Re: [PROPOSAL] Deft for incubation

2011-07-08 Thread Julien Vermillard
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
 It would be nice, very nice indeed, if this happened.  It is not a MUST.  :)


 Regards,
 Alan

+1 :)

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Rave 0.1-incubating

2011-07-08 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
72 hours has elapsed and the lazy consensus vote is now closed.

There were no additional votes from IPMC members regarding this release.  

Please see the rave-dev vote thread for a list of the 3 IPMC members who cast 
+1 for the release.

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From: Franklin, Matthew B. [mailto:mfrank...@mitre.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:38 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
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Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache Rave 0.1-incubating

This is the first incubator release for Apache Rave, with the artifacts
being versioned as 0.1-incubating.

We are requesting a lazy consensus vote, as we have already received 3
binding IPMC +1 votes during the release voting on rave-dev -

Vote thread: 
http://apache.markmail.org/message/vmgwtdoueobdmc2g?q=list:org%2Eapache%2Ei
ncubator%2Erave-dev+%5BVOTE%5D+Apache+order:date-backwardpage=3s

Result: 
http://apache.markmail.org/message/lq6n7jgkhhlntqig?q=list:org%2Eapache%2Ei
ncubator%2Erave-dev+%5BVOTE%5D+Apache+order:date-backwardpage=1

Release notes:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/tags/0.1-incubating/CHANGEL
OG

SVN source tag (master) (r1141150):
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/rave-master-pom/tags/0.1-in
cubating/

SVN source tag (project)(r1141160)
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/tags/0.1-incubating/

Maven staging repo:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacherave-004/


Staged Source releases:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacherave-004/org/ap
ache/rave/rave-master/0.1-incubating/rave-master-0.1-incubating-source-rele
ase.zip
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacherave-004/org/ap
ache/rave/rave-project/0.1-incubating/rave-project-0.1-incubating-source-re
lease.zip

Staged Binary releases
http://people.apache.org/builds/incubator/rave/0.1-incubating/rave-0.1-incu
bating-bin.zip
http://people.apache.org/builds/incubator/rave/0.1-incubating/rave-0.1-incu
bating-bin.tar.gz

PGP release keys:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rave/KEYS


Lazy consensus, vote open for 72 hours.

[ ] +1  approve
[ ] +0  no opinion
[ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)



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Re: [VOTE] Deft to join the incubator

2011-07-08 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Niklas Gustavsson nik...@protocol7.com wrote:
 [X] +1 Accept Deft for incubation

/niklas

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[RESULT][VOTE] Deft to join the Incubator

2011-07-08 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
Hi

After 72 hours of voting, the results for Deft to join the Incubator
are complete:

* 9 +1's from IPMC members
* 1 +1 from non-binding
* No -1
* No 0

Binding +1:

Alan D. Cabrera
Bertrand Delacretaz
Emmanuel Lecharny
Julien Vermillard
Mark Struberg
Mohammad Nour El-Din
Niklas Gustavsson
Robert Burrell Donkin
Tim Williams

Non-binding +1:

Ashish Paliwal

Thanks for helping out on the proposal and voting!

/niklas

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Re: Anybody know legality of saaj-impl-1.3.jar?

2011-07-08 Thread Kevan Miller

On Jul 7, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

 On Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:32:37 AM Karl Wright wrote:
 OK - so now I'm getting conflicting advice.  Somebody went through a
 fair bit of effort to implement the geronimo versions of all these
 packages, including saaj-impl.  Are you saying that Sun/Oracle
 recently changed the licensing terms sufficiently that substituting
 the geronimo jars is no longer necessary? 
 
 I wouldn't say recently, but yes.  They did change licenses a while ago *for 
 new releases* from BCL to CDDL which moved them from Category X to Category 
 B.   
 So yes, substituting the geronimo jars in MOST cases is no longer necessary.  

Agreed. 

 However, not all of the Sun jars have had a new release with the new License. 
 
 That said, may folks would prefer the Apache licensed versions.
 
 That said, you specifically asked about saaj-impl, not saaj-api.   Geronimo 
 doesn't have a saaj-impl.  The closest at Apache would likely be in Axis.   I 
 believe they have an saaj-impl based on Axiom someplace.  Geronimo does have 
 an saaj-api I believe.   
 
 
 If so, what caveats do I
 need to include in NOTICE.txt and LICENSE.txt, or should I just copy
 whatever Chemistry does?
 
 Well, you'd need to mention the CDDL license for the saaj-impl in the 
 LICENSE.TXT.

Adding a bit more background:

saaj-impl (and many of the other implementations/specs) are dual licensed GPL 
v2 and CDDL. Any ASF project should choose CDDL. I had thought that the 
procedure for this was to include both of the licenses, then explicitly choose 
the preferred license. Looks like I'm wrong/out-of-date. Only the CDDL license 
should be included. See 
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#mutually-exclusive for details.

--kevan
 Karl
 
 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:
 On Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:08:52 AM Karl Wright wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 The ManifoldCF has had a connector contributed that is based on Apache
 Chemistry.  The dependencies of Apache Chemistry include
 activation-1.1.jar and saaj-impl-1.3.jar, both of which seem to be
 from Sun, and are (I believe) covered by the Sun/Oracle license.  I
 was told a while back that activation.jar could not be included in MCF
 for this reason, but that there was a geronimo-activation.jar
 available instead, which is what ManifoldCF uses.  But I don't know
 about saaj-impl.
 
 The recent versions of most of that stuff is CDDL which is OK (category
 b
 license) for shipping the binaries. Definitely use 1.3.2 though:
 
 http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/sun/xml/messaging/saaj/saaj-impl/1.3.2
 /
 
 
 
 Dan
 
 (a) Does anyone know if there's an Apache-licensed replacement for
 saaj-impl? (b) Should somebody tell Chemistry that they may have a
 license problem?
 
 Thanks!
 Karl
 
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Re: Project shutdown guide?

2011-07-08 Thread David Crossley
Daniel Kulp wrote:
 Christian Grobmeier wrote:
  What is with user accounts of people who are not active in other
  apache projects and started at the ASF with the retired project? Are
  the accounts closed too?
  
  Any more ideas?
  
  I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide,
  btw.
 
 +1
 
 I did find this page on the wiki:
 
 http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings
 
 but I definitely think an official guide on the web page would be more 
 appropriate.   

The question came up again recently. I scoured the archives
and found some relevant links to past discussion and
effort on this topic.

Re: process for going Dormant/Retired
http://s.apache.org/oN

It certainly does need collecting into an i.a.o web page.

-David

   * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
   ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
   *** If so, sign off with current date.
   *** If not, remove source.
   
   Hen
   
   On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote:
   Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project?
  On the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation
   guides, etc but not a shutdown/termination guide.

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