Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Qpid Incubating M3 (RC4)

2008-09-04 Thread Martin Ritchie
2008/9/4 Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Definitely a big step in the right direction, however..

 The ruby, c++, and python packages don't have the disclaimer in them.

 The Java licenses file mentions the EPL, but I didn't see any eclipse licensed
 jars and stuff.   I could have missed it though.   Not a big deal though.


 Dan

Thanks for catching that Dan I've put the missing files in now. The
Java Management Console is and Eclipse bundle though we don't release
it as a standalone component to run it or compile it you will need a
variety of EPL jars.

At some point we may have individual releases of the broker, client
and management console but for M3 just now they are a single Java
release.

Regards,

Martin

 On Tuesday 02 September 2008 5:25:08 pm Aidan Skinner wrote:
 There were some problems with the NOTICE and LICENSE files in RC3 (is
 there a good guide to this anywhere? having all the individual
 licenses in LICENSE seems odd to me...) so I've rolled RC4[1]  and
 would like to restart the vote to release Apache Qpid M3.

 I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-08-22:
 http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
 And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/message/xb3qppr5krtdp43w

 There were:
 8 +1s (1 of which was binding)
 0 0's
 0 -1's

 Which were cast by:
 Alan Conway
 Arnaud Simon
 Martin Ritchie
 Gordon Sim
 Carl Trieloff
 Yoav Shapira (binding)
 Rajith Attapattu
 Lahiru Gunathilake

 Artifacts can be found at http://people.apache.org/~aidan/qpid/M3-RC4/
 Release notes are located here:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12312117sty
leName=HtmlprojectId=12310520Create=Create

 Please vote to:
 [+1] Release Apache Qpid M3
 [0] que?
 [-1] No, there's still an issue with it which needs to be corrected

 - Aidan

 [1] I ran release.sh and uploaded the output, ritchiem did the actual
 leg work for this one



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Re: [VOTE] accept Tashi into the Incubator

2008-09-04 Thread David O'Hallaron
The voting appears to have ended, with 14+ votes and zero negative
votes, and three volunteers to be mentors (thank you!):

1. Matthieu Riou ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2. Craig L Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
3. Paul Freemantle ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

What is the next step for admission into the incubator?

Dave O

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So shouldn't this vote get tallied now? Seems that we're well passed the 72
 hours.

 Matthieu

 On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 +1


 On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:

  Please vote on accepting Tashi into the Incubator.

 Tashi's proposal is at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TashiProposal

 Thanks!

 Doug


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[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-82) Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-04 Thread Jukka Zitting (JIRA)
Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository
---

 Key: INCUBATOR-82
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: policy
Reporter: Jukka Zitting


There has been a lot of discussion about whether to allow podlings to publish 
their releases in the central Maven repository. The current (undocumented) 
policy is that podlings may not use the central Maven repository as a 
distribution channel.

I am planning to call the Incubator PMC to vote on changing this policy. 
Instead of the specific case of the Maven repository, I would like to make the 
policy change cover any _additional_ distribution channels that the podlings 
may want to use. Otherwise we'll be having the same discussion again with other 
channels like Ruby Gems, Python Package Index, Perl CPAN, etc.

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[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-82) Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-04 Thread Jukka Zitting (JIRA)

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 ]

Jukka Zitting updated INCUBATOR-82:
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Attachment: INCUBATOR-82.patch

Proposed patch, version 1.

Is there something obvious that I'm missing? Any other feedback or comments on 
the details?

I'd like to nail down the exact wording of the proposed policy change before I 
call the vote on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository
 ---

 Key: INCUBATOR-82
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: policy
Reporter: Jukka Zitting
 Attachments: INCUBATOR-82.patch


 There has been a lot of discussion about whether to allow podlings to publish 
 their releases in the central Maven repository. The current (undocumented) 
 policy is that podlings may not use the central Maven repository as a 
 distribution channel.
 I am planning to call the Incubator PMC to vote on changing this policy. 
 Instead of the specific case of the Maven repository, I would like to make 
 the policy change cover any _additional_ distribution channels that the 
 podlings may want to use. Otherwise we'll be having the same discussion again 
 with other channels like Ruby Gems, Python Package Index, Perl CPAN, etc.

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RE: [PROPOSAL] Poloka

2008-09-04 Thread Mankovskii, Serge
Hi Guillaume,

This is interesting! Thank you for the tip on ServiceMix. I will take a
look in the ServiceMix code. 

Do you think it would make sense to send the Poloka proposal to the
ServiceMix mailing list?

 
Cheers
Serge


-Original Message-
From: Guillaume Nodet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:05 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Poloka

Btw, Apache ServiceMix also has a JBI service engine implementating
WS-BrokeredNotification on top of a JMS broker (which btw saves a lot
of work ...).  It would be interesting to see if we can come up with
something that could be shared by the three projects (Savan, Poloka
and ServiceMix) ...

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Mankovskii, Serge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am re-sending this proposal because the first time it ended up in
the
 Etch proposal thread. Sorry Etch guys!

 



 This is a proposal to enter Poloka in to the incubator.



 See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PolokaProposal



 We do not have a champion at the moment.



 We are looking forward to the community input.





 Cheers

 Serge Mankovski

 --



 = POLOKA Project Proposal =





 == Abstract ==



 Poloka will be a standalone reference implementation of the
 WS-BaseNotification, WS-Topics and the WS-BrokeredNotification
 standards. It is aiming to go beyond the WS-BrokeredNotification
 specification and deliver a reliable and scalable network of
 WS-BrokeredNotification brokers. All existing implementations of
 WS-BrokeredNotification focus on implementation of a message broker.

 Poloka will implement additional features that would allow for a
 federation of brokers. It will extend WS-BrokeredNotification
 specification with the notion of a federated broker network and allow
 for a reliable, a scalable and a highly available implementation of
the
 WS-BrokeredNotification standard.



 == Proposal ==



 Poloka will provide a reference implementation of WS-BaseNotification,
 WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards. The project will
 provide a clear separation of functionality required by the existing
 standards from additional functionality provided as an enhancement and
 elaboration on the standards



 Poloka will:

  1.   not be tightly coupled with WS-RF and WSDM standards

  1.   implement the WS-BrokeredNotification specification absent in

 the Apache Muse project

  1.   will implement a network of brokers that will provide

 scalability, reliability and fault tolerance

  1.   feed implementation and design experiences into the OASIS

 standards process and might lead to new revisions of the
WS-Notification
 stack of standards



 == Background ==



 Poloka is a second generation of the research project going on for the
 last five years at the University of Toronto's Middleware Systems
 Research Group under the
 [http://research.msrg.utoronto.ca/Padres/WebHome PADRES] project.

 During these years the group developed a stable code base that will
form
 a base for the first release of Poloka.



 The PADRES project has developed a number of new technologies that
allow
 for a scalable and reliable federation of publish/subscribe brokers.
The
 PADRES federation mechanisms allow for redundant message routing, load
 balancing, complex event processing and other useful features that
 become available to the federated network of the
WS-BrokeredNotification
 brokers.



 The project was started before WS-BrokeredNotification standard was
 created. The initial release of Poloka will contain existing PADRES
code
 that does not use any WS-* compliant interfaces. However that will
 change with the future releases. PADRES brokers will be enriched with
 the WS--Notification interfaces on the notification producer and
 notification consumer side. The Broker-to-Broker communication side of
 communication is not covered by any existing standards to date and it
 would remain non-WS based.



 The team engaged in the development of Poloka involves two former
 participants of the OASIS committee that produced WS-BaseNotification,
 WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards. Their engagement
would
 serve dual purposes: to serve as source if first-hand authoritative
 knowledge of the standards and as a conduit for the standards use
 experience that might result in future evolution of the
 WS-BaseNotification, WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards.



 A note about the project name; we are inspired by the impact WikiWiki
 made on the world of web applications. We followed the naming exampled
 set by author of the Wiki and simply translated word Broker using a
 Hawaiian dictionary. Poloka simply means Broker



 == Rationale ==



 Current adoption of the WS-Notification set of standard is impeded by
 absence of a standalone reference implementation. For example
 WS-Notification implementation in Apache Muse is incomplete and
tightly
 coupled with programming model of WS-RF 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Poloka

2008-09-04 Thread Guillaume Nodet
Yeah, one of our user wants to contribute new features to the WS
notification broker, so she may be interested.
FYI, the WS-Notification service engine code is located here:
  
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/components/engines/servicemix-wsn2005/trunk/

We're using CXF wsdl2java tool to generate the classes and interfaces
from the WSDL, then provide implementation of those on top of a JMS
broker.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Mankovskii, Serge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guillaume,

 This is interesting! Thank you for the tip on ServiceMix. I will take a
 look in the ServiceMix code.

 Do you think it would make sense to send the Poloka proposal to the
 ServiceMix mailing list?


 Cheers
 Serge


 -Original Message-
 From: Guillaume Nodet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:05 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Poloka

 Btw, Apache ServiceMix also has a JBI service engine implementating
 WS-BrokeredNotification on top of a JMS broker (which btw saves a lot
 of work ...).  It would be interesting to see if we can come up with
 something that could be shared by the three projects (Savan, Poloka
 and ServiceMix) ...

 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Mankovskii, Serge
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am re-sending this proposal because the first time it ended up in
 the
 Etch proposal thread. Sorry Etch guys!

 



 This is a proposal to enter Poloka in to the incubator.



 See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PolokaProposal



 We do not have a champion at the moment.



 We are looking forward to the community input.





 Cheers

 Serge Mankovski

 --



 = POLOKA Project Proposal =





 == Abstract ==



 Poloka will be a standalone reference implementation of the
 WS-BaseNotification, WS-Topics and the WS-BrokeredNotification
 standards. It is aiming to go beyond the WS-BrokeredNotification
 specification and deliver a reliable and scalable network of
 WS-BrokeredNotification brokers. All existing implementations of
 WS-BrokeredNotification focus on implementation of a message broker.

 Poloka will implement additional features that would allow for a
 federation of brokers. It will extend WS-BrokeredNotification
 specification with the notion of a federated broker network and allow
 for a reliable, a scalable and a highly available implementation of
 the
 WS-BrokeredNotification standard.



 == Proposal ==



 Poloka will provide a reference implementation of WS-BaseNotification,
 WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards. The project will
 provide a clear separation of functionality required by the existing
 standards from additional functionality provided as an enhancement and
 elaboration on the standards



 Poloka will:

  1.   not be tightly coupled with WS-RF and WSDM standards

  1.   implement the WS-BrokeredNotification specification absent in

 the Apache Muse project

  1.   will implement a network of brokers that will provide

 scalability, reliability and fault tolerance

  1.   feed implementation and design experiences into the OASIS

 standards process and might lead to new revisions of the
 WS-Notification
 stack of standards



 == Background ==



 Poloka is a second generation of the research project going on for the
 last five years at the University of Toronto's Middleware Systems
 Research Group under the
 [http://research.msrg.utoronto.ca/Padres/WebHome PADRES] project.

 During these years the group developed a stable code base that will
 form
 a base for the first release of Poloka.



 The PADRES project has developed a number of new technologies that
 allow
 for a scalable and reliable federation of publish/subscribe brokers.
 The
 PADRES federation mechanisms allow for redundant message routing, load
 balancing, complex event processing and other useful features that
 become available to the federated network of the
 WS-BrokeredNotification
 brokers.



 The project was started before WS-BrokeredNotification standard was
 created. The initial release of Poloka will contain existing PADRES
 code
 that does not use any WS-* compliant interfaces. However that will
 change with the future releases. PADRES brokers will be enriched with
 the WS--Notification interfaces on the notification producer and
 notification consumer side. The Broker-to-Broker communication side of
 communication is not covered by any existing standards to date and it
 would remain non-WS based.



 The team engaged in the development of Poloka involves two former
 participants of the OASIS committee that produced WS-BaseNotification,
 WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards. Their engagement
 would
 serve dual purposes: to serve as source if first-hand authoritative
 knowledge of the standards and as a conduit for the standards use
 experience that might result in future evolution of the
 WS-BaseNotification, WS-Topics and WS-BrokeredNotification standards.



 A note about the project 

[jira] Commented: (INCUBATOR-82) Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12628371#action_12628371
 ] 

Bertrand Delacretaz commented on INCUBATOR-82:
--

Looks good to me.

 Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository
 ---

 Key: INCUBATOR-82
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-82
 Project: Incubator
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: policy
Reporter: Jukka Zitting
 Attachments: INCUBATOR-82.patch


 There has been a lot of discussion about whether to allow podlings to publish 
 their releases in the central Maven repository. The current (undocumented) 
 policy is that podlings may not use the central Maven repository as a 
 distribution channel.
 I am planning to call the Incubator PMC to vote on changing this policy. 
 Instead of the specific case of the Maven repository, I would like to make 
 the policy change cover any _additional_ distribution channels that the 
 podlings may want to use. Otherwise we'll be having the same discussion again 
 with other channels like Ruby Gems, Python Package Index, Perl CPAN, etc.

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Re: [DISCUSS] Web20Kit: A Web 2.0 technology evaluation kit

2008-09-04 Thread Shanti Subramanyam

Here are some suggestions for alternate names :

Olio
Ratatouille
MixMatch  
(3 above indicating we're trying to mix and match components)


Ketero (Ethiopian I believe for 'appointment') or Catero 


Shanti

Craig L Russell wrote:

Hi Martin,

On Aug 26, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:


Yeah, an association with WebKit was my first assumption as well.


Agreed. New name.initiate().run().



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Re: [VOTE] accept Tashi into the Incubator

2008-09-04 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:02 AM, David O'Hallaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The voting appears to have ended, with 14+ votes and zero negative
 votes, and three volunteers to be mentors (thank you!):

 1. Matthieu Riou ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 2. Craig L Russell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 3. Paul Freemantle ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 What is the next step for admission into the incubator?


Ah! I'm glad someone finally reacts :) I was hoping for Doug to close the
vote but anyway it passed, so let's move on. I'll get your infra (mailing
lists and repository) set up and will contact initial committers (the two
Michaels) for CLAs. I believe a grant for the initial codebase will also be
needed.

Cheers,
Matthieu



 Dave O

 On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Matthieu Riou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  So shouldn't this vote get tallied now? Seems that we're well passed the
 72
  hours.
 
  Matthieu
 
  On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  +1
 
 
  On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Doug Cutting wrote:
 
   Please vote on accepting Tashi into the Incubator.
 
  Tashi's proposal is at:
 
   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TashiProposal
 
  Thanks!
 
  Doug
 
 
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[VOTE] Release Apache Qpid Incubating M3 (RC5)

2008-09-04 Thread Aidan Skinner
There were some problems with DISCLAIMER so I've rolled RC5  and
would like to restart the vote to release Apache Qpid M3.

I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-08-22:
http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/message/xb3qppr5krtdp43w

There were:
8 +1s (1 of which was binding)
0 0's
0 -1's

Which were cast by:
Alan Conway
Arnaud Simon
Martin Ritchie
Gordon Sim
Carl Trieloff
Yoav Shapira (binding)
Rajith Attapattu
Lahiru Gunathilake

Artifacts can be found at http://people.apache.org/~aidan/qpid/M3-RC5/
Release notes are located here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12312117styleName=HtmlprojectId=12310520Create=Create

Please vote to:
[+1] Release Apache Qpid M3
[0] meh
[-1] Non, il y a un problème, your french is rubbish and when did
babelfish.altavista.com move to yahoo! anyway?

- Aidan

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Qpid Incubating M3 (RC5)

2008-09-04 Thread Rajith Attapattu
+1 from looks ok.

Rajith

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Aidan Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There were some problems with DISCLAIMER so I've rolled RC5  and
 would like to restart the vote to release Apache Qpid M3.

 I started the vote on qpid-dev at 2008-08-22:
 http://markmail.org/message/2a6pmx3sdgvh5bu5
 And closed it on 2008-08-27 http://markmail.org/message/xb3qppr5krtdp43w

 There were:
 8 +1s (1 of which was binding)
 0 0's
 0 -1's

 Which were cast by:
 Alan Conway
 Arnaud Simon
 Martin Ritchie
 Gordon Sim
 Carl Trieloff
 Yoav Shapira (binding)
 Rajith Attapattu
 Lahiru Gunathilake

 Artifacts can be found at 
 http://people.apache.org/~aidan/qpid/M3-RC5/http://people.apache.org/%7Eaidan/qpid/M3-RC5/
 Release notes are located here:

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12312117styleName=HtmlprojectId=12310520Create=Create

 Please vote to:
 [+1] Release Apache Qpid M3
 [0] meh
 [-1] Non, il y a un problème, your french is rubbish and when did
 babelfish.altavista.com move to yahoo! anyway?

 - Aidan

 --
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 http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid
 Nine-tenths of wisdom consists in being wise in time. - Theodore
 Roosevelt




-- 
Regards,

Rajith Attapattu
Red Hat
http://rajith.2rlabs.com/