Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed -- excellent work, Laura and Bidgee! :) They all looked very pretty on the DYK nomination page with a picture for every one. Big group effort with help from a number of guys in WM-AU including Hawkeye7, Sp33dyphil, and John Vandenberg. (And because my iPhone was suffering a severe case of envy of Bidgee's camera, I now have a camera. If there are any Australian women or Australian guys who want to photograph women, I highly encourage you to take advantage of http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Camera_equipment_program , Wikimedia Australia's camera equipment grant.) At the same time that we did the water polo player, we also took pictures of two female Paralympic swimmers and brought one of their articles to DYK, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Teigan_Van_Roosmalen. (The other already had been there. The athlete had also donated a much higher quality image of herself about three days before. Fun conversation. Ellie Cole uses Wikipedia to find out more about Canberra.) On case studies -- one person who has self-documented extensively on gaining access to public figures for photos is David Shankbone. But he's blogged about tons of things, so it will take a little work to dig through and find the best reflective posts on that subject. Had a conversation about him. As I understand it, he faced some weird goofy pressure from the Commons community because he also does commercial photography. Thus, some people disliked him. Commons can have the weird relationship like Wikipedia does related to people who kind of sort of get paid, but not exactly for what you see. It would be awesome to explore the kinds of techniques various people have used to get this kind of access! A good project for the GLAM portal or other outreach pages. Australian sport on the national level is really helped out by our GLAM project at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/HOPAU . This has been extensively documented in the GLAM newsletter. Coupled with efforts to take every single 2011/2012 Canberra Capital player article to DYK and having taken pictures at a game and this being shared inside the Australian sport community… it makes it much easier for us to ask to get pictures, get access, talk to people about getting permissions for images to be shared or getting permission to take photographs. (I talked to a memorial about photography and images, and could cite the sport situations as relevant in terms of getting institutional investment, fair use inside Australia, how it impacts on their ability to commercialise their pictures, how photography events can work. It builds bridges.) This case though was a lot of people inside Australian Water Polo had heard about the GLAM project and heard about the Capitals work (done close to the time of a a general wiki conference in Canberra)… and yeah. :) Once you get one, connected organisations are easier. Probably works better in places with smaller scale and where people often share the same building. :) I'm hoping we can get the Australian women's national basketball team in May. Not sure if the women's hockey is going to be available to us just because of where they do their training camps. Sadly, only three Australian women's teams qualified for the Olympics. :( Volleyball and soccer did not. :( Sincerely, Laura Hale -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team
Great work Laura and Bidgee! I noticed a problem with the first image page I clicked on. Maybe others have the same problem. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ANicola_Zagame.jpgdiff=67465143oldid=67443407 -- John Vandenberg ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Laura and Bidgee! I noticed a problem with the first image page I clicked on. Maybe others have the same problem. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ANicola_Zagame.jpgdiff=67465143oldid=67443407 Fixed. I think all of them have been fixed anyway. Not sure about the descriptions and if they really should have more as it might be nice to try to take one or two to featured pictured: The people: sports category lacks women. :( I've mentioned it in signpost suggestions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#First_time_for_national_team_picturesand would be awesome to get a mention. :) Bidgee upload the pictures of the Brits. These are pretty awesome too. :D File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_(1).jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_(1).jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg I think the pictures do a good job at showing frustration at a losing game. I really need to learn to use Wikinews to write more about this stuff. Would be great to see more women's topics and Australian topics covered on the project, and more people to get accredited as reporters. :) -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team
Great photos Laura! It's super cool that Bigbee is volunteeering their time and skill to help out with the project. Even cooler that the water polo folks gave you guys such great access. It'd be cool to see some case studies developed on gaining access to subjects. -Sarah On 2/24/12 3:57 PM, Laura Hale wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com mailto:jay...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Laura and Bidgee! I noticed a problem with the first image page I clicked on. Maybe others have the same problem. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ANicola_Zagame.jpgdiff=67465143oldid=67443407 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ANicola_Zagame.jpgdiff=67465143oldid=67443407 Fixed. I think all of them have been fixed anyway. Not sure about the descriptions and if they really should have more as it might be nice to try to take one or two to featured pictured: The people: sports category lacks women. :( I've mentioned it in signpost suggestions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#First_time_for_national_team_pictures and would be awesome to get a mention. :) Bidgee upload the pictures of the Brits. These are pretty awesome too. :D File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_(1).jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_%281%29.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg I think the pictures do a good job at showing frustration at a losing game. I really need to learn to use Wikinews to write more about this stuff. Would be great to see more women's topics and Australian topics covered on the project, and more people to get accredited as reporters. :) -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com http://ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- *Sarah Stierch* */Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow/* Support the sharing of free knowledge around the world: donate today https://donate.wikimedia.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] [wmau:members] Australian women's national water polo team
Agreed -- excellent work, Laura and Bidgee! On case studies -- one person who has self-documented extensively on gaining access to public figures for photos is David Shankbone. But he's blogged about tons of things, so it will take a little work to dig through and find the best reflective posts on that subject. Here's a 2009 article about his work: http://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php?page=all His blog is at http://shankbone.org It would be awesome to explore the kinds of techniques various people have used to get this kind of access! A good project for the GLAM portal or other outreach pages. -Pete On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Great photos Laura! It's super cool that Bigbee is volunteeering their time and skill to help out with the project. Even cooler that the water polo folks gave you guys such great access. It'd be cool to see some case studies developed on gaining access to subjects. -Sarah On 2/24/12 3:57 PM, Laura Hale wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Laura and Bidgee! I noticed a problem with the first image page I clicked on. Maybe others have the same problem. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ANicola_Zagame.jpgdiff=67465143oldid=67443407 Fixed. I think all of them have been fixed anyway. Not sure about the descriptions and if they really should have more as it might be nice to try to take one or two to featured pictured: The people: sports category lacks women. :( I've mentioned it in signpost suggestions at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#First_time_for_national_team_picturesand would be awesome to get a mention. :) Bidgee upload the pictures of the Brits. These are pretty awesome too. :D File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_(1).jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre_%281%29.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_player_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_and_coach_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Great_Britain_water_polo_players_at_AIS_Aquatic_Centre.jpg I think the pictures do a good job at showing frustration at a losing game. I really need to learn to use Wikinews to write more about this stuff. Would be great to see more women's topics and Australian topics covered on the project, and more people to get accredited as reporters. :) -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com ___ Gendergap mailing listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- *Sarah Stierch* *Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow* Support the sharing of free knowledge around the world: donate todayhttps://donate.wikimedia.org/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
