Re: g_b Abrupt end to GB party at Velocity on 2nd Feb-Message for vikram

2006-02-12 Thread abc def



Rightly said 'R'such silly people should not be answered...!  this 'walnut' really seems a crazy nut!  in the past even he had written bad words to the Moderator...i remember clearly...  such people should not be given any clarification.i and most of the guys here know how much Vikram , Ketan,Dee ,sopan and all others whose names i might have skipped do for GB events and GB community...so pls don't take walnut's or any such people's words seriously and keep up yourgood work...rgds,  cool dudewalnutgoat69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Vikram,First of all let me tell you that I don't "Yell" at anyone. I verycasually asked this question like any other member would ask to hisclose
 friend.It was not any kind of Interrogation either (as you felt so). So plz. mind your language, especially when you correspond in a publicforum.Secondly, the sudden change in the party day really came up as asurprise so I thought of putting this question across.And what makes you say that 'Guys Like Me take GB parties for granted'Plz. note that it's only when more and more people come to GB parties,the party becomes more n more enjoyable and fun filled experience.What's there to be taken for granted here :-)) I really don'tunderstand your psychology.When any such GB parties are arranged, do you arrange them forcharity? Or rather let me ask you whether you throw such parties tothe entire community out of your own pocket? Certainly not. People (Including you) come to enjoy during such event, some even makemoney from such parties (either they sell themselves or they selltickets)...so
 I really don' understand...what made you say that 'Itake such parties for granted'?Also when anyone comes to attend these parties, he or she pays for it,as nothing comes for free in this world.So lets not argue on what I feel and what I don't...take thingslightly dude...And if you are really geared up for fighting then go to KargilourIndian Army needs people like you :-))Many of us too actively participate in most of the GB events. And Ifeel we have every right to know about the factor that caused thechange to our normal routine of having GB parties...Its as simple asthat...And rather than creating such a silly dispute, you should havecourteously informed everyone about the reason for changing the dayfor this event.Stop taking things personally here.With LuvWalnut--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "Vikram" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ar Moderator For what reasons
 it was organised during week night? Usually its on weekends? Didnt you guys tghink of a better weekend? Or it was just at a kick of a thought this party was organized on Thursday night?Walnut--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, walnut walnutgoat69@ wrote:First, please don't yell at the moderator of this group since he has nothing to do with the scheduling of parties.Second, we would have been only too happy to have the party on a weekend, but we do not always have the luxury of getting weekend dates. Many places don't agree to give their venues on weekends, or they would only do so at a really increased rate.That's the problem we're now facing at Velocity which has a new management. These guys have told us they have no problems with GB parties, but they are clear that they want to make more money. So for weekend parties it was going to be a sharply increased rate. We didn't want to accept this, or at least not now, but we didn't want to wait
 too long to have a party either, so we compromised on a Thursday at the old rate.For the record, we have frequently held parties on weekdays and that;s how it happens in most places - Delhi's Pegs  Pints night is on Tuesdays. Weekend parties is a recent luxury for us and as our current problems in finding places shows, its not one we can count on having.I think the real problem is that guys like you seem to be taking the GB parties for granted, without realising the problems we still face organising them. Please be assured that we don't do things "at a kick of a thought" but do our best to come up with parties that balance the best interests of everyone, and that is never going to be easy,Vikram  SPONSORED LINKS Love and romance   Romance relationship   Bombay
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Re: g_b Abrupt end to GB party at Velocity on 2nd Feb-Message for vikram

2006-02-12 Thread walnut



Wow!  Thanks Mr. Mahatma Gandhi (Gay Man).  Plz. do so.  Gay Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I personally believe that the response to this person [walnutgoat], has to be a simple silence.Rwalnutgoat69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Vikram,First of all let me tell you that I don't "Yell" at anyone. I verycasually asked this question like any other member would ask to hisclose friend.It was not any kind of Interrogation either (as you felt so). So plz. mind your language, especially when you correspond in a publicforum.Secondly, the sudden change in the party day really
 came up as asurprise so I thought of putting this question across.And what makes you say that 'Guys Like Me take GB parties for granted'Plz. note that it's only when more and more people come to GB parties,the party becomes more n more enjoyable and fun filled   experience.What's there to be taken for granted here :-)) I really don'tunderstand your psychology.When any such GB parties are arranged, do you arrange them forcharity? Or rather let me ask you whether you throw such parties tothe entire community out of your own pocket? Certainly not. People (Including you) come to enjoy during such event, some even makemoney from such parties (either they sell themselves or they selltickets)...so I really don' understand...what made you say that 'Itake such parties for granted'?Also when anyone comes to attend these parties, he or she pays for it,as nothing comes for free in this world.So
 lets not argue on what I feel and what I don't...take thingslightly dude...And if you are really geared up for fighting then go to KargilourIndian Army needs people like you :-))Many of us too actively participate in most of the GB events. And Ifeel we have   every right to know about the factor that caused thechange to our normal routine of having GB parties...Its as simple asthat...And rather than creating such a silly dispute, you should havecourteously informed everyone about the reason for changing the dayfor this event.Stop taking things personally here.With LuvWalnut--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "Vikram" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ar  Moderator For what reasons it was organised during week night?  Usually its on weekends? Didnt you guys tghink of a better weekend? Or  it was just at a kick of a thought this party was organized on Thursday  night?Walnut--- In
 gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, walnut walnutgoat69@ wrote:First, please don't yell at the moderator of this group since he has nothing to do with the scheduling of parties.Second,  we would have been only too happy to have the party on a weekend, but  we do not always have the luxury of getting weekend dates. Many places  don't agree to give their venues on weekends, or they would only do so  at a really increased rate.That's  the problem we're now facing at Velocity which has a new management.  These guys have told us they have no problems with GB parties, but they  are clear that they want to make more money. So for weekend parties it  was going to be a sharply increased rate. We didn't want to accept  this, or at least not now, but we didn't want to wait too long to have  a party either, so we compromised on a Thursday at the old rate.For  the record, we have frequently held parties on weekdays and that;s how  it happens in most places -
 Delhi's Pegs  Pints night is on  Tuesdays. Weekend parties is a recent luxury for us and as our current  problems in finding places shows, its not one we can count on having.I  think the real problem is that guys like you seem to be taking the GB  parties for granted, without realising the problems we still face  organising them. Please be assured that we don't do things "at a kick  of a thought" but do our best to come up with parties that balance the  best interests of everyone, and that is never going to be easy,Vikram Yahoo! Mail   Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.  
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Re: g_b Abrupt end to GB party at Velocity on 2nd Feb-Message for vikram

2006-02-11 Thread Gay Man



I personally believe that the response to this person [walnutgoat], has to be a simple silence.Rwalnutgoat69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Vikram,First of all let me tell you that I don't "Yell" at anyone. I verycasually asked this question like any other member would ask to hisclose friend.It was not any kind of Interrogation either (as you felt so). So plz. mind your language, especially when you correspond in a publicforum.Secondly, the sudden change in the party day really came up as asurprise so I thought of putting this question across.And what makes you say that 'Guys Like Me take GB parties for granted'Plz. note that it's only when more and more people come to GB parties,the party becomes more n more enjoyable and fun filled
 experience.What's there to be taken for granted here :-)) I really don'tunderstand your psychology.When any such GB parties are arranged, do you arrange them forcharity? Or rather let me ask you whether you throw such parties tothe entire community out of your own pocket? Certainly not. People (Including you) come to enjoy during such event, some even makemoney from such parties (either they sell themselves or they selltickets)...so I really don' understand...what made you say that 'Itake such parties for granted'?Also when anyone comes to attend these parties, he or she pays for it,as nothing comes for free in this world.So lets not argue on what I feel and what I don't...take thingslightly dude...And if you are really geared up for fighting then go to KargilourIndian Army needs people like you :-))Many of us too actively participate in most of the GB events. And Ifeel we have
 every right to know about the factor that caused thechange to our normal routine of having GB parties...Its as simple asthat...And rather than creating such a silly dispute, you should havecourteously informed everyone about the reason for changing the dayfor this event.Stop taking things personally here.With LuvWalnut--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, "Vikram" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ar Moderator For what reasons it was organised during week night? Usually its on weekends? Didnt you guys tghink of a better weekend? Or it was just at a kick of a thought this party was organized on Thursday night?Walnut--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, walnut walnutgoat69@ wrote:First, please don't yell at the moderator of this group since he has nothing to do with the scheduling of parties.Second, we would have been only too happy to have the party on a weekend, but we do not always have the
 luxury of getting weekend dates. Many places don't agree to give their venues on weekends, or they would only do so at a really increased rate.That's the problem we're now facing at Velocity which has a new management. These guys have told us they have no problems with GB parties, but they are clear that they want to make more money. So for weekend parties it was going to be a sharply increased rate. We didn't want to accept this, or at least not now, but we didn't want to wait too long to have a party either, so we compromised on a Thursday at the old rate.For the record, we have frequently held parties on weekdays and that;s how it happens in most places - Delhi's Pegs  Pints night is on Tuesdays. Weekend parties is a recent luxury for us and as our current problems in finding places shows, its not one we can count on having.I think the real problem is that guys like you seem to be taking the GB parties for granted, without realising the problems we
 still face organising them. Please be assured that we don't do things "at a kick of a thought" but do our best to come up with parties that balance the best interests of everyone, and that is never going to be easy,Vikram
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Re: g_b Abrupt end to GB party at Velocity on 2nd Feb-Message for vikram

2006-02-11 Thread Vikram
--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, walnutgoat69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Vikram,
 
 First of all let me tell you that I don't Yell at anyone. I very
 casually asked this question like any other member would ask to his
 close friend.
 
 It was not any kind of Interrogation either (as you felt so). 
 
 So plz. mind your language, especially when you correspond in a 
public
 forum.

As with most list disputes this one seems to centre on a matter of 
tone. I certainly did find your tone, as I have found your tone in 
past mails as rather abrasive and demanding. Perhaps I'm wrong or 
perhaps that's just the way you normally communicate - apologies if I 
read too much into it. 

 And what makes you say that 'Guys Like Me take GB parties for 
granted'
 

I do think this does happen particularly on the part of people who 
did not experience the party scene before GB started organising its 
parties or haven't lived outside Bombay or Delhi and seen what its 
like without an organisation like GB to organise events. 

Please note I don't make any claim that GB parties are that 
wonderful. I've personally long got bored with them, but I still help 
organise them for the benefit of the community (more precisely, to 
support Dee who does all the real organising). The GB parties are 
organised by a small bunch of guys who have other commitments on 
their time, so they are the best we can organise in the time we have 
and the spaces that become available for us. 

We don't expect lavish gratitude for this, but we would like people 
to recognise that these aren't quite the same as professionally 
organised parties. These are community parties, organised by and for 
members of the community, and some appreciation of this would be 
nice. We welcome suggestions and constructive criticism, but not 
demands and your mails do have a tendency to come out out sounding 
like that. 

 When any such GB parties are arranged, do you arrange them for
 charity? Or rather let me ask you whether you throw  such parties to
 the entire community out of your own pocket? Certainly not. 

I don't quite know what you're asking here, but I can say that none 
of the GB organisers benefits personally from the parties. We don't 
even get in free, since we all pay the full price. The parties are 
charged at the rate the club charges us or sometimes there is a small 
margin added on which goes to fund the film festivals and other GB 
events, plus acts as a buffer for when parties fall short of minimum 
numbers - our deal with clubs is that we guarantee them a minimum 
number of people and compensate them if this falls short, so believe 
me we are very interested in plenty of people coming! 

 Also when anyone comes to attend these parties, he or she pays for 
it,
 as nothing comes for free in this world.

Nothing comes free, but things can come more expensive. Hop across to 
Delhi and see the sort of price gouging that happens for commercially 
organised farmhouse parties over there. 

 Many of us too actively participate in most of the GB events. And I
 feel we have every right to know about the factor that caused the
 change to our normal routine of having GB parties...Its as simple as
 that...
 
 And rather than creating such a silly dispute, you should have
 courteously informed everyone about the reason for changing the day
 for this event.

As we would have done if we had known in advance that the party would 
be shut down. But if you've been reading the papers you would have 
seen that the Velocity shut down was part of a city wide crack down 
on pubs and that none of them knew in advance. So it would have been 
a little difficult to inform people in advance. We did give an 
explanation the day after. 

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Re: g_b Abrupt end to GB party at Velocity on 2nd Feb-Message for vikram

2006-02-10 Thread walnutgoat69
Vikram,

First of all let me tell you that I don't Yell at anyone. I very
casually asked this question like any other member would ask to his
close friend.

It was not any kind of Interrogation either (as you felt so). 

So plz. mind your language, especially when you correspond in a public
forum.

Secondly, the sudden change in the party day really came up as a
surprise so I thought of putting this question across.

And what makes you say that 'Guys Like Me take GB parties for granted'

Plz. note that it's only when more and more people come to GB parties,
the party becomes more n more enjoyable and fun filled experience.

What's there to be taken for granted here :-)) I really don't
understand your psychology.

When any such GB parties are arranged, do you arrange them for
charity? Or rather let me ask you whether you throw  such parties to
the entire community out of your own pocket? Certainly not. 

People (Including you) come to enjoy during such event, some even make
money from such parties (either they sell themselves or they sell
tickets)...so I really don' understand...what made you say that 'I
take such parties for granted'?

Also when anyone comes to attend these parties, he or she pays for it,
as nothing comes for free in this world.

So lets not argue on what I feel and what I don't...take things
lightly dude...
And if you are really geared up for fighting then go to Kargilour
Indian Army needs people like you :-))

Many of us too actively participate in most of the GB events. And I
feel we have every right to know about the factor that caused the
change to our normal routine of having GB parties...Its as simple as
that...

And rather than creating such a silly dispute, you should have
courteously informed everyone about the reason for changing the day
for this event.

Stop taking things personally here.

With Luv
Walnut




--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ar Moderator For what reasons it was organised during week night? Usually 
its on weekends? Didnt you guys tghink of a better weekend? Or it was just at a 
kick of a thought this party was organized on Thursday night?

Walnut
--- In gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, walnut walnutgoat69@ wrote:

First, please don't yell at the moderator of this group since he has nothing to 
do with the scheduling of parties.

Second, we would have been only too happy to have the party on a weekend, but 
we do not always have the luxury of getting weekend dates. Many places don't 
agree to give their venues on weekends, or they would only do so at a really 
increased rate.

That's the problem we're now facing at Velocity which has a new management. 
These guys have told us they have no problems with GB parties, but they are 
clear that they want to make more money. So for weekend parties it was going to 
be a sharply increased rate. We didn't want to accept this, or at least not 
now, but we didn't want to wait too long to have a party either, so we 
compromised on a Thursday at the old rate.

For the record, we have frequently held parties on weekdays and that;s how it 
happens in most places - Delhi's Pegs  Pints night is on Tuesdays. Weekend 
parties is a recent luxury for us and as our current problems in finding places 
shows, its not one we can count on having.

I think the real problem is that guys like you seem to be taking the GB parties 
for granted, without realising the problems we still face organising them. 
Please be assured that we don't do things at a kick of a thought but do our 
best to come up with parties that balance the best interests of everyone, and 
that is never going to be easy,

Vikram





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