g_b I will write.

2007-06-06 Thread suhail khan
  Salil, Thank you, aap ney bahuton kay dill kee baat kah daali.
  -Aditya
 
 
  


I have been in a long term relationship...

I do not know where you get your ideas from, but maybe it stems from some 
personal frustrations. Next time you meet somebody who is relation worthy and 
interested, try giving more to the relationship than you get from it. Of course 
you do not have to transmogrify into a doormat in the process. I think if you 
do that, there is a fair chance that it would work. 
   
  Best,
  Aditya B
  
  
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  On 04/06/07, Salil salilmumbai@ yahoo.com wrote: 
  Suhail
 
 Try writing shorter emails. Many readers of this list ( I guess) have better 
things to do than to read the same sentence thrice, as it happens to appear in 
your email (I did read through the whole of it, only to discover that the email 
was long not because you had much to say, but because u repeated your lines). 
You could have just said - 
 
 1. Some older gay men who have been in and out of relationships don't take my 
views on relationships seriously, and I don't like their attitude because I 
think they are stubborn and mistaken in many ways. 
 2. my advice to all young men is that, well-taken photos increase the chances 
of getting gay dates.

Salil, Thank you, aap ney bahuton kay dill kee baat kah daali.
   -Aditya
 
Bahuton ke dil ki baat kya hai, yeh mujhe bhi pata haiaur khaas taur pe aap 
ko to pata ho gi hi...kyuki aap to har doosre par kuch na kuch sarcastic 
comments pass karte hain.aur agar yaad ho to aap ki is aadat par bhi ek 
baar behes chid chuki haikhair.

The e-mail is very long...it may waste your time 

Hi

First of all I completely agree to what Jamie wrote thats a real complete 
e-mail written very perfectly, but everyone has his/her style of writing and I 
have my own.

Where I get my ideas from, well I get my ideas from people only. And its good 
that you have been in a long term relationship and you should be happy and 
thats really good. But what I dont understand is why do you have to get 
irritated on my e-mail, if you dont like my e-mails say that you dont like them 
you apparently get irritated and always write in a non-pleasent sarcastic 
way...its not a decent behaviour to make indirect references, and please dont 
give advices if I should turn into a doormat or something else, its not 
pleasent. I get several personal replies to my e-mails where it hasnt been a 
single time that someone has not written this please dont take seriously what 
some of the members are saying, continue writing, or I always wait for your 
e-mails or  expressed their appreciation. Some also write 2-3 words like you 
rock and some even say your emails suck to the maximum. So I know if some 
dont like, there are many who like.

About the scene of LTR among gays everyone knows that, you know it, I know it, 
everyone knows it, goto internet and read surveys and other news on LTR among 
gays. And I am not frustrated at all, why should I be frustrated, I have lived 
and am living my life with self-respect and dignity and I am not an old guy 
frustrated with life, I think I am quite young and I have many other things in 
life other than this, and if thats a symbol of high-headedness then you have 
mistaken.

Anyways personally I think you are nice guy, its just that you dont like the 
way I write and its ok, everyone cannot like everyone, but is that a nice thing 
to make such references that if I turn into a doormat, it might work. Its 
not. 

May be the language of my e-mails is too harsh and may be thats why I end up 
irritating few same people all the time. Otherwise there are also always who do 
like what I write. You are a lawyer (I think) and quite a popular known face 
among gays in India, I really dont expect these kind of replies from you where 
it seems you are getting some sort of some satisfaction in belittling the 
writers and most of them know its just not about me, as many personal replies 
said (around 15-20) I stopped writing because of constant bugging from some of 
the members who have no other job than finding faults, entering debates, 
passing comments and insulting

Everyone has his/her opinions if many express them why cant I, I am going to 
express what I think, because I know if there are some who dont like, there are 
obviously many who see it objectively and like. So if you dont like what I 
write you dont have to read the e-mails from me. And if you want to reply, 
reply as much as you want, call 

g_b Re: gb Take on Karan Johar

2007-06-04 Thread suhail khan
Salil Wrote:-

 Hey,

In a recent interview to Cine Blitz, KJ very strongly and angrily denied the 
rumours of him being gay, as also the rumours that he has been in bed with SRK.

This is just for your info.

Cheers
Salil


Oh he denied them very strongly and angrily, well he is director surrounded 
by actors seeing their acting all the time and even correcting acting flaws. 
Anyways.

Yes even I deny many a times being gay in a country which is not homophobic 
compared to India, and I am not even a celebrity in a country where if such a 
news comes Aaj-Tak will continue to telecast it for weeks making an unnecessary 
embarrassment for the person and to a great extent may affect his career and 
personal and social life. If KJ comes out media will no more be interested in 
putting forth questions like:
  Did KJ had a BF in the past?
  Is he seeing someone these days?
  Which actor he likes physically?
  
So he denied it in an interview to Cine Blitz, ok so he is INDEED not gay, and 
thanks for sharing the information, I fully agree on trusting the authenticity 
of replies made by huge celebrities in their interviews. After all we all know 
that Indian celebrities speak their mind and they are always politically 
incorrect and they are far far away from being discreet and diplomatic.

So yes he indeed was truthful, because if he had accepted sleeping with 
shahrukh khan or someone else, oh its no big deal, its no big news in a country 
where the masses are mad about celebrities and SRK is the biggest star, so if 
Karan johar slept with shahrukh khan oh its just like a news that, someone 
stole a coffee-mug from a shop, see in case of Shilpa Shetty, she is not even 
close to a star in India and thats what I am wondering how could she make so 
much news but may be its beyond the comprehension of a morose character.
  If he had agreed sleeping with SRK, it will not affect SRK’s image also at 
all, he will continue to be praised by straights, straights will then never 
speculate SRKs orientation and will watch his romantic movies with equal zest. 
If Karan Johar agrees on being gay, and shahrukh khan continues to act in KJs 
films, then I know media will obviously have no interest in then questioning 
SRKs orientation itself that if not gay he may be bisexual, as we know that, 
right now for no clear-cut reason media is speculating KJs orientation, so if 
KJ comes out then I wonder what questions SRK will have to answer. 
   
  And Karan Johar having gay clicks in his movies like “kal ho na ho”, “kabhi 
alvida na kehna” and asking questions related to homosexuality in many of his 
interviews in KWK, once or twice is ok, but he brings stuff related to 
homosexuality every now and then, so yes all his manners, way of talking, 
walking, laughing, facial expression, his clicks on homosexuality not just once 
or twice but every now and then in his movies and KWK, he is indeed not gay, 
the reason: he denied it in an interview in a country where media is incredibly 
silent and no big news is news and it doesn’t affect anyone’s career and 
peoples opinion and celebrities are far away from being diplomatic.
Getting into an unnecessary arguement is not in me, and some of the replies 
that I get for my e-mails, I only end up feeling sorry for those who wrote 
those replies, some of the replies are good and some argue and state their 
point really well, but some are incredibly stupid and there is absolutely no 
doubt in it, and I feel it an insult to myself to even reply to them.
So this is the last E-mail from me on this topic, for those who think KJ is not 
gay, ok he is not, but its too difficult for me to think that he is not.

And those who are saying that someone calling me a rather morose character 
was not an insult, well please read the way it was written (about meaning of 
the word morose, well everyone has a dictionary and can read what it means, but 
its not about the meaning of the word, its the way he said and what he intended 
(apparently)) , I am not complaining that he called me a morose character, 
because I have also called many a times people many things, its ok if he called 
me that, but arguing on that, that its not an insult, well I dont take that. 
Making references to people may make you an AWWESSSOME COOL DUUDE 
but it definitely doesnt make you a gentleman.

And I am not saying that I am a Gentleman, I know I am not and also that I am 
not some intelligent, subtle, generous, open-minded, non-judgemental guy. This 
is in advance to those stupid kind of replies So you think you are some 
gentleman?. No I am not, I think I am a morose character, oh I forgot an 
e-mail written by someone which gives more appropriate answer: ...Did you 
see his email for yourself ? Morose is an understatement !..Good 
Grief! Now mororse is an understatement, am I really so highly morose?


   
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g_b E-mails not receiving

2007-06-01 Thread suhail khan
Dear Moderator
Hi
I am not receiving e-mails from the group for around one month now, would you 
please look into it and make sure everything is alrite.

Regards

   
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you had opted for no emails. no wonder you were not receiving emails. i have 
changed your option to daily digest. henceforth you will geta  daily digest of 
emails posted on this group

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g_b Life in a metro

2007-06-01 Thread suhail khan
  

  
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  The line that Irfaan is said to have said is the same that people keep 
telling me (and others like me) about marrying a girl -- let it develop and 
you will start loving her -- mahy believe that, get married and after a period 
of marital bliss..back to normal and a worser life filled with neither luv 
nor peace.

Exactly, the people keep telling you above, but here Irfaan Khan himself says 
it, and he is talking about himself he knows how to make things work for him. 
And dont love marriages also break, they also do!
And dude tell me one simple thing if it was just primarily gays who believed 
and practiced extra marital/relation affairs why in the name of heavens is 
prostitution the oldest and such a widespread and profitable trade -- do we 
gays go there too??
  Exactly! but two wrongs dont make a right! And about gays going to 
prostitutes or so on, well there is no need for them, guys are very easily 
available and its always mutual consent, its much easy to get a guy for sex in 
India then a girl, goto guys4men you will atleast find atleast 4 guys and you 
wont have to pay anything to atleast 2 of them, so for gays no I dont think 
gays need special gay prostitutes.

  And if just for my understanding --are you a hetero by any chance or a 
homobhobic chap of sorts? -- ur last lines are like they approve, they 
continue... . a clear sense of differentiation and discrimination and hence 
asking.
  No I am by no means a heterosexual, I am not even bi, I am gay and by no 
means a homophobic one. If you enter an arguement with your parents at home or 
your loved ones, do they question your respect for them, do they ask you if you 
are a rebel, do they think that since you dont agree with some of their ways 
you are against them.

  About how stable gay relationships are and how much do gays believe in 
commitment and even if they do how much are they able to keep that commitment, 
I dont think I need to make statements on that, every gay guy knows the scene 
of long-term-relationships among gays.





   
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g_b Life in a Metro

2007-05-28 Thread suhail khan
This is about life in a metro, the film I watched yesterday Sometimes I wonder 
what films of these kinds are promoting and what messages are they giving, all 
these films approve pre-marital sex and try to validate extra marital 
relationships, and they validate these relationhips on the basis of love, that 
I am sleeping before marriage because I think he loves me, and I sleep with him 
after marriage because I dont think my husband loves me, so its ok if I find 
love outside, I dont understand what nonsense this is, how can two people mock 
the sanctity of a committment such as marriage, why do people get married if 
they dont love, I still find that arrange marriages are much better where 
atleast people make up their mind for their committment and have always in 
their mind the faith and committment, though I agree that life in a metro is 
what is depicted in the movie
I wonder which direction are we moving, where the life in a metro is heading 
towards, unbelievable selfishness of individuals,it is becoming all about me, 
me and me. And people do say that they sometimes find happiness outside their 
present relationships well almost in every such case such a person is never 
satisfied, committment is all about embracing the person completely, I know 
that the film is showing reality but to a great extent its validating 
pre-marital sex
or approving etxra-marital affairs, and girls like Neha girls like her the 
dumbest ever, dont people think before they sleep with anyone. The movie showed 
reality, but it should be shown in a positive way, and not making or portraying 
characters like Neha as some Bechari characters like her just plain 
bitches. Overall I dont like this idea of life in a metro at all. I liked 
when Irfaan khan says Pyar karne se ho jaata hai, thats the way it should be. 
The common trend among gays is that they approve such relationships and affairs 
and that is why they continue to have disastrous relationships no stability
and still the thing is that they continue to think very highly of themselves and
of their ways of life. 


   
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g_b Matrimonial Biodata

2007-05-06 Thread suhail khan

Dear Moderator.
If you decide to start a matrimonial, then here is my biodata:-

Age 24 years.

About Me: I am a simple guy. I have a middle-middle class background.

Educational Background: Holds a Bachelor of Engg. Degree in Elex from a private 
engg. college (all clear throughout 8 semesters). Currently pursuing 
MS-Electrical Engg. from a university in USA.

My eating habits: I dont eat meat, I am a vegetarian but I take eggs. I wish to 
remain the same in future. I dont smoke and I dont drink. If I move to a very 
cold country like Canada then I may drink otherwise I wont.

Qualities I admire in a person: Decency, Courtesy and Respect.

Am I out: No not yet.

Future Plans: I wish to do PhD but may go for a job as well, nothing is certain 
yet.

Where do I want to live my life: Not in India. May be USA or UK.

Where my family lives: My dad is in India, but my only sibling is in USA. I 
love my family and expect the same from other guy.

Is career important for me: Its extremely important.

Guy I am looking for: should be mature, understanding, considerate and frank.

Educational Background of the guy I am looking for: I prefer someone who holds 
atleast a bachelors degree (preferably in Science but thats not a compulsion). 
He should be career conscious and should have goals in life towards which he is 
moving.

Social Background of the guy: Preferably middle-class or upper-middle class.

Religion: Preferably Hindu and it would be even better if he is a Brahmin. 
(Though Religion and Caste are not very important). I am quite a religious 
person and I believe strongly in God. And preferably I would want my partner 
also to be atleast someone who believes in God.

Other qualities I am looking for in a guy: Someone who is straight-forward, 
frank, has love and respect for his parents and siblings. Is cultured and 
respects people of all class.

Physical Stats: I am 5'7 60Kgs and wheatish towards fair complexion. I have 
black hair (little curly and I am not bald and neither I am heading towards 
being one) and black eyes. I dont have acne problem at all. I dont have too 
much hair on my body. I am not suffering from any disease or any genetic or 
hereditory problem by the grace of GOD. I am virgin and I dont have any past 
relationships. I am saying all these because I am not going to show my picture 
to every other guy. Physically I am perfectly fine by the grace of GOD. I look 
little better than average. What everyone says to me that I look quite young 
compared to my age, which is quite true.

Hobbies: I dont have a particular hobby to which I am dedicated. Otherwise I do 
enjoy coloring.

Activities: I love watching TV and Cooking.

Sports: I like sports, not in terms of watching (except tennis), but yes I do 
enjoy playing a few like tennis and may be football.

Books: I am not at all into books.

People I admire: Mahatma Gandhi, Aishwarya Rai, Shahrukh Khan, Mother Teresa, 
His holiness the Dalai Lama.

My favorite movies: Titanic, DDLJ, Abhimaan, Dil Chahta hai, Pretty Woman.

Are looks important for me: I am an average looking guy and I want my partner 
to be atleast average looking.  

Qualities I am looking for in a guy in detail:
He should be mature and by that I mean he should have respect for people of all 
class. He should be independent but not stubborn in his thoughts. He should be 
a good listener and also a good talker. He should know what entering into a 
relationship means, he should know that sometimes its better to make small 
sacrifices in love. When we enter a debate its very important that I agree to 
what you say sometimes, and sometimes you agree to what I say, without 
keeping a record of how many number of times I resigned and how many number of 
times you resigned. Its ok if the guy has ego but he should also know that its 
not good to show ego to people you love.

Guys I dont want:
Bisexuals
Those who smoke and are not ready to give up.
Those who are not career conscious.
Those who do not love and respect their parents and siblings.
Those who had more than 4 boyfriends in the past.
Those who have slept with more than 10 guys in the past.
Those who want to goto every gay party in the town.
Those who want to go on a gay cruise and have some gross fun.
Those who want to dance very very close to their good gay friends after 
drinking a lot.
Guys for whom their straight friends are more important than me.
Guys with the following ideology:-
Life is all about having fun
We get life just for once, I dont want to have any regrets, I will try 
everything
Dont show me attitude, I have tons of my own

Some important points: If you had past relationships I am perfectly fine with 
it, but I would like to know a detailed reply on why it didnt turn out, if you 
dont want to talk about your past relationships then thats not ok with me, 
because I dont want to break my relationship for the same reason on which you 
might have broken up with your Ex. Its ok if the guy loves to drink, but 

g_b When you are looking for a guy!

2007-05-04 Thread suhail khan
Are you seriously looking for a guy? If the answer is yes, means you are 
seriously looking for a guy then there are few things you need to keep in 
mind. However, if you feel the need to have someone in your life only when you 
are in a sad mood, and when you are happy you dont care, then it means that you 
are not seriously looking for a guy, you are seriously looking for a guy only 
when you feel almost the same need of having someone in your life both when you 
are happy and when you are sad.

There are few things which should be kept in mind when you are seriously 
looking for a guy.

Let us suppose that you had few past relationships which didnt materialize for 
one reason or the other, and you still feel for some of your Exs quite a bit, 
though you know that their coming back or you two getting together is not 
possible. At that point it is quite important that you start forgetting them, I 
know it is not easy but I think it is very important for you to have a 
clear-cut mindset about your Exs. By forgetting I dont mean no contacts I mean 
you should forget about them entering your life in one way or the other, though 
in reality you know its impossible.  By Exs I mean either those with whom it 
didnt work out when you both tried together or someone who went to someone else.

So now when you are looking for someone to enter your life, and you have found 
someone (new guy) with whom you are in the process of knowing each other better 
and you like him, you should keep few things in mind:

You have to completely forget your Exs, while you are conversing or chatting 
with the new guy. Many a times it happens that, when you are chatting with the 
new guy and you are quite prompt in responding, all of a sudden one of your Exs 
also comes online and now you are no more prompt in responding to the new guy, 
because someone for whom once you had a heart is now online, this according to 
me is wrong, because in that way your Ex is always going to be in between you 
and the new guy, which means its not a healthy relationship between you and the 
new guy, because the new guy would definitely feel that whenever his Ex comes 
online his replies become very direct and short.

By forgetting your Ex I dont mean that you stop talking to him and dont have 
any contacts with him, what I mean to say is that your replies should continue 
to be detailed to the new guy and short and direct to the Ex, you can chat in 
detail with your Ex once you and the new guy are done.

Because when you are looking for someone whom you want to enter your life, and 
you are still not able to figure out who is more important, the new guy or 
your Ex and other good gay friends if you are not able to draw a line on 
contacts with your Exs and good gay friends, and if they are very very nice 
compared to the new guy, then I wish that the new guy may never enter your life 
because he is not getting anything in return.


Because then it means that you dont understand the importance of a 
relationship. I know that your friends are very nice and your Ex is also a nice 
person, but if they are more nice than me, and if they are getting more time of 
yours than me, then I would say lets not continue any further, and remember 
that I left you not because I dont like you but because I think you still need 
time to understand what you want out of life and who is important to what 
extent.

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Re: g_b Is it something with gays and cricket or is it just me?

2006-04-22 Thread suhail khan



This is so true, I have felt exactly same, being poor at cricket and looking for excuses to avoid the game.gaybombay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is it something with gays and cricket or is it just me?I never liked sports since a kid; I really dunno whether it is due tomy extremely poor hand-body co-ordination or due to my inability tomix comfortably in a group of straight macho guys. I get this reallyuncomfortable queasy feeling when my friends make impromptu plans toplay cricket.Right since when I was a kid, I used to come up with innovative plansto somehow avoid being in the field. The same feeling returned when Iwas spending some great time with all my school buddies yesterday ,catching up with each other's lives and having booze. Then theinevitable question popped up"yaar, chal, cricket khelne
 jaate hain:tu tere neighbour se bat aur ball leker aa". I was like : no guys, notagain. Then as a Pavlonian reflex, my brain started churning upvarious ideas as excuses to avoid playing the dreadful game. I amcertain that my not playing cricket has a very crucial role to play inthe lack of intimacy that I feel amongst my friends.Its as if cricket is an essential component for guys to bond togetherin India. Any social occassion, any party, any get together and theeasiest and shortest route to avoid feeling bored is to play cricket.Since the age of 9, when my cousin bro, very religiously tried toteach me how to place the bat in contact with ball and after realisingthat I was really no good, I have been pathetic at this game.Sometimes I have really fought severe bouts of depression , when Ifelt being excluded off a group due to my unwillingness to play thegame. At times, I blame it on my stubborness and always
 wanting to besome-one different right since a kid. I have been really fortunate tohave a great group of friends from school, who really do not carewhether I play the game or not, but still stick by me always.Well, now to the brighter side of things: Yesterday, was one of thebest Holis of my life( actually, all of them have been realyeventful). I especially wanted to soak myself up in all the coloursand gulaal as this would be my last Holi in India. Played thrice withmy society kids, family friends and my school buddies. Hadboozewhich really lifted my spirits. And eagerly waitingfor tomorrow, when I would be en route to Madhya Pradesh to meet myrealtive. News has it that it raining hail(though gramaticallyincorrect but rhyming with Its Raining Men by Geri Halliwell) in M.P.Also, next week my best bud is coming down from A.I.I.M.S. and we'llhave a rockin time.posted by
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Re: g_b can't we make this sacrifice, to make our parents happy?

2006-03-11 Thread suhail khan



yes our parents brought us to this earth and we are here because of them, but we have our own lives as well even ifi marry a girl i wont be able to satisfy her sexually very much and this would be an injustice to her, and marriage is an important institution like you are responsible to your parents, you are equally responsible to your wife, so in any case if you marry its injustice to your wife and if you dont it is to your parents, i would suggest that you work hard and become financially independent and then you tell your parents that you are gay and that you cant marry a girl if possible take your parents to a psychologist who can explain them things better. thats all i can say. and now since nothing can be done about us being gay we have no option but to act discreet and prudent. well i know i havent solved your problem but that all i could docoolclump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hi there,i've always been a silent spectator of this grp. after reading ur reaction for gays marrying straight women, i've a humble comment/doubt to put forth:won't it be selfish of us(gays) if we deny getting married? cuz, the majority of the parents of gays are conservative and it's a matter of pride for them to get their sons/daughters married.and we're here on the earth only because of them. it's our parents who've given us an identity. aren't we obliged to go by their words as in case of marriage?can't we make this sacrifice, to make our parents happy? and i'm sure gays will definitely have children after marriage. that'll also make our parents happy grandparents na..?well, this is not my principle or opinion. it's just a small doubt that has kept me in conflict for quite a long time. and i just wanna know how other gays 'll respond to
 this..i understand ur point also but would u or anyone substantiate ur point of view?how'll u tackle a question as this? would u prefer saying-'yes, i'm selfish' or 'no, i'll better make my conservative parents happy...'cheers..v--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Sonub Jalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:rent you contradicting yourself? "Sex is in the mind" and "still at heart we are gay"...who are you fooling? If you have indeed attained intimacy with your wife (proving that it is possible) then why the need to be here?I dont know under what circumstances you have had to marry and I will not like to sit in judgement of your actions. But this is definitely not the advise you can give to people who are under pressure to get married to a woman. What such people (people like me) need to know is that you will then be using a woman's life to experiment. You are living in denial about what you and she needs and someday you
 will not be able to live the pretence any longer.For those of you who are married...you can spend the rest of your life "adjusting" and "rubbing your wife's cheeks" or acknowledge the clossal mistake you have made and go your separate ways. Acknowledge that you are "not a perfect husband like heteros" and a hetro is what any straight woman deserves, while you are respnsible for denying her that.And then maybe some of you married guys have been lucky in that your wife has waited long enough for you to "get physical as if it means nothing to you as would between two friends". I know of women who kicked the living daylights out of their husbands for not being good enough. Lots of rounds to hospitals to cure their impotency. So dont you dare make your plight a general rule.Get real guys. While the honourable GB list jury is still out on whether true love is possible in the gay world, I believe it is better to be alone than to live a lie.I have fought
 really hard not to marry, being the only son in a very conservative family. It has affected my parents health and been the cause of a lot of tension in my family. But I would rather live with this than a wife with whom I need to develop intimacy and "Achieving sex with one women" against my instincts.abbey fifty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I'd like to make two points:1. I share Sumeet Mehra's experiences and having done the deed, ( marrying )the best option is to try hard to adjust. And the best policy is NOT to try getting hard - just befriend your wife, get intimate in all other ways, and then very slowly, get physical as if it means nothing to you as would between two friends -like putting hand over shoulder, a kiss on the cheek and just holding hands. The important thing is to get so used to these things that you are not conscious. After a few months, you will be mentally relaxed enough for stirrings of physical feelings to emerge. Remember sex is in the
 mind. So relax and let time go. I went through this phase and though not a perfect husband like heteros, we do get along.2. We are on the list because, still, at heart we are gay in that we are attracted physically by men. Achieving sex with one women means nothing much except that u get to know her so well, that one learns to get along, if you know what I mean. It 

Re: g_b hanuman pic, surprising

2005-12-30 Thread suhail khan



dear allpeople are all busy dwelling over complaint of Luv-dude, exactly there is nothing wrong in posting picture of lord hanuman or hanuman chalisa, i have no problem, but what is surprising is posting of picture of Lord hanuman and hanuman chalisa it was something so strange and unexpected, what made that guy all of a sudden post picture of lord hanuman and hanuman chalisa, and its really strange atleast for me it is.byeSPONSORED LINKS Romance relationship   Bombay india   India gift India romance   India tour   Online romance   Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com 





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Re: g_b Plz help me

2005-12-28 Thread suhail khan



  hi  Are u a BSc or an MSc student? well if you want to do post graduation in USA or canada you need to have a four years bachelor degree or a five year study of BSc + Msc, then only you are eligible for post graduation that is MS, you must be knowing all this, i suppose. Well i dont see many students take subject GRE as it is supposed to be very tough and only highly intelligent students go for it. And there are very very few universities who ask for subject GRE, otherwise 99% universities gladly accept general GRE that is one of 1600 marks and 6 for analytical writing, GRE scores matters but not very much, it is supposed to have a weightage of around 50% rest is your academics means
 how you fared in your graduation. And in case of science students especially engg or physics related you need to score 750/800 in quanta section and minimum 450/800 in verbal section and a minimum of 4.5/6 in analytical section inorder to become eligible for most of the good universities, you will send the application to the universities along with your GRE scores and LORs and SOP and transcripts, and if the university finds you as an eligible and fit candidate they willenroll you either with financial aid or without financial aid, what i mean is to say general GRE is a simple and more appropriate way if you want to study abroad rather than subject GRE which you can only take during a limited number of times per year as against general GRE which you can take once every month obviously incase you are not satisfied with your earlier performances. for maths students general GRE is no big deal, i mean if you score 1400+/1600 and you have 75%+ in your graduation then the job is 90%
 done and nobody can stop you getting into a good university, i wont say you will get into stanford or massachussetts or california but still you can get into some very good university. According to statistics around 90% students study abroad through general GRE, of course the general GRE pattern is going to change from oct-2006 i think, and you know in allahabad they were conducting some experimental GRE tests where they were ready to pay any student 80$ who takes that experimental test.  well thats all i have to say.  bye  vijay jadhav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi, Can Anybody give me information about subject GREin the subject of Physics.   __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/  Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com 





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g_b Re: sahil's mails

2005-12-06 Thread suhail khan



hithere is a famous saying in english, i am ofcourse not much into shayri, and neither i am so talented and have so much time, but still i found one saying.and it goes as "absence makes the heart grow fonder"SO I WAS THINKING IF PERHAPS YOU COULD GET ABSENT FOR FEW DAYS AND GIVE US SOME TIME TO MISS YOU AND THUS LOVE YOU MORE.DEAR MODERATOR I WOULD BE HIGHLY OBLIGED IF YOU CAN POST THIS MESSAGE.THANKS
		 
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Re: g_b Is being gay being lonely?

2005-11-17 Thread suhail khan



well the article may definitely prove to be of some help to some. its quite good.  and it may help some who are having difficulty in accepting themselves.gaybombay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:someone mailed me this artcile. hope it is thought provoking for you  Is being gay being lonely?   Close your eyes - what was your first response to thetitle - Is being gay being lonely Yes, no or let's read and find out. Well if you think yes you're probably going to be lonely for a long time if you thought no you're probably out right now having a great time with friends or someone who sends shivers down your spine. If you are reading to find out - good for you because if you read this and it
 makes sense to you there is a good chance you are going to kill that lonely monster who raises his head every now and then.   What I'm going to say is a cliché you have probably heard a million times and you will probably want to bang my brains out but I'm saying it loud and clear - ITS ALL IN THE MIND. Not only that, it sits and sits in the mind and becomes the most vicious circle ever. Here's what happens you think "it's so ing difficult being gay . I wish I was straight." You think that over and over and you actually become a miserable self pitying person. Let me tell you no one in their right minds wants to have anything to do with someone who is drowning in self pity. So there goes your chance of finding someone. Even your old friends straight or gay won't want to hang around a pathetic you. They want the confident happy you.   Easier said than done - no way easier done than not done.   Here are some facts of life to kick you out of your I'm so
 unlucky mode - 1) Straight relationships are as difficult - it takes as much effort to nurture and preserve a healthy mature straight relationship.   2) You are on this earth for a reason, you did not choose to be gay. There has to be a good side - find it.   3) You don't need a microphone to proclaim to the world that you are gay - if you know- that's good, if you understand-that's better, if you accept that's great.   4) You don't need the whole world to accept you - some really lucky ones have accepting families BUT let me tell you its you who has to accept it, some have friends who know some of us only have gay friends who know. Some need to make gay friends who know - this is where the vicious circle comes in. You won't make friends if you wallow in self pity.   5) You can only have a healthy happy relationship if you yourself are healthy and happy.   6) Being gay is only a big lonely deal if you make it one.  
 REMEMBER DON'T GET SO OBSESSED WITH YOUR SEXUALITY THAT YOU STOP BEING A PERSON AND BECOME ONLY GAY  This article was meant to get you thinking there are bound to be some of you who disagree and some of you think it very simplistic that's the idea we want to know so do a little self searching and tell us what you thought. -- www.gaybombay.info   
		 
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Re: g_b Does brain washing turns gay into straight?

2005-11-12 Thread suhail khan
hi manas

i understand you well, the stage you are going through, i am 23 and 3-4 years 
later i will have to face the same thing that is the marriage pressure, though 
i most probably next year  would be leaving for USA as i have fair chances of 
getting scholarship to study there, and once i get independent, and to an 
extent get settled economically, i will come out to my family that i am gay.

 well things look pretty simple to me now but nobody knows what future has 
because things always do not happen the way we want them to all we can do is 
act prudently and leave rest to destiny, what you need to do is think about it 
very patiently, and yes life is not a bed of roses, but also it is not a bed of 
thorns, i think you should tell your parents that you are gay, you can first 
goto a good psychiatrist and tell him/her your problem, then you can take your 
parents to him/her so that the psychiatrist can help them to deal with the 
situation and perhaps suggest some solution. 

ofcourse manas sexual orientation cannot change permanently, because it is a 
biological thing, and beliefs and religion are mental, they are based on the 
thinking which though biological as well is well controlled by the person 
itself.

your beliefs mays waver but it cannot happen with sexual orientation.

had it been like that brainwashing could help to change sexual orientation, 
gays and lesbians wouldnt have existed because they all by now would have been 
taken to some good BRAIN WASHER by their parents, and would have been 
according to you CURED but we do see gays and lesbians around, the most 
simple thing is that till date there does not exist anyway by which you can 
change a person's sexual orientation, if it had existed it would have 
revolutionised the life of all the homosexuals, and homosexuality would have 
become history. but no its no history, rather the number of gays and lesbians 
are increasing day by day.

Also you said some of the straights indulge in gay sex in hostels and other 
similar places, its so simple manas, they are not straights, they are faking 
it, why would they tell that they sucked their friends penis because they are 
gay, they are smart people they know the consequences if they do so, so what 
they do is rationalize that is, make excuses, that we did for adventure, or 
just to see how it feels and various other obviously discreet reasons. 

i hope you understood. think over it and yes , the sooner you come out of the 
closet to your parents the better it would be both for you and your parents, be 
delibertae and act intelligently being discreet, because anyway we all have to 
face it one day.

bye

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MANAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since time immemorial I have memories of gay inclination. And at times had been 
annoyed with God regarding the way I am. But maturity imparted profound wisdom 
to my restless soul; I have learnt to appreciate many things that the Almighty 
had seemingly bestowed on me, things which many of an unfortunate soul aspire 
for. Like the wonderful set of parents he has given me. Its not like every one 
loves there parents, ‘cause I have seen how, many a times they were willing to 
walk the extra mile just for me, jeopardized their aspirations for my sake, 
make sacrifices to promote my education  career.

 



Being 26 years old, I know that I can impede marriage almost by 4 years from 
now, but I cannot shun marriage! ‘cause I am the only son of my parents, though 
I have a younger sister to my respite. Middle class background  aspirations 
makes life demanding  responsible from many sides. At times society, 
neighborhood  friends circle makes life hell, protruding questions from all 
sides regarding my marriage. I know the hypocrisy of this material life  its 
people, but how do I make my parents understand? I cannot come out to them; I 
don’t possess that kind of courage to let them down. ‘cause after knowing my 
state they would be thoroughly disappointed,  won’t be able to face them then 
in their old age. My parents are already old, they keep hitting me  telling me 
about the stats of the very many girls they have gathered!! I listen to them is 
total silence, not knowing what to do?

 



Girls had never excited them. Not that I don’t find them beautiful. Beautiful 
they are, even the butterfly with its colored wings, a baby with its innocent 
smile, the morning milkman with his sincere smile are beautiful, but I don’t 
feel like being physical with them. Even in my school  college days, turning 
the pages of Debonair never ever gave me an erection. Since last few months 
though I have deliberately tried to be straight, now a days I try to 
concentrate greater on the female genital (watching straight porn movies)  
imagine myself in place of the porn-actor agitating them. 

 



I think I would succeed in feigning sexual compatibility with the farer sex, 
though honestly speaking; the very idea of having sex with a girl has been a 
huge turndown for 

g_b gay tv soap

2005-10-09 Thread suhail khan



hi

how many of you know that here! (a channel name i suppose) is going to start a gay soap name dante's cove. the serial has real gay and bi characters, i mean unlike will of will  grace. dante's cove is a story about some haunted hotel. and its male characters are really-really hot and they are gay in real life as well. the serial will have some steamy scenes as well. the songs of the serial are also good atleast i felt so. i will suggest you all to visit the site www.dantescove.com here you can get more information about the soap, and please do see the trailor its really hot and nice, you can also download mp3 songs. one of the actors of that soap is really someone to die for, he is absolutely a complete sex bomb. you can visit the pictures from that site and see him.

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g_b EVERYONE SHOULD PARTICIPATE

2005-10-07 Thread suhail khan



yesterday i went to gaybombay information site and there i learnt that there are approximately 9000+ membersin this group but still only few write or post messages, while others dont participate, i think if any one doesnt have anything to say, they can ofcourse take part in sending replies to any of the messages, i think not more than 100 take active participation,which is a very small number compared to 9000. please everyone do write what you think, and there is nothing to worry for as everyone is like-minded here in this group.
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Re: g_b Orientation is a biological trait

2005-10-06 Thread suhail khan



hi indian
i am sorry if you felt bad reading my explanations, i am not blaming anyone, whomsoever, especially i am not blaming god, as i dont have any problem being gay, and i respect almighty's decision because being a gay according to me is not the end of life, and there is much more in life. i just assert that like your looks,height and color, were already decided ,and so is the case with your sexual orientation, and like we dont have any answers except genetics for looks,height,color and etc same is the case with sexual orientation and that you cannot ask for an answer that "why i am gay". you are gay because you were meant to be gay like you were meant to have the color,the height,the looks that you have and it could not have been anything else, as your genes decide what you will look like ,how tall you will be and so on,so does some biological process determines that you will be a gay,and no one can remarkably change it, because all these things were destined and were meant to be
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Friends,Here we go again! Blaiming God, devil and then me!! The truth is that these are conjectures... Andfinally this is not a case of either or kind ofthing... Let me say other way round.Orientation is a biological trait. It is continuouswithout a boundary... There is no black and whiteclassification... There is some scientific evidencethat it is in our genes (although the evidence is notstrong enough). Even if this is the case environmentalfactors (including womb environment) does affect themanifestation of the biological potential. By the way being gay and being faminine are not thesame things.. I am GAY without having any reasonabletrace of being feminine...One cannot CHANGE the orientation.. Surely one cancontrol to a larger extent.. I can control myself notbe aroused by males but I
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2005-10-06 Thread suhail khan



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Re: g_b Lets Vote for ARPITA AS QUAZI HAS OVERDONE HIS DIALOGS

2005-10-06 Thread suhail khan
qazi is really no good singer, he is just paying attention to his clothes and 
style and no singing. also i dont find him attractive either ,from any angle. 
and also the competition is about singing and not looks so he should be send 
packing. though if he was even 1% attractive i would have voted for him, but he 
fails in that as well as he fails in his singing.

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I am actually fed up with QUAZI and his Dialogs this guy needs to understand 
that the competition is all about good singing then comes screen presence and 
style. 

The Judges and the participants have made it clear that quazi is not unto the 
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Re: g_b why are we gay?indian

2005-10-04 Thread suhail khan



hi indianWhen certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women.this is the most obvious way of saying "why are we gay"but to be frank atleast i used to question that why it happened with me only, why only me and not the most of them. in my neighbour stays a family with four children, 2boys and 2 girls, out of these four,threechildren are very fair, but the third child who is a girl is very dark. and she often asks that why is she dark unlike her three siblings and parents, why dark complexion came to her only and not to any of her other three siblings, and yes i forgot to mention that ,their parents are also both very fair, but still out of the four children one is very dark and the rest three are very fair. so why did it happen with her wasnt it her fate to be dark.
we often see families with odds, like my friend whose mom is 5'7" and dad is 5'10" but he is only 5'6". wasnt it his fate that only that much hormones will be released that he will be no more tall than 5'6". think over it. things created by god cannot be completely satisfied by any theory. like a spider's thread is the strongest and no science can make a thread equally thin and strong.your complexion,your height, your looks,and so your sexual orientationare all pre-decided.
and those who say that upbringing affects sexual orientation, thencan anyone tell the answer for transsexuals, most transssexuals saythat since the age of as less as three they felt they were a soul in the wrong body,a female soul in a male body and in some cases a male soul in a female body, why and how does it happen that a 3year old child who doesnt know anything very assertively say that i am in the wrong body. i have seen in oprah winfrey show, a three year old boy said that he is a girl and not a boy ,and that he wants breasts and vagina and he even said that he wants his penis to fall off.

its a simple simple thing that you were brought into this world with fixed looks,height,color and so also sexual orientation. and searching for reasons for any of these will not yield any answer except that "it was god's wish", we do see in our life examples, and we do many a times say that "he sings so well,he is god gifted" "he makes beautiful drawings, its a god gift to him" dont we. 

dont we say "bhagwan ne brad pitt ko kya surat di hai, kitna sexy banaya hai use" or we say that "so and so hormones must have secreted and so he is sexy,there is nothing special in him"

ask yourself?do you use the first sentence for brad pitt or the second ,its so simple that your looks,height,color and so also sexual orientationwere predecided.

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Dear Moderator,While part of this mail are OK but there are otherparts which amount fo fiction. Moderators please becareful in filtering out some of these mythicalreplies .. I know it is diffcult at times for you. Anyway let me take this opportunity for to congratulateyou for the excellent job you are people have beendoing.Particularly the following comment in this mail iswithout any basis:"But its seen most of the times that Gay guys havebaby girls quiet often than baby Boys."ude, Let me tell u the truth here. Being a Gay doesnt mean you differ from other straight guys in any way. Only the differene lies in your thinking and in your brain. When certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women. Now if you marry a girl, you can also have a baby and it can be a boy or
 a girl. Only thing is..you will have to try hard to satisfy any girl simply because you are never satisfied by having a sex with a girl. But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have baby girls quiet often than baby Boys. And whether its a baby boy or a baby girl...there are rbight chances that they may carry similar likings or sex patterns...BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY (PHYSICALLY) NOT DIFFERENT THAN STRAIGHT GUYSTAKE THIS OUT OF YOUR MINDOR ELSE YOU MAY RUIN YOUR LIFE AND MAY START FEELING LEFT OVERDONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU IN ANY WAY.Its only in our thinking and not in our physique! WALNUT 
		 
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Re: g_b what should i do?

2005-10-03 Thread suhail khan



hi vijay
if he is a close and old friend of yours then you can very well make an analysis of your friends sexual orientation, what is your age? because after reaching an age of 21 most gays are in a position to understand especially on bed what the other guy wants. see if he hugged you or did something similar on bed it just does not make him a gay, many straightguys prefer to hug their bed partner irrespective of the sex. if he was your college friend than you might to an extent would have analysed atleast once about his choices. well still its not late ,this time when he comes to sleep with you, try to read him what he wants, and please dont hurry as it may land you in an awkward situation. and ofcourse its only you who can most potentially judge that guy,
because you only know him the best, than any of us.
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Re: g_b why are we gay?ah_chaudhary

2005-10-03 Thread suhail khan



hi ah_chaudhary

i completely understood what you say. yes ofcourse we want to change things we dont like and definitely we should give it a try. but you had asked why are we gay? so the answer comes because god made us gay. definitely i completely agree that many a times we are not satisfied with what we get and we do really thrive for improvement or change. but a change might not always be possible, somethings cant change. sexual orientation cannot change because its innate, definitely there do exist medical procedures which to an extent momentarily may deviate your sexual orientation but its only temporal and short lived. otherwisetill date its not possible to permanently change a person's sexual orientation..May be in future with advancement in biotechnology and genetics it might very well become possible that all parents will withcomplete confidenceget a straight child only, but only time can answer this question. 

had it been like that,itwas amatter of state of mind dominance over your sexual orientation,then by now the problem of homosexuality might have completely been solved and everyone in this world would have becomestraight through some psychological procedure,but it does not happen science definitely can answer most questions ,but not every single one. that is why homosexuals do exist in this world and noone till date has successfullyfound a way to change a persons sexual orientation.

i have seen in oprah winfrey show it was on "parents reaction to the homosexual child" except one father, every single parent said that they love their child irrespective of the sexual orientationwhich they do have or might have in future. its a question of acceptance and we gays or bisexuals feel odd because we are a minority,and especially in india where homosexuals are seen as some curse,india may also in sometime get out of this and accept homosexuals, in the same way it took time to abolish sati-pratha which all intelligent pundits at that time considered as the only path left for a widow, but things have changed and they will again change but what we have to do is wait.
but there is ofcourse much more in life than sex.your sexual orientation can never stop you from reaching where you want. it cannot hinder or thwart your success ,its definitely one of the most important aspect of one's life but not the only prominence.
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hi suhail
 don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made us like that 
so we are gay. god made us but we don't always like how he made us we don't like all lot of things about usand we try to change that so why cant live with those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we choose to gay and i has nothing with god making us this way.suhail khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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its a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.
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g_b i agree with jimmy khan

2005-09-28 Thread suhail khan
hi friends
 
i agree with jimmy khan, he just made us aware of the other side of the coin, 
yes what he wrote, might have been the case with some of them, and saying that 
it just does not happen is a stupid thing to do. like most of the straights 
still very much think that gays are mentally deranged people, though only we 
know what is right, many of them still treat us gays like a curse, and then how 
do we answer them, we know they cant be helped but atleast we can be rational, 
and yes what he wrote has been proved true by medical sciences that yes some 
percentage of people do suffer from psychological affects of masturbation, in 
the same way that 2-4 out of every 100 born are gay.
 
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g_b i agree with the moderator

2005-09-22 Thread suhail khan



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Re: g_b The King of Gags- Sahil!! ;-)

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g_b sunday machos were gay

2005-05-15 Thread suhail khan
are all this saturday mates, sunday machos really gay they look super hot .
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Re: g_b a question

2005-04-21 Thread suhail khan


you can search it on google.well it has no harmful
effects even if you swallow it,and as far as your own
cum is concerned you can always swallow it without a
second thought.you should be concerned upon fucking
that you always put a condom especially if you have an
uncut penis.more you can search on google.
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