RE: April 2008 Incubator Board Report
Henri Yandell wrote: Is the first section (included below) intended for the board report, or board@ commentary? The former, as usual. I'm interested to know why you thought that it might be otherwise, given the pattern of prior reports. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCE] Apache Tuscany Java SDO 1.1 released
The Apache Tuscany team are pleased to announce the 1.1-incubating release of the Java SDO project. Service Data Objects (SDO) are designed to simplify and unify the way in which applications handle data. Using SDO, application programmers can uniformly access and manipulate data from heterogeneous data sources, including relational databases, XML data sources, Web services, and enterprise information systems. Tuscany SDO provides an implementation of the SDO 2.1 specification, this 1.1 release includes several new features and improvements over the 1.0 release such as: - the ability to generate SDO test classes using the maven-sdo-plugin - support for custom data binding of DataObjects in a Swing UI - Using the HelperContext for scope in the Tuscany API - improved diagnostics along with many bug fixes. See the RELEASE_NOTES for full details. For more information and to download the SDO 1.1 release please go to: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sdo-java-releases.html Apache Tuscany welcomes your help. Any contribution, including code, testing, improving the documentation, or bug reporting is always appreciated. For more information on how to get involved in Apache Tuscany visit the website at: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany. Thank you for your interest in Apache Tuscany! The Apache Tuscany Team. --- Tuscany is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Web services PMC. Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Proposal] NoNameYet aka Davos
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: There is a discussion going on Tuscany dev list whether the SDO part of the community would like to join the new project in the event it will get approved in incubation. Once there is a consensus, Kelvin will update the proposal. Status? I gather its not going to be taken any further. Oh? That's a surprise. We'd been given the impression that all was well, and that the Tuscany SDO folks were looking forward to joining the new project. Is there explanation on the Tuscany list? I think there was consensus with the Tuscany folks to join the new project if it went ahead, but after assessing all the discussions and feedback from the Incubator it was decided to not to go ahead with the proposal. The others involved may have more detailed comments but thats about the sum of it. ...ant
RE: [Proposal] NoNameYet aka Davos
ant elder wrote: I think there was consensus with the Tuscany folks to join the new project if it went ahead That's what I was seeing. Coincidentally, I was just reading the mail archives when your message came in. but after assessing all the discussions and feedback from the Incubator it was decided to not to go ahead with the proposal. The others involved may have more detailed comments but thats about the sum of it. That is still a surprise. Even if Tuscany SDO had not moved/merged, I don't believe that we would have prevented the projects if that were to be the sole issue, and so with Tuscany agreeing to the plan, I'd have fully expected to see the proposal. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
I am happy to write up the proposal. The more I read and think about this project the more I really think that it would be a great one for Apache to undertake if the appropriate community can be built around it. The only thing holding up my proposal writing is my concern for the process. The process implies that one needs to have a Champion *before* writing the proposal and finding the Mentors. I am aware of whom I can ask to be a Champion but I don't want to overstep my bounds. There are two existing projects that I believe a photo gallery would compliment. Is a Champion required before submitting the proposal? Also, did I miss finding an FAQ on the Proposal process? I checked the Wiki and the Incubator Web site. I don't want to post a lot of questions that may be answered easily elsewhere. Thanks, Angie At 11:08 AM 4/14/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Andrus Adamchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one won't get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following one of the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on it, and see if you can find mentors here. +1 it's community, not code (the acceptance process is also somewhat subjective which introduces an element of chance) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
The proposal guide is here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html One way to find a champion is to start writing your proposal on the incubator wiki, and notifying this list. As people understand what it is you want to do, they may step up to the task. Starting the proposal on the wiki is not the same as officially submitting it. --Thilo Angela Cymbalak wrote: I am happy to write up the proposal. The more I read and think about this project the more I really think that it would be a great one for Apache to undertake if the appropriate community can be built around it. The only thing holding up my proposal writing is my concern for the process. The process implies that one needs to have a Champion *before* writing the proposal and finding the Mentors. I am aware of whom I can ask to be a Champion but I don't want to overstep my bounds. There are two existing projects that I believe a photo gallery would compliment. Is a Champion required before submitting the proposal? Also, did I miss finding an FAQ on the Proposal process? I checked the Wiki and the Incubator Web site. I don't want to post a lot of questions that may be answered easily elsewhere. Thanks, Angie At 11:08 AM 4/14/2008, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Andrus Adamchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also even if some other proposals got canned, this doesn't this one won't get accepted. The best thing to do is to submit a proposal following one of the existing templates and let the people on this list comment on it, and see if you can find mentors here. +1 it's community, not code (the acceptance process is also somewhat subjective which introduces an element of chance) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-73) broken link on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html
broken link on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html --- Key: INCUBATOR-73 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-73 Project: Incubator Issue Type: Bug Components: site Environment: all Reporter: Angela Cymbalak Priority: Minor the paragraph: p Every proposal is different. There will always be some aspects which do not seem to fit well into the a href=#templatetemplate/a. Use the template as a guide but do not feel constrained by it. Adopt what works and change what doesn't. That's fine - in fact, it's expected. /p contains the broken a href=#templatetemplate/a It should be a href=#proposal-templatetemplate/a -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Report reviews
Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, I reviewed the submitted project reports for April. I'm not sure if people are actively following the page or the diffs, so here's a summary of my review. OK: * CouchDB * PDFBox (I'm a mentor) * Tika (I'm a mentor) OK with comments: * CXF - Good luck for the TLP! * Imperius - Issues before graduation? * JSPWiki - Issues before graduation? * Qpid - Did you understand the IPMC concerns about diversity? The report seems to indicate otherwise. Also missing: Qpid is ...? Incubating since? * Sanselan - Issues before graduation? * Shindig - Issues before graduation? * UIMA - Too comfortable in the Incubator? Focus on growing the community and on graduating! Not at all comfortable, to the contrary ;-) We're trying as hard as we know how to grow our development community. (The user community is doing fine, btw). We realize that the UIMA core may be a bit hard for people to get into, so we've been trying to start things on the periphery, such as analysis components and tooling, to get people to help. We're open to suggestion on what we could do to attract additional developers. --Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Report reviews
Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, I reviewed the submitted project reports for April. I'm not sure if people are actively following the page or the diffs, so here's a summary of my review. OK: * CouchDB * PDFBox (I'm a mentor) * Tika (I'm a mentor) OK with comments: * CXF - Good luck for the TLP! * Imperius - Issues before graduation? * JSPWiki - Issues before graduation? * Qpid - Did you understand the IPMC concerns about diversity? The report seems to indicate otherwise. Also missing: Qpid is ...? Incubating since? * Sanselan - Issues before graduation? * Shindig - Issues before graduation? * UIMA - Too comfortable in the Incubator? Focus on growing the community and on graduating! Hi Jukka - We're not at all comfortable and have become recently more assertive in trying to entice other potentially interested parties to come and join in the development of UIMA. We completely agree with your point - we need to focus on growing our community and graduating. Please send any good prospective committers / PPMC members our way :-). -Marshall Report missing: * Buildr * FtpServer * Ivy * RCF * JuiCE * Lucene.Net BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: guidance needed: looking into writing a proposal
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proposal guide is here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html One way to find a champion is to start writing your proposal on the incubator wiki, and notifying this list. As people understand what it is you want to do, they may step up to the task. Starting the proposal on the wiki is not the same as officially submitting it. +1 if you blog then write entries about why the proposal excites you. excitement is contageous: unless you are well [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's the best way to find a champion. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Report reviews
Marshall Schor wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, I reviewed the submitted project reports for April. I'm not sure if people are actively following the page or the diffs, so here's a summary of my review. OK: * CouchDB * PDFBox (I'm a mentor) * Tika (I'm a mentor) OK with comments: * CXF - Good luck for the TLP! * Imperius - Issues before graduation? * JSPWiki - Issues before graduation? * Qpid - Did you understand the IPMC concerns about diversity? The report seems to indicate otherwise. Also missing: Qpid is ...? Incubating since? Comments where added in the report prior to additional reviews. * Sanselan - Issues before graduation? * Shindig - Issues before graduation? * UIMA - Too comfortable in the Incubator? Focus on growing the community and on graduating! Hi Jukka - We're not at all comfortable and have become recently more assertive in trying to entice other potentially interested parties to come and join in the development of UIMA. We completely agree with your point - we need to focus on growing our community and graduating. Please send any good prospective committers / PPMC members our way :-). -Marshall Report missing: * Buildr * FtpServer * Ivy * RCF * JuiCE * Lucene.Net BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Requesting proper karma for Tuscany Committers to access repo/private/committers
Could someone on the IPMC please help us get the proper karma to some Tuscany committers that does not have access to repo/private/committers. From a thread on [EMAIL PROTECTED] the following committers does not have proper access : agrove ajborley amita edwardsmj frankb fuhwei gwinn isilval jmarino jsdelfino kelvingoodson kwilliams slaws svkrish BTW, I'm asking this here, per infra@ request. Thanks -- Luciano Resende Apache Tuscany Committer http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graduate Tuscany as a top level project
On Sunday 13 April 2008 19:30, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: IMHO the emphasis on committer affiliation is misguided. overloading the word diversity was also probably a mistake. maybe we need to focus on narrower concepts with alternative names. 1. the incubator should be concerned about the composition of the proposed PMC. 2. for a top level project to succeed, it needs to be able to encrourage, recruit and mentor new independent developers. +1. Also, my personal and highly subjective interpretation of the (if present) intent around diversity boils down to one scenario; * A company pulls the plug for paid developers - will the project survive? Other cases of dominance have been brought up, such as forcing the company's will upon the community, rejection to expand the developer community and PMC membership, and so forth. I find these issues less important, as ASF Members can (and should) monitor PMCs in general and raise flags to the board if misuse is happening, and we have been there before and can deal with it. So, for the case of Tuscany; I am satisfied with the diversity goal, and encourage Tuscany community with the aid of Mentors to move for graduation. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Report reviews
On Monday 14 April 2008 20:40, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Johan Compagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was away at ApacheCon (with fairly lousy 'net access, sadly)... I just updated Lucene.Net's April report. not my experience, i found the connection pretty good and fast (even upload) hrm, depends. once in a while it was very bad. but generally OK... during my talk I had no connection :-) Probably because I consumed all the bandwidth single-handedly ;o) Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
