Re: g_b why are we gay?prasanth

2005-10-13 Thread Tes Mar



I was planning on replying to this thread.. but was away. ButI dobelieve suhail khan has summed it up much better than I could have.
Thanks Suhail.
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ok you mean to say that its upbringing that decides whether you will be gay or straight. now i want to ask, is this the upbringing, that has lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world. atleast i dont think so. And please do your homework before writing. it has been proven that it has almost nothing to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances, visit some genuine web sites and search if it was upbringing that lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world,infact it has been proven by pschologists that irrespective of the upbringing you give to your child, if he is destined to be a gay he will be a gay, and this statement i have written is medically proven.if you want you can visit oprah winfrey's site, and can get information on effect of upbringing on a child's sexual orientation. i mean its surprising to even think that upbringing lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world.so according to prasanth parents of all
 homosexuals were over protective and shielded them from the big bad world, surprising!!!

and yes friends also read this line by prasanth: "Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man." i really didnt know till date that if i desire to be macho i will become straight.he further writes "If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to" again great, so according to him its all fault of homosexuals ,that till date they have not made up their minds that they will behave straight, according to him we are all so happy and feel blessed and highly gifted being gay, that we just dont want to become straight,irrespective of what society thinks of us. according to him we get some pleasure hiding our sexuality from the world and feel pleasure when our class-mates make fun of homosexuals or the society laughs at homosexuals, and so we dont want to change.
read this line of his message: "It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions." sorry but neither were my parents over protective, nor one day i sat and thought for hours and finally decided that i will be attracted to boys. it may be the case with some, but definitely not with me.
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I don't think being gay is because GOD wanted us to be like this or because we are born gay. It is more to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances. Psychological factors also affect a person to become a gay or straight. If your parents are over protective and shield you from the big bad world , there is every chance that you develop female tendencies of being soft and timid. Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man.I think it is all in the mind. If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to. It is all about being confortable with one's sexuality. If I choose to like men than women, it is my choice and I making this choice not because I was born that way or GOD made me. It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions.





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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-09 Thread Lezvin Dcosta



see people likeu will not really understand the intensity of this coz u really havent felt that indian could be a better place if liberal im not saying that its the majority hindu population that will not allow it to happen but the way people think ..john has point here and since i know him i can say that what the western world thinks of india is totally different to what we want to make it...
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Re: g_b Why are we gay?

2005-10-07 Thread jay
It's been a fantastic week for we nosey foreigners reading the 
various posts about gay identity from the emerging Indian gay scene. 
It is terribly heartening to see the sheer 'in your face' courage of 
many of the contributors here, as they stand up for themselves in a 
culture solidly rooted in patriacy and chauvanism.
My favourite windmill at which I tilt often, viciously and with (I 
think) much justification, is that of organised religious bigotry. 
But I have been so far disappointed with the lack of discussion 
about the Hindu perspective on gays.
From the little contributed so far it seems that the Hindu 
scriptures are rather ambivalent about the whole of poofter-anity. 

We in western liberal societies fought these idealogical battles in 
the 70's. In our own Australian parliament as late as the 90's, 
right wing fundamentalist christian senators were still standing up 
and declaring that the cure for homosexuality was the seduction of 
the culprit by a well meaning, but promiscuous woman who 
would 'cure' the gay of his affliction. This, from a well known 
christian preacher and politician, just goes to prove to what 
devious lengths religious zealots will go, in order to justify their 
own bigotry.
My own boyfriend is muslim. The emerging gay-muslim organisations, 
courageously face not only condemnation from their society and 
religion, but sheer physical violence in order to 'decontaminate' 
them from the liberalisation of the whole notion of individual 
sexuality.
So it is with interest that we watch you Indian gays deal with the 
same issues on your own terms, inside your own culture.

And lastly, just remember: If your God has the same prejudices as 
you, it's very likely he was made in your own image.

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Re: g_b why are we gay?john haddock

2005-10-05 Thread Kennedy
I think suhail, that you missed the satirical,ironic, sarcastic 
sense of humor that John was writng his diatrab.  Go back and read 
it from that view and you will not only laugh out loud but the real 
truth becomes obvious. 






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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-05 Thread smart stud
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Re: g_b why are we gay?ah_chaudhary

2005-10-04 Thread shashank mishra
it was great thought but what if you have started
hating what you are this is the problem that i am
facing i want to be normal LIKE MY OTHER BUDDY BUT
CANT EVERY DAY I AM ACTING TO BEHAVE LIKE A NOR MALL
GUY AND DO IT WELL BUT BOY ITS TOUGH DONT KNOW WHAT
WILL HAPN WHN I WILL HAVE TO ACT WITH MY BTR HALF BUT
I HAVE TO THER IS NO OTHER OPTION U KNOW SMTHING THIS
PARTICULAR WORD GAY MAKZ ME DOWN AND MY PERSONALTY
IS RUINED I AM COPING TO REMOVE IT TRING TO TALK TO MY
SELF AND EXPOSE MOR TO NORMALL THING LETZ SEE WHER
EILL I LAND 




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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-04 Thread dbf
i believe we are born gay
i think sexuality is not a choice
i was gay since very young, looked at some men when i
was a kid and got an erection, but at that small age,
i did not know that was an erection, just realised
when i grew older
anyone with similar thoughts?






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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-04 Thread walnut



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Re: g_b why are we gay? I am not comfortable being gay/bi

2005-10-04 Thread walnut



Yes its a fact. I have personally spoken to our family Doctor and got this information. 
OK now, so if you want to change yourself, then first and formost, you need to change your choice and habits. You need to leave this group (well I dont want u to leave this group, but if u want to become a straight guy, or u were a straight guy some time back then) and take least interest in gay topics. You should avoid each and every instance when u feel u r getting inclined towards gayhood. You have to take yourself to the stage just before when u first discovered that u r either a gay or a bisexual. Its hard...difficult but its possible. try to have sex always with Female characters, dont let gay or bisexuals hinder around u, dont let men touch u in any way, if u feel like shagging then always think of a woman and not a manslowly and steadily u will achive what u desire.

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 if its in our mind that mean we can change it, and if we can change it then how 
because i am not comfortable being gay/bi i dont kown about you but i do want to change
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dude,

Let me tell u the truth here. Being a Gay doesnt mean you differ from otherstraight guys in any way. Only the differene lies in your thinking and in your brain. When certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women. Now if you marry a girl, you can also have a baby and it can be a boy or a girl. Only thing is..you will have to try hard to satisfy any girl simply because you are never satisfied by having a sex with a girl. But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have baby girls quiet often than baby Boys.
And whether its a baby boy or a baby girl...there are rbight chances that they may carry similar likings or sex patterns...BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY (PHYSICALLY) NOT DIFFERENT THAN STRAIGHT GUYSTAKE THIS OUT OF YOUR MINDOR ELSE YOU MAY RUIN YOUR LIFE AND MAY START FEELING LEFT OVERDONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU IN ANY WAY.Its only in our thinking and not in our physique! 

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Re: g_b why are we gay?indian

2005-10-04 Thread suhail khan



hi indianWhen certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women.this is the most obvious way of saying "why are we gay"but to be frank atleast i used to question that why it happened with me only, why only me and not the most of them. in my neighbour stays a family with four children, 2boys and 2 girls, out of these four,threechildren are very fair, but the third child who is a girl is very dark. and she often asks that why is she dark unlike her three siblings and parents, why dark complexion came to her only and not to any of her other three siblings, and yes i forgot to mention that ,their parents are also both very fair, but still out of the four children one is very dark and the rest three are very fair. so why did it happen with her wasnt it her fate to be dark.
we often see families with odds, like my friend whose mom is 5'7" and dad is 5'10" but he is only 5'6". wasnt it his fate that only that much hormones will be released that he will be no more tall than 5'6". think over it. things created by god cannot be completely satisfied by any theory. like a spider's thread is the strongest and no science can make a thread equally thin and strong.your complexion,your height, your looks,and so your sexual orientationare all pre-decided.
and those who say that upbringing affects sexual orientation, thencan anyone tell the answer for transsexuals, most transssexuals saythat since the age of as less as three they felt they were a soul in the wrong body,a female soul in a male body and in some cases a male soul in a female body, why and how does it happen that a 3year old child who doesnt know anything very assertively say that i am in the wrong body. i have seen in oprah winfrey show, a three year old boy said that he is a girl and not a boy ,and that he wants breasts and vagina and he even said that he wants his penis to fall off.

its a simple simple thing that you were brought into this world with fixed looks,height,color and so also sexual orientation. and searching for reasons for any of these will not yield any answer except that "it was god's wish", we do see in our life examples, and we do many a times say that "he sings so well,he is god gifted" "he makes beautiful drawings, its a god gift to him" dont we. 

dont we say "bhagwan ne brad pitt ko kya surat di hai, kitna sexy banaya hai use" or we say that "so and so hormones must have secreted and so he is sexy,there is nothing special in him"

ask yourself?do you use the first sentence for brad pitt or the second ,its so simple that your looks,height,color and so also sexual orientationwere predecided.

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-04 Thread walnut



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It's going to be a fascinating couple of days ahead on gay bombay as the usual, the unusual and the downright crazy try to answer in their own terms the potent question "Why am I gay"?Walnut has led off with a marvellous observation that gays who marry very often have girl babies - (a new paediatric breakthrough discovery; ergo - straights most often have boy babies! Just who is creating all those girl babies then? There must be a HUGE number of married gays in the world, over half of all marriages in fact! - and of course Lesbians mostly have boy babies too.. the nonsense just goes on and on.)Now the religious have mounted their usual hullaballo, tangling themselves in knots trying to appease their religious beliefs and explain sexuallity. It seems god will agree to any number of bloodthirsty jihads, holy wars, crusades, 'liberations', etc etc, but a man who fucks
 another just gets on his goat!The notion of deviant sexuality was designed by religion to harness the powerful notion of sexual human _expression_ for its own ends. 'God' was invented by these self same people (in my opinion) to control the social 'tribe'. In this way it has created 'others' and 'ourselves'. Unbelievers and believers; foreigners and natives; leaders and servants; gays and straights. Apparently we chose to be gay - in Mr Hassan's opinion. None of us knew that we chose. None of us are aware of the day or hour it happened. None of us can remember selecting the choice or in our childhood decrying the option and knowingly making a lustful decision. It just happened. We woke up one morning in our teens and the dreadful decision had been made! Meanwhile the straight children the world over had made the 'right' decision and god will bless them will cripplingly large familes they can't feed, poverty, spousal abuse, infidelity, working in stultifying jobs
 for menial wages to feed the mouths they have brought so justly into the world. That is the sign of a human making the right sexual decision! Duh!So the religious are determined to make us believe we are errent wicked sinners by inventing more of their usual fantastical explainations for it.Chaudry's original question remains unansweredwhy are we gay?I have sex with men. The majority of human sexual contact on the planet has a man involved. The majority of humans have sex with men. I am no different than anyone else. I am expressing that great divine thing which has challenged the minds of the dumb and devious for millenia - I am being ME.I am gay because I am ME.Johnammad hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hi suhail don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made us like that so we are gay. god made us but we
 don't always like how he made us we don't like all lot of things about us and we try to change that so why cant live with those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we choose to gay and i has nothing with god making us this way.Chaudry's original question remains unansweredwhy are we gay?suhail khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hiits a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.so you are created by god finally and you should be at ease with it and respect his decision.ah_chaudry
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2005-10-04 Thread Just me



I completely disagree with Prasanth's view that we chose to like men over women and if we decide then we can start liking men. Prasant can you make similar statement for heterosexuals? I wonder.

For me personally, I always had attraction for men and I did not grow up in a over powering parents' house. My parents were loving, caring and always encouraged to take risks and be brave in life. So I do not buy his point on parenting. I hope there is healthy discussion on nature vs. nurture on this forum based on personal experiences. I totally agree and believe why we are gay is because of genetics just in the same way whu mysister is straight- because of genetics.

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I don't think being gay is because GOD wanted us to be like this or because we are born gay. It is more to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances. Psychological factors also affect a person to become a gay or straight. If your parents are over protective and shield you from the big bad world , there is every chance that you develop female tendencies of being soft and timid. Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man.I think it is all in the mind. If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to. It is all about being confortable with one's sexuality. If I choose to like men than women, it is my choice and I making this choice not because I was born that way or GOD made me. It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions.





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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread Indian
Dear Moderator,

While part of this mail are OK but there are other
parts which amount fo fiction. Moderators please be
careful in filtering out some of these mythical
replies .. I know it is diffcult at times for you. Any
way let me take this opportunity for to congratulate
you for the excellent job you are people have been
doing.

Particularly the following comment in this mail is
without any basis:

But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have
baby girls quiet often than baby Boys.
ude, 

Let me tell u the truth here. Being a Gay doesnt mean you differ from other 
straight guys in any way. Only the differene lies in your thinking and in your 
brain. When certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get 
attracted more towards men than women. Now if you marry a girl, you can also 
have a baby and it can be a boy or a girl. Only thing is..you will have to try 
hard to satisfy any girl simply because you are never satisfied by having a sex 
with a girl. But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have baby girls quiet 
often than baby Boys. And whether its a baby boy or a baby girl...there are 
rbight chances that they may carry similar likings or sex patterns...BUT WE ARE 
DEFINITELY 
(PHYSICALLY) NOT DIFFERENT THAN STRAIGHT GUYSTAKE THIS OUT OF YOUR 
MINDOR ELSE YOU MAY RUIN YOUR LIFE AND MAY START FEELING LEFT OVERDONT 
LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU IN ANY WAY.Its only in our thinking and not in our 
physique! 

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread Prasad S



Is it not like asking "Why are we men?". My view is that categorizing people on the basis on his preference to have sex with a man or a woman is incorrect. However changing this concept internationally is not possible. If everyone were to just accept that fact that we enjoy having sex with the person with whom the pleasure is maximum (physical or mental) it would have been an ideal world. Whether we have sex with a man or a woman would not have mattered.

Again we donot live in an ideal world and the sex is still a taboo topic forced upon us by foreign rulers and the Indian Moral Police. So the reason why we are gay is now being justified to our genes (in some cases just like obesity) or nature (why some are left handed).

Till we keep justifying ourselves and are not free of the prejudices.. we are bound to ask ourselves such questions

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread Zeus Titan



Now this may be at a tangent or relevant --decide for ur own self .

There is a temple in Tamil Nadu having some scripts centuries old.
One who goes there for fortune telling tells his xxx info and frm the scripts the fortune(past and future) is told.
Now these r things written in times when u , me, our uncles, granddads , or their grand dads were not there .
Written by priests/astrologers as per what they claimed revelation to them by god(or their knowledge of astrology which they were humble enuff to say as a gift frm god?)

The thing is "I Choose" is just nothing but Aham -- lots of things r not chosen (though we may believe so) --right from whose womb v r born in to where we will meet Dear ol Yamaraj (except suicide?).

So lets be happy in what v r , njoy what life gives 2 us , grieve not for what never was ours .Kyun...Kahan Shayad..chod na ---ayesh kar yaar !

Luv

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hi suhail
 don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made us like that 
so we are gay. god made us but we don't always like how he made us we don't like all lot of things about usand we try to change that so why cant live with those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we choose to gay and i has nothing with god making us this way.suhail khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi
its a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.
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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread prasanth kumar






Hi

I don't think being gay is because GOD wanted us to be like this or because we are born gay. It is more to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances. Psychological factors also affect a person to become a gay or straight. If your parents are over protective and shield you from the big bad world , there is every chance that you develop female tendencies of being soft and timid. Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man.I think it is all in the mind. If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to. It is all about being confortable with one's sexuality. If I choose to like men than women, it is my choice and I making this choice not because I was born that way or GOD made me. It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions.





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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread john haddock
It's going to be a fascinating couple of days ahead on gay bombay as the usual, 
the unusual and the downright crazy try to answer in their own terms the potent 
question Why am I gay?

Walnut has led off with a marvellous observation that gays who marry very often 
have girl babies - (a new paediatric breakthrough discovery; ergo - straights 
most often have boy babies! Just who is creating all those girl babies then? 
There must be a HUGE number of married gays in the world, over half of all 
marriages in fact! - and of course Lesbians mostly have boy babies too.. the 
nonsense just goes on and on.)

Now the religious have mounted their usual hullaballo, tangling themselves in 
knots trying to appease their religious beliefs and explain sexuallity. It 
seems god will agree to any number of bloodthirsty jihads, holy wars, crusades, 
'liberations', etc etc, but a man who fucks another just gets on his goat!

The notion of deviant sexuality was designed by religion to harness the 
powerful notion of sexual human expression for its own ends. 'God' was invented 
by these self same people (in my opinion) to control the social 'tribe'. In 
this way it has created 'others' and 'ourselves'. Unbelievers and believers; 
foreigners and natives; leaders and servants; gays and straights. Apparently we 
chose to be gay - in Mr Hassan's opinion. None of us knew that we chose. None 
of us are aware of the day or hour it happened. None of us can remember 
selecting the choice or in our childhood decrying the option and knowingly 
making a lustful decision. 

It just happened. We woke up one morning in our teens and the dreadful decision 
had been made!  Meanwhile the straight children the world over had made the 
'right' decision and god will bless them will cripplingly large familes they 
can't feed, poverty, spousal abuse, infidelity, working in stultifying jobs for 
menial wages to feed the mouths they have brought so justly into the world. 
That is the sign of a human making the right sexual decision! Duh!
 
So the religious are determined to make us believe we are errent wicked sinners 
by inventing more of their usual fantastical explainations for it.
Chaudry's original question remains unansweredwhy are we gay?
 
I have sex with men. The majority of human sexual contact on the planet has a 
man involved. The majority of humans have sex with men. I am no different than 
anyone else. I am expressing that great divine thing which has challenged the 
minds of the dumb and devious for millenia - I am being ME.
I am gay because I am ME.
 
John
 
 


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 don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made 
us like that 
so we are gay. god  made us but we don't always like how he made us we don't 
like all lot of things about us and we try to change that so why cant live with 
those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying 
to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we 
choose to gay and i has nothing with god  making us this way.
Chaudry's original question remains unansweredwhy are we gay?

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hi
its a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing 
though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just 
science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i 
am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all 
that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.
so you are created by god finally and you should be at ease with it and respect 
his decision.

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   can anyone answer my question
 WHY WE ARE GAY?

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2005-10-03 Thread ammad hassan



hi walnut
 if its in our mind that mean we can change it, and if we can change it then how 
because i am not comfortable being gay/bi i dont kown about you but i do want to change
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Let me tell u the truth here. Being a Gay doesnt mean you differ from otherstraight guys in any way. Only the differene lies in your thinking and in your brain. When certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women. Now if you marry a girl, you can also have a baby and it can be a boy or a girl. Only thing is..you will have to try hard to satisfy any girl simply because you are never satisfied by having a sex with a girl. But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have baby girls quiet often than baby Boys.
And whether its a baby boy or a baby girl...there are rbight chances that they may carry similar likings or sex patterns...BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY (PHYSICALLY) NOT DIFFERENT THAN STRAIGHT GUYSTAKE THIS OUT OF YOUR MINDOR ELSE YOU MAY RUIN YOUR LIFE AND MAY START FEELING LEFT OVERDONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU IN ANY WAY.Its only in our thinking and not in our physique! 

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread smart stud
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Re: g_b why are we gay?ah_chaudhary

2005-10-03 Thread suhail khan



hi ah_chaudhary

i completely understood what you say. yes ofcourse we want to change things we dont like and definitely we should give it a try. but you had asked why are we gay? so the answer comes because god made us gay. definitely i completely agree that many a times we are not satisfied with what we get and we do really thrive for improvement or change. but a change might not always be possible, somethings cant change. sexual orientation cannot change because its innate, definitely there do exist medical procedures which to an extent momentarily may deviate your sexual orientation but its only temporal and short lived. otherwisetill date its not possible to permanently change a person's sexual orientation..May be in future with advancement in biotechnology and genetics it might very well become possible that all parents will withcomplete confidenceget a straight child only, but only time can answer this question. 

had it been like that,itwas amatter of state of mind dominance over your sexual orientation,then by now the problem of homosexuality might have completely been solved and everyone in this world would have becomestraight through some psychological procedure,but it does not happen science definitely can answer most questions ,but not every single one. that is why homosexuals do exist in this world and noone till date has successfullyfound a way to change a persons sexual orientation.

i have seen in oprah winfrey show it was on "parents reaction to the homosexual child" except one father, every single parent said that they love their child irrespective of the sexual orientationwhich they do have or might have in future. its a question of acceptance and we gays or bisexuals feel odd because we are a minority,and especially in india where homosexuals are seen as some curse,india may also in sometime get out of this and accept homosexuals, in the same way it took time to abolish sati-pratha which all intelligent pundits at that time considered as the only path left for a widow, but things have changed and they will again change but what we have to do is wait.
but there is ofcourse much more in life than sex.your sexual orientation can never stop you from reaching where you want. it cannot hinder or thwart your success ,its definitely one of the most important aspect of one's life but not the only prominence.
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hi suhail
 don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made us like that 
so we are gay. god made us but we don't always like how he made us we don't like all lot of things about usand we try to change that so why cant live with those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we choose to gay and i has nothing with god making us this way.suhail khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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its a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.
so you are created by god finally and you should be at ease with it and respect his decision.ah_chaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: g_b why are we gay?

2005-10-03 Thread walnut



My Dear Friend,
Dont get so hyper. My mail reply is based on my observations and the things that I have read in the magazines and in the news papers. And always I have used the words..'May.be.''Possiblity'..'Bright chances..'' so what makes u so nervous..I really have no idea! Dont take it personally. Its Gay Group and we can discuss everything wholeheartedly...and thing that we discuss ..might attract different openions from different people.so just chill out dude

The person needs to be really brave to accept the truth afterall .

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

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dude,

Let me tell u the truth here. Being a Gay doesnt mean you differ from otherstraight guys in any way. Only the differene lies in your thinking and in your brain. When certain hormones are released in the brain, you tend to get attracted more towards men than women. Now if you marry a girl, you can also have a baby and it can be a boy or a girl. Only thing is..you will have to try hard to satisfy any girl simply because you are never satisfied by having a sex with a girl. But its seen most of the times that Gay guys have baby girls quiet often than baby Boys.
And whether its a baby boy or a baby girl...there are rbight chances that they may carry similar likings or sex patterns...BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY (PHYSICALLY) NOT DIFFERENT THAN STRAIGHT GUYSTAKE THIS OUT OF YOUR MINDOR ELSE YOU MAY RUIN YOUR LIFE AND MAY START FEELING LEFT OVERDONT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU IN ANY WAY.Its only in our thinking and not in our physique! 

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Re: g_b why are we gay?

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hi suhail
 don't you think you are taking the easy way out because god made us like that 
so we are gay. god made us but we don't always like how he made us we don't like all lot of things about usand we try to change that so why cant live with those, why we try to change our self, i hope you are getting what i am trying to say.don't you think being gay is a state of mind and we gay because we choose to gay and i has nothing with god making us this way.suhail khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi
its a simple answer that god made us gay, and so we are gay. its a simple thing though medically you will find some answers of why we are gay, but its all just science excuse. like same way a boy or a girl can ask why i am a boy or why i am a girl and science will tell all that when x chromosome meets y and all that, but finally was it not god who decided whether x will meet y or some else.
so you are created by god finally and you should be at ease with it and respect his decision.ah_chaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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