[Jgeneral] file options J701 iPhone

2023-11-22 Thread adam dunne
How does one delete and  rename files here? (as displayed by "jd")
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[Jgeneral] Report of the J Wiki Meeting of November 16, 2023

2023-11-22 Thread 'robert therriault' via General

== Report of Meeting 2023-11-16 ==

Present: Art Anger, Ed Gottsman, Raul Miller, and Bob Therriault

Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-11-16

1) Bob had received Ed's footage of his demo and there was a discussion about 
the audio that he had used. It was decided that Bob would use the existing 
audio and Ed would review and then there would be a decision on when to 
publish. Bob might also rerecord the audio if that was Ed's preference. 
https://youtu.be/SLJS84u4eVc 
  
2) Ed changed the category list on the J viewer back to a Qt list instead of 
his previous expandable version. The performance has improved. Raul noted that 
the new version requires that you scroll at the end of the list, whereas it 
used to autoscroll. Ed wants to be able to have SQLlite do line numbers in 
GitHub results because those results tend to be larger.   
  
3) Ed talked about attempting to include information of Skip Cave's Quora 
solutions. Quora seems to be resisting attempts to have Ed crawl the site. This 
is an ongoing investigation. Bob wondered if there might be a place in the J 
wiki for Skip to include some of his solutions. Bob is currently going through 
the essays on the wiki to select ones that might be most appropriate for 
Newcomers. Raul mentioned also that Journal of J could be included 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/JournalOfJ. There are links on the wiki, but 
the content of the Journal of J is not on the wiki. Bob had some reluctance to 
dump their content onto the wiki and Ed said that he would need their 
permission before crawling their site.

4) Ed feels that the J Viewer is ready for prime time and will start by posting 
to the J forums after the demo video is published. Bob suggested that the fact 
that it is in JQt should be noted for those users who access through the 
console. Raul asked that updates for Windows be thoroughly tested before 
release to avoid  extra noise. Bob asked about announcing on the ArrayCast. 
Announcing on the British APL Association is another possibility and might be 
pursued for their next meeting.  

5) Bob tested the new J viewer and ran into a few problems due to the fact that 
he had made local changes to the addon in the process of troubleshooting.  

6) Bob did a quick review of the work that he had been doing on the Newcomers 
page of the wiki. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Newcomers_N 
Additions are the Return to Home navigation link and removal of the Scripts 
category as there were not many scripts that would work for Newcomers. Raul 
suggested using larger font on the titles and Bob agreed. Bob is also going to 
take Developers off of the Home page until it is further developed. 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Home The information would still be 
available through Reference. Ed asked about including the Category's on the 
page that would be more involved but would be accessible for those who wanted 
the more detailed view.  

For access to previous meeting reports 
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development

If you would like to participate in the development of the J wiki please 
contact us on the general forum and we will get you an invitation to the next J 
wiki meeting held on Thursdays at 23:00 (UTC) Next meeting is November 23, 2023.
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[Jgeneral] https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Labs/The_lab_Verb

2023-11-22 Thread Raul Miller
According to the current documentation on labs
   lab ''

should show the lab status.

However, experimentation (in jqt) suggests that it does one of two things:

(*) When not in a lab, it displays the text 'first open a lab'

(*) When in a lab, it brings up the lab selection dialog, which allows
us to select a different lab (or the current lab).

This seems like incorrect behavior. If the purpose is to select a lab,
there's no reason to not provide that functionality when already in a
lab.

If the purpose is to show the user where they are in the current lab,
it does not achieve that.

I think that, hypothetically speaking, it would be great if we could
use the lab verb to navigate within labs or even to navigate across
labs. But that first requires that I be able to understand what I am
doing.

Thanks,

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Re: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread 'Michael Day' via General

Sorry, Raul, I'd forgotten about "chat!"

The site seems to be up and going again.

Thanks,

Mike

On 22/11/2023 14:52, Raul Miller wrote:

This rosettacode thing is probably a chat forum issue rather than a
general forum issue.

That said, rosettacode has migrated to a different hosting service
twice in the last slightly over a year.

Each time, all authentication information was lost (remained
associated with the old host). Meaning that people needed to create
new accounts or recreate their old accounts. (Er... one account per
person, but multiple people...)

To recreate an old account create an account with the same name (if
someone else squatted on the id, create an account with a new name).
To re-associate old posts with your recreated account, there's a
discord link at the top of every page - you can sign in there and ask
an admin to run a script which will associate historic edits with your
newly [re-]created account.

This is not an ideal situation, but rosettacode is a low budget operation.

I hope this helps,



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Re: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread Raul Miller
This rosettacode thing is probably a chat forum issue rather than a
general forum issue.

That said, rosettacode has migrated to a different hosting service
twice in the last slightly over a year.

Each time, all authentication information was lost (remained
associated with the old host). Meaning that people needed to create
new accounts or recreate their old accounts. (Er... one account per
person, but multiple people...)

To recreate an old account create an account with the same name (if
someone else squatted on the id, create an account with a new name).
To re-associate old posts with your recreated account, there's a
discord link at the top of every page - you can sign in there and ask
an admin to run a script which will associate historic edits with your
newly [re-]created account.

This is not an ideal situation, but rosettacode is a low budget operation.

I hope this helps,

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On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:06 AM David Lambert  wrote:
>
> I haven't been able to login since the credential authorization changed
> .. however many years ago that was.
>
> On 11/22/23 07:00, general-requ...@forums.jsoftware.com wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 10:34:33 +
> > From: "'Mike Day' via General"
> > To:gene...@jsoftware.com
> > Subject: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...
> > Message-ID:<2ffa1a7f-2bd3-4620-a2e6-9976fe2a8...@tiscali.co.uk>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > ... some J-ers are active in Rosetta tasks.
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Re: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread David Lambert
I haven't been able to login since the credential authorization changed 
.. however many years ago that was.


On 11/22/23 07:00, general-requ...@forums.jsoftware.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 10:34:33 +
From: "'Mike Day' via General"
To:gene...@jsoftware.com
Subject: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...
Message-ID:<2ffa1a7f-2bd3-4620-a2e6-9976fe2a8...@tiscali.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

... some J-ers are active in Rosetta tasks.

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Re: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread 'Mike Day' via General
Yes, same here.  I was in Pisano Periods at some odd language!

Presumably a site problem, not my set-up,  so thanks for firming up that 
hypothesis,

Mike

Sent from my iPad

> On 22 Nov 2023, at 10:53, Ed Gottsman  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I’m getting the same error.
> 
> It also occurs if you follow the link to a particular problem—it’s not just 
> the homepage.
> 
> https://rosettacode.org/wiki/ADFGVX_cipher#J
> 
> Ed
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:34 AM, 'Mike Day' via General  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ... some J-ers are active in Rosetta tasks.
>> 
>> Anyone else getting this @ Rosettacode.org?
>> "
>> MediaWiki internal error. [line space]
>> Original exception: [552509b697f96f15d6125f69] 2023-11-22 10:17:29: Fatal 
>> exception of type "InvalidArgumentException". [line space]
>> Exception caught inside exception handler. [line space]
>> Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to 
>> show detailed debugging information.
>> "
>> This* occurrs both on the Windows laptop, in Avast Secure Browser & also M/S 
>> Edge,
>> and on this iPad, using Safari.
>> 
>> I've tried googling for "MediaWiki internal error" but found nothing useful. 
>>  
>> 
>> Sorry for this non-J noise,
>> 
>> Mike
>> * the error msgs were identical in the different attempts apart, 
>> unsurprisingly,
>> from the hex codes and time-stamps.
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread Ed Gottsman
Mike,

I’m getting the same error.

It also occurs if you follow the link to a particular problem—it’s not just the 
homepage.

https://rosettacode.org/wiki/ADFGVX_cipher#J

Ed

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 4:34 AM, 'Mike Day' via General  
> wrote:
> 
> ... some J-ers are active in Rosetta tasks.
> 
> Anyone else getting this @ Rosettacode.org?
> "
> MediaWiki internal error. [line space]
> Original exception: [552509b697f96f15d6125f69] 2023-11-22 10:17:29: Fatal 
> exception of type "InvalidArgumentException". [line space]
> Exception caught inside exception handler. [line space]
> Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to 
> show detailed debugging information.
> "
> This* occurrs both on the Windows laptop, in Avast Secure Browser & also M/S 
> Edge, 
> and on this iPad, using Safari.
> 
> I've tried googling for "MediaWiki internal error" but found nothing useful.  
> 
> Sorry for this non-J noise,
> 
> Mike
> * the error msgs were identical in the different attempts apart, 
> unsurprisingly, 
> from the hex codes and time-stamps.
> Sent from my iPad
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[Jgeneral] Not J but Rosetta and ...

2023-11-22 Thread 'Mike Day' via General
... some J-ers are active in Rosetta tasks.

Anyone else getting this @ Rosettacode.org?
"
MediaWiki internal error. [line space]
Original exception: [552509b697f96f15d6125f69] 2023-11-22 10:17:29: Fatal 
exception of type "InvalidArgumentException". [line space]
Exception caught inside exception handler. [line space]
Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show 
detailed debugging information.
"
This* occurrs both on the Windows laptop, in Avast Secure Browser & also M/S 
Edge, 
and on this iPad, using Safari.

I've tried googling for "MediaWiki internal error" but found nothing useful.  

Sorry for this non-J noise,

Mike
* the error msgs were identical in the different attempts apart, 
unsurprisingly, 
from the hex codes and time-stamps.
Sent from my iPad
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