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Hank, Pls educate yourself on Obama's latest on immigration before you extend inane advise. One wishes to lark and back that running away solved all problems in life. Aditya Bondyopadhyay (Sent from my iPad or iPhone) On 30-Apr-2013, at 8:25 PM, ha krumholz hankql...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Ran, If you can I would try to come to the United States either for a visit or for employment. Here gay life is much more open than in most places. In fact 10 states now have same sex marriage and many have civil unions. Best of luck. Regards Hank From: Ran Raj ranra...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! Dear Friend, sorry ,god give u the strength ,its a very sad thing which happened with you . but its better to avoid such . take care god bless u and all kind regards From: sourendra das sourendra@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! -I do not know where do I start from, today I had one of the most horrible days in my life and reason, I am born gay. I am born in Calcutta and did my higher studies from Bombay, and while growing up, I did writing, I wrote for some of the big publications in India and abroad too. Then, I was in college when I got inclined towards fashion journalism, as it happened by chance and more so because fashion gave a new space, where people in myprofessional field respected my sexual orientation. I covered Lakme Fashion Weeks and Dubai Fashion Week, and somehow everywhere I went I felt fashionaccepts gay people more than any corporate field. I am 23 years old and like every other guy, I do feel a need for love and companionship and acceptance from society. Today, I feel like crying and relieving my heart,but I am pretending to be strong, as I am a guy, I should be strong. Today,someone abused me because I was gay. Well, long story short, I was homesickabout Calcutta, living all alone in Bombay. Bombay's luxuries life and all other glittery still made me miss home. So, once I finished my Graduation in English Literature in 2012 and did some writing work for a year, I felt I should do my Masters from Calcutta and re-unite to my roots. I knew this guy called Sona Kunda, as he used to come to the same gym where I workedout in Calcutta, many years back, when I was in school. Just on Friday, I was cycling in morning as sometimes I do, and this guy saw me in the road and started chatting up, and I have realized that in Calcutta or cities where LGBTI awareness is less, people somehow get attracted to me and never release that it is actually an attraction, sometimes it's non-sexual. To be honest, being gay doesn't give you friends, most people who come near me is because of the little success that I have achieved being a freelance journalist since last 9 years, I took the pen and I loved words as humanbeings dejected me calling me gay. So, I gave my love for printed words.This guy, Sona too came near me for the same reason, he apparently bypurpose came close to me and told me about his plans to live in Mumbai and how he needs Rs. 40 lakhs and he can even murder someone for that, well I took that as a joke, because sometimes I have seen (read rarely) that some young boys speak like that. Then, we indirectly seeked my help as I have many connections in Bombay, and forced me to exercise with him and took me to gym and latter to salon and his house. And I am such a guy, I do not force straight men to have sex with me. I always go for consensual sex and I do not believe in making gay people straight or straight people gay, I respect people's identity. This guy, Sona told me that how he is suppose to get Rs. 40 lakhs just by being with some women (Simran) for 2 years, apparently I do not know what he meant by all that he said to me. Well,sounds trange, but people somehow sometimes tell weird stuffs with me, Ihate it, as I am not a counsellor and not someone who can be dumped with all emotional garbages of other people. I am not interested in him, not had any sexual desire for him and neither did I have anything for him or something. Well, he called me at 7.22pm on Friday when I was studying and Idid not answer his call, also as my cell was in silent mode, I had anEntrance Exam for Masters in Fashion Management on Saturday noontime. I messaged him around 10pm when I went for dinner Studying dear. Take Care and did some revisions and slept to wake up early with fresh mind and study again. Around 12am, some girl called me named Simran, and woke me up from my sleep and started arguing that I sent Sona messages which she does not find appropriate and she went on to be more abusive, I told her
Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!!
Immigration is indeed difficult into the U.S. these days, though I wouldn't pile all of blame on President Obama. That said, it's very difficult to get into the USA, even to get a student visa. I also would suggest not being quite so strident about 'not running away'. Not everyone has the courage and self-confidence required to be an activist. And some places simply aren't going to change... I've been advising a friend in the UAE to 'just run away' to a place where he doesn't have to live a lie. Unfortunately, there is not much that I can do to aid him getting to the USA., but if he got here, I think he would have a valid claim of asylum. I don't think that asylum works when coming from India. Ron - ron lussier lenscraft.com On May 2, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Aditya Bondyopadhyay adit.b...@gmail.com wrote: Hank, Pls educate yourself on Obama's latest on immigration before you extend inane advise. One wishes to lark and back that running away solved all problems in life. Aditya Bondyopadhyay (Sent from my iPad or iPhone) On 30-Apr-2013, at 8:25 PM, ha krumholz hankql...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Ran, If you can I would try to come to the United States either for a visit or for employment. Here gay life is much more open than in most places. In fact 10 states now have same sex marriage and many have civil unions. Best of luck. Regards Hank From: Ran Raj ranra...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! Dear Friend, sorry ,god give u the strength ,its a very sad thing which happened with you . but its better to avoid such . take care god bless u and all kind regards From: sourendra das sourendra@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! -I do not know where do I start from, today I had one of the most horrible days in my life and reason, I am born gay. I am born in Calcutta and did my higher studies from Bombay, and while growing up, I did writing, I wrote for some of the big publications in India and abroad too. Then, I was in college when I got inclined towards fashion journalism, as it happened by chance and more so because fashion gave a new space, where people in myprofessional field respected my sexual orientation. I covered Lakme Fashion Weeks and Dubai Fashion Week, and somehow everywhere I went I felt fashionaccepts gay people more than any corporate field. I am 23 years old and like every other guy, I do feel a need for love and companionship and acceptance from society. Today, I feel like crying and relieving my heart,but I am pretending to be strong, as I am a guy, I should be strong. Today,someone abused me because I was gay. Well, long story short, I was homesickabout Calcutta, living all alone in Bombay. Bombay's luxuries life and all other glittery still made me miss home. So, once I finished my Graduation in English Literature in 2012 and did some writing work for a year, I felt I should do my Masters from Calcutta and re-unite to my roots. I knew this guy called Sona Kunda, as he used to come to the same gym where I workedout in Calcutta, many years back, when I was in school. Just on Friday, I was cycling in morning as sometimes I do, and this guy saw me in the road and started chatting up, and I have realized that in Calcutta or cities where LGBTI awareness is less, people somehow get attracted to me and never release that it is actually an attraction, sometimes it's non-sexual. To be honest, being gay doesn't give you friends, most people who come near me is because of the little success that I have achieved being a freelance journalist since last 9 years, I took the pen and I loved words as humanbeings dejected me calling me gay. So, I gave my love for printed words.This guy, Sona too came near me for the same reason, he apparently bypurpose came close to me and told me about his plans to live in Mumbai and how he needs Rs. 40 lakhs and he can even murder someone for that, well I took that as a joke, because sometimes I have seen (read rarely) that some young boys speak like that. Then, we indirectly seeked my help as I have many connections in Bombay, and forced me to exercise with him and took me to gym and latter to salon and his house. And I am such a guy, I do not force straight men to have sex with me. I always go for consensual sex and I do not believe in making gay people straight or straight people gay, I respect people's identity. This guy, Sona told me that how he is suppose to get Rs. 40 lakhs just by being with some women (Simran) for 2 years, apparently I do not know what he meant by all that he said to me. Well,sounds trange, but people somehow sometimes
Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!!
Dear Ran, If you can I would try to come to the United States either for a visit or for employment. Here gay life is much more open than in most places. In fact 10 states now have same sex marriage and many have civil unions. Best of luck. Regards Hank From: Ran Raj ranra...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:29 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! Dear Friend, sorry ,god give u the strength ,its a very sad thing which happened with you . but its better to avoid such . take care god bless u and all kind regards From: sourendra das sourendra@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! -I do not know where do I start from, today I had one of the most horrible days in my life and reason, I am born gay. I am born in Calcutta and did my higher studies from Bombay, and while growing up, I did writing, I wrote for some of the big publications in India and abroad too. Then, I was in college when I got inclined towards fashion journalism, as it happened by chance and more so because fashion gave a new space, where people in myprofessional field respected my sexual orientation. I covered Lakme Fashion Weeks and Dubai Fashion Week, and somehow everywhere I went I felt fashionaccepts gay people more than any corporate field. I am 23 years old and like every other guy, I do feel a need for love and companionship and acceptance from society. Today, I feel like crying and relieving my heart,but I am pretending to be strong, as I am a guy, I should be strong. Today,someone abused me because I was gay. Well, long story short, I was homesickabout Calcutta, living all alone in Bombay. Bombay's luxuries life and all other glittery still made me miss home. So, once I finished my Graduation in English Literature in 2012 and did some writing work for a year, I felt I should do my Masters from Calcutta and re-unite to my roots. I knew this guy called Sona Kunda, as he used to come to the same gym where I workedout in Calcutta, many years back, when I was in school. Just on Friday, I was cycling in morning as sometimes I do, and this guy saw me in the road and started chatting up, and I have realized that in Calcutta or cities where LGBTI awareness is less, people somehow get attracted to me and never release that it is actually an attraction, sometimes it's non-sexual. To be honest, being gay doesn't give you friends, most people who come near me is because of the little success that I have achieved being a freelance journalist since last 9 years, I took the pen and I loved words as humanbeings dejected me calling me gay. So, I gave my love for printed words.This guy, Sona too came near me for the same reason, he apparently bypurpose came close to me and told me about his plans to live in Mumbai and how he needs Rs. 40 lakhs and he can even murder someone for that, well I took that as a joke, because sometimes I have seen (read rarely) that some young boys speak like that. Then, we indirectly seeked my help as I have many connections in Bombay, and forced me to exercise with him and took me to gym and latter to salon and his house. And I am such a guy, I do not force straight men to have sex with me. I always go for consensual sex and I do not believe in making gay people straight or straight people gay, I respect people's identity. This guy, Sona told me that how he is suppose to get Rs. 40 lakhs just by being with some women (Simran) for 2 years, apparently I do not know what he meant by all that he said to me. Well,sounds trange, but people somehow sometimes tell weird stuffs with me, Ihate it, as I am not a counsellor and not someone who can be dumped with all emotional garbages of other people. I am not interested in him, not had any sexual desire for him and neither did I have anything for him or something. Well, he called me at 7.22pm on Friday when I was studying and Idid not answer his call, also as my cell was in silent mode, I had anEntrance Exam for Masters in Fashion Management on Saturday noontime. I messaged him around 10pm when I went for dinner Studying dear. Take Care and did some revisions and slept to wake up early with fresh mind and study again. Around 12am, some girl called me named Simran, and woke me up from my sleep and started arguing that I sent Sona messages which she does not find appropriate and she went on to be more abusive, I told her to mind her own business and told her 12am is not the time to call any decent person and kept the phone, trying to sleep. Well, latter that night Sona abused mein sms that I was not calling u it was by mistake i m not even interested to see u as u r gay so try someonle else u
Re: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!!
Yes it is a sad story... I can very clearly see 2 dimensions in this experience 1) This guy was desperate for some quick cash from you or your contacts which didn't happen 2) Just another pathetic wanna be gay guy, when busted by girl friend wanted to prove that he is a Str8 MAN Anyways you should move on with your life which is much better then that loser the best way for Indian gay community would be to stop considering ourselves as some victim excel in which ever profession we are. Soon our society will release accept us as equal Would apologies if sounded bit rough Cheers! Vikraam
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Dear Friend, sorry ,god give u the strength ,its a very sad thing which happened with you . but its better to avoid such . take care god bless u and all kind regards From: sourendra das sourendra@gmail.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com; gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!! A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! - I do not know where do I start from, today I had one of the most horrible days in my life and reason, I am born gay. I am born in Calcutta and did my higher studies from Bombay, and while growing up, I did writing, I wrote for some of the big publications in India and abroad too. Then, I was in college when I got inclined towards fashion journalism, as it happened by chance and more so because fashion gave a new space, where people in myprofessional field respected my sexual orientation. I covered Lakme Fashion Weeks and Dubai Fashion Week, and somehow everywhere I went I felt fashionaccepts gay people more than any corporate field. I am 23 years old and like every other guy, I do feel a need for love and companionship and acceptance from society. Today, I feel like crying and relieving my heart,but I am pretending to be strong, as I am a guy, I should be strong. Today,someone abused me because I was gay. Well, long story short, I was homesick about Calcutta, living all alone in Bombay. Bombay's luxuries life and all other glittery still made me miss home. So, once I finished my Graduation in English Literature in 2012 and did some writing work for a year, I felt I should do my Masters from Calcutta and re-unite to my roots. I knew this guy called Sona Kunda, as he used to come to the same gym where I worked out in Calcutta, many years back, when I was in school. Just on Friday, I was cycling in morning as sometimes I do, and this guy saw me in the road and started chatting up, and I have realized that in Calcutta or cities where LGBTI awareness is less, people somehow get attracted to me and never release that it is actually an attraction, sometimes it's non-sexual. To be honest, being gay doesn't give you friends, most people who come near me is because of the little success that I have achieved being a freelance journalist since last 9 years, I took the pen and I loved words as human beings dejected me calling me gay. So, I gave my love for printed words. This guy, Sona too came near me for the same reason, he apparently by purpose came close to me and told me about his plans to live in Mumbai and how he needs Rs. 40 lakhs and he can even murder someone for that, well I took that as a joke, because sometimes I have seen (read rarely) that some young boys speak like that. Then, we indirectly seeked my help as I have many connections in Bombay, and forced me to exercise with him and took me to gym and latter to salon and his house. And I am such a guy, I do not force straight men to have sex with me. I always go for consensual sex and I do not believe in making gay people straight or straight people gay, I respect people's identity. This guy, Sona told me that how he is suppose to get Rs. 40 lakhs just by being with some women (Simran) for 2 years, apparently I do not know what he meant by all that he said to me. Well,sounds trange, but people somehow sometimes tell weird stuffs with me, I hate it, as I am not a counsellor and not someone who can be dumped with all emotional garbages of other people. I am not interested in him, not had any sexual desire for him and neither did I have anything for him or something. Well, he called me at 7.22pm on Friday when I was studying and I did not answer his call, also as my cell was in silent mode, I had an Entrance Exam for Masters in Fashion Management on Saturday noontime. I messaged him around 10pm when I went for dinner Studying dear. Take Care and did some revisions and slept to wake up early with fresh mind and study again. Around 12am, some girl called me named Simran, and woke me up from my sleep and started arguing that I sent Sona messages which she does not find appropriate and she went on to be more abusive, I told her to mind her own business and told her 12am is not the time to call any decent person and kept the phone, trying to sleep. Well, latter that night Sona abused me in sms that I was not calling u it was by mistake i m not even interested to see u as u r gay so try someonle else u defective peice u gay and Simran wrote to me stop disturbing n who is defective u know better then me go n ask ur parents baby. Now u will suffer u defective piece Well, my simple msg Studying dear. Take Care can be misinterpreted like this as a flirting message, and well in Bombay in parties, we kiss friends, and we air kiss, and we say - baby, sweetheart, honey, love, sweets, dear, and the likes to almost anyone we meet in parties and in social gatherings. Well, then this guy Sona
g_b A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! Needs Help !!!
A Shockingly Sad Tale !!! - I do not know where do I start from, today I had one of the most horrible days in my life and reason, I am born gay. I am born in Calcutta and did my higher studies from Bombay, and while growing up, I did writing, I wrote for some of the big publications in India and abroad too. Then, I was in college when I got inclined towards fashion journalism, as it happened by chance and more so because fashion gave a new space, where people in myprofessional field respected my sexual orientation. I covered Lakme Fashion Weeks and Dubai Fashion Week, and somehow everywhere I went I felt fashionaccepts gay people more than any corporate field. I am 23 years old and like every other guy, I do feel a need for love and companionship and acceptance from society. Today, I feel like crying and relieving my heart,but I am pretending to be strong, as I am a guy, I should be strong. Today,someone abused me because I was gay. Well, long story short, I was homesick about Calcutta, living all alone in Bombay. Bombay's luxuries life and all other glittery still made me miss home. So, once I finished my Graduation in English Literature in 2012 and did some writing work for a year, I felt I should do my Masters from Calcutta and re-unite to my roots. I knew this guy called Sona Kunda, as he used to come to the same gym where I worked out in Calcutta, many years back, when I was in school. Just on Friday, I was cycling in morning as sometimes I do, and this guy saw me in the road and started chatting up, and I have realized that in Calcutta or cities where LGBTI awareness is less, people somehow get attracted to me and never release that it is actually an attraction, sometimes it's non-sexual. To be honest, being gay doesn't give you friends, most people who come near me is because of the little success that I have achieved being a freelance journalist since last 9 years, I took the pen and I loved words as human beings dejected me calling me gay. So, I gave my love for printed words. This guy, Sona too came near me for the same reason, he apparently by purpose came close to me and told me about his plans to live in Mumbai and how he needs Rs. 40 lakhs and he can even murder someone for that, well I took that as a joke, because sometimes I have seen (read rarely) that some young boys speak like that. Then, we indirectly seeked my help as I have many connections in Bombay, and forced me to exercise with him and took me to gym and latter to salon and his house. And I am such a guy, I do not force straight men to have sex with me. I always go for consensual sex and I do not believe in making gay people straight or straight people gay, I respect people's identity. This guy, Sona told me that how he is suppose to get Rs. 40 lakhs just by being with some women (Simran) for 2 years, apparently I do not know what he meant by all that he said to me. Well,sounds trange, but people somehow sometimes tell weird stuffs with me, I hate it, as I am not a counsellor and not someone who can be dumped with all emotional garbages of other people. I am not interested in him, not had any sexual desire for him and neither did I have anything for him or something. Well, he called me at 7.22pm on Friday when I was studying and I did not answer his call, also as my cell was in silent mode, I had an Entrance Exam for Masters in Fashion Management on Saturday noontime. I messaged him around 10pm when I went for dinner Studying dear. Take Care and did some revisions and slept to wake up early with fresh mind and study again. Around 12am, some girl called me named Simran, and woke me up from my sleep and started arguing that I sent Sona messages which she does not find appropriate and she went on to be more abusive, I told her to mind her own business and told her 12am is not the time to call any decent person and kept the phone, trying to sleep. Well, latter that night Sona abused me in sms that I was not calling u it was by mistake i m not even interested to see u as u r gay so try someonle else u defective peice u gay and Simran wrote to me stop disturbing n who is defective u know better then me go n ask ur parents baby. Now u will suffer u defective piece Well, my simple msg Studying dear. Take Care can be misinterpreted like this as a flirting message, and well in Bombay in parties, we kiss friends, and we air kiss, and we say - baby, sweetheart, honey, love, sweets, dear, and the likes to almost anyone we meet in parties and in social gatherings. Well, then this guy Sona harassed me by calling me so many times, I hardly answered his call, because I had to concentrate on my studies. I finished Exam and then went for a movie. I was returning home, when I was in a cycle rickshaw and this guy Sona chased me, and put up a big fight in the street,calling me gay and what not!!! He looks like a goon, and hardly speaks English or not really educated. For a moment, I
