Re: [Geany-devel] Future of GeanyGDB - [was: Geany Plugins Warnings (again)]
On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:01:22 +0100 Dominic Hopf dma...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, den 28.10.2011, 16:46 -0700 schrieb Matthew Brush: 1) There are guys out there who write C code and may use debugging plugins from within Geany. There are at least two alternative plugins which would do the job. I'd love to know your honest opinion which one you actually prefer. I think there's only the Debugger plugin as an alternative, no? I think I remember some other stuff as well, but this was quite long ago and I couldn't find those ad-hoc. The Debugger plugin looks quite better than GeanyGDB at a first quick view (I didn't had a chance to look deeper into it before). 2) Wasn't it discussed before that we maybe remove GeanyGDB after the 0.21 release? - I'm not sure about this and to lazy to investigate for the mails. :) I'd say if the Debugger plugin is in good enough shape, it would be ok to remove GeanyGDB. I guess we should see how many people use it though and ask them if they'd like to maintain it (ex. on the general geany list). Let's start a poll somewhere.. :) I think just doing here on list is fine. I'd say deprecate geanyGDB and check whether some features might are missing from inside Debugger. Once the list is empty, we can remove it from source tree. Cheers, Frank -- http://frank.uvena.de/en/ pgpCjcEtKPOBg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Future of GeanyGDB - [was: Geany Plugins Warnings (again)]
Am Freitag, den 28.10.2011, 16:02 -0700 schrieb Matthew Brush: The only plugin with non-trivial (by way of quantity) warnings to fix was GeanyGDB. I don't know if this is maintained any more or if it's needed with having the Debugger plugin, but if it is, the author(s) should go through and fix all their `const` usage themselves. The attached patch for GeanyGDB only fixes a few usages but exposes much more warnings, so it might be of little use. The original author of this plugin was Jeff Pohlmeyer, I'm afraid he will not read this, though. I took over the maintainership long time ago, approx. at the beginning of 2010 (or maybe earlier) to not have an unmaintained plugin within the Geany-Plugins project. Seems I was out of my estimation regarding what it means to maintain such an amount of C code written by someone else - having in mind that I'm not that skilled in C (I'd call myself rather a beginner in writing C). I actually didn't wrote C since a few month now and also do not use GeanyGDB at present. I appreciate any efforts and patches which may improve GeanyGDB and would apply any contributed stuff for that plugin, but I'd like to discuss some questions (IIRC some may also were earlier discussed before): 1) There are guys out there who write C code and may use debugging plugins from within Geany. There are at least two alternative plugins which would do the job. I'd love to know your honest opinion which one you actually prefer. 2) Wasn't it discussed before that we maybe remove GeanyGDB after the 0.21 release? - I'm not sure about this and to lazy to investigate for the mails. :) 3) Is there anyone out there who alternatively would like to maintain and improve GeanyGDB (and is more skilled in C than me :) ). 4) I of course appreciate Matthews patch and like to apply it, but that most likely should wait at least until we moved to GitHub with Geany-Plugins, should it? Regards, Dominic -- Dominic Hopf dma...@googlemail.com http://dominichopf.de/ Key Fingerprint: A7DF C4FC 07AE 4DDC 5CA0 BD93 AAB0 6019 CA7D 868D signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
Re: [Geany-devel] Future of GeanyGDB - [was: Geany Plugins Warnings (again)]
On 10/28/2011 04:27 PM, Dominic Hopf wrote: Am Freitag, den 28.10.2011, 16:02 -0700 schrieb Matthew Brush: The only plugin with non-trivial (by way of quantity) warnings to fix was GeanyGDB. I don't know if this is maintained any more or if it's needed with having the Debugger plugin, but if it is, the author(s) should go through and fix all their `const` usage themselves. The attached patch for GeanyGDB only fixes a few usages but exposes much more warnings, so it might be of little use. The original author of this plugin was Jeff Pohlmeyer, I'm afraid he will not read this, though. I took over the maintainership long time ago, approx. at the beginning of 2010 (or maybe earlier) to not have an unmaintained plugin within the Geany-Plugins project. Seems I was out of my estimation regarding what it means to maintain such an amount of C code written by someone else - having in mind that I'm not that skilled in C (I'd call myself rather a beginner in writing C). I actually didn't wrote C since a few month now and also do not use GeanyGDB at present. It's almost all just that the const-incorrectness everywhere in the existing code is causing a zillion warnings. It doesn't necessarily mean the code is bad or broken, just that it's going to cause a ton of warnings and could possibly have some weird memory issues IIUC. Maybe if no one can fix the warnings, there's a way to disable the specific warnings for that plugin alone in the build systems? I appreciate any efforts and patches which may improve GeanyGDB and would apply any contributed stuff for that plugin, but I'd like to discuss some questions (IIRC some may also were earlier discussed before): 1) There are guys out there who write C code and may use debugging plugins from within Geany. There are at least two alternative plugins which would do the job. I'd love to know your honest opinion which one you actually prefer. I think there's only the Debugger plugin as an alternative, no? I had only tried the Debugger plugin when it first landed in G-P, so it was quite buggy still, but the general concept/UI was quite nice and I know it's being worked on quite frequently, so it's probably improved quite a bit since then. 2) Wasn't it discussed before that we maybe remove GeanyGDB after the 0.21 release? - I'm not sure about this and to lazy to investigate for the mails. :) I'd say if the Debugger plugin is in good enough shape, it would be ok to remove GeanyGDB. I guess we should see how many people use it though and ask them if they'd like to maintain it (ex. on the general geany list). 3) Is there anyone out there who alternatively would like to maintain and improve GeanyGDB (and is more skilled in C than me :) ). No thanks :) 4) I of course appreciate Matthews patch and like to apply it, but that most likely should wait at least until we moved to GitHub with Geany-Plugins, should it? I wouldn't apply the patch for that at all. It's the only one of those patches that's totally incomplete and it will probably cause all kinds of strange bugs and even more warnings. Cheers, Matthew Brush ___ Geany-devel mailing list Geany-devel@uvena.de https://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
