Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Sarah Stierch 
http://www.linuxchix.org/

I suppose it sounds a bit more badass with Linux because..well..the x's and
they have an awesome Tank Girl inspired mascot.

We just have Wikipe-tan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan

:( "The personification of Wikipedia"

Turns out there is a Commons-tan also, who looks more like Strawberry
Shortcake meets "Raspberry Beret" by Prince:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Commons-tan.png


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Shortcake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Beret


-Sarah


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:

> My older brother is a Linux nerd, but I haven't heard of the LinuxChix
> movement.
>
> From,
> Emily
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Nicole Willson <
> artisticaltru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some of your probably already know this but the term "chix" references the
>> LinuxChix movement. But if it's spoken and not written, it could very easily
>> come off as 70s throwback.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years.
>>>
>>> From,
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
>>>
 On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch <
 sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote:
 > Hi everyone,
 >
 > I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments
 about the
 > term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems
 other
 > women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old
 school
 > and not the most contemporary.
 >
 > I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.
 I've
 > been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I
 know
 > that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to
 trying to
 > be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of
 Wikimedia"
 > but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
 >
 > I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there
 has
 > been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term
 for
 > the sake of contemporary thinking.
 >
 > But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest
 name
 > ever and should be kept.
 >
 > Thoughts?

 If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which
 has a nice ring to it..

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Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Emily Monroe 
My older brother is a Linux nerd, but I haven't heard of the LinuxChix
movement.

From,
Emily


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Nicole Willson
wrote:

> Some of your probably already know this but the term "chix" references the
> LinuxChix movement. But if it's spoken and not written, it could very easily
> come off as 70s throwback.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:
>
>> I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years.
>>
>> From,
>> Emily
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about
>>> the
>>> > term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems
>>> other
>>> > women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old
>>> school
>>> > and not the most contemporary.
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.
>>> I've
>>> > been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
>>> > that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to
>>> trying to
>>> > be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of
>>> Wikimedia"
>>> > but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
>>> >
>>> > I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there
>>> has
>>> > been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term
>>> for
>>> > the sake of contemporary thinking.
>>> >
>>> > But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest
>>> name
>>> > ever and should be kept.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>>
>>> If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which
>>> has a nice ring to it..
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Vandenberg
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Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Nicole Willson 
Some of your probably already know this but the term "chix" references the
LinuxChix movement. But if it's spoken and not written, it could very easily
come off as 70s throwback.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:

> I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years.
>
> From,
> Emily
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about
>> the
>> > term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems
>> other
>> > women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old
>> school
>> > and not the most contemporary.
>> >
>> > I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.
>> I've
>> > been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
>> > that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to
>> trying to
>> > be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of
>> Wikimedia"
>> > but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
>> >
>> > I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there
>> has
>> > been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term
>> for
>> > the sake of contemporary thinking.
>> >
>> > But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest
>> name
>> > ever and should be kept.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>>
>> If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which
>> has a nice ring to it..
>>
>> --
>> John Vandenberg
>>
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Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Emily Monroe 
I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years.

From,
Emily


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch 
> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about
> the
> > term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems
> other
> > women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school
> > and not the most contemporary.
> >
> > I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.
> I've
> > been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
> > that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying
> to
> > be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of
> Wikimedia"
> > but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
> >
> > I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there
> has
> > been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term
> for
> > the sake of contemporary thinking.
> >
> > But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name
> > ever and should be kept.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which
> has a nice ring to it..
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Nudity vs Islam in Western Europe

2011-09-26 Thread Ryan Kaldari 
Just wanted to say that I didn't take any offense from Michael's 
comments. I was probably a bit out of line in my characterization of 
Christianity. I was just trying to point out that any religion, when 
taken literally, can be problematic. There were actually many books 
published during the American Civil War about how the Bible endorsed 
slavery. They make a convincing argument if you accept all of their 
Bible quotes taken out of context.

The part about women being subservient is actually quite pervasive in 
the bible, both old and new testament. See:
1 Peter 3:1-6
1 Timothy 2:11-14
Colossians 3:18
Ephesians 5:22-23
1 Corinthians 14:33-35
1 Corinthians 11:3-10
Isaiah 19:16
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
Genesis 3:16
Genesis 2:18
This is certainly not a novel interpretation. Indeed it seems very 
difficult to argue that the Bible does not consider women subservient to 
men.

The part about beards is Old Testament and only taken seriously by 
Orthodox Christians, Amish, Mennonites, etc.

The part about putting adulterers to death is also Old Testament and 
obviously not taken seriously by most Christians, although John Calvin 
did argue that the Bible justified the death penalty for adultery (as 
have other Christians historically).

All that said, I am not trying to imply that modern Christianity is an 
oppressive religion. I'm just saying that historically, it has a few 
skeletons in its closet and it went through some serious growing pains, 
as is Islam.

Ryan Kaldari

On 9/23/11 7:00 PM, Michael J. Lowrey wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Emily Monroe  wrote:
>> Michael Lowry, what you just said was said was sarcastic and potentially
>> uncivil.
> So Ryan and Carol can lie about MY religion, and I'M the one accused
> of incivility?
>

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Re: [Gendergap] wiki-women-empowerement

2011-09-26 Thread Natalia 
As one of the organizers of the event I will do my best to find
someone who will provide english subtitules for the recording
Lantuszka's lecture.

Her presentations is definitely worth sharing with a wider
international audience :-)
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Re: [Gendergap] wiki-women-empowerement

2011-09-26 Thread Sarah Stierch 
Wonderful to hear about your work Lantuszka. I look forward to hearing more
about it - do you have any on-Wiki materials related to results, images,
reports? I'd love to share it with folks.

=)

Sarah

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Lantuszka .  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Last weekend we had celebrated 10th anniversary of polish Wikipedia.
> Definitly successful event gathered lot of Wikipedians, media attention as
> well as general audience.
> just to mention that among several very interesting subjects i got a chance
> to present also the issue of women and Wikipedia.
> the lecture was called "female face of Wikipedia" and was to sum up the
> discussions that started after February 2011 interview that Sue Gardner has
> given mentioning the gender gap problem.
> In the presentation i had briefed on many initiatives undertaken as
> immediate and later reaction to the interview (start of this mailing list,
> many local projects and workshops to empower women to become Wikieditors),
> underlined the question why it is important and what added values it brings
> as well as the question on if there is any substantial difference in the
> quality of article edited by woman or man (IMHO non what matters is the
> quality of work not really what gender is the author).
> the lecture - as all of that conference - has been shoutcasted online and
> video recorded and later the videos would be available online on free
> licences. The language of lecture was Polish. Not sure if the video would
> have subtitles in english - most probably not.
>
> for the upcoming 8th March we're planning again workshops for women (in
> several cities in Poland) on wiki-editing and wiki-values.
>
> shall you have any questions, comments about the lecture or would like to
> share your experience (good practices, weak points, suggestions for
> improvement) on workshops or other ideas especially for 8th March, you shall
> not hesitate to write and are more then welcome to share your experience.
>
> bests,
> Lantuszka
>
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Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread John Vandenberg 
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about the
> term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems other
> women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school
> and not the most contemporary.
>
> I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else. I've
> been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
> that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying to
> be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of Wikimedia"
> but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
>
> I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there has
> been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term for
> the sake of contemporary thinking.
>
> But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name
> ever and should be kept.
>
> Thoughts?

If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which
has a nice ring to it..

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Re: [Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Orsolya Gyenes 
I've been using the term "wikiwoman" for years now, and it was fine in the
Hungarian Community.
*~Orsolya*


2011/9/26 Sarah Stierch 

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about the
> term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems other
> women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school
> and not the most contemporary.
>
> I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else. I've
> been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
> that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying to
> be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of Wikimedia"
> but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"
>
> I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there has
> been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term for
> the sake of contemporary thinking.
>
> But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name
> ever and should be kept.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Sarah
>
>
>
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[Gendergap] WikiChix

2011-09-26 Thread Sarah Stierch 
Hi everyone,

I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about the
term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems other
women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school
and not the most contemporary.

I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else. I've
been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know
that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying to
be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of Wikimedia"
but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?"

I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there has
been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term for
the sake of contemporary thinking.

But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name
ever and should be kept.

Thoughts?

-Sarah



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[Gendergap] wiki-women-empowerement

2011-09-26 Thread Lantuszka . 
Dear all,

Last weekend we had celebrated 10th anniversary of polish Wikipedia.
Definitly successful event gathered lot of Wikipedians, media attention as
well as general audience.
just to mention that among several very interesting subjects i got a chance
to present also the issue of women and Wikipedia.
the lecture was called "female face of Wikipedia" and was to sum up the
discussions that started after February 2011 interview that Sue Gardner has
given mentioning the gender gap problem.
In the presentation i had briefed on many initiatives undertaken as
immediate and later reaction to the interview (start of this mailing list,
many local projects and workshops to empower women to become Wikieditors),
underlined the question why it is important and what added values it brings
as well as the question on if there is any substantial difference in the
quality of article edited by woman or man (IMHO non what matters is the
quality of work not really what gender is the author).
the lecture - as all of that conference - has been shoutcasted online and
video recorded and later the videos would be available online on free
licences. The language of lecture was Polish. Not sure if the video would
have subtitles in english - most probably not.

for the upcoming 8th March we're planning again workshops for women (in
several cities in Poland) on wiki-editing and wiki-values.

shall you have any questions, comments about the lecture or would like to
share your experience (good practices, weak points, suggestions for
improvement) on workshops or other ideas especially for 8th March, you shall
not hesitate to write and are more then welcome to share your experience.

bests,
Lantuszka
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