Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-01 Thread Pete Forsyth
It appears that the award has had its own web presence independent of the
State Department since March 2016:
http://web.archive.org/web/20160304031707/http://www.awiu.org/international-women-of-courage-celebrations/about-iwoc-celebration/

Perhaps in inquiry to the AIWU board of directors or personnel could
clarify the connection with the State Department, and unearth any
information that has been lost from the State Department web site?

-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ryan Kaldari 
wrote:

> It looks like the main page for the International Women of Courage Award
> has been moved to https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/iwoc/index.htm.
> Unfortunately, it seems to no longer have any actual information.
>
> I've never heard of a requirement for the U.S. government to archive all
> of its web pages, nor have I ever seen any official archives of federal
> government sites other than whitehouse.gov (which is archived by the
> National Archives as part of the official Presidential Record). This seems
> like a dubious claim to me, but I would be very happy to be wrong (as such
> archives would be incredibly useful to Wikipedia).
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Risker  wrote:
>
>> Please bear in mind that many US government websites are routinely
>> rebuilt at the time of a transition of the presidency and/or cabinet level
>> change.  This is not new or unusual, although the last time there was a
>> transition was 8 years ago and the websites weren't nearly as built-up.
>> They are, however, required, to archive all pages, so they should be
>> somewhere - not necessarily easy to find, but somewhere within the US
>> government sites.
>>
>>
>>
>> Risker/Anne
>>
>> (Who lives in Canada, which does not have the same applicable legislation
>> as exists in the US to require the federal government to retain
>> information)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 February 2017 at 12:31, J Hayes  wrote:
>>
>>> here is the archive .is page
>>> https://archive.is/1XJm
>>> internet archive not working
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>>>
 The U.S. government website for the International Women of Courage
 Award is down. There are probably quite a few articles that link to this
 page, as it helps establish notability for many women in the Global South.

 The award was started by Condoleezza Rice in 2007 when she served as
 U.S. Secretary of State under Republican president George W. Bush.

 https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/programs/iwoc/


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Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-01 Thread Ryan Kaldari
It looks like the main page for the International Women of Courage Award
has been moved to https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/iwoc/index.htm.
Unfortunately, it seems to no longer have any actual information.

I've never heard of a requirement for the U.S. government to archive all of
its web pages, nor have I ever seen any official archives of federal
government sites other than whitehouse.gov (which is archived by the
National Archives as part of the official Presidential Record). This seems
like a dubious claim to me, but I would be very happy to be wrong (as such
archives would be incredibly useful to Wikipedia).

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Risker  wrote:

> Please bear in mind that many US government websites are routinely rebuilt
> at the time of a transition of the presidency and/or cabinet level change.
> This is not new or unusual, although the last time there was a transition
> was 8 years ago and the websites weren't nearly as built-up.  They are,
> however, required, to archive all pages, so they should be somewhere - not
> necessarily easy to find, but somewhere within the US government sites.
>
>
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> (Who lives in Canada, which does not have the same applicable legislation
> as exists in the US to require the federal government to retain
> information)
>
>
>
> On 1 February 2017 at 12:31, J Hayes  wrote:
>
>> here is the archive .is page
>> https://archive.is/1XJm
>> internet archive not working
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>>
>>> The U.S. government website for the International Women of Courage Award
>>> is down. There are probably quite a few articles that link to this page, as
>>> it helps establish notability for many women in the Global South.
>>>
>>> The award was started by Condoleezza Rice in 2007 when she served as
>>> U.S. Secretary of State under Republican president George W. Bush.
>>>
>>> https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/programs/iwoc/
>>>
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Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-01 Thread Risker
Please bear in mind that many US government websites are routinely rebuilt
at the time of a transition of the presidency and/or cabinet level change.
This is not new or unusual, although the last time there was a transition
was 8 years ago and the websites weren't nearly as built-up.  They are,
however, required, to archive all pages, so they should be somewhere - not
necessarily easy to find, but somewhere within the US government sites.



Risker/Anne

(Who lives in Canada, which does not have the same applicable legislation
as exists in the US to require the federal government to retain
information)



On 1 February 2017 at 12:31, J Hayes  wrote:

> here is the archive .is page
> https://archive.is/1XJm
> internet archive not working
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Neotarf  wrote:
>
>> The U.S. government website for the International Women of Courage Award
>> is down. There are probably quite a few articles that link to this page, as
>> it helps establish notability for many women in the Global South.
>>
>> The award was started by Condoleezza Rice in 2007 when she served as U.S.
>> Secretary of State under Republican president George W. Bush.
>>
>> https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/programs/iwoc/
>>
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Re: [Gendergap] U.S. government website for International Women of Courage Award is down

2017-02-01 Thread J Hayes
here is the archive .is page
https://archive.is/1XJm
internet archive not working

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Neotarf  wrote:

> The U.S. government website for the International Women of Courage Award
> is down. There are probably quite a few articles that link to this page, as
> it helps establish notability for many women in the Global South.
>
> The award was started by Condoleezza Rice in 2007 when she served as U.S.
> Secretary of State under Republican president George W. Bush.
>
> https://www.state.gov/s/gwi/programs/iwoc/
>
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Re: [Gendergap] Women's march speeches repeatedly put up for deletion

2017-02-01 Thread J Hayes
yeah- nominating VOA video for deletion is proof of the cultural bias - so
it goes

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> Advocate for what exactly? There nothing ethically wrong in ensuring
> we establish precedent using an equal sample space rather than cases
> chosen because they are about a Women's march in the news. The most
> common interpretation of that would be advocating for fairness in
> approach.
>
> Fae
>
> On 30 January 2017 at 12:05, JJ Marr  wrote:
> > Two wrongs don't make a right and using this mailing list to advocate for
> > that crosses a line.
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2017 05:11, "Fæ"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Link:
> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_
> requests/File:Activist_Gloria_Steinem_Tells_Women%27s_March_
> Protesters_%27Put_Our_Bodies_Where_Our_Beliefs_Are%27.webm
> >>
> >> I am concerned that amongst the many videos of talks and speeches
> >> where people refer to their notes, it is these recent Women's march
> >> videos that have been targeted to set an unusual precedent and are
> >> being vigorously argued for deletion, along with some parallel
> >> drama-mongering on Jimmy Wales' talk page. Perhaps it would be
> >> healthier to put up an equal number of comparative videos of men
> >> talking at WMF events, using the same arguments about prepared notes
> >> needing to be published before the video can be considered correctly
> >> released; or would that be too pointy?
> >>
> >> Fae
> >> --
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[Gendergap] Fwd: The December 2016 issue of the Wikimedia Research Newsletter is out

2017-02-01 Thread Tilman Bayer
Forwarding, as this issue covered two papers of interest to this list

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The December 2016 issue of the Wikimedia Research Newsletter is out:



https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/26/research-newsletter-december-2016/



https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2016/December



In this issue:



1 Getting more female editors may not increase the ratio of articles about women

2 Theorizing the foundations of the gender gap

3 How old and new astronomy papers are being cited

4 Wikipedia is not a suitable source for election predictions

5 “Black Lives Matter in Wikipedia: Collaboration and collective
memory around online social movements"

6 Briefly

6.1 Conferences and events



*** 20 recent publications were covered or listed in this issue ***



Masssly, Tilman Bayer and Dario Taraborelli



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