RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
Thanks Julie and Chad, Fortunately, I have the room to remove the pairs from their larger holding cages and place them each into cages that are roughly the size of 30 gal tanks. In the meantime, I'll replace all props from the breeding cages, scrub down the cages themselves, and wait about 30 days before I place the new pairs in them. I'll watch closely for any signs of aggression and we'll see how it goes. Again, thanks for the advice. Best... Jim Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Bergman Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:44 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure there is no sustained aggression. Julie B. Chad Osborne wrote: I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?? Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
Sounds like an excellent plan! Hitchiner, Jim wrote: Thanks Julie and Chad, Fortunately, I have the room to remove the pairs from their larger holding cages and place them each into cages that are roughly the size of 30 gal tanks. In the meantime, I'll replace all props from the breeding cages, scrub down the cages themselves, and wait about 30 days before I place the new pairs in them. I'll watch closely for any signs of aggression and we'll see how it goes. Again, thanks for the advice. Best... Jim Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Bergman Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:44 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure there is no sustained aggression. Julie B. Chad Osborne wrote: I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?? Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko -- ~~ HeartSong Sanctuary A conservation project for Asian turtles Also day geckos, crested geckos, and frogs http://www.heartsongsanctuary.org/ ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
You can always try repairings - just observe them closely to make sure there is no sustained aggression. Julie B. Chad Osborne wrote: I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It’s more of a wait and see kind of thing. I’ve had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?? Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I’ve 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible “cousin” pair? All are relatively young animals, the “cousins” pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best…. Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list gecko@lists.gekkota.com http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
I think that would work. They may not produce this year. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing. I've had them and replaced one after they had been together 20 years (because one died) with no problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?? Jim _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best.. Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
[gecko]Changing established breeders....
Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best Jim
RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best.. Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders....
Chad, Each of the pairs has been together for at least 2 years. I have had egg production from both. I have paired up other so-called monogamous animals before, with other mates, but I usually let the original animals stay by themselves for a few weeks before I do a reintroduction. Do you think a lengthy separation of at least a month should be OK or?? Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Osborne Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:08 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Changing established breeders How long have they been together? chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hitchiner, Jim Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:55 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: [gecko]Changing established breeders Hi All, I've 2 pairs of P. standingi. I would like to switch their respective mates around as I have found out that one pair could be 1st cousins, while the other pair is completely unrelated. All 4 of the animals have grandparents and great-grandparents that were w/c. Since I understand that this taxon can be monogamous, do any of you foresee a problem if I perform a switch to break up the possible cousin pair? All are relatively young animals, the cousins pair were hatched in different months in early 2003, and the other pair were hatched in different months in late 2004. Best Jim __ NOD32 2388 (20070710) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
