Please don't edit website files on the server machine(s)

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons
Hi gang,

While running 'svn up' inside people.apache.org:/www/incubator.apache.org
I saw this:

  Gprojects/felix.html

which indicates someone edited that file at the live location, or scp-ed
it over, or something similar. Please **don't do anything like that**. The
website management process for the incubator website is quite clearly
documented at

  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html

and by doing things any other way you're making things confusing for everyone
else working on the website, reducing oversight simplicity, and introducing
a potential for merge conflicts showing up on the live site.

thanks!


cheers,


Leo

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[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-7) STATUS file out of date, confusing

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-7?page=all ]
 
Leo Simons closed INCUBATOR-7:
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Resolution: Fixed
 Assign To: Leo Simons

Keeping track of changes to a track record in an issue tracker seems rather 
silly to me! Anyhow, previous comments indicated closing this is ok.

 STATUS file out of date, confusing
 --

  Key: INCUBATOR-7
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-7
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Bug
   Components: policy
  Environment: all
 Reporter: Martin Sebor
 Assignee: Leo Simons


 The STATUS file 
 (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/STATUS) posted to 
 general@incubator.apache.org once a week is out of date and confusing. See 
 this thread for details:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200511.mbox/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 A tentative patch for the problems pointed out in the post above is here:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200511.mbox/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]
 In addition, in his response (below) to this thread, David Crossley 
 identifies two specific issues that should be addressed:
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200511.mbox/[EMAIL 
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[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-1) document copyright changes

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
[ 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-1?page=comments#action_12365207 
] 

Leo Simons commented on INCUBATOR-1:


Our VP legal is working on a detailed policy about this. The incubator can 
incorporate by reference when its finished.

 document copyright changes
 --

  Key: INCUBATOR-1
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-1
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Improvement
   Components: policy
 Reporter: Rodent of Unusual Size


 there is an issue with files contributed to the asf through the
 incubator.  currently it is unclear how the copyright issue
 should be managed; what gets put into the NOTICE file, what goes
 into each individual file, et cetera.  once this is officially
 sorted out, it needs to be added to the incubator documentation --
 along with a notation about whether the changes should be made
 RTC with review by the board, the incubator, or whom.

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[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-2) fixed a few URLs in apollo/hermes/muse STATUS pages

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-2?page=all ]
 
Leo Simons closed INCUBATOR-2:
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Resolution: Won't Fix
 Assign To: Leo Simons

The original patch is two years old.

 fixed a few URLs in apollo/hermes/muse STATUS pages
 ---

  Key: INCUBATOR-2
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-2
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Task
   Components: site
 Reporter: Ian P. Springer
 Assignee: Leo Simons
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: status-pages.patch

 Please apply the attached patch to 
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/.

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[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-4) better docs for new committer procedure

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
[ 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-4?page=comments#action_12365209 
] 

Leo Simons commented on INCUBATOR-4:


Let's not try and have policy discussions within jira...

 better docs for new committer procedure
 ---

  Key: INCUBATOR-4
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-4
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Improvement
   Components: site
 Reporter: Jukka Zitting
 Priority: Minor
  Attachments: newcommiter.r371425.html, newcommitter.patch, 
 newcommitter.r371425.patch

 There doesn't currently seem to be a good consensus on the correct procedure 
 for adding new committers to incubating projects. See the recent mailing list 
 discussion at 
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/5408.

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[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-9) Patch to create docs using coat skin

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-9?page=all ]
 
Leo Simons closed INCUBATOR-9:
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Resolution: Won't Fix
 Assign To: Leo Simons

Incubator has moved to use anakia for website, so patch is no longer relevant 
or apply-able.

 Patch to create docs using coat skin
 

  Key: INCUBATOR-9
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-9
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Improvement
   Components: site
 Reporter: Ross Gardler
 Assignee: Leo Simons
 Priority: Trivial
  Attachments: coat-skin.diff, coat.zip

 The coat skin is a new skin for Apache Forrest designed to mimic the look and 
 feel of http://www.apache.org
 This patch will change the incubator site to be built with the coar skin.
 (NOTE the skin is not currently part of the 0.7-branch of SVN that the 
 Incubator uses, the Forrest devs may not want it to go into the branch as we 
 are only supposed to be putting bug fixes in there. I'll therefore attach a 
 zip of the skin to this issue as well)

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[jira] Closed: (INCUBATOR-8) Incubate Tuscany SOA project

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons (JIRA)
 [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-8?page=all ]
 
Leo Simons closed INCUBATOR-8:
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Resolution: Fixed
 Assign To: Leo Simons

Looking at http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/, it seems this 
stuff has been imported into SVN, so I'm closing this issue.

 Incubate Tuscany SOA project
 

  Key: INCUBATOR-8
  URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-8
  Project: Incubator
 Type: Wish
   Components: subversion
 Reporter: Kenneth Tam
 Assignee: Leo Simons
  Attachments: Tuscany-apache-proposal.tar.gz, tuscany-cpp.tar.gz, 
 tuscany-java-contrib.jar, tuscany_cpp.tar.gz

 Placeholder for materials related to Tuscany SOA incubator proposal.

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[website] Note a bunch of changes

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons
Oi!

For those who don't read the incubator cvs list, I just spent a
few hours on the incubator website. Mostly it was a large amount
of small tweaks, fixes and changes; no (serious) content changes
except for a bit of a rewrite of the text on the front page.

Please do review and change (back) the bits you don't like :-)

David, Geir, et al, thanks again for doing so much of the hard
work; the workflow for this stuff is much more enjoyable now!


cheers,


Leo

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Re: License grant

2006-02-05 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik


On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Manuel Mall wrote:

 On the grant form is says: Licensor owns or has sufficient
 rights to contribute the software source code. In this case we don't
 have a single Licensor but a group of people. How does the form work in
 such a case as it seems to make the assumption that the Licensor is
 either a single person or a single organisation?

In the past this was solved by:

-  All the people in the group all sign the same software grant
and thus together hand over the code. (And assuming that all
authors are still alive and willing to do so).

Logistically this is a bit of a pain; so what was done in the past is
simply to have each person sign his 'own' (but identical) version of the
softwate grant (with the other people listed as well - but with a blank
behind their name) - and then filing the umpteen copies together which are
all idnetical expect that they have a different dotted line signed.

Dw.

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Re: Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project)

2006-02-05 Thread Bill Flood
Hi Matthieu, good to hear from you.  At this point, it might be worth
determining what you think the starting point is for building a strong
implementation.  If it is in the Sybase contribution, we could start with a
new project and integrate any additional value from Agila towards that so
that you don't lose anything.

On 2/4/06, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill,

 I just want to clarify that we (myself and Chris Lim) were not against
 your contribution in Agila at all, we just wanted to make sure that
 the code remained open to others' code contributions as well. We
 wanted to keep the project open and collaborate with you without
 ditching the existing code that might have some good things in it too
 and eventually accept other pieces of work.

 I think we were more in the prospect of building a strong
 implementation by assembling good pieces than integrating one out of
 the box. I apologize if this is the source of the current
 controversy.

 Best regards,

 Matthieu.

 On 2/3/06, Bill Flood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dims, I'll take Cory off the hook since he was acting in good faith on
  behalf of Sybase :-).
 
  As we are learning, there are a variety of ways to work within the
 Apache
  process as long as the community is supportive.  From the Sybase
  perspective, we are interested in working with a vibrant community in a
  meaningful way that balances the needs of the community with that of our
  own.
 
  when we first started thinking about the open source path, we looked at
  Agila and communicated with the developers.  While the Agila developers
 were
  quite helpful, the project was not open to our contribution and our
  assessment was that their existing code line would take substantial work
 to
  bring it up to where we thought we already were.
 
  When we looked at ServiceMix, we found a mature community that not only
  appeared open to a contribution such as ours but one which would help us
  establish a good affinity with the ESB.  The Sybase folks working on
 this
  code line will continue to vigorously support the orchestration
 component
  and provide help in adjacent areas related to SCA.
 
  At this point, we feel comfortable in our contribution to the ServiceMix
  project based on the positive uptake.  Under the rules of meritocracy,
 we
  will work to ensure that the interfaces remain clean and the build
 granular
  enough to be reused and hope to work with you in the future.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Bill
 
 
---Original Message---
From: Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Let's rewind!!! (Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a
 business
  process engine into the ServiceMix project)
Sent: 02 Feb '06 21:12
  
Cory,
  
Could you please get James' help and draft a complete proposal?
  
Please see
 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=safe=offq=incubator+proposal+site%3Awiki.apache.orgbtnG=Search
for a list of proposals, their format and their content.
  
Once the proposal is ready, please post it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Also,
please take a peek at the documentation on the
http://incubator.apache.org/ site especially w.r.t to the incubation
process, what to expect and steps involved.
  
thanks,
dims
  
On 2/2/06, cory  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 BPEL 1.1 is supported.  The code works with Axis 1.3.

 Sybase wants this code to be successful within the community and is
 going to work to support it.

 Cheers,

 -cory

 On 2/2/06, Davanum Srinivas  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Folks,
 
  There is no proposal, there is just a zip, unless someone is a
  clairvoyant, we can't figure out things like. *PLEASE* CC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  - Which specific version of the spec is implemented?
  - Where are the list of known issues?
  - Where is the TODO list?
  - Why is Axis version 1.2 RC1 (and not even Axis 1.2 final even
 if we
  forget that the current version is Axis 1.3)
  - Is there any relation to workflow?
  - Is there no opportunity for interaction with our Existing
  incubation
  project Agila?
  - Are there people from sybase who will be working?
  - Geronimo is becoming an umbrella rapidly and now ServiceMix
 wants
  to
  be one too?
  - Why are people talking as though the code is FINAL
(Quoting greg - there is no need to develope a community
 around
  this code)
(Quoting Rob - If you've looked at the proposed donated code,
 this
 
  BPEL engine is complete, I can't see any sense in combining it
 with
  something else ? )
  - Do *ANY* of the existing servicemix committers know this code
  inside out?
  - If people are not going to touch this contrib code with a barge
  pole
  then why should it be accepted?
 
  thanks,
  dims
 
  On 2/2/06, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   We have received the generous 

Re: [website] Note a bunch of changes

2006-02-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr

All thanks go to David.  At best, I just kicked a pebble down a hill...

geir


Leo Simons wrote:

Oi!

For those who don't read the incubator cvs list, I just spent a
few hours on the incubator website. Mostly it was a large amount
of small tweaks, fixes and changes; no (serious) content changes
except for a bit of a rewrite of the text on the front page.

Please do review and change (back) the bits you don't like :-)

David, Geir, et al, thanks again for doing so much of the hard
work; the workflow for this stuff is much more enjoyable now!


cheers,


Leo

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Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

2006-02-05 Thread Guillaume Nodet
These are the dependencies for building and/or using the whole 
transaction module.
For example, the geronimo-system, geronimo-core and geronimo-kernel and 
geronimo-j2ee dependencies

are mainly needed to build / use the gbeans for the transaction manager.
The jencks project (www.jencks.org) uses the geronimo transaction manager
and geronimo jca connector to provide jca enabled pojos.
If you take a look at the maven pom 
(http://cvs.codehaus.org/viewrep/jencks/jencks/project.xml?r=1.24),
only the geronimo-transaction and geronimo-connector are used (I exclude 
the specs) and none of the aforementioned

dependencies are really required in this context.

True dependencies of a jar really depends on what classes you use in 
the given jar... ;)


Cheers,
Guillaume Nodet

Niclas Hedhman wrote:


On Friday 03 February 2006 23:53, James Strachan wrote:

 


The TM is in a single download-able jar all by itself; so you can
download only what you need. e.g. here's the latest snapshot of just
the transaction manager...
   




IMHO, this is a vast exaggeration that is not entirely fair to make, and would 
like to counter with the dependencies list of the said project (see below)...


Saying that TM is independent and having Geronimo's system, core, j2ee 
and kernel modules listed, is definately catching my attention and asking 
What's your agenda, James? for such misrepresentation. You could have 
high-lighted the true dependencies.



 dependencies
   dependency
 groupIdgeronimo/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-system/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdgeronimo/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-core/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdgeronimo/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdgeronimo/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-kernel/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-jta_1.0.1B_spec/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-ejb_2.1_spec/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdorg.apache.geronimo.specs/groupId
 artifactIdgeronimo-j2ee-connector_1.5_spec/artifactId
 version1.1-SNAPSHOT/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdconcurrent/groupId
 artifactIdconcurrent/artifactId
 version1.3.4/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdcommons-logging/groupId
 artifactIdcommons-logging/artifactId
 version1.0.4/version
 urlhttp://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging//url
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdhowl/groupId
 artifactIdhowl-logger/artifactId
 version0.1.11/version
 urlhttp://forge.objectweb.org/projects/howl/url
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdmx4j/groupId
 artifactIdmx4j/artifactId
 version3.0.1/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdcommons-jelly/groupId
 artifactIdcommons-jelly-tags-velocity/artifactId
 version1.0/version
   /dependency
   dependency
 groupIdvelocity/groupId
 artifactIdvelocity/artifactId
 version1.4/version
   /dependency
 /dependencies


Cheers
Niclas

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RE: Board reporting change for the Incubator

2006-02-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin,

Yes, I discussed this with Greg after the last Board meeting, but we've had
enough to deal with lately, and we'll likely start this in March, which was
alright with Greg (after all, we just did them all in January), so there's
still time.

We'll have to divide up the current projects, and the reports will be due
for new projects each quarter in the same offset as when they begin.

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

2006-02-05 Thread Rob Davies
 The way this 'debate' has continued has been very embarrassing -   
It just makes me wonder why anyone would consider donating code to  
Apache in the future ...



On 5 Feb 2006, at 21:03, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:



James Strachan wrote:
We have received the generous donation of a complete and working  
BPE engine to the ServiceMix project...
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/ 
200602.mbox/% 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
the contributor has offered to donate to Apache  complete the  
necessary software grants  IP clearance and to work with us on  
integrating it into ServiceMix.


I assume we'd all get to see the code under an Apache License  
before deciding to accept.  How else could we vote it in?


[SNIP]

I'll go out on a limb here :


[X] -1 I object because: ...


... I think that a BPEL engine is something that spans many of the  
WS and SOA oriented projects at the ASF, such as ServiceMix,  
Tuscany, Synapse, Agila, etc...


However, that's not my main reason, because honestly, if I was the  
only one that cared about that, I wouldn't ever attempt to stand in  
the way of people wanting to do cool things.


However, this proposal has sent up far too many red flags, has  
alienated too many people, and is causing too much of a bad feeling  
in people, for ServiceMix, for Geronimo and for the ASF in general.


I'd suggest you make a big effort to cool things down and get a  
broad conversation going, over at [EMAIL PROTECTED], drive to  
consensus, and then regroup and try again.


geir






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Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

2006-02-05 Thread Davanum Srinivas
There is a process for incubation, this is what happens when the
process(es) are by-passed. A well written through and inclusive
proposal would sail thru in a jiffy.

thanks,
-- dims

On 2/5/06, Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The way this 'debate' has continued has been very embarrassing -
 It just makes me wonder why anyone would consider donating code to
 Apache in the future ...


 On 5 Feb 2006, at 21:03, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

 
  James Strachan wrote:
  We have received the generous donation of a complete and working
  BPE engine to the ServiceMix project...
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
  200602.mbox/%
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  the contributor has offered to donate to Apache  complete the
  necessary software grants  IP clearance and to work with us on
  integrating it into ServiceMix.
 
  I assume we'd all get to see the code under an Apache License
  before deciding to accept.  How else could we vote it in?
 
  [SNIP]
 
  I'll go out on a limb here :
 
  [X] -1 I object because: ...
 
  ... I think that a BPEL engine is something that spans many of the
  WS and SOA oriented projects at the ASF, such as ServiceMix,
  Tuscany, Synapse, Agila, etc...
 
  However, that's not my main reason, because honestly, if I was the
  only one that cared about that, I wouldn't ever attempt to stand in
  the way of people wanting to do cool things.
 
  However, this proposal has sent up far too many red flags, has
  alienated too many people, and is causing too much of a bad feeling
  in people, for ServiceMix, for Geronimo and for the ASF in general.
 
  I'd suggest you make a big effort to cool things down and get a
  broad conversation going, over at [EMAIL PROTECTED], drive to
  consensus, and then regroup and try again.
 
  geir
 
 
 


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Re: [VOTE] accept donation of a business process engine into the ServiceMix project

2006-02-05 Thread Roy T. Fielding

On Feb 5, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Rob Davies wrote:

 The way this 'debate' has continued has been very embarrassing -   
It just makes me wonder why anyone would consider donating code to  
Apache in the future ...


Because we care enough to have the debate.  If anyone wants silence,
they are free to go to sourceforge.  Silence is death.

Roy


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Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-05 Thread David N. Welton
Leo Simons wrote:

 As long as you make sure that the questions are more obvious from the docs
 afterwards, don't apologize :-)

*) IP clearance checklist - I need to make a copy of that in SVN here,
/incubator/site-author/ip-clearance.  I'll try and get that done over
the weekend.

Ok, I added /incubator/site-author/ip-clearance/ofbiz.xml - although I
only cut the lines to be cut and changed the title.  More later...

 Its not just the ip clearance that's needed. There's the concept of an
 incubator status file (see below).

I added that too, thanks to Jacopo Cappellato, who did the initial
version of it.

*) iCLA's - the OFBiz guys are working on it.  This needs to happen
before they get accounts, and conversely, they get accounts once this
happens, right?

 if the right emails are sent as documented on /dev/, yup.

Which /dev/ are you referring to?

*) Cleaning up the code - they're in the process of cleaning up the
code, getting rid of LGPL dependencies.  This needs to happen prior to
the code touching our subversion repositories, correct?

 No. It needs to happen prior to making any kind of release, and no LGPL
 code or binaries should touch our SVN. But working on removing such a
 dependency while within the incubator is okay.

Ok - I get the impression that they've got a good handle on this, and
may be able to do the initial import with no dependancies.

*) JIRA - they have a JIRA instance of their own, which should be
migrated to the ASF.  I don't know anything about admin'ing JIRA, so I
believe this step will require collaboration between David Jones and
someone on the infrastructure team.  Should I/we go ahead and open an
issue on our side for JIRA migration?  Does this step have dependencies,
or can it start to happen when people are ready to do the work?

 Yes, go ahead. I think this is quite a tricky thing to do. Jeff Turner is
 the guy from the infra team to talk to.

Ok.  So, if David Jones is reading this, that would be jefft followed by
apache.org, right?

*) Mailing lists - an issue needs to be opened for the infrastructure
team to create them, and then collaborate on moving over the existing
subscriber list.  Same question on dependencies as above.

 No particular dependencies. Provide the subscriber list as a file with
 email addresses seperated by newlines and add it to the jira issue, and
 its easy for the apmail people to add all those people in one swoop.
 Once that is done you can send an email to the new mailing list and all
 those people will know they're on a new list.

 Handling external mailing list archives (eg marc, mail-archives, gmane)
 might be a little work and depends on how those archives are set up to
 interact with the ASF stuff; I think some of them have 'special' support.

I'll let the OFBiz guys take it from here on this issue...

Anything else?
 
 
 The first step before doing any of the above is to get an incubation
 status file filled out and up on
 
   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
 
 Eg, start off with
 
   
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/incubation-status-template.xml

Thanks to Jacopo, we have an initial cut at that, but neither he nor I
has the tools to turn it into HTML (and I need to get some sleep tonight).

If anyone else on the OFBiz team wants to have a crack at it, it's
attached to this email (I'm not sure you can access the incubator repo
anonymously?).

-- 
David N. Welton
- http://www.dedasys.com/davidw/

Linux, Open Source Consulting
- http://www.dedasys.com/
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
document
  properties
!--meta content=HTML Tidy, see www.w3.org name=generator/--
!--meta content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 http-equiv=Content-Type/--

titleOFBiz Incubation Status/title
link href=http://purl.org/DC/elements/1.0/; rel=schema.DC/
  /properties
  body
section id=OFBiz+Project+Incubation+Status
  titleOFBiz Project Incubation Status/title
  pThis page tracks the project status, incubator-wise. For more general project status, look on the project website./p
/section
section id=Description
  titleDescription/title
  p
	The Open For Business Project (OFBiz) is an open source
	enterprise automation software project. By open source
	enterprise automation we mean: Open Source ERP, Open Source
	CRM, Open Source E-Business / E-Commerce, Open Source SCM,
	Open Source MRP, Open Source CMMS/EAM, and so on. It is one of
	the few apps of this type to be developed by a community,
	rather than one corporation.
  /p
/section
section id=News
  titleNews/title
  ul
li2006-01-31 Project accepted by the Incubator PMC/li
li2006-01-10 Project proposed to the Incubator PMC/li
  /ul
/section
section id=Project+info
  titleProject info/title
  ul
lilink to the main website/li
  /ul
  ul
lilink to the page(s) that tell how to participate (Website,Mailing lists,Bug tracking,Source 

Re: SSH and SVN passwords

2006-02-05 Thread Martin Sebor

Martin Sebor wrote:

robert burrell donkin wrote:


On 2/1/06, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could someone kindly describe (or point us to a document explaining)
how to reset a user password at people.apache.org?





i don't that this is documented anywhere (or indeed whether there's
concensus about the right way to do this).

but infrastructure workflow is handled through JIRA (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA) so creating an issue is
probably the best bet.



Thanks. I looked through the Jira categories/components but couldn't
find anything quite appropriate. But I'm sure it doesn't hurt to try
so we'll give it a whirl -- Allen, please go ahead an open an INFRA
request.


Allen, if you haven't done so yet, please open the INFRA request
in Jira as Robert suggested (I don't see it in Jira). You should
also vote on INFRA-443 that I just updated with the same request:
  http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-443

Martin

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Re: Incubator site status wrt a move to Anakia?

2006-02-05 Thread David Crossley
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
 
 Hooray, i fixed it. We were using a 1.5-dev version of
 Velocity. Now back to the 1.4 release version.
 
 Whoa.  The problem was velocity 1.5?

I just needed to move forward and the 1.4 -based setup
worked, so i used it and dumped your -dev version.

Note that all i did was to synchronise our Anakia
with that of infrastructure/site svn.

Actually it might be jdom.

-David

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Re: OFBiz - next steps

2006-02-05 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 11:32:59PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote:
 *) iCLA's - the OFBiz guys are working on it.  This needs to happen
 before they get accounts, and conversely, they get accounts once this
 happens, right?
 
  if the right emails are sent as documented on /dev/, yup.
 
 Which /dev/ are you referring to?

http://www.apache.org/dev/, sorry.

 *) JIRA - they have a JIRA instance of their own, which should be
 migrated to the ASF.  I don't know anything about admin'ing JIRA, so I
 believe this step will require collaboration between David Jones and
 someone on the infrastructure team.  Should I/we go ahead and open an
 issue on our side for JIRA migration?  Does this step have dependencies,
 or can it start to happen when people are ready to do the work?
 
  Yes, go ahead. I think this is quite a tricky thing to do. Jeff Turner is
  the guy from the infra team to talk to.
 
 Ok.  So, if David Jones is reading this, that would be jefft followed by
 apache.org, right?

Think so. Make sure to use the mailing lists :-)

 If anyone else on the OFBiz team wants to have a crack at it, it's
 attached to this email (I'm not sure you can access the incubator repo
 anonymously?).

Yep. As open as possible:

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/
  http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Project+Website+Howto
  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html

cheers,

Leo

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Re: [PROPOSAL] incubate OpenEJB as sub-projects of Geronimo

2006-02-05 Thread David Blevins

On Feb 4, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:


On Friday 03 February 2006 03:50, David Blevins wrote:

OpenEJB has been proposed as a subproject of Geronimo.  See the
proposal here:


I think this is a good idea.

However, I would like to hear why OpenEJB was not part of Geronimo's
incubation?? After all, it was one of the cornerstones to get  
Geronimo off

the ground, wasn't it...


Nothing mysterious really.  At the time the team overlap was only two  
people (myself and RMH) and it was actually *during* incubation that  
the teams started coming together.


Now, I can't even keep track of all the people who wear both OpenEJB  
and Geronimo hats.



-David




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