Re: Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread Michael Glavassevich
Hi,

Projects like Xerces and Xalan are near the bottom of the food chain. I've 
always thought the projects higher up in the stack got more value from 
Gump. I don't remember the last time we got a notification for a 
legitimate build failure at our level. It was a rather rare occurrence, 
even while e-mail notifications were still being sent out.

Thanks.

Michael Glavassevich
XML Technologies and WAS Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrgla...@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrgla...@apache.org

Stefan Bodewig  wrote on 06/24/2013 09:20:47 AM:

> Dear Community
> 
> Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
> don't know or have by now forgotten about it.
> 
> More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
> emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
> alarms.
> 
> Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
> interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)
> 
> Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
> quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
> Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.
> 
> In case you don't know what this Gump stuff is about:
> 
> Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in
> order to ensure integrity over releases.  Build failures surface API
> discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's
> e-mail notifications hope to promote the conversations between teams to
> resolve those discontinuities.
> 
> When responding to this mail please shorten the CC list as appropriate.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Stefan
> 
>  on behalf of the Gump PMC
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Re: Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread sebb
On 24 June 2013 14:58, Dominik Psenner  wrote:
> Hey Stefan,
>
> Talking for log4net, yes. We use Gump.
>
> See: http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/logging-log4net/logging-log4net/
>
> Bringing up the discussion again. Is it possible to publish nightly builds
> using gump? It has been requested several times and it would be a lot easier
> than setting up/migrate to a second build system.

Sorry, but I don't think that's a good idea.

Snapshot builds should be done using the same dependencies as the
release build would use.

Also publishing builds will increase the Gump run time, which is
already very long.

> Cheers
>
>>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>Von: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:bode...@apache.org]
>>Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juni 2013 15:21
>>An: d...@apr.apache.org; d...@activemq.apache.org; d...@ant.apache.org;
>>d...@camel.apache.org; d...@cocoon.apache.org;
>>d...@commons.apache.org; d...@creadur.apache.org;
>>d...@directory.apache.org; d...@forrest.apache.org; d...@hc.apache.org;
>>d...@httpd.apache.org; d...@jmeter.apache.org;
>>gene...@james.apache.org; d...@lenya.apache.org;
>>gene...@logging.apache.org; d...@lucene.apache.org; d...@poi.apache.org;
>>bridges-...@portals.apache.org; pluto-...@portals.apache.org;
>>d...@tapestry.apache.org; d...@tika.apache.org; d...@tomcat.apache.org;
>>d...@turbine.apache.org; d...@velocity.apache.org; d...@ws.apache.org;
>>gene...@xmlgraphics.apache.org; gene...@xerces.apache.org;
>>d...@xalan.apache.org; d...@pdfbox.apache.org
>>Cc: general@gump.apache.org
>>Betreff: Your Gump Build(s)
>>
>>Dear Community
>>
>>Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
>>don't know or have by now forgotten about it.
>>
>>More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
>>emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
>>alarms.
>>
>>Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
>>interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)
>>
>>Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
>>quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
>>Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.
>>
>>In case you don't know what this Gump stuff is about:
>>
>>Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in
>>order to ensure integrity over releases.  Build failures surface API
>>discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's
>>e-mail notifications hope to promote the conversations between teams to
>>resolve those discontinuities.
>>
>>When responding to this mail please shorten the CC list as appropriate.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Stefan
>>
>> on behalf of the Gump PMC
>
>
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AW: Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread Dominik Psenner
Hey Stefan,

Talking for log4net, yes. We use Gump.

See: http://vmgump.apache.org/gump/public/logging-log4net/logging-log4net/

Bringing up the discussion again. Is it possible to publish nightly builds
using gump? It has been requested several times and it would be a lot easier
than setting up/migrate to a second build system.

Cheers

>-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>Von: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:bode...@apache.org]
>Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juni 2013 15:21
>An: d...@apr.apache.org; d...@activemq.apache.org; d...@ant.apache.org;
>d...@camel.apache.org; d...@cocoon.apache.org;
>d...@commons.apache.org; d...@creadur.apache.org;
>d...@directory.apache.org; d...@forrest.apache.org; d...@hc.apache.org;
>d...@httpd.apache.org; d...@jmeter.apache.org;
>gene...@james.apache.org; d...@lenya.apache.org;
>gene...@logging.apache.org; d...@lucene.apache.org; d...@poi.apache.org;
>bridges-...@portals.apache.org; pluto-...@portals.apache.org;
>d...@tapestry.apache.org; d...@tika.apache.org; d...@tomcat.apache.org;
>d...@turbine.apache.org; d...@velocity.apache.org; d...@ws.apache.org;
>gene...@xmlgraphics.apache.org; gene...@xerces.apache.org;
>d...@xalan.apache.org; d...@pdfbox.apache.org
>Cc: general@gump.apache.org
>Betreff: Your Gump Build(s)
>
>Dear Community
>
>Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
>don't know or have by now forgotten about it.
>
>More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
>emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
>alarms.
>
>Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
>interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)
>
>Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
>quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
>Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.
>
>In case you don't know what this Gump stuff is about:
>
>Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in
>order to ensure integrity over releases.  Build failures surface API
>discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's
>e-mail notifications hope to promote the conversations between teams to
>resolve those discontinuities.
>
>When responding to this mail please shorten the CC list as appropriate.
>
>Cheers
>
>Stefan
>
> on behalf of the Gump PMC


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Re: Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread Nick Burch

On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you 
don't know or have by now forgotten about it.


I think we had noticed it being quieter than normal!

Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still 
interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)


We are. Is there any easy way to check if gump is currently happy with our 
build before we turn emails back on?


Nick

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Re: Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread Mark Thomas
On 24/06/2013 14:20, Stefan Bodewig wrote:
> Dear Community
> 
> Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
> don't know or have by now forgotten about it.
> 
> More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
> emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
> alarms.
> 
> Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
> interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)

Yes please!

As an aside, there were (and probably still are) a number of projects
with dependencies on very old (and no longer supported) Tomcat versions.
It would be good to get those cleaned up. Finding the time to do that
has been on my TODO list for a while.

Mark

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Your Gump Build(s)

2013-06-24 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Dear Community

Apache Gump builds some of your projects and it is quite possible you
don't know or have by now forgotten about it.

More than half a year ago a technical problem has forced us to turn off
emails on build failures as we would have been sending out lots of false
alarms.

Before we re-enable emails we'd like to know whether you are still
interested in the service Gump provides, so please tell us. :-)

Metadata for many projects have been neglected for a long time and it is
quite possible they'd need some love for results to be meaningful.  All
Apache committers have write access to Gump's metadata.

In case you don't know what this Gump stuff is about:

Apache Gump builds the full stack of the latest commits of software in
order to ensure integrity over releases.  Build failures surface API
discontinuities between projects before they impact releases, and Gump's
e-mail notifications hope to promote the conversations between teams to
resolve those discontinuities.

When responding to this mail please shorten the CC list as appropriate.

Cheers

Stefan

 on behalf of the Gump PMC

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