Re: Security restrictions

2008-05-18 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

Alan D. Cabrera wrote:


On May 17, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Alan D. Cabrera 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm beginning to regret not slogging through all those threads about 
the IP
checks in relation to security.  Ok, I'm actually glad that I didn't 
waste

my time.


WRT security...?

(maybe it's just slipped my mind but i don't recall much about IP and 
security)



Is there a check list available for me to use for a podling?


a guide is being drafted in 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html


Apparently OpenSAML had all sorts of these IP issues.  For example, we 
have to worry about IDEA.
The main isssue OpenSAML (if I remember what I read) was mainly about 
RSA (http://marc.info/?l=incubator-generalw=2r=1s=opensaml)


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Re: Security restrictions

2008-05-18 Thread Roland Weber

Alan D. Cabrera wrote:


On May 17, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Alan D. Cabrera 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm beginning to regret not slogging through all those threads about 
the IP
checks in relation to security.  Ok, I'm actually glad that I didn't 
waste

my time.


WRT security...?

(maybe it's just slipped my mind but i don't recall much about IP and 
security)



Is there a check list available for me to use for a podling?


a guide is being drafted in 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html


Apparently OpenSAML had all sorts of these IP issues.  For example, we 
have to worry about IDEA.


Please don't confuse security and cryptography. For example,
here is some security advice from Bruce Schneier ;-)
http://www.schneier.com/essay-173.html
You can use all kinds of cryptography and still end up with
a completely unsecure system.

Wikipedia says that IDEA is patent protected until 2010/11:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Data_Encryption_Algorithm
That is a general problem with patents, it is not specific to
cryptography or security. If you are aware of any patents
that might apply to your podling, maybe you should take that
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A specific thing for cryptography are export notifications,
but as I understand it, that is not your concern at the moment.
http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html

cheers,
  Roland



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legal-discuss moderation versus IP clearance

2008-05-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
All,

I've followed the instructions of the IP clearance documentation and
sent in a software grant to both secretary@ and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, the legal-archive message was never moderated to pass
through.

Is nobody watching that list? If so, should we add more volunteers to
legal-archive, or should we drop the requirement to send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Martijn

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Q: ip-clearance step 5

2008-05-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Step 5 of the IP clearance states:

If the source is referenced by checksum in the grant, commit the
canonical tarball for the donated code into the incubator drop area
together with a checksum and a detached signature. This will ensure
that apache has a legal record of the grant.
Complete and commit the completed form.

Where do I commit the code and in what form? I have a kitten-auth.zip
file, should the zip file be committed or the unzipped code?
Should it be committed into a directory inside
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ and what should the
 be?

or does the code go directly into the project?

Martijn

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Re: legal-discuss moderation versus IP clearance

2008-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Martijn Dashorst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All,

 I've followed the instructions of the IP clearance documentation and
 sent in a software grant to both secretary@ and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 However, the legal-archive message was never moderated to pass
 through.

 Is nobody watching that list? If so, should we add more volunteers to
 legal-archive, or should we drop the requirement to send a message to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the legal committee is responsible for this process so this is
probably a call for them. so, this probably needs asking on legal
discuss.

IMHO subversion is better than email for archiving so i would be happy
to drop the legal-archive post from the process

- robert

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Re: Q: ip-clearance step 5

2008-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Martijn Dashorst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Step 5 of the IP clearance states:

 If the source is referenced by checksum in the grant, commit the
 canonical tarball for the donated code into the incubator drop area
 together with a checksum and a detached signature. This will ensure
 that apache has a legal record of the grant.
 Complete and commit the completed form.

 Where do I commit the code and in what form? I have a kitten-auth.zip
 file, should the zip file be committed or the unzipped code?

apache needs a record of the checksummed artifact. this is likely to
be the zipped code.

 Should it be committed into a directory inside
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ and what should the
  be?

 or does the code go directly into the project?

the code goes into the project

(IMHO the process is too heavyweight and needs revision)

- robert

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Re: Q: ip-clearance step 5

2008-05-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 5/18/08, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Where do I commit the code and in what form? I have a kitten-auth.zip
   file, should the zip file be committed or the unzipped code?
 apache needs a record of the checksummed artifact. this is likely to
  be the zipped code.

I've attached it to a JIRA issue
(http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1610).

But the IP-Clearance form asks for the code to reflect the new
copyright information:

Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been
updated to reflect the new ASF copyright.

This means I shouldn't commit the zipped code, but the code itself,
modify it to make it ASF policy compliant, and then hold the
acceptance vote?

  (IMHO the process is too heavyweight and needs revision)

Heavyweight is not the biggest problem. It is mostly confusing and
contradictory.

Martijn

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Re: Q: ip-clearance step 5

2008-05-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Martijn Dashorst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/18/08, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Where do I commit the code and in what form? I have a kitten-auth.zip
   file, should the zip file be committed or the unzipped code?
 apache needs a record of the checksummed artifact. this is likely to
  be the zipped code.

 I've attached it to a JIRA issue
 (http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1610).

 But the IP-Clearance form asks for the code to reflect the new
 copyright information:

 Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been
 updated to reflect the new ASF copyright.

AIUI that statement is incorrect

 This means I shouldn't commit the zipped code, but the code itself,
 modify it to make it ASF policy compliant, and then hold the
 acceptance vote?

the principle is very simple: apache needs to record the artifact that
has the right checksum

IMHO the best practice is to record the artifact in a JIRA and then
commit the uncompressed code as is into a separate area before
updating it. this ensures that the conversion process is recorded.

  (IMHO the process is too heavyweight and needs revision)

 Heavyweight is not the biggest problem. It is mostly confusing and
 contradictory.

IMO it's confusing and contardictory nature arises from it's weight

- robert

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Re: Q: ip-clearance step 5

2008-05-18 Thread Roy T. Fielding

On May 18, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

apache needs a record of the checksummed artifact. this is likely to
be the zipped code.


FTR, Apache only needs this if there is no other way to map the
contribution to the contributor.  The easiest way to map them is
to have the contributor (or their employee) commit the code
directly to subversion or attached to jira/bugzilla, in which
case the checksum is unnecessary.

Roy


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Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I see activity on the mailing lists for all of these projects, and see
active Mentors ... so where are the reports?  I will not be readily
available to pick up changes tomorrow morning, so we need them now.

--- Noel



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RE: [VOTE] Apache Tuscany Graduation as TLP

2008-05-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I went back, for nostalgic fun, and reviewed the discussions from when
Tuscany was originally proposed and debated.  Tuscany has come a long way,
from an initial proposal to do something for which there was not even a
specification.

+1

Congratulations.

--- Noel



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Re: Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread Shane Isbell
Just updated NMaven.

Thanks,
Shane

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I see activity on the mailing lists for all of these projects, and see
 active Mentors ... so where are the reports?  I will not be readily
 available to pick up changes tomorrow morning, so we need them now.

--- Noel



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RE: Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 Just updated NMaven.

Got it.  :-)

--- Noel


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RE: Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Got Abdera's, too.

--- Noel


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Re: Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread James Snell
Abdera's is updated.

- James

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Got Abdera's, too.

--- Noel


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Re: Reports Overdue for: Abdera, NMaven, WSP4J, XAP

2008-05-18 Thread James Snell
Heh... sorry, hit reply before I actually read the note I was replying to :-)

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM, James Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Abdera's is updated.

 - James

 On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Got Abdera's, too.

--- Noel


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Re: Mentor recruit for Hama project

2008-05-18 Thread Brett Porter
Hi Edward,

I think you're going to be in for some significant challenges in
growing a community in what appears to be a fairly specialised field -
but if you're up for that challenge I will be happy to mentor the
project, so you can go ahead and add my name.

Just to clarify - this is intended to be a standalone project, not a
subproject of hadoop?

Thanks,
Brett

2008/5/18 Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello all,

 The Hama team is looking for a couple more mentor volunteers in
 addition to our current volunteers (Ian  Jeff). We really want to be
 accepted into incubator status and we realize we need to learn more of
 the culture of the Apache community so that we can work effectively
 with the Incubator and with the other communities that are important
 to our proposal (Hadoop, Hbase and Mahout).

 The Hama domain of parallel matrix computation is very challenging and
 has been the target of significant mathematical and computer science
 research. We believe that the benefits of supporting large matrix
 computations efficiently on very large scale Hadoop clusters are
 immense and we have great enthusiasm for this endeavor. With hard work
 and the support of the larger Apache community we believe we can be
 successful.

 --
 Best regards,
 Edward

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