Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-livingood-woundy-p4p-experiences-07

2009-05-28 Thread Livingood, Jason
Thanks for the detailed review, Spencer!  I'll set aside some time next week
to review your comments and then make necessary changes as needed in the
draft to address this in a -08 version.

Regards
Jason


On 5/27/09 9:55 PM, Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org wrote:

 I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for
 this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see
 http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve
 these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive.
 
 Document: draft-livingood-woundy-p4p-experiences-07
 Reviewer: Spencer Dawkins
 Review Date: 2009-05-27
 IETF LC End Date: 2009-06-16
 IESG Telechat date: (not known)
 
 Summary: This document is nearly ready for publication as an Informational
 RFC. I did identify some minor issues (listed below) that should be
 considered as this document moves forward in the approval process.
 
 I also identified some nits, which aren't actually part of the Gen-ART
 review but are included for the convenience of the editor.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Spencer
 
 1.  Requirements Language
 
The key words MUST, MUST NOT, REQUIRED, SHALL, SHALL NOT,
SHOULD, SHOULD NOT, RECOMMENDED, MAY, and OPTIONAL in this
document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119].
 
 Spencer (nit): idnits says no 2119 keywords in the document, so this section
 can be deleted (along with the [rfc2119] reference.
 
 2.  Introduction
 
Comcast is a large broadband ISP, based in the U.S., serving the
 
 Spencer (nit): 
 http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc-style-guide/abbrev.expansion.txt doesn't list
 ISP as an abbreviation that isn't expanded (please expand on first use).
 
majority of its customers via cable modem technology.  A trial was
conducted in July 2008 with Pando Networks, Yale, and several ISP
members of the P4P Working Group, which is part of the Distributed
Computing Industry Association (DCIA).  Comcast is a member of the
DCIA's P4P Working Group, whose mission is to work with Internet
service providers (ISPs), peer-to-peer (P2P) companies, and
technology researchers to develop P4P mechanisms, such as so-called
iTrackers (hereafter P4P iTrackers), that accelerate distribution
of content and optimize utilization of ISP network resources.  P4P
iTrackers theoretically allow P2P networks to optimize traffic within
each ISP, reducing the volume of data traversing the ISP's
infrastructure and creating a more manageable flow of data.  P4P
iTrackers can also accelerate P2P downloads for end users.
 
The P4P iTracker trial was conducted, in cooperation with Pando,
Yale, and three other P4P member ISPs, from July 2 to July 17, 2008.
This was the first P4P iTracker trial over a cable broadband network.
The trial used a Pando P2P client, and Pando distributed a special 21
MB licensed video file in order to measure the effectiveness of P4P
 
 Spencer (nit): suggest s/21 MB/21-MB/ for clarity
 
iTrackers.  A primary objective of the trial was to measure the
effects that increasing the localization of P2P swarms would have on
 
 Spencer (minor): it would be helpful to add a definition for swarm -
 everyone kind of knows what you're talking about, but it's not even defined
 in Wikipedia :-) (per
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_(disambiguation))...
 
P2P uploads, P2P downloads, and ISP networks, in comparison to normal
P2P activity.
 
 
 3.  High-Level Details
 
There were five different swarms for the content used in the trial.
The first was a random P2P swarm, as a control group.  The second,
third, and fourth used different P4P iTrackers: Generic, Coarse
Grained, and Fine Grained, all of which are described in Section 4.
The fifth was a proprietary Pando mechanism.  (The results of the
fifth swarm, while very good, are not included here since our focus
 
 Spencer (minor): while very good is slightly more marketing-speak than I
 was comfortable with... the ADs can ignore this comment, of course.
 
is on open standards and a mechanism which may be leveraged for the
benefit of the entire community of P2P clients.)  Comcast deployed a
P4P iTracker server in its production network to support this trial,
and configured multiple iTracker files to provide varying levels of
localization to clients.
 
 4.1.  P4P Fine Grain
 
The Fine Grain topology was the first and most complex P4P iTracker
that we built for this trial.  It was a detailed mapping of Comcast
backbone-connected network Autonomous System Numbers (ASN) to IP
Aggregates which were weighted based on priority and distance from
each other.  Included in this design was a prioritization of all Peer
and Internet transit connected ASNs to the Comcast backbone to ensure
that P4P traffic would prefer settlement free and lower cost networks
first, and then more expensive transit links. 

Re: [Gen-art] review of draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt

2009-05-28 Thread Ross Callon
Last call is over. Please respin (I see the most recent version dated
January 2009). 

thanks, Ross

-Original Message-
From: JP Vasseur [mailto:jvass...@cisco.com] 
Sent: 28 April 2009 01:37
To: Ross Callon
Cc: Francis Dupont; General Area Review Team; JP Vasseur; Jean-Louis Le
Roux; y.ikej...@ntt.com
Subject: Re: review of draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt

Ah yes, I thought the IETF LC was ended. Will respin right after that.

Thanks Ross.

JP.


On Apr 25, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Ross Callon wrote:

 You need to wait for the IETF last call to end before respinning. Once
 the IETF last call ends, then yes please respin.

 Thanks, Ross

 -Original Message-
 From: JP Vasseur [mailto:jvass...@cisco.com]
 Sent: 24 April 2009 02:05
 To: Francis Dupont; Ross Callon
 Cc: General Area Review Team; JP Vasseur; Jean-Louis Le Roux;
 y.ikej...@ntt.com
 Subject: Re: review of draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt

 Many Thanks Francis.

 Ross, do you want me to address those comments and respin ?

 Thanks.

 JP.

 On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Francis Dupont wrote:

 I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART)
 reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see
 http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).

 Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
 you may receive.

 Document: draft-ietf-pce-monitoring-04.txt
 Reviewer: Francis Dupont
 Review Date: 2009-04-22
 IETF LC End Date: 2009-04-27
 IESG Telechat date: unknown

 Summary: Not Ready

 Major issues: none but some minor issues which should need another
 cycle.

 Minor issues:
 - 1 page 5: as the PCReq/PCReq seem to come from nowhere in 3.1  
 page 8
 IMHO it is the right place to introduce them, for instance (it should
 be hard to be simpler) add after the first path computation request
 the comment (PCReq message). Perhaps this is not the right thing
 but it should be clear from the introduction the document both
 specifies
 new messages and new objects, and these new objects can be used in
 PCReq/PCRep too.

 - 4.1 page 12: incompatible requirement There SHOULD NOT be more
 than one instance of the MONITORING object with PCRep syntax
 (response-list)

 - 4.1 page 13: even if MONITORING object has no optional TLV
 currently defined, the format of these TLVs must be specified.
 I propose the PCEP generic TLV format, RFC 5440 7.1.

 - 4.3 page 16: the variance of time is a squared time. I propose to
 switch to standard deviation (ecart type in French, the square root
 of the variance)

 - 8.6 page 23: CONGESTION object has no defined flag.
 (this is not editorial because of IANA review/processing)

 Nits/editorial comments:
 - Abstract page 2 is in one block, I suggest to insert a line break
 before In PCE-based

 - Requirements Language page 2 should be moved in the terminology
 section

 - ToC page 3 / 8.3 page 21: New Error-Type and Error-Values -
 New Error-Values

 - ToC page 3 and 10 page 23: Acknowledgements - Acknowledgments

 - 1 page 4: IGP - Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP)

 - 1 page 4: troubeshooting - troubleshooting

 - 1 page 4: more than one PCE is - are?

 - 1 page 4: BRPC - Backward Recursive PCE-based Computation (BRPC)

 - 1 page 5: bolean - boolean

 - 1 page 5: By In band - By in band

 - 1 page 5 and many other places: e.g. - e.g.,

 - 3 page 6: PCEMonReq - PCMonReq

 - 3 page 6: too many in this document (wording)

 - 3.1 page 8: insert a line break between:
 svec-list::=SVEC[svec-list]
 request-list::=request[request-list]

 - 3.1 page 8: Section 4.2.) - Section 4.2)

 - 3.1 page 8: charaterize - characterize

 - 3.1 page 9: PCMonreq - PCMonReq

 - 3.2 page 11: PROC-TIME and CONGESTION are defined further (8.
 [56]).
 where NO-PATH is defined?

 - 4.1 page 13: choose between Monitoring-id-number and monitoring-id-
 number

 - 4.1 page 13: a wrap back to one is unclear, 0x + 1 == 0,
 not 1.
 If the value zero is reserved this should be more explicit.

 - 4.3 page 15 1): Min, Average, Max and Variance - minimum, maximum,
 average and variance

 - 4.2 page 15 2): Procesing-time - Processing-time

 - 4.4 page 17: currently defined: - currently defined.

 - 6 page 18: value=Reception of an unacceptable number of unknown
 PCEP message. - value=5 Reception of an unacceptable number of
 unrecognized PCEP message.
 (i.e., put the reason value and correct meaning with a closing ,
  BTW there are two occurrences to fix)

 - 6 page 19: in the next hop PCE: such next-hop choose between
 next-hop and next hop (I prefer the second).

 - 6 page 19: extra Upon receiving a PCMonRep message

 - 6 page 19: carrries - carries

 - 6 page 19: Multi-destination - multi-destination

 - 8.2 page 20 (last line): are defined in this document. -
 are defined in this document:

 - 8.3 page 21: as it doesn't define new error-type(s) I propose:
 New Error-Type and Error-Values - New Error-Values

 - 8.3 page 21: has been created - was created?

 - 9 page 23: denail - denial

 - 

[Gen-art] A *new* batch of IETF LC reviews - 28 May 2009

2009-05-28 Thread Mary Barnes
Hi all,
 
Here's the link to the new LC assignments for this week: 
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/reviewers-090528-lc.html 

The assignments are captured in the spreadsheets: 
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/gen-art.html 
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/gen-art-by-reviewer.html 

The standard template is included below. 
Thanks, 
Mary. 

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[Gen-art] Assignments for June 4, 2009 Telechat

2009-05-28 Thread Mary Barnes
Hi all,

Here's the link to the summary of assignments for the June 4, 2009
telechat:
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/reviewers-090604.html

With the updated spreadsheets:
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/gen-art.html
http://www.softarmor.com/rai/temp-gen-art/gen-art-by-reviewer.html

For your convenience, the review boilerplate template is included below.

Note that reviews should ideally be posted to the gen-art mailing list
by COB on Tuesday:
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/review-guidelines.html


Mary.

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