external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Piervit
Hello,

Here is a two lines patch, allowing to use debug_dominance_info and
debug_dominance_tree functions outside of gcc/dominance.c. For the
moment, those functions are not declared in any gcc/*.h files (as far as
I know after trying a grep). I have added them as external functions
into gcc/basic-block.h. I feel this is useful to be able to call those
functions from others files, for exemple from plugins.

ChangeLog:

2011-05-23  Pierre Vittet  pier...@pvittet.com

* basic-block.h (debug_dominance_info, debug_dominance_tree):
  Add declaration.Index: gcc/basic-block.h
===
--- gcc/basic-block.h	(revision 174056)
+++ gcc/basic-block.h	(working copy)
@@ -882,6 +882,9 @@ extern basic_block get_bb_copy (basic_block);
 void set_loop_copy (struct loop *, struct loop *);
 struct loop *get_loop_copy (struct loop *);
 
+extern void debug_dominance_info (enum cdi_direction dir);
+extern void debug_dominance_tree (enum cdi_direction dir, basic_block root);
+
 #include cfghooks.h
 
 /* Return true when one of the predecessor edges of BB is marked with EDGE_EH.  */


Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Basile Starynkevitch
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:33:55AM +0200, Piervit wrote:
 
 Here is a two lines patch, allowing to use debug_dominance_info and
 debug_dominance_tree functions outside of gcc/dominance.c. 

 +extern void debug_dominance_info (enum cdi_direction dir);
 +extern void debug_dominance_tree (enum cdi_direction dir, basic_block root);
 +
  #include cfghooks.h

Please put all declarations after the #include, and add a simple comment 
describing 
what the functions are doing.

With this improvement, I really hope the patch will be accepted, 
because plugins really need to be able to call all the debug printing routines. 
As I told many times, debug printing routines are more useful 
for novice plugin developers that to experts working since many years on GCC.

Regards 
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Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Richard Guenther
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Piervit pier...@pvittet.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Here is a two lines patch, allowing to use debug_dominance_info and
 debug_dominance_tree functions outside of gcc/dominance.c. For the
 moment, those functions are not declared in any gcc/*.h files (as far as
 I know after trying a grep). I have added them as external functions
 into gcc/basic-block.h. I feel this is useful to be able to call those
 functions from others files, for exemple from plugins.

debug_* functions are supposed to be used from interactive gdb sessions.
They should not be advertised in public headers.

Richard.

 ChangeLog:

 2011-05-23  Pierre Vittet  pier...@pvittet.com

        * basic-block.h (debug_dominance_info, debug_dominance_tree):
          Add declaration.


Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Piervit
Le Mon, 23 May 2011 11:30:34 +0200,
Richard Guenther richard.guent...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Piervit pier...@pvittet.com wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Here is a two lines patch, allowing to use debug_dominance_info and
  debug_dominance_tree functions outside of gcc/dominance.c. For the
  moment, those functions are not declared in any gcc/*.h files (as
  far as I know after trying a grep). I have added them as external
  functions into gcc/basic-block.h. I feel this is useful to be able
  to call those functions from others files, for exemple from plugins.
 
 debug_* functions are supposed to be used from interactive gdb
 sessions. They should not be advertised in public headers.
 
 Richard.
 
  ChangeLog:
 
  2011-05-23  Pierre Vittet  pier...@pvittet.com
 
         * basic-block.h (debug_dominance_info, debug_dominance_tree):
           Add declaration.

Thank you for your answer. I am sorry I was not aware of this rule.
However I have try the following command in the gcc/ directory:

pierre@zenwalk gcc %grep  debug_* *.h | wc -l
231

And the majority of the result are debug_* functions in header file,
such as extern void debug_tree (tree); in tree.h, extern void
debug_pass (void); in tree-pass.h and many others.


Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Richard Guenther
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Basile Starynkevitch
bas...@starynkevitch.net wrote:
 On Mon, 23 May 2011 11:56:32 +0200
 Piervit pier...@pvittet.com wrote:

 Le Mon, 23 May 2011 11:30:34 +0200,
 Richard Guenther richard.guent...@gmail.com a écrit :

  On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Piervit pier...@pvittet.com wrote:
   Hello,
  
   Here is a two lines patch, allowing to use debug_dominance_info and
   debug_dominance_tree functions outside of gcc/dominance.c. For the
   moment, those functions are not declared in any gcc/*.h files (as
   far as I know after trying a grep). I have added them as external
   functions into gcc/basic-block.h. I feel this is useful to be able
   to call those functions from others files, for exemple from plugins.
 
  debug_* functions are supposed to be used from interactive gdb
  sessions. They should not be advertised in public headers.
 
  Richard.
 
   ChangeLog:
  
   2011-05-23  Pierre Vittet  pier...@pvittet.com
  
          * basic-block.h (debug_dominance_info, debug_dominance_tree):
            Add declaration.

 Thank you for your answer. I am sorry I was not aware of this rule.
 However I have try the following command in the gcc/ directory:

 pierre@zenwalk gcc %grep  debug_* *.h | wc -l
 231

 And the majority of the result are debug_* functions in header file,
 such as extern void debug_tree (tree); in tree.h, extern void
 debug_pass (void); in tree-pass.h and many others.

 I was expecting Richard Guenther to say no at first to any patch,
 especially when it is by a newbie. (Sorry Richie, but you do have your
 reputation).   But I would like to hear the position of others (in
 particular Diego Novillo, who did long time ago accept a similar patch
 from my part).

They clutter generic headerfiles which are supposed to present generally
usable functions.

If somebody thinks an external prototype is useful (apart from just shutting
up -Wstrict-prototypes) then please move all of these prototypes to a
new debug-functions.h headerfile.

A broken present state doesn't mean we have to continue adding to it.

 If really all debug_* functions are only for the ease of gdb, they
 should not be declared in public header files and should not be
 available to plugins. I believe on the contrary that plugin coders need
 much more than experienced GCC hackers some debug help, and that indeed
 the existing debug functions are helping them.

You can just declare them in your plugin.

 So I don't buy Richie's argument. Otherwise, someone would propose a
 patch to remove the hundreds of debug_ declarations in public header
 files (i.e. those visible to plugins), and if he did, I hope such a
 naughty patch won't be accepted.

Such a patch would be pre-approved by me ;)  Watch for not breaking
-Wstrict-prototypes and move them to their respective .c file.

 As I told many many times, debug functions are mostly useful to newbies
 and to plugin developers. People (like Richie) working on GCC since the
 previous century don't need them. But people working on some plugins

In fact I regularly use them from gdb.  And I use them for printf style
debugging as well by just sticking a prototype to wherever I need them.

Come on, you can't at the same time argue for modularization of GCC
with clean interfaces and sprinkle functions around those interfaces
that are _not_ part of any interface (but in some case randomly spit
output to random places).

 for a few months (or young newbies starting to work on GCC) will be
 desperate if these functions vanished. And these debug functions don't
 cost at all: they are never called in normal GCC executions! So I don't
 understand why declaring in a plugin header an existing debug function
 is such an issue.

plugin header?  what's that?

 Hence, as Pierre's GSOC mentor, I told him to perservate on this patch
 and I hope it will be accepted some day!!

 GCC need more facilities for newbies  plugin developpers, not less!

We also need them a) easily discoverable, b) easily identifiable as
if they are supposed to be used or not.

And yes, I know you, Basile, are arguing for all sorts of random stuff with
very elaborate and long e-mails.  That doesn't usually make your arguments
stronger though. (Sorry Basile, you have your reputation, too :))

Richard.


 Regards.

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Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Nathan Froyd
On 05/23/2011 04:23 PM, Richard Guenther wrote:
 So I don't buy Richie's argument. Otherwise, someone would propose a
 patch to remove the hundreds of debug_ declarations in public header
 files (i.e. those visible to plugins), and if he did, I hope such a
 naughty patch won't be accepted.
 
 Such a patch would be pre-approved by me ;)  Watch for not breaking
 -Wstrict-prototypes and move them to their respective .c file.

JFTR, the reason some of the prototypes are in headers are that they are
*gasp* needed by multiple files in GCC (debug_tree comes to mind).  Removing
the ones that aren't so needed would be useful, but you can't delete them all
willy-nilly.

-Nathan





Re: external declaration of dominance debug functions

2011-05-23 Thread Richard Guenther
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Nathan Froyd froy...@codesourcery.com wrote:
 On 05/23/2011 04:23 PM, Richard Guenther wrote:
 So I don't buy Richie's argument. Otherwise, someone would propose a
 patch to remove the hundreds of debug_ declarations in public header
 files (i.e. those visible to plugins), and if he did, I hope such a
 naughty patch won't be accepted.

 Such a patch would be pre-approved by me ;)  Watch for not breaking
 -Wstrict-prototypes and move them to their respective .c file.

 JFTR, the reason some of the prototypes are in headers are that they are
 *gasp* needed by multiple files in GCC (debug_tree comes to mind).  Removing
 the ones that aren't so needed would be useful, but you can't delete them all
 willy-nilly.

You can surely move those to a debug-functions.h file.  debug_tree is probably
an example of misuse as well  - we have a nearly perfect print_node which should
be used by other debug functions.

Richard.

 -Nathan