Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 17 October 2006 12:44, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Thanks, and we look forward to your comments.  To avoid cross-post
 confusion, I will forward this message to the harmony-dev list rather
 than CC.

Amazing feat, indeed. I was very pessimistic to the start of Harmony, and am 
gladly proven wrong.

Now, has all IP concerns been sorted out, especially to the been exposed to 
Sun's SCSL'd reference codebase been sorted out, both for existing 
committers and some process to how this is applied to new committers??


Keep up the good work.
Niclas

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Re: New Name for UIMA Podling?

2006-10-17 Thread Mads Toftum
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 11:58:53PM +0200, Leo Simons wrote:
 Note UIMA is a fine name for an apache project. We have projects like  
 
+1 - there seems to have started some sort of fascination with changing
names where there is no need. In general I'm not really a fan of naming
things so that it is impossible to guess what a project is (that's hard
enough as it is already).

vh

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Re: New Name for UIMA Podling?

2006-10-17 Thread Marshall Schor
The name UIMA has built up some amount of name recognition in the 
community where it is being adopted, so there's some advantage to not 
changing it.  It also has an advantage of being rather short. 

For our project files currently on SourceForge, we used as a naming root 
uimaj  - the j being appended to indicate the Java version of the 
framework.  We also have a C++ enablement layer, which is part of what 
we'll be bringing into the incubator.  These we currently manage as 2 
independent but coordinated projects, from a release standpoint.


Over time, we might see other implementations of the UIMA framework, in 
other languages (C# / .net for instance).


To start, my sense is to try and keep things simple, and have one 
project, under one name - but thinking ahead, it's nice if that can 
change when and if needed into some kind of a small hierarchy of related 
projects, with related names.


-Marshall Schor

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[VOTE] Publish Yoko M1 release

2006-10-17 Thread Mosur Ravi, Balaji
The Yoko community voted on and has approved a proposal to release Yoko
Milestone 1.
 
Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy we would now
like to request the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the
milestone on the Yoko Download page.
 
Thanks
 
Balaji
 
Proposal:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-yoko-dev/200609.mbox/
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%3e
 
Vote result:
[VOTE] [RESULT] Publish Yoko M1 release
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-yoko-dev/200609.mbox/
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Download from:
http://people.apache.org/~bravi
 
Releases section of the Incubation Policy:
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases

 



Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr


Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 On Tuesday 17 October 2006 12:44, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Thanks, and we look forward to your comments.  To avoid cross-post
 confusion, I will forward this message to the harmony-dev list rather
 than CC.
 
 Amazing feat, indeed. I was very pessimistic to the start of Harmony, and am 
 gladly proven wrong.
 
 Now, has all IP concerns been sorted out, especially to the been exposed to 
 Sun's SCSL'd reference codebase been sorted out, both for existing 
 committers and some process to how this is applied to new committers??

Yes.  There never were any existing committers.  We started with zero
and people were voted in.  (Individuals listed on the proposal had a
lower bar - the just had to show participation and submit some
patches/fixes).

Every contributor we accept new independent material from has to
complete our Authorized Contributor Questionnaire (which you can find
on the website) which we keep a tiff or pdf of in SVN.  I think we
currently have 120 on file.  Also, we ask for ACQs from all individuals
that contributed to any bulk contribution - one in which software was
written elsewhere and donated to us.

These IP processes are built on top of the standard Apache process.

geir





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Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Tuesday October 17 2006 12:44 am, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 The PPMC of the Apache Harmony incubator podling has voted to ask for
 graduation from the Apache Incubator.  We have enjoyed our time here
 with you, but feel that we don't want to overstay our welcome.  We want
  to do our part to help make sure the ASF has more projects than the
 Incubator :)

 snip 

 We won't have a release of this software until we are finished with
 Java SE 5.  We may have milestone release late this quarter or in Q1 of
 next year, but we wish to avoid hyping the capability of what we have,
 and get our software stabilized and useful for general use.  Users are
 very important to us, but we realize that there's a minimum amount of
 functionality and stability required before it's interesting to the
 casual user, and we're just reaching that point.


I don't have a binding vote, but my thought is Harmony has the 
same issue as Felix: namely they haven't done a release or provided 
even a test release to the IPMC so the IPMC can be sure the podling 
knows the proper way to do a release and understands and can correct all 
the issues such as proper apache licensing, etc...Basically, make 
sure the podling can get all their Apache Legal Ducks in a Row.

Looking at the latest snapshot downloaded from the website, there 
definitely are some things missing.  (mainly, stuff missing from the 
META-INF of all the jars)

Anyway, I think Harmony should first go through the process of preparing a 
release and get it OK'd by the IPMC.   There is a LOT a podling can learn 
while going through that process.Since Felix was asked to create a 
sample release, I would expect Harmony should do the same.

Anyway, those are my (non-binding) thoughts.

Dan




 We'd like to help make this as efficient a process as possible - please
 let us know if there are any issues that will prevent a successful vote
 by the PMC on our graduation.  If there are no un-addressed issues in
 the next 3 days, I'd like to call a vote late on Thursday, October
 19th, so we can possibly be finished in time for the next Board
 meeting, October 25th.

 Thanks, and we look forward to your comments.  To avoid cross-post
 confusion, I will forward this message to the harmony-dev list rather
 than CC.

 geir
 Champion and Mentor, Apache Harmony podling

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Re: [Trinidad] notice for a vote on a new committer

2006-10-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf

FYI,

the vote ended, we got 4 binding +1, 2 non-binding and one more
binding, after I sent out the *result* :)

She sends out the fax today and so I guess she will be listed soon on
Jim's page.
Welcome Gabrielle Crawford!

-Matthias

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Hey guys,

as mentioned in [1] we discussed on the PPMC a nominee for a new
committer - Gabrielle Crawford. The real vote takes place on the *public*
adffaces dev list. This mail is to keep the IPMC updated, as mentioned
in [1].

I'll start the vote *after* this mail

-Matthias

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/learn/newcommitters.html

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[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-49) create a status page for UIMA

2006-10-17 Thread Ian Holsman (JIRA)
create a status page for UIMA
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 Key: INCUBATOR-49
 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-49
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Task
  Components: site
Reporter: Ian Holsman


please create a status page for UIMA (and other stuff required to start the 
podling on the site).

(I don't think I have the access to do this myself)

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Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:33, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Will you be satisfied with a vote on posting a snapshot?

I think some Incubator PMC member wants to see a 'full release' artifact for 
review. The podling should select a release manager producing the artifact, 
which the PPMC first ensure is correct and vote upon, before asking the IPMC 
to take a closer look. 
If the release artifact(s) that is/are voted Ok by the PPMC also satisfies the 
IPMC members, then I think noone has any further objections for graduation.


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: [discussion] Harmony podling to ask for vote for graduation

2006-10-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr


Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 On Wednesday 18 October 2006 10:33, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
 Will you be satisfied with a vote on posting a snapshot?
 
 I think some Incubator PMC member wants to see a 'full release' artifact for 
 review. The podling should select a release manager producing the artifact, 
 which the PPMC first ensure is correct and vote upon, before asking the IPMC 
 to take a closer look. 

Right now, we really don't have anything to release.

Will y'all be satisfied if we go through the process for a new snapshot,
pretending it's a release for Incubator purpose?

 If the release artifact(s) that is/are voted Ok by the PPMC also satisfies 
 the 
 IPMC members, then I think noone has any further objections for graduation.
 

Given that the physical artifact is going to be the same as the
snapshots we have now, can you please comment on that now so we can fix
any problems before the process demonstration, so that we're don't wind
up playing fetch me a rock?  Note that the best practice of LICENSE
and NOTICE in META-INF has been noted and addressed.

geir


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