b Breaking News--Homosexuality Can Be Cured!
I had read a critic write that Doordarshan is much more funny when it is inadvertently funny. The same applies to this esteemed His Holiness Baba Ramdev, who seems to prefer talking through his hole. --- On Sat, 4/7/09, modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in wrote: From: modera...@gaybombay.in modera...@gaybombay.in Subject: g_b Breaking News--Homosexuality Can Be Cured! To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombaygroup gay_bombaygr...@yahoogroups.com, GayAhmedabad gayahmeda...@googlegroups.com, GayBangalore gaybangal...@googlegroups.com, GayBombay gaybom...@googlegroups.com, gay-bombay gay-bom...@yahoogroups.com, GayBombay Blogger gaybombay.sasha1...@blogger.com, gaybombaygroup gaybombaygr...@googlegroups.com, gay-bombaygroup gay-bombaygr...@yahoogroups.com, Gaybombayonline gaybombayonl...@googlegroups.com, Gaycalcutta gaycalcu...@googlegroups.com, gaycalcuttagr...@yahoogroups.com, GayChennai gaychen...@googlegroups.com, GayChennaiYahooGroup gaychennaigr...@yahoogroups.com, GayDelhi gayde...@googlegroups.com, GayIndia gayin...@googlegroups.com, Gayindiagroup gayindiagr...@googlegroups.com, GayMumbai gaymum...@yahoogroups.com, GayMumbai gaymum...@googlegroups.com, gb-group gb-gr...@yahoogroups.com, LGBTIndia lgbtin...@googlegroups.com, lgbt-india lgbt-in...@yahoogroups.com, time84x...@post. wordpress. com time84x...@post.wordpress.com Date: Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 11:13 PM Reacting to the Delhi High Court judgment, Baba Ramdev says homosexuality can be cured ,, all you have to do is some yoga... Jai Ho Ramdev Mahraj.. You have claimed a cure for HIV, Cancer and now you say Gays are sick... and some asanas can cure them of their disease.. Run Baba Ramdev run.. Patent your revolutionary findings! Email: modera...@gaybombay .in Web Sites: www.gaybombay. in www.gaybombay. info www.gayindia. org E Groups: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/gay_ bombay http://groups. google.com/ group/Gaybombay GB Internet Radio http://www.gaybomba y.in/gbradio Gaybombay breaking news and annoucements http://labs. google.co. in/smschannels/ subscribe/ Gaybombay Emergency Helpline number 9820565885 Orkut: http://www.orkut. co.in/Main# Community. aspx?cmm= 22091955 Blogs: http://gaybombay. blogspot. com http://gaybombay. wordpress. com Twitter http://twitter. com/gaybombay Facebook facebook.com/ gaybombay Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com
Re: g_b Re: [GB] A suggestion
Thank you for an excellent suggestion, Mr. Asfan! Thank you, Mr. Vivek, for the email id. I was unaware of the helpline and I am sure there are others like me, who will benefit by knowing that it exists. Thanks. --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lov...@yahoo.in wrote: From: Shatrughna Phadke shatru_lov...@yahoo.in Subject: Re: g_b Re: [GB] A suggestion To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 1:34 PM thanks Asfan and others its a really good suggetion. I am sure you will get good response to this. --- Shatru --- On Mon, 13/4/09, Vivek R Anand avive...@gmail. com wrote: From: Vivek R Anand avive...@gmail. com Subject: g_b Re: [GB] A suggestion To: gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Cc: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Monday, 13 April, 2009, 6:20 PM If anyone desires to seek professional support you can always write to qs_...@hotmail. com This email help line is accessed by gay friendly pshycologist, pshciatrist, professionally qualified counsellors, doctors and an advocate to provide legal support. Vivek On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:43 PM, asfan asfa...@yahoo. com wrote: Dear Moderators, Very often there are requests from group members for help with their problems, resulting in a plethora of suggestions from other members. Though well-meant, most of these suggestions are either inane or reflect on the immaturity of the “helpers” themselves. Many of those offering suggestions seem to be very young themselves. If taken seriously, they may do more harm than good. I would suggest that the gb and g_b group monitors set up panels of psychiatrists, counsellors, doctors, etc., and that such requests be forwarded to the respective person/s directly for an answer. The question and the answer can be then posted on the group site ( like an agony aunt/uncle column). No more discussion should be allowed on the matter to prevent any misunderstanding to occur. I have suggested this as I feel (very seriously) that quite a bit of harm/confusion may befall the member of the group who has the problem if the current state of affairs prevails. I do hope that my appeal is taken in the right spirit it is meant to be. Many thanks, Asfan. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger. yahoo..com/ invite/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com
Re: g_b child abuse
What enrages me most is when I hear of someone who has forced himself upon a girl or boy who has no knowledge of what is happening and left that girl or boy with grevious injuries or with such a mental trauma that that boy or girl can no longer live a normal life. A different, sick or perverted sexuality then becomes an outlet for the victim, and not his choice. As Asfan said, all forms of paedophilia are wrong, this is the worst. You are lucky to have had one of the better forms of paedophilia, but surely, you would condemn those who have caused untold suffering and misery? --- On Wed, 8/4/09, mad cow madc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: mad cow madc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b child abuse To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009, 10:09 AM hi to all readers, its nice to read all msgs about child abuse as far as i know i was molested by a 55 year old man in my boarding at that time i was 13 year old boy, and belive me he was that first person with whom i had sex and even today i miss him a lot. he is no more in this world but many a time i still think of him now iam 50, i never regreted having sex with him becoz he was s caring and loving person and at that time i was in need of support in the boarding and he was the person who gave me support like father and a lover , so i will never regret about it but i still feel about him i want give hi in return i want to suport him now becoz iam well enough to do but he is no more in this world GOD KEEP HIM REST IN PEACE. thas all i can say . Iam msging this mail becoz when i read all theese mail here some time it hurts to read becoz most of the people here they just abuse those guys who had sex with minor boys, i dont think most of the adults are bad its all depend what kind of person we get so plz think before u abuse to adults.I NEVER REGRETED HAVING SEX WITH THAT 55 YEAR OLD PERSON I STILL LOVE HIM. best regards to all. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b child abuse
Nice to know. BUT, this is not what happens to everybody. It IS necessary to safeguard the interests of those who can be cruelly abused - or used AGAINST their wishes, WITHOUT their knowledge and/or consent. Would you not agree, Mehrdadji? Regards. --- On Mon, 6/4/09, mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642...@yahoo.com wrote: From: mehrdad forouhar mehrdad642...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b child abuse To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 1:34 PM hi..i as an adult now ,have experienced child abuse when i was about 10yrs old but it was not so horrible for me at that time and now also i have not any bad feeling about it and i know so many guys that has had sex with other men when thery were minor and they also feels good about it..in my case ii wsa my uncle who approched me for fondlig and then sex and now i also sse him but he is married and we never talk abouti it...i also have sex with guys now,,and i never feels bad about my childhood... . Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/
Re: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion
Dear Shatru Lovely, Your suggestion is excellent, but the problem remains in putting it into practice. I have been reading often enough in newspapers about the protests from conservative parents when the school attempts to intoduce sex education as a subject in the curriculum for the year! Now, if the teachers cannot teach sex education in schools, if even textbooks teaching sex education are taboo, we have a long way to go before we reach the stage where your good hearted and excellent suggestions can be implemented! Till then, it is every parent for his/her children and God for all! Regards. --- On Fri, 3/4/09, shatru_lovely shatru_lov...@yahoo.in wrote: From: shatru_lovely shatru_lov...@yahoo.in Subject: g_b Harish's story and child abuse--A suggestion To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 3 April, 2009, 8:34 PM Like Harish, there may be many in this community who might have suffered from child abuse in their early age of puberty. My suggestion is, such victims should form a group and visit schools, colleges, play ground etc. and educate students as to what is child abuse and how they should fight against it. Let them know whom to approach in such cases, let the child know that he is not alone. May be some NGO is already working in the same direction I am not sure but the efforts are not enough. I have observed that either a child is not at all educated or is over educated. Both are dangerous. Not only children's but parents also need to be educated. Following are some instructions I found on one site. Does your child know the meaning of sex abuse? Did you know that one in three girls in the world is sexually abused before reaching the age of eighteen, and one in four before the age of fourteen? In the case of boys, one in six is sexually abused before the age of sixteen. Quite shocking, to say the least. According to sociologist David Finkelhor, who has conducted a massive study on child sexual abuse in over 19 countries besides the United Statesand Canada, sex abuse percentages in most countries are comparable with North American research figures. The overall percentages range from 7% to 36% for girls and 3% to 29% for boys. Most of these studies found females to be abused at 1.5 to 3 times more than boys. We can clearly see that sexual abuse is an international problem and not restricted to just a few countries in the world. In fact, after countries like Philippines, Sri Lanka and Thailand, countries like Nepal, India and Cambodia are facing an increasing number of paedophiles. A research carried out by Sakshi, a New Delhi-based non-governmental organization, says that 80% of Indian girls and women, belonging to all social classes, experience sexual abuse in their own families and friend circle. Majority of them prefer to remain silent. According to the State of Child Rights in India, incidences of child abuse are definitely on the rise especially since the nineties. It is quite shocking to know that - 66% sexual offenders know their victims. - 32% paedophiles have abused their own children. - 49% paedophiles are attracted to unstable children. WHAT EXACTLY IS CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE? Child sexual abuse is any sexual contact between a child and another person (from fondling to rape) with or without force. People who prefer sexual activity with a child are known as 'paedophiles' . It is important to remember that such offenders are completely 'responsible' and guilty in the abuse, even if they have taken the consent of the minor child. The consent of a child is not considered to be any consent at all. It is imperative to note that family members or close neighbors or frustrated fellow mates can manipulate children. Little wonder that one out of every six abusers is a child. They can be homosexual or even heterosexual. Paedophiles are usually male and could come from almost any socio-economic background. HOW TO PREPARE YOUR CHILD 1. Never scare a child about sexual abuse. Panic will beget panic. Your child may get overcautious about people. This will also affect the child's everyday vigour and spontaneity, which is the ultimate source of joy in a parent's life. But of course, it is always better to be safe than sorry. Therefore, teach him or her ground rules without injecting fear. 2. Teach your children the names of the different parts of the body. Take this step further by specifying the private parts. Tell the child that these parts should not be touched by anyone, not even close friends. 3. Your behaviour with your spouse can be a role model for the children. Therefore, until your children understand the importance of a healthy sexual relationship, do not display overt affection to your partner in front of the children. If the children ever touch your private parts, which most children playfully do in their very early years, be firm and tell them not to ever repeat it. A correct message should be conveyed with regard
Re: g_b 'I was a victim of incest for 11 long years'
Congratulations to Harish for surviving this ordeal and emerging a stronger person! Congrats and all the best for a bright, successful and prosperous future. He should have one, after all he has been through and also all the best to him in finding true love!Regards and God Bless!--- On Tue, 31/3/09, Moderator modera...@gaybombay.in wrote:From: Moderator modera...@gaybombay.inSubject: g_b 'I was a victim of incest for 11 long years'To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "GayAhmedabad" gayahmeda...@googlegroups.com, "GayBangalore" gaybangal...@googlegroups.com, gaybom...@googlegroups.com, "GayBombayGroup" gaybombaygr...@yahoogroups.com, gaybombaygr...@googlegroups.com, "Gaycalcutta" gaycalcu...@googlegroups.com, gaycalcuttagr...@yahoogroups.com, "GayChennai" gaychen...@googlegroups.com, "gaychennaigr...@yahoogroups. Com" gaychennaigr...@yahooogroups.com, "GayDelhi" gayde...@googlegroups.com, "GayIndia" gayin...@googlegroups.com, "GayIndiaGroup" gayindiagr...@googlegroups.com, "GayMumbai" gaymum...@googlegroups.com, "LGBTIndia" lgbtin...@googlegroups.comDate: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 9:02 PM Hi all Posting the story of brave Harish who is a member of this group. Incidentally, he was among the handful who had replied to my request on article that I was writing in LGBT life post 26/11 attacks in Mumbai. May we have more courageous guys like Harish in this world, and especially in the LGBT community. Regards Moderator ‘I was a victim of incest for 11 long years’ Incited by the Mira Road incest-rape, Harish Iyer tells the inspiring story of how he picked up the pieces after being sodomised since he was just seven years old http://www.mumbaimi rror.com/ index.aspx? Page=articlesectname=News% 20-%20Citysectid=2contentid=200903272 0090327020450873 91e1728e By Malay Desai Posted On Friday, March 27, 2009 at 02:04:51 AM Last week, just as an Austrian court sentenced monster dad Josef Fritzl to life for sequestering and raping his own daughter for 24 years, another horrific story emerged – the Mira Road rape and incest case. As all those who knew the victims hid in the shadows trying to comprehend how they failed to see what was going on, one man decided to come out of the dark and speak openly about the incest-rape he suffered as a child. Since he was just seven, Harish Iyer, now 29, was sodomised by his maternal uncle. “I remember when he started bathing me. I was initially unmindful, and so was my family. Who’d think there’s something fishy in an uncle giving a bath to his nephew? However, I started realising that something was wrong two-three months down, when the actual abuse began,” he recalls. “The brutality assumed greater proportions as I grew up, entering my teens. Each invasion on my body was also one on my psyche. I soon started turning into a numb, lifeless being. The few times I summoned the courage to oppose, he threatened to kill me or have my parents killed. I was terrified and told no one about my suffering,” reveals Harish, who works as a creative manager at an event management company. “I began living in my own shell, murmuring to imaginary friends, writing in a diary and crying my heart out, burying my head in my dog Jimmy’s paws. But I kept giving in, unable to say no… till I was 18. Then one day, he pounced on me and I kicked him. That was all it took for him to stop for good. Looking back, I realised I should have given that kick much earlier.” But this was far from the end: “When, I told my parents they were obviously shocked and in a fit of rage, my father accused me of having enjoyed the ordeal since I had not voiced my dissent. This completely changed our relationship, perhaps forever. “I had just one friend and I had poured my heart out to him. But he turned on me and told everyone in college. Apart from frequent taunts and giggles, there was soon graffiti in the men’s loos with my name and number scribbled under the words ‘gay sex’. “I had hit rock bottom and attempted suicide… but fortunately failed. I began to realise that survival was more challenging than escape. The only catalyst behind my positive thoughts was my dog, in whom I found unconditional love. He became my reason for being.” The fact that everyone now knew about his reality only made him stronger and more outspoken. “Activism helped me channelise my frustration. Having a special bond for animals, I started writing to Maneka Gandhi, who heartily replied to each letter. Through various talks, blog activism and impulsive reactions such as the Sita Sena (an angry response to the Ram Sene), I vented my rage towards all stigmas in society.” The persistent rape had taken a toll on Harish’s sexuality, but after a period of self-discovery, he learnt that he is naturally gay. And as for his uncle, though Harish never
Re: g_b Please advice
I suppose you could try warning him that you will approach the college authorities. That should stop him without hurting his career and you will also sleep with a clear conscience. AND I THINK YOU ARE A VERY NICE PERSON! Not to have already approached the authorities and to ask advice here! God Bless you, dear child! --- On Sun, 8/2/09, shatru_lovely shatru_lov...@yahoo.in wrote: From: shatru_lovely shatru_lov...@yahoo.in Subject: g_b Please advice To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 10:10 PM Hey to all my friends!!! I am M18yr from Mumbai. I have observed that my teacher (M 25 to 30), keeps staring at me while teaching. Initially I found it odd but eventually I got used to it and started ignoring it. Yesterday he tried to kiss me in front of some of my friends. I don't mind him kissing me but he wants to do this in front of everybody. Now what do I do? Should I approach college authorities? I don't want to ruin his career. Please advice. Check out the all-new Messenger 9.0! Go to http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b Re: never encountered any such problems
I too have never ever encountered any problems with giving out my name or address or cell number, but I would NOT mock or ridicule anyone who warns us, out of goodwill for us. If someone is our wellwisher and gives us a friendly warning, we would do well to take it in the right spirit. If we disagree, there are always better ways of saying the same, rather than using words like naivee and stupid. Regards. --- On Thu, 15/1/09, arya rez re...@yahoo.com wrote: From: arya rez re...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b Re: never encountered any such problems To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 January, 2009, 2:25 AM hey,never had any problems so far with giving out my cell or my address,so i dont know why this crap dose not happend to me,trust me if it happend to me the guy or guys who come to my place will be in for a big surprise,the beauty of these sites is that you can screen guys before you proceed further either that guys was naviee or stupid. Subject: g_b from G4M website INDIAN MEMBERS PLEASE READ: from G4M website INDIAN MEMBERS PLEASE READ: a guys4men member from Bangalore gave out his address to a stranger on this site, and ended up with people arriving at his door demanding money and threatening him - eventually they got a significant amount of money off him. please never give your personal details out on this site to someone you have never met. especially your home address - but even giving our your cellphone number to strangers is highly inadvisable. a better strategy is to exchange no personal information until you have met the person and are sure of his intentions. the best place for a first meeting is generally a park or a cafe where other members of the public can see you (in case of problems). phil (webmaster) global warming we are workingto make guys4men.com carbon neutral Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b Tuesday's Thought
Asfan is the BEST! --- On Mon, 29/12/08, asfan asfa...@yahoo.com wrote: From: asfan asfa...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b Tuesday's Thought To: gaybom...@yahoogroups.com, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 29 December, 2008, 7:29 PM A customer walks into a pharmacy and asks the assistant for an anal deodorant. The assistant explains that they don't stock them. The man insists that he bought his last one from this store. The assistant passes the man on to the pharmacist who explains that the store has never stocked such an item. The man explains that he bought his last one from this very store only weeks ago and had done so for several years. The pharmacist asks the man to bring in his last purchase and he would try to match the product. The following day the man returns to the pharmacy and shows the deodorant to the pharmacist. The pharmacist asks why the customer thinks this is an anal deodorant when it is obviously of the underarm stick variety. The customer explains that the instructions on the reverse state, Push up bottom to use. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
Re: g_b Important Information
Thank you for the update, Sir! --- On Fri, 5/12/08, Tat Twam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tat Twam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: g_b Important Information To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, 5 December, 2008, 7:57 PM The number 1090 does not seem to be valid across India. It seems to be valid only for Delhi. I searched google, and did not find any single official announcement about this number except for Delhi. So obviously this mail is incorrect. This is also corroborated by the Deccan Herald news: See: http://www.deccanhe rald.com/ CONTENT/Oct32008 /state2008100293 322.asp - - - - - - - - - - - --- Alert mail proves a big headache for helpline From Sibanthi Padmanabha,DHNS, Mangalore: In the name of terror, pranksters seem to be taking people for a ride. The ones facing the music are those manning round-the clock toll free number for senior citizens. A mail is being circulated to netizens for the last two days. It reads Dear all, In case you come across any suspicious activity, any suspicious movement or have any information to tell to the Anti-Terror Squad, please take a note of the new all India toll-free terror helpline 1090. Your city's police or Anti-Terror Squad will take action as quickly as possible. Toll- free The mail also reminds that the number 1090 is valid all over India and it is toll-free, that can be dialled from mobile phones also. Moreover, the identity of the caller will be kept a secret, it assures. In addition to this, it appeals- Let us make each and every citizen of India aware about this facility. Kindly forward this mail to as many as people possible. In fact, 1090 is helpline launched by the State government in 2005 in support of the elderly people in crisis.The Mangalore Police have sought the help of the cyber cell to trace the source of the mail. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:56 PM, lgbtindiagroup lgbtindiagroup@ yahoo.com wrote: DEAR ALL, In case you come across any suspicious activity, any suspicious movement or have any information to tell to the Anti-Terror Squad (ATS),please take a note of the new ALL INDIA TOLL-FREE Terror Help-line 1090. Your city's Police or Anti-Terror squad will take action as quickly as possible. Remember that this single number 1090 is valid all over India This is a toll free number and can be dialed from mobile phones also. Moreover, the identity of the caller will be kept a secret. Let us make each and every citizen of India aware about this facility. Please forward this mail to as many people as possible, and tell everyone individually also. Never expect things to happen. struggle and Make them happen. -- -- - Preyas For true friendship.. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b 26/11
Yes, Sir! The Army WOULD INDEED be more disciplined, but the Army would be headed by only ONE man. Now, if that man went mad and power crazy, we have examples before us of Hitler and even of almost all the leaders of Pakistan who do not allow even an attempt at democracy to continue to fruition! In our civilian setup, we replace one entire bunch of politicians with another and there is criticism and fault finding and embarassing one another, both, within the party itself as well as between two or more parties and the truth COMES OUT and someone has to go and is replacable and that exercises some control on those who claim to represent the people. Ironically, it is these very controls and restrictions that act as fetters towards progress, but then they also act as barriers towards authoritarian dictatorship! Sir, I had read in a James Hadley Chase book (never did read any highbrow stuff - haha!) that there is no such thing as absolutely right and absolutely wrong in life, neither black, not white, it is all shades of grey! So also, I am not confident of the democratic setup, but I shy at even a dictatorship and overall, I feel that democracy has an edge. Just my opinion, Sir! Regards and Respects. If our eminent Moderator feels that this topic is not esentially gay, I would respect his wishes to discontinue this thread and Asfanji and I could discuss this one to one, if any further discussion is merited. Respects to our Moderator also, and thanks. --- On Tue, 2/12/08, asfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: asfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: g_b 26/11 To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 5:03 PM Thank you. What I meant was that the army would be more disiplined and, HOPEFULLY, less corrupt than the politicians. A lot is being said on this site about getting rid of the current netas. But, the trouble is that the same rotten old tomatoes stand again and again election after election. There are hardly any new faces. And, of the new ones elected last time has anyone done anything worthwhile? I am talking of the likes of Deora, Pilot, Gandhi etc. Of course, since they are dynastic descendants they have the family genes of indolence as far as public service is concerned. Where are the genuine public servants? I feel like the old Greek philosopher who went at night with a lantern seeking an honest politician! --- On Mon, 1/12/08, Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in wrote: From: Bloot Fontaine blutfontaine@ yahoo.co. in Subject: Re: g_b 26/11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Date: Monday, 1 December, 2008, 7:22 PM Not sure that Army Rule WOULD be better. I remember the old saying, Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But I appreciate your sentiments for a stronger India and respect you for the same! Jai Hind! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Connect with friends all over the world.. Get Yahoo! India Messenger. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: g_b 26/11
Not sure that Army Rule WOULD be better. I remember the old saying, Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. But I appreciate your sentiments for a stronger India and respect you for the same! Jai Hind! Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
g_b Fwd: The Priest's Baby!
A woman starts dating a doctor. Before too long, she becomes pregnant and they don't know what to do. About nine months later, just about the time she is going to give birth, a priest goes into the hospital for a prostate gland infection. The doctor says to the woman, I know what we'll do. After I've operated on the priest, I'll give the baby to him and tell him it was a miracle. Do you think it will work? she asks the doctor. It's worth a try, he says. So the doctor delivers the baby and then operates on the priest. After the operation he goes in to the priest and says, Father, you're not going to believe this. What? says the priest. What happened? You gave birth to a child. But that's impossible! I just did the operation, insists the doctor. It's a miracle! Here's your baby. About fifteen years go by, and the priest realizes that he must tell his son the truth. One day he sits the boy down and says, Son, I have something to tell you. I'm not your father. The son says, What do you mean, you're not my father? The priest replies, I'm your mother. The archbishop is your father. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/