Re: [brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Shannon Roddy]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Paul Rushing  wrote:

> email is constant cat and mouse game.  It’s the next unknown attack that’s
> always the concern, the one we don’t know to block yet.  Have to try and
> push as much egress filtering / content scanning for data loss prevention
> as feasible.
>


AV is dead, long live AV!

Have you ever submitted a sample of malware to virustotal that has gotten
through all the AV & SPAM filters?  Usually, if it makes it through
relatively good defenses, it takes days for it to be detected by most of
the AV vendors.

Heuristics are more important than file matches nowadays.  Companies like
fireEye make their living on opening up samples in a sandbox, then alerting
after the fact that something got through.
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Re: [brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Karthik Poobal]

Earlier this month BitTorrent client Transmission got compromised with a a
crypto locker that infected macs. It waited 3 days before connecting to C&C
servers and to encrypt user files. That time really could be random and it
may be difficult to figure out when the system got infected and how far to
go back with your backups.

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On Mar 29, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Edmund Cramp  wrote:

But, why are you saying a good backup schedule isn’t helping your defense?
If you can restore to a known pre-incident state, at least you’ve limited
your loss.  At least losing a few hours of data from the backup delta is
better than losing months.



My current backup strategy is this:



1.   Concurrent backup maintained offsite

2.   Nightly backup on site.

3.   Once per day backup pulled via rsync to an NAS that’s read-only to
the network.  This drive maintains seven days of system data that nothing
on the network can change.



I’m seeing reports that the latest crypto malware has been seen encrypting
disks and decrypting them on the fly for a while before triggering - if
this waits 7 days to trigger then my backup scheme is DOA because the rsync
NAS will have pulled corrupted copies.



I’m thinking that it’s time to look at tape backups again.



Regards,

Edmund Cramp

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Re: [brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Jeffrey Lee]

Ya'll start talking about spam, and I get my first spam message in ages on
Gmail with the subject: LIVEDATINGCLUB

I certainly don't miss the days of keeping up with SpamAssassin
configurations and blacklists.

- Jeff

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Edmund Cramp  wrote:

> But, why are you saying a good backup schedule isn’t helping your
> defense?  If you can restore to a known pre-incident state, at least you’ve
> limited your loss.  At least losing a few hours of data from the backup
> delta is better than losing months.
>
>
>
> My current backup strategy is this:
>
>
>
> 1.   Concurrent backup maintained offsite
>
> 2.   Nightly backup on site.
>
> 3.   Once per day backup pulled via rsync to an NAS that’s read-only
> to the network.  This drive maintains seven days of system data that
> nothing on the network can change.
>
>
>
> I’m seeing reports that the latest crypto malware has been seen encrypting
> disks and decrypting them on the fly for a while before triggering - if
> this waits 7 days to trigger then my backup scheme is DOA because the rsync
> NAS will have pulled corrupted copies.
>
>
>
> I’m thinking that it’s time to look at tape backups again.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Edmund Cramp
>
> --
>
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> Ken Olson, President, Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977
>
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Re: [brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Edmund Cramp]

But, why are you saying a good backup schedule isn’t helping your defense?  If 
you can restore to a known pre-incident state, at least you’ve limited your 
loss.  At least losing a few hours of data from the backup delta is better than 
losing months. 
 
My current backup strategy is this:
 
1.   Concurrent backup maintained offsite
2.   Nightly backup on site.
3.   Once per day backup pulled via rsync to an NAS that’s read-only to the 
network.  This drive maintains seven days of system data that nothing on the 
network can change.
 
I’m seeing reports that the latest crypto malware has been seen encrypting 
disks and decrypting them on the fly for a while before triggering - if this 
waits 7 days to trigger then my backup scheme is DOA because the rsync NAS will 
have pulled corrupted copies.
 
I’m thinking that it’s time to look at tape backups again.
 
Regards,
Edmund Cramp
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Olson, President, Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977
 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Karthik Poobal]

> Nah, we considered it though haha. We temporarily started stripping zip and 
> rar attachments.  Google wasn't catching quite a few of them. 


Haha.. Yeah I have considered geoblocking but it’s really useless anyway. Most 
of the infected payloads I see are either word or excel files. 



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> On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Karthik Poobal  > wrote:
>  
> Are you serious? Don’t have any of your users collaborating with folks in 
> China? 
> 
> Yeah I have noticed that there is an uptick of spam/infected messages from 
> China in the last month or so. Google Apps is doing a damn good job of 
> filtering these messages out of us. 
> 
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Paul Rushing]

email is constant cat and mouse game.  It’s the next unknown attack that’s 
always the concern, the one we don’t know to block yet.  Have to try and push 
as much egress filtering / content scanning for data loss prevention as 
feasible.   

But, why are you saying a good backup schedule isn’t helping your defense?  If 
you can restore to a known pre-incident state, at least you’ve limited your 
loss.  At least losing a few hours of data from the backup delta is better than 
losing months. 


> On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Edmund Cramp  wrote:
> 
> We’re commercial with customers and agents worldwide (including in China) so 
> geo-blocking is not an option although since we run our own mail server it 
> would be easy to do.  I find that these attacks come and go - in general we 
> see a few crypto attempts most days and some spearfishing every now and then 
> - what got my attention today was that these .js attachments have started 
> coming in at a very much higher rate than normal - the .doc and .exe 
> attachment rates haven’t changed.
>  
> Before I started blocking *.js at the mail-server about 6 months ago the AV 
> software was consistently letting them through - and some of the emails with 
> these have looked very realistic, QuickBooks credit card settlements and 
> unpaid invoices.  People are going to open these.
>  
> I’m rethinking by backup strategies - real-time and daily backups are no 
> defense against these if they get through.
>  
> Regards,
> Edmund Cramp
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> of art. - Oscar Wilde
>  
>  
> From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Ray
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:26 PM
> To: general@brlug.net 
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from 
> a wall?
>  
>  
>  
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Karthik Poobal  > wrote:
>  
> Are you serious? Don’t have any of your users collaborating with folks in 
> China? 
>  
> Yeah I have noticed that there is an uptick of spam/infected messages from 
> China in the last month or so. Google Apps is doing a damn good job of 
> filtering these messages out of us. 
>  
> Nah, we considered it though haha. We temporarily started stripping zip and 
> rar attachments.  Google wasn't catching quite a few of them. 
>  
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[brlug-general] SPAM (was wall mounted windows)

[Edmund Cramp]

We’re commercial with customers and agents worldwide (including in China) so 
geo-blocking is not an option although since we run our own mail server it 
would be easy to do.  I find that these attacks come and go - in general we see 
a few crypto attempts most days and some spearfishing every now and then - what 
got my attention today was that these .js attachments have started coming in at 
a very much higher rate than normal - the .doc and .exe attachment rates 
haven’t changed.
 
Before I started blocking *.js at the mail-server about 6 months ago the AV 
software was consistently letting them through - and some of the emails with 
these have looked very realistic, QuickBooks credit card settlements and unpaid 
invoices.  People are going to open these.
 
I’m rethinking by backup strategies - real-time and daily backups are no 
defense against these if they get through.
 
Regards,
Edmund Cramp
-- 
It is only an auctioneer who can equally and impartially admire all schools of 
art. - Oscar Wilde
 
 
From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 3:26 PM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a 
wall?
 
 
 
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Karthik Poobal  wrote:
 
Are you serious? Don’t have any of your users collaborating with folks in 
China? 
 
Yeah I have noticed that there is an uptick of spam/infected messages from 
China in the last month or so. Google Apps is doing a damn good job of 
filtering these messages out of us. 
 
Nah, we considered it though haha. We temporarily started stripping zip and rar 
attachments.  Google wasn't catching quite a few of them. 
 
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Ray]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Karthik Poobal  wrote:


> Are you serious? Don’t have any of your users collaborating with folks in
> China?
>
> Yeah I have noticed that there is an uptick of spam/infected messages from
> China in the last month or so. Google Apps is doing a damn good job of
> filtering these messages out of us.
>

Nah, we considered it though haha. We temporarily started stripping zip and
rar attachments.  Google wasn't catching quite a few of them.
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Shannon Roddy]

>  Google Apps is doing a damn good job of filtering these messages out of
> us.
>
>
I almost never get spam or malicious attachments to my gmail account.  In
fact, it's kind of a novelty now when I do.
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Karthik Poobal]

> All we did is block China :)

Are you serious? Don’t have any of your users collaborating with folks in 
China? 

Yeah I have noticed that there is an uptick of spam/infected messages from 
China in the last month or so. Google Apps is doing a damn good job of 
filtering these messages out of us.  



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> On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:01 PM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Mark A. Lappin  > wrote:
>  
> 
> That’s not many.  We get about 80 an hour.  (well not quite but we get a few 
> dozen per hour). I’ve had to lock down our attachment policies from our 3rd 
> party filtering the last few weeks. 
> 
> 
> All we did is block China :)
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Ray]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Mark A. Lappin  wrote:

>
>
> That’s not many.  We get about 80 an hour.  (well not quite but we get a
> few dozen per hour). I’ve had to lock down our attachment policies from our
> 3rd party filtering the last few weeks.
>

All we did is block China :)
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Shannon Roddy]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Edmund Cramp  wrote:

>
> I suspect cryptoware - Dustin will probably be looking for people to help
> recover corporate PC’s in a week to two…
>

It's a windows tax... just cough up the bitcoin.
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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Mark A. Lappin]

Off-topic - I’ve been checking the logs on the mail server today and I’m seeing 
 80+ infection attempts since midnight,

That’s not many.  We get about 80 an hour.  (well not quite but we get a few 
dozen per hour). I’ve had to lock down our attachment policies from our 3rd 
party filtering the last few weeks.





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Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

[Edmund Cramp]

I have a friend, but nobody else can see him, he’s lonely so we talk a lot 
because it’s my job to cheer him up
 
Off-topic - I’ve been checking the logs on the mail server today and I’m seeing 
 80+ infection attempts since midnight, each with an attachment containing a 
javascript file (which I kill on site) - a normal week might yield one to two a 
day.  I suspect cryptoware - Dustin will probably be looking for people to help 
recover corporate PC’s in a week to two…
 
Regards,
Edmund Cramp
-- 
(if N fails, try N+1)
 
 
 
From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Keith Stokes
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:06 PM
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wall?
 
I’m a nerd. I don’t have any friends that aren’t computers or aren’t already 
here.
 
On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dustin Puryear  wrote:
 
Hi all-
 
We need some new blood on this list I think to get the LUG activity up.
 
Have your nerd friends join up.
 
http://www.brlug.net/
 
 

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Make sure you get the new model. The first gen sucks

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On Mar 25, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Dustin Puryear  wrote:
Whaat! DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS THING.
 

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Intel ComputeStick

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On Mar 25, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Edmund Cramp  wrote:
Office Depot - 
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/150213/HP-23-r110-All-In-One/ -
 
 
From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:39 AM
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Looking for a KPI dashboard on the wall. Needs to be able to run MS Excel so it 
needs to run Windows… L
 

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[Dustin Puryear]

Hi all-

We need some new blood on this list I think to get the LUG activity up.

Have your nerd friends join up.

http://www.brlug.net/



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Make sure you get the new model. The first gen sucks

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On Mar 25, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Dustin Puryear 
mailto:dpury...@puryear-it.com>> wrote:
Whaat! DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS THING.


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Intel ComputeStick

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On Mar 25, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Edmund Cramp 
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Office Depot - 
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/150213/HP-23-r110-All-In-One/ -


From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:39 AM
To: general@brlug.net
Subject: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a wall?

Looking for a KPI dashboard on the wall. Needs to be able to run MS Excel so it 
needs to run Windows... :(


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[Keith Stokes]

I’m a nerd. I don’t have any friends that aren’t computers or aren’t already 
here.

> On Mar 29, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Dustin Puryear  wrote:
> 
> Hi all- <>
>  
> We need some new blood on this list I think to get the LUG activity up.
>  
> Have your nerd friends join up.
>  
> http://www.brlug.net/ 
>  
>  
> 
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> My direct number: 225-304-6402
> Main: 225-706-8414 | Fax: 800-613-5731 | www.puryear-it.com 
> 
> 
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> Support 
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> From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net] On Behalf Of Bret Esquivel
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:39 AM
> To: general@brlug.net
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from 
> a wall?
>  
> Make sure you get the new model. The first gen sucks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Dustin Puryear  > wrote:
> 
> Whaat! DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS THING.
>  
> 
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> From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Bret Esquivel
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:54 AM
> To: general@brlug.net 
> Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from 
> a wall?
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> Intel ComputeStick
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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Edmund Cramp  > wrote:
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> Office Depot - 
> http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/150213/HP-23-r110-All-In-One/ 
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> From: General [mailto:general-boun...@brlug.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Dustin Puryear
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:39 AM
> To: general@brlug.net 
> Subject: [brlug-general] Anybody have a all-in-1 PC that I can hang from a 
> wall?
>  
> Looking for a KPI dashboard on the wall. Needs to be able to run MS Excel so 
> it needs to run Windows… L
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