Re: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating!
RED EYE what's up?? long time no see-hear. Burke/atatboy red eye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for granting his wish Regards, red-eye - Original Message From: Christenson, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:41:59 PM Subject: RE: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating! Jacob Summers has been removed from the list for violating the GGA rules of good conduct. Greg Christenson GGA Webmaster From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sommers Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:06 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating! Oh yeah, One more thing...is it even legal to ship fruitflies to Hawaii.;) GECKOsRUL Do not mettle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with Ketchup. A censor is a man who knows more than he thinks you ought to. -- Granville Hicks
Re: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating!
Hi Sherron, How's Li'i doing? BTW don't let one cranky person scare you off, the rest of us were having a good time talking about geckos and stuff ;-) Melody Sherron wrote: Aloha, Melody Thanks for the info on Ed's, I will see if they can ship to me. Or will see if Sunshine will take me with your references. So much appreciated! ;) We are trying to get that tail skin off again and are having so many problems! We thought she was hard to handle before, but now she is a little terror!! She is faster than a speeding bullet -- must be all those fruit flies she is eating! We don't know how to actually hold her down -- we are afraid we will break her, as she is so tiny and she is really fast! She is only holding still for a fraction of a second -- she knows the drill now, and all the tricks to get away. Dennis tries to wet her skin and get a grip with the tweezers while I try to keep her from leaping off his lap. But she is a real moving target! And now she is doing something else that has us worried -- she keeps opening her mouth really wild and gaping. She doesn't make any noise so I don't know if she is gasping for air or not, but I don't think we could hear her if she was. I know she hates what we are doing, but we aren't sure if she is really in distress or not. My husband got worried so we put her back in the steam bath to loosen the skin up some more (it moved only a tiny bit), but I wondered if you could shed some light on the gaping. I know some animals, like birds, can actually die from emotional distress, but I don't think geckos fall into that category. Will it hurt her if we continue even though she is showing signs of acute distress? Or could there really be something wrong with her that we just haven't noticed before? I know she was eating today as I saw her catch and eat at least a couple of fruit flies earlier this morning. Or is the little stinker smarter than us and has just gotten us figured out already and knows what buttons to push? ;) Cooston where I grew up wasn't much of a town, either. And we lived about 10 miles outside of it anyway. The closest big town to us was North Bend/Coos Bay. I have very fond memories of Oregon, though. It was a great place to grow up, especially for a tomboy like me. I always loved all the animals and the woods ... I had pet frogs, salamanders, timber beetles, snakes, lizards, chickens, crawdads, chipmunks, anything I could get my hands on. I used to drive my poor mom wild. ;) Oh and the berries! There is no place like Oregon for the berries! Salmonberries, huckleberries, thimbleberries, blackberries .. yumm! My best friend and I drove from Southern California up through Oregon to where we lived about 10 years ago and stopped for blackberries along the way every place we spotted them! Great trip! ;) Thanks, Sherron Melody Hartley wrote: Hi Sharron, I get fruit flies from Ed's Fly Meat, http://www.edsflymeatinc.com. They're near Seattle Washington. (There is no Ed, that's for Erin and Dave -- nice folks!) If they can't ship to Hawaii they might know of someone near you who keeps dart frogs and would help. I'd suggest also getting a bag of their fruit fly medium so you can raise your own. It's pretty easy, and I can give you some tips if/when you get to that. I think they sell supplements too, so might have the Rep-Cal. If your gecko gets UVB from natural direct sunshine (not through a window) you don't need the kind with D3 in it. Elizabeth suggested Sunshine Mealworms, and I agree. They're in Silverton Oregon. I think they are not taking new mealworm customers for a while, but you might tell them that Elizabeth and I recommended them and maybe that will make a difference ;-) You mentioned that you thought the old skin on Li'i's tail is getting tighter. She is probably just growing on your hand-fed gourmet diet! Geckos store fat in their tails. An idea on removing the skin: See if you can get it to split by using 2 pairs of tweezers and gently pulling on the edge closest to her body. This probably would need a second person holding the gecko. Aloha is about 10 miles west of Portland, between Beaverton and Hillsboro. It's not exactly a town -- everything runs together here now and it never was much of a town. But I like the name too ;-D My geckos would love some of those big fruit flies! I'm sure you can't ship them to Oregon though, LOL! Best of luck! Melody Gecko wrote: Aloha, Melody Flightless fruit flies!! Wouldn't she like that!! I will have to google for them and see if I can get them into Hawaii! I have to have an import license to have mealworms shipped to me to feed the geckos! Right now, we are having problems finding someone to ship quickly enough in the summer, even with the license. We need a good supplier that ships from somewhere near the west coast as all the places I know are mid or east coast. A mealworm import license is $50 a year for unlimited
RE: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating!
Jacob Summers has been removed from the list for violating the GGA rules of good conduct. Greg Christenson GGA Webmaster From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sommers Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:06 PM To: gecko@lists.gekkota.com Subject: RE: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating! Oh yeah, One more thing...is it even legal to ship fruitflies to Hawaii.;) GECKOsRUL
Re: [gecko]Li'i isn't cooperating!
Aloha, Melody Thanks for the info on Ed's, I will see if they can ship to me. Or will see if Sunshine will take me with your references. So much appreciated! ;) We are trying to get that tail skin off again and are having so many problems! We thought she was hard to handle before, but now she is a little terror!! She is faster than a speeding bullet -- must be all those fruit flies she is eating! We don't know how to actually hold her down -- we are afraid we will break her, as she is so tiny and she is really fast! She is only holding still for a fraction of a second -- she knows the drill now, and all the tricks to get away. Dennis tries to wet her skin and get a grip with the tweezers while I try to keep her from leaping off his lap. But she is a real moving target! And now she is doing something else that has us worried -- she keeps opening her mouth really wild and gaping. She doesn't make any noise so I don't know if she is gasping for air or not, but I don't think we could hear her if she was. I know she hates what we are doing, but we aren't sure if she is really in distress or not. My husband got worried so we put her back in the steam bath to loosen the skin up some more (it moved only a tiny bit), but I wondered if you could shed some light on the gaping. I know some animals, like birds, can actually die from emotional distress, but I don't think geckos fall into that category. Will it hurt her if we continue even though she is showing signs of acute distress? Or could there really be something wrong with her that we just haven't noticed before? I know she was eating today as I saw her catch and eat at least a couple of fruit flies earlier this morning. Or is the little stinker smarter than us and has just gotten us figured out already and knows what buttons to push? ;) Cooston where I grew up wasn't much of a town, either. And we lived about 10 miles outside of it anyway. The closest big town to us was North Bend/Coos Bay. I have very fond memories of Oregon, though. It was a great place to grow up, especially for a tomboy like me. I always loved all the animals and the woods ... I had pet frogs, salamanders, timber beetles, snakes, lizards, chickens, crawdads, chipmunks, anything I could get my hands on. I used to drive my poor mom wild. ;) Oh and the berries! There is no place like Oregon for the berries! Salmonberries, huckleberries, thimbleberries, blackberries .. yumm! My best friend and I drove from Southern California up through Oregon to where we lived about 10 years ago and stopped for blackberries along the way every place we spotted them! Great trip! ;) Thanks, Sherron Melody Hartley wrote: Hi Sharron, I get fruit flies from Ed's Fly Meat, http://www.edsflymeatinc.com. They're near Seattle Washington. (There is no Ed, that's for Erin and Dave -- nice folks!) If they can't ship to Hawaii they might know of someone near you who keeps dart frogs and would help. I'd suggest also getting a bag of their fruit fly medium so you can raise your own. It's pretty easy, and I can give you some tips if/when you get to that. I think they sell supplements too, so might have the Rep-Cal. If your gecko gets UVB from natural direct sunshine (not through a window) you don't need the kind with D3 in it. Elizabeth suggested Sunshine Mealworms, and I agree. They're in Silverton Oregon. I think they are not taking new mealworm customers for a while, but you might tell them that Elizabeth and I recommended them and maybe that will make a difference ;-) You mentioned that you thought the old skin on Li'i's tail is getting tighter. She is probably just growing on your hand-fed gourmet diet! Geckos store fat in their tails. An idea on removing the skin: See if you can get it to split by using 2 pairs of tweezers and gently pulling on the edge closest to her body. This probably would need a second person holding the gecko. Aloha is about 10 miles west of Portland, between Beaverton and Hillsboro. It's not exactly a town -- everything runs together here now and it never was much of a town. But I like the name too ;-D My geckos would love some of those big fruit flies! I'm sure you can't ship them to Oregon though, LOL! Best of luck! Melody Gecko wrote: Aloha, Melody Flightless fruit flies!! Wouldn't she like that!! I will have to google for them and see if I can get them into Hawaii! I have to have an import license to have mealworms shipped to me to feed the geckos! Right now, we are having problems finding someone to ship quickly enough in the summer, even with the license. We need a good supplier that ships from somewhere near the west coast as all the places I know are mid or east coast. A mealworm import license is $50 a year for unlimited shipments -- and they all go through Honolulu for inspection! If flightless fruit flies are on the list, they would cost the same. Hawaii actually has a great endemic fruit fly that is
