Where to go with Gump?
Hi, since about christmas last year we had reliability problems with the mvn repo proxy. Those problems seem to have gone by now. I've been told Maven Central is using a CDN and some of the nodes had some problems for a while, so this may explain why it started to work again. Anyway. In January I turned off nagging and nobody ever asked why the nag mails stopped. I saw Sebb mention it on Commons' dev list but not because anybody had asked for it. Even the Ant folks (including myself) who used to watch Gump closely didn't recognize the build had been failing for a week or two. So before I re-enable nagging, I wonder whether there really still is any interest in the service Gump provides. And assuming some of the projecs are still interested whether we should prune those projects that aren't. I don't really know for sure but over the past years the major feedback I have received when I tried to engage with projects who's builds were failing was please turn off the nagging - so maybe this colors my perceiption. Any opinions? Cheers Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@gump.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@gump.apache.org
Re: Where to go with Gump?
On May 19, 2013, at 8:22 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: In January I turned off nagging and nobody ever asked why the nag mails stopped. I saw Sebb mention it on Commons' dev list but not because anybody had asked for it. Even the Ant folks (including myself) who used to watch Gump closely didn't recognize the build had been failing for a week or two. So before I re-enable nagging, I wonder whether there really still is any interest in the service Gump provides. And assuming some of the projects are still interested whether we should prune those projects that aren't. I don't really know for sure but over the past years the major feedback I have received when I tried to engage with projects who's builds were failing was please turn off the nagging - so maybe this colors my perception. Yes, this makes it seem that we are performing a thankless task. Perhaps the right question to ask is who here at the Gump PMC is using its facilities to good effect, since we constitute the minimum viable community to keep it going. To answer this question for myself: no, I have no personal or professional use for Gump. In fact, the Mac OS X Gump run has been broken since I upgraded the os on the box, and no one seems to have noticed. I have had no time to investigate what is broken or how to fix it. I think Gump's premise (to doggedly compile the current HEAD against each other of as many projects as we can muster) should be valid, and a failure should be an important canary in the various development communities' respective coal mines. But if it's neither used nor appreciated, why are we still doing it? Other than because it's there, which has mostly been my level of involvement. S. -- san...@temme.net http://www.temme.net/sander/ PGP FP: FC5A 6FC6 2E25 2DFD 8007 EE23 9BB8 63B0 F51B B88A - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@gump.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@gump.apache.org
RE: Where to go with Gump?
Hi Stephan If gump does go fubar then we would need to find an alternate means to supply build.sysclasspath to quote Ant folk In Ant's caseGump set's Ant's build.sysclasspath to only and manages the system classpath the fact that it builds APR (which is a dependency of Apache HTTPD) seems to justify its existence this little snippet from the gump website gives me the willies It is written in Python *which means we would need more than a passing familiarity with makefiles, gcc and ld * 2 years ago i worked at a site which did alot of python programming and the 'object' file was compiled as pyc (python component) i remember python version checking was non-existent and if you had the wrong version of pyc on your path it would take you days before you would be able to find the correct version source find the gcc compiler that would compile it link it to correct pyc format and then stick it on your path Am i the only advocate to converting gump to java? Martin __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. From: bode...@apache.org To: general@gump.apache.org Subject: Where to go with Gump? Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 17:22:43 +0200 Hi, since about christmas last year we had reliability problems with the mvn repo proxy. Those problems seem to have gone by now. I've been told Maven Central is using a CDN and some of the nodes had some problems for a while, so this may explain why it started to work again. Anyway. In January I turned off nagging and nobody ever asked why the nag mails stopped. I saw Sebb mention it on Commons' dev list but not because anybody had asked for it. Even the Ant folks (including myself) who used to watch Gump closely didn't recognize the build had been failing for a week or two. So before I re-enable nagging, I wonder whether there really still is any interest in the service Gump provides. And assuming some of the projecs are still interested whether we should prune those projects that aren't. I don't really know for sure but over the past years the major feedback I have received when I tried to engage with projects who's builds were failing was please turn off the nagging - so maybe this colors my perceiption. Any opinions? Cheers Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@gump.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@gump.apache.org
