Re: OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21
On 27 April 2011 21:45, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote: Attached please find the minutes of Governing Board's meeting on 2011/4/21. They're also available on the web: http://openjdk.java.net/groups/gb/minutes/2011-04-21 Respectfully submitted, - Mark So in short, this unelected self-imposed board has already started to interfere with OpenJDK by preventing work on OpenJDK 8 from happening in the open and being subject to public review. That stinks. -- Andrew :-) Free Java Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com) Support Free Java! Contribute to GNU Classpath and the OpenJDK http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath http://openjdk.java.net PGP Key: F5862A37 (https://keys.indymedia.org/) Fingerprint = EA30 D855 D50F 90CD F54D 0698 0713 C3ED F586 2A37
Re: OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21
On 28 April 2011 11:05, Henri Gomez henri.go...@gmail.com wrote: Concretely what could be done to make OpenJDK more community/open aware ? Well, as a start, this governance board could stop interfering and just allow people to get on with writing good code. The previous interim board was great in that it didn't interfere, but was there, should any issues arise that needed its attention. -- Andrew :-)
Re: OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21
On 28/04/11 11:15, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote: On 28 April 2011 10:56, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: So, it takes two for tango, and sadly -as a former FSF contributor-, I can´t say I know what the FSF´s true intentions are anymore, and that rants like Andrew´s which start by attacking the governing board contribute very little to a climate of collaboration or moving things forward, unless of course the aim is to create the self-fulfilling prophecy, that is in this case, a fork. I don't see what the FSF has to do with this. I think Fernando is confused by your email address. Andrew.
Re: OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21
2011/4/28 4:19 -0700, si...@webmink.com: On 28 Apr 2011, at 11:13, Doug Lea wrote: (This was the first meeting for which we have recorded minutes, because we decided to operate meetings as if the Draft 8 Bylaws were in effect.) So have the community concerns and suggestions that have already been offered been considered in detail, or should be repeat them when Draft 8 appears? They've been considered in detail, and a response to each has been formulated. As Doug said, these responses are unfortunately held up at the moment awaiting review from Oracle's legal department. ... We (instigated by me) decided that we can't keep producing documents and making follow-on decisions until at least the bylaws draft is cleared for final community review and ratification. I don't know of a better plan. Sounds reasonable. Is the process for community ratification decided yet? I didn't see that in the minutes either. No, that's not yet decided. We should have a proposal for that soon. - Mark