Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread adam wojtuniak
+1

Cheers,
Adam


On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:

 It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
 discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
 in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
 now ready for a vote.

 The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal

 The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:

  http://s.apache.org/RMU

 Please cast your votes:

 [  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
 [  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

 This vote will close 72 hours from now.

 Thanks,

 Patrick

 --
 = S4 Proposal =

 == Abstract ==

 S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose,
 distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform
 that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing
 continuous, unbounded streams of data.

 == Proposal ==

 S4 is a software platform written in Java. Clients that send and
 receive events can be written in any programming language. S4 also
 includes a collection of modules called Processing Elements (or PEs
 for short) that implement basic functionality and can be used by
 application developers. In S4, keyed data events are routed with
 affinity to Processing Elements (PEs), which consume the events and do
 one or both of the following: (1) ''emit'' one or more events which
 may be consumed by other PEs, (2) ''publish'' results. The
 architecture resembles the Actors model, providing semantics of
 encapsulation and location transparency, thus allowing applications to
 be massively concurrent while exposing a simple programming  interface
 to application developers.

 To drive adoption and increase the number of contributors to the
 project, we may need to prioritize the focus based on feedback from
 the community. We believe that one of the top priorities and driving
 design principle for the S4 project is to provide a simple API that
 hides most of the complexity associated with distributed systems and
 concurrency. The project grew out of the need to provide a flexible
 platform for application developers and scientists that can be used
 for quick experimentation and production.

 S4 differs from existing Apache projects in a number of fundamental
 ways. Flume is an Incubator project that focuses on log processing,
 performing lightweight processing in a distributed fashion and
 accumulating log data in a centralized repository for batch
 processing. S4 instead performs all stream processing in a distributed
 fashion and enables applications to form arbitrary graphs to process
 streams of events. We see Flume as a complementary project. We also
 expect S4 to complement Hadoop processing and in some cases to
 supersede it. Kafka is another Incubator project that focuses on
 processing large amounts of stream data. The design of Kafka, however,
 follows the pub-sub paradigm, which focuses on delivering messages
 containing arbitrary data from source processes (publishers) to
 consumer processes (subscribers). Compared to S4, Kafka is an
 intermediate step between data generation and processing, while S4 is
 itself a platform for processing streams of events.

 S4 overall addresses a need of existing applications to process
 streams of events beyond moving data to a centralized repository for
 batch processing. It complements the features of existing Apache
 projects, such as Hadoop, Flume, and Kafka, by providing a flexible
 platform for distributed event processing.

 == Background ==

 S4 was initially developed at Yahoo! Labs starting in 2008 to process
 user feedback in the context of search advertising. The project was
 licensed under the Apache License version 2.0 in October 2010. The
 project documentation is currently available at http://s4.io .

 == Rationale ==

 Stream computing has been growing steadily over the last 20 years.
 However, recently there has been an explosion in real-time data
 sources including the Web, sensor networks, financial securities
 analysis and trading, traffic monitoring, natural language processing
 of news and social data, and much more.

 As Hadoop evolved as a standard open source solution for batch
 processing of massive data sets, there is no equivalent community
 supported open source platform for processing data streams in
 real-time. While various research projects have evolved into
 proprietary commercial products, S4 has the potential to fill the gap.
 Many projects that require a scalable stream processing architecture
 currently use Hadoop by segmenting the input stream into data batches.
 This solution is not efficient, results in high latency, and
 introduces unnecessary complexity.

 The S4 design is primarily driven by large scale applications for data
 mining and machine learning in a production environment. We think that
 the S4 design is 

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:
...it seems useful that one person would step forth and
 claim to be the champion of bringing a certain project to the ASF and
 [implicitly] agree to pushing down any artificial process hurdles...

I agree with that, and someone signing up as champion also means they
believe in the podling having its place at Apache, which is a good
thing IMO.

In the simplest case, one of the mentors just signs up as the
champion, so I don't think keeping that notion is complicated or
obsolete.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Ioannis Canellos
Excellent stuff.

I'd like to join.

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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
 ...Please cast your votes:

 [ X] +1 Accept S4 for incubation

...

  * Matthieu Morel (mm at s4 dot io)
  * Anish Nair (an at s4 dot com)...

Shouldn't that be s4 dot io instead?

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 (binding)

2011/9/20 Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org:
 It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
 discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
 in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
 now ready for a vote.

 The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal

 The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:

  http://s.apache.org/RMU

 Please cast your votes:

 [  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
 [  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

 This vote will close 72 hours from now.

 Thanks,

 Patrick

 --
 = S4 Proposal =

 == Abstract ==

 S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose,
 distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform
 that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing
 continuous, unbounded streams of data.

 == Proposal ==

 S4 is a software platform written in Java. Clients that send and
 receive events can be written in any programming language. S4 also
 includes a collection of modules called Processing Elements (or PEs
 for short) that implement basic functionality and can be used by
 application developers. In S4, keyed data events are routed with
 affinity to Processing Elements (PEs), which consume the events and do
 one or both of the following: (1) ''emit'' one or more events which
 may be consumed by other PEs, (2) ''publish'' results. The
 architecture resembles the Actors model, providing semantics of
 encapsulation and location transparency, thus allowing applications to
 be massively concurrent while exposing a simple programming  interface
 to application developers.

 To drive adoption and increase the number of contributors to the
 project, we may need to prioritize the focus based on feedback from
 the community. We believe that one of the top priorities and driving
 design principle for the S4 project is to provide a simple API that
 hides most of the complexity associated with distributed systems and
 concurrency. The project grew out of the need to provide a flexible
 platform for application developers and scientists that can be used
 for quick experimentation and production.

 S4 differs from existing Apache projects in a number of fundamental
 ways. Flume is an Incubator project that focuses on log processing,
 performing lightweight processing in a distributed fashion and
 accumulating log data in a centralized repository for batch
 processing. S4 instead performs all stream processing in a distributed
 fashion and enables applications to form arbitrary graphs to process
 streams of events. We see Flume as a complementary project. We also
 expect S4 to complement Hadoop processing and in some cases to
 supersede it. Kafka is another Incubator project that focuses on
 processing large amounts of stream data. The design of Kafka, however,
 follows the pub-sub paradigm, which focuses on delivering messages
 containing arbitrary data from source processes (publishers) to
 consumer processes (subscribers). Compared to S4, Kafka is an
 intermediate step between data generation and processing, while S4 is
 itself a platform for processing streams of events.

 S4 overall addresses a need of existing applications to process
 streams of events beyond moving data to a centralized repository for
 batch processing. It complements the features of existing Apache
 projects, such as Hadoop, Flume, and Kafka, by providing a flexible
 platform for distributed event processing.

 == Background ==

 S4 was initially developed at Yahoo! Labs starting in 2008 to process
 user feedback in the context of search advertising. The project was
 licensed under the Apache License version 2.0 in October 2010. The
 project documentation is currently available at http://s4.io .

 == Rationale ==

 Stream computing has been growing steadily over the last 20 years.
 However, recently there has been an explosion in real-time data
 sources including the Web, sensor networks, financial securities
 analysis and trading, traffic monitoring, natural language processing
 of news and social data, and much more.

 As Hadoop evolved as a standard open source solution for batch
 processing of massive data sets, there is no equivalent community
 supported open source platform for processing data streams in
 real-time. While various research projects have evolved into
 proprietary commercial products, S4 has the potential to fill the gap.
 Many projects that require a scalable stream processing architecture
 currently use Hadoop by segmenting the input stream into data batches.
 This solution is not efficient, results in high latency, and
 introduces unnecessary complexity.

 The S4 design is primarily driven by large scale applications for data
 mining and machine learning in a production environment. We think that
 the S4 design is surprisingly flexible and lends 

Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

+1 (binding)

Regards
JB

On 09/21/2011 11:04 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

+1 (binding)

2011/9/20 Patrick Huntph...@apache.org:

It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
now ready for a vote.

The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal

The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:

  http://s.apache.org/RMU

Please cast your votes:

[  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
[  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
[  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

This vote will close 72 hours from now.

Thanks,

Patrick

--
= S4 Proposal =

== Abstract ==

S4 (Simple Scalable Streaming System) is a general-purpose,
distributed, scalable, partially fault-tolerant, pluggable platform
that allows programmers to easily develop applications for processing
continuous, unbounded streams of data.

== Proposal ==

S4 is a software platform written in Java. Clients that send and
receive events can be written in any programming language. S4 also
includes a collection of modules called Processing Elements (or PEs
for short) that implement basic functionality and can be used by
application developers. In S4, keyed data events are routed with
affinity to Processing Elements (PEs), which consume the events and do
one or both of the following: (1) ''emit'' one or more events which
may be consumed by other PEs, (2) ''publish'' results. The
architecture resembles the Actors model, providing semantics of
encapsulation and location transparency, thus allowing applications to
be massively concurrent while exposing a simple programming  interface
to application developers.

To drive adoption and increase the number of contributors to the
project, we may need to prioritize the focus based on feedback from
the community. We believe that one of the top priorities and driving
design principle for the S4 project is to provide a simple API that
hides most of the complexity associated with distributed systems and
concurrency. The project grew out of the need to provide a flexible
platform for application developers and scientists that can be used
for quick experimentation and production.

S4 differs from existing Apache projects in a number of fundamental
ways. Flume is an Incubator project that focuses on log processing,
performing lightweight processing in a distributed fashion and
accumulating log data in a centralized repository for batch
processing. S4 instead performs all stream processing in a distributed
fashion and enables applications to form arbitrary graphs to process
streams of events. We see Flume as a complementary project. We also
expect S4 to complement Hadoop processing and in some cases to
supersede it. Kafka is another Incubator project that focuses on
processing large amounts of stream data. The design of Kafka, however,
follows the pub-sub paradigm, which focuses on delivering messages
containing arbitrary data from source processes (publishers) to
consumer processes (subscribers). Compared to S4, Kafka is an
intermediate step between data generation and processing, while S4 is
itself a platform for processing streams of events.

S4 overall addresses a need of existing applications to process
streams of events beyond moving data to a centralized repository for
batch processing. It complements the features of existing Apache
projects, such as Hadoop, Flume, and Kafka, by providing a flexible
platform for distributed event processing.

== Background ==

S4 was initially developed at Yahoo! Labs starting in 2008 to process
user feedback in the context of search advertising. The project was
licensed under the Apache License version 2.0 in October 2010. The
project documentation is currently available at http://s4.io .

== Rationale ==

Stream computing has been growing steadily over the last 20 years.
However, recently there has been an explosion in real-time data
sources including the Web, sensor networks, financial securities
analysis and trading, traffic monitoring, natural language processing
of news and social data, and much more.

As Hadoop evolved as a standard open source solution for batch
processing of massive data sets, there is no equivalent community
supported open source platform for processing data streams in
real-time. While various research projects have evolved into
proprietary commercial products, S4 has the potential to fill the gap.
Many projects that require a scalable stream processing architecture
currently use Hadoop by segmenting the input stream into data batches.
This solution is not efficient, results in high latency, and
introduces unnecessary complexity.

The S4 design is primarily driven by large scale applications for data
mining and machine learning in a production environment. We think that
the S4 design is surprisingly flexible and lends itself to run 

Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:
...it seems useful that one person would step forth and
 claim to be the champion of bringing a certain project to the ASF and
 [implicitly] agree to pushing down any artificial process hurdles...

Why must the name be Champion and not just Mentor?

 I agree with that, and someone signing up as champion also means they
 believe in the podling having its place at Apache, which is a good
 thing IMO.

 In the simplest case, one of the mentors just signs up as the
 champion, so I don't think keeping that notion is complicated or
 obsolete.

Champion is just another term for the first potential mentor who steps up.
I have read what others think (helping with the process, probably help
with the proposal) but I still fail to see why we need another term
for it. Less is beautiful.

Cheers


 -Bertrand

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IP Clearance - transferral or licensing of copyright ownership?

2011-09-21 Thread Sander van der Waal
I'm trying to get my head around the IP clearance process and 
specifically about what happens to the copyright ownership during that 
process. Although IP clearance gets discussed once in a while on this 
list I couldn't find a clear answer in the archives on this specific 
point. 

When a project with a pre-existing code base joins the incubator, does 
the copyright of that code base get transferred to the ASF or will it be 
licensed to the ASF? 

Reading through the IP clearance guide [1], it mentions the Software 
Grant Agreement (SGA) and going to the text [2] it states that it is a 
License Agreement to grant a license to the ASF. Also the CCLA [3] and 
the ICLA [4] are license agreements. I interpret that to mean that the 
copyright ownership remains with the licensor and only a license is 
granted.

On the other hand, the ASF general FAQ states that the copyright of ASF 
projects is owned by the ASF, more specifically The members own the 
code [5]. Also the IP Clearance template [6] has a check that says 
Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF 
been received. But it seems that the SGA and *CLAs are just license
agreements and don't include a transferral of rights? I must be missing
something obvious here but I'm not sure what.

Going through a few NOTICE files of projects doesn't really make it 
clearer, because some only specify the ASF as copyright owner and others 
specify in general terms that it includes software [originally] 
developed at X. 

I know copyright ownership might not be a big deal to many here, but we 
are dealing with many open source projects where the project lead has 
a very strong sense of ownership over the code. Besides educating them 
about the issues I want to make sure I get the facts right.

Sander

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-ip-clearance 
[2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt 
[3] http://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt 
[4] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt 
[5] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#who-owns-apache-code 
[6] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html 


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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Flavio Junqueira

Thanks for pointing it out, Bertrand. I have just fixed it on the wiki.

-Flavio

On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org  
wrote:

...Please cast your votes:

[ X] +1 Accept S4 for incubation


...


 * Matthieu Morel (mm at s4 dot io)
 * Anish Nair (an at s4 dot com)...


Shouldn't that be s4 dot io instead?

-Bertrand

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why must the name be Champion and not just Mentor?

Because Champion is an aptly name for the role.

 champion is just another term for the first potential mentor who steps up.

It is the correct name for that role:

champion |ˈCHampēən| noun
1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
esp. in sports:
2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else:

The correct usage is of course definition #2

 I have read what others think (helping with the process, probably help
 with the proposal) but I still fail to see why we need another term
 for it. Less is beautiful.

Beautiful is in the eye of the beholder. Less is definitely not always
beautiful. See for example [1]: less classes.

Identifying and correctly naming roles is very important—especially in
an environment as the incubator.

Martijn

[1] https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/blog/2011/one-base-class-to-rule-them-all

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 champion |ˈCHampēən| noun
 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 esp. in sports:
 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else:

 The correct usage is of course definition #2

What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
speaking to the general list on their own.

The arguments I heard for a Champion were understanding the initial
process or passing the process hurdles. In addition to somebody
from the ASF need to show interest.

(mĕn'tôr', -tər)
1) A wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
2) Mentor Greek Mythology. Odysseus's trusted counselor, in whose
guise Athena became the guardian and teacher of Telemachus.

#1 applies. the projects I have seen needed counseling, not somebody
who fight for their case.
If you can find a first mentor, you can prove that somebody has an interest.

 I have read what others think (helping with the process, probably help
 with the proposal) but I still fail to see why we need another term
 for it. Less is beautiful.

 Beautiful is in the eye of the beholder. Less is definitely not always
 beautiful. See for example [1]: less classes.

I agree here.

 Identifying and correctly naming roles is very important—especially in
 an environment as the incubator.

Thats exact. Thats why I doubt the sense of a Champion.
It is already confusing and a hard entry barrier to find a Champion.
Where can you find one? Why do I need it? Can I ask on the
mailinglist? Then I need to outline my idea, which is going pretty
near to have a draft proposal (actually I have heard people say
something like that).

It would be easier if every potential podling must fill the Proposal
form and ask for an initial mentor on the incubator list, once
completed. It is only one form and one e-mail. I still can't see why a
Champion is necessary.

Anyway, cheers
Christian



 Martijn

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 champion |ˈCHampēən| noun
 1 a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition,
 esp. in sports:
 2 a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else:

 The correct usage is of course definition #2

 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
 speaking to the general list on their own.

The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
mentors and other interested parties.

 The arguments I heard for a Champion were understanding the initial
 process or passing the process hurdles. In addition to somebody
 from the ASF need to show interest.

 (mĕn'tôr', -tər)
 1) A wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
 2) Mentor Greek Mythology. Odysseus's trusted counselor, in whose
 guise Athena became the guardian and teacher of Telemachus.

 #1 applies. the projects I have seen needed counseling, not somebody
 who fight for their case.
 If you can find a first mentor, you can prove that somebody has an interest.

A mentor guides the podling through the incubation. A champion guides
the podling into the incubator. Big difference and not confusing at
all.

Martijn

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
 speaking to the general list on their own.

 The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
 mentors and other interested parties.

The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a Sponsor.
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion

This is how the Champion role is defined. The default Sponsor is the
Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to
look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would
sponsor this new podling. Imho this should be discussed on the
general@ list, when a Draft proposal is there.

 #1 applies. the projects I have seen needed counseling, not somebody
 who fight for their case.
 If you can find a first mentor, you can prove that somebody has an interest.

 A mentor guides the podling through the incubation. A champion guides
 the podling into the incubator. Big difference and not confusing at
 all.

Confusion is in the eye of the beholder too.
I am not sure what is wrong with make a draft proposal and ask for
help on general@ and why there must be a role for that.

But it seems I am the only one who does not see any sense in it, so I
shut up now.

If folks here want to keep the Champion for whatever reasons, I
suggest to update the description a little bit and be more concrete on
what is expected from a Champion and how one can find a Champion.

Cheers
Christian

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread sebb
On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
 speaking to the general list on their own.

 The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
 mentors and other interested parties.

 The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a Sponsor.
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion

 This is how the Champion role is defined. The default Sponsor is the
 Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to
 look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would
 sponsor this new podling.

Also, the Champion makes sure the discussion phase is wrapped up and
turned into a vote; ensures the vote is tallied etc.

These can of course be done by others, but having one person
responsible is generally easier, and less likely to result in omission
or duplication.

By the way, the Champion does not seem to be listed on the podling
status pages or summary.

I'm not sure if that is an omission, or whether it's because the
Champion's role is over once the podling has been created (if that is
so).

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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Julien Vermillard
+1 (binding)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Flavio Junqueira f...@s4.io wrote:
 Thanks for pointing it out, Bertrand. I have just fixed it on the wiki.

 -Flavio

 On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:

 ...Please cast your votes:

 [ X] +1 Accept S4 for incubation

 ...

  * Matthieu Morel (mm at s4 dot io)
  * Anish Nair (an at s4 dot com)...

 Shouldn't that be s4 dot io instead?

 -Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Tim Williams
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
 It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
 discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
 in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
 now ready for a vote.

 The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal

 The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:

  http://s.apache.org/RMU

 Please cast your votes:

 [  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
 [  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

+1

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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
+1 (non binding) great project

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
  It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
  discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
  in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
  now ready for a vote.
 
  The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:
 
   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal
 
  The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:
 
   http://s.apache.org/RMU
 
  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
  [  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
  [  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

 +1

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
 speaking to the general list on their own.

 The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
 mentors and other interested parties.

 The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a 
 Sponsor.
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion

 This is how the Champion role is defined. The default Sponsor is the
 Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to
 look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would
 sponsor this new podling.

 Also, the Champion makes sure the discussion phase is wrapped up and
 turned into a vote; ensures the vote is tallied etc.

This might be true, but it is implicit knowledge, which is leading to
confusion. If nobody wants to get rid of this term (except me), we
should do an update of the Champion description.

I would like to add this image in addition:
http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

Because an image does say more than thousand words...

cheers,
Christian


 These can of course be done by others, but having one person
 responsible is generally easier, and less likely to result in omission
 or duplication.

 By the way, the Champion does not seem to be listed on the podling
 status pages or summary.

 I'm not sure if that is an omission, or whether it's because the
 Champion's role is over once the podling has been created (if that is
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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
...If nobody wants to get rid of this term (except me), we
 should do an update of the Champion description.

 I would like to add this image in addition:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

I like it - I'd just say mentors, plural, in the reddish box on the right.

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 I would like to add this image in addition:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

 I like it - I'd just say mentors, plural, in the reddish box on the right.

Agreed, I have changed it local and wait if there are more comments


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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Francis De Brabandere
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like to add this image in addition:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

 I like it - I'd just say mentors, plural, in the reddish box on the right.

 Agreed, I have changed it local and wait if there are more comments

+1 we should have more of these graphs, like for the release process
(also keep the image source file for later modifications!)

Cheers,
Francis



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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread sebb
On 21 September 2011 15:12, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:21 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 21 September 2011 11:57, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the cause he actually fights/argues for? New folks are
 speaking to the general list on their own.

 The cause is getting the podling accepted in the incubator, finding
 mentors and other interested parties.

 The Champion assists the candidate on their initial submission to a 
 Sponsor.
 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion

 This is how the Champion role is defined. The default Sponsor is the
 Apache Incubator - no big deal. The only thing a Champion does is to
 look at the projects list and try to contact a project if it would
 sponsor this new podling.

 Also, the Champion makes sure the discussion phase is wrapped up and
 turned into a vote; ensures the vote is tallied etc.

 This might be true, but it is implicit knowledge, which is leading to
 confusion. If nobody wants to get rid of this term (except me), we
 should do an update of the Champion description.

 I would like to add this image in addition:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

 Because an image does say more than thousand words...

Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.

Also, the Champion may not need to be recruited; some potential
podlings are introduced by the Champion.


 cheers,
 Christian


 These can of course be done by others, but having one person
 responsible is generally easier, and less likely to result in omission
 or duplication.

 By the way, the Champion does not seem to be listed on the podling
 status pages or summary.

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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 I would like to add this image in addition:
 http://code.grobmeier.de/howtobecomeanasfproject.pdf

 Because an image does say more than thousand words...

 Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
 Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.

So whats the name for Podling before it becomes one? Simply project?

 Also, the Champion may not need to be recruited; some potential
 podlings are introduced by the Champion.

In any way, either
- the Champion asks the podling to become an ASF project
- the podling looks for a Champion to become an ASF project

A collective of people who want to create a project from scratch I
consider already a project.

I will rename the aquire term to team up and make the arrow
looking in both sides.

Does this then reflect your suggestion?

Cheers


 cheers,
 Christian


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 or duplication.

 By the way, the Champion does not seem to be listed on the podling
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Re: [VOTE] S4 to join the Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Patrick Hunt
+1 (binding)

Patrick

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Raffaele P. Guidi
raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 (non binding) great project

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote:
  It's been a nearly a week since the S4 proposal was submitted for
  discussion.  A few questions were asked, and the proposal was clarified
  in response.  Sufficient mentors have volunteered.  I thus feel we are
  now ready for a vote.
 
  The latest proposal can be found at the end of this email and at:
 
   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal
 
  The discussion regarding the proposal can be found at:
 
   http://s.apache.org/RMU
 
  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ] +1 Accept S4 for incubation
  [  ] +0 Indifferent to S4 incubation
  [  ] -1 Reject S4 for incubation

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Re: IP Clearance - transferral or licensing of copyright ownership?

2011-09-21 Thread Donald Whytock
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Sander van der Waal
sander.vanderw...@oucs.ox.ac.uk wrote:
 On the other hand, the ASF general FAQ states that the copyright of ASF
 projects is owned by the ASF, more specifically The members own the
 code [5]. Also the IP Clearance template [6] has a check that says
 Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
 been received. But it seems that the SGA and *CLAs are just license
 agreements and don't include a transferral of rights? I must be missing
 something obvious here but I'm not sure what.

 [5] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#who-owns-apache-code
 [6] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html

ianal
Actually, [5] says, All software developed within the Foundation
belongs to the ASF, and therefore the members.  Software contributed
to the ASF would not, I would think, count as developed within.

On the other hand, code contributed through the SGA conveys a
non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable  copyright license
to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly
perform, distribute and sublicense, internally and externally, the
Software. [6] I would think that this means the moment ASF makes any
change at all to a contribution -- including adding an ASF copyright
notice -- that makes it a derivative work, developed within the ASF,
and therefore belonging to its members.

And the spirit of the SGA seems to sufficiently express this that
people contributing under the SGA thereby express consent for it to
happen.  The only time this would not be the case is if the
contributor is contributing something he has no right to so
contribute.  That isn't a fault of the SGA.
/ianal

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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Ioannis,
welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the proposal!

Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
I would be glad to have you aboard.

R

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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github
(come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe tornare
comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci vorrà
tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che previsioni
hai?

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 Hi Ioannis,
 welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
 proposal!

 Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
 Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
 Simo

 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://www.99soft.org/



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  I'd like to join.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
Ooops sorry, wrong address and wrong language :P

2011/9/21 Raffaele P. Guidi raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com

 Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github
 (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe tornare
 comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci vorrà
 tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che previsioni
 hai?


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 simonetrip...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Ioannis,
 welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
 proposal!

 Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
 Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
 Simo

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 http://www.99soft.org/



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  I'd like to join.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Si senor Mi piace bere vino e birra

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Raffaele P. Guidi
raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github
 (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe tornare
 comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci vorrà
 tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che previsioni
 hai?

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Simone Tripodi 
 simonetrip...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Ioannis,
 welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
 proposal!

 Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
 Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
 Simo

 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://www.99soft.org/



 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Ioannis Canellos ioca...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Excellent stuff.
 
  I'd like to join.
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Akash Ashok
Really Cool Stuff  Sounds great :)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Raffaele P. Guidi 
raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github
 (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe
 tornare
 comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci vorrà
 tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che previsioni
 hai?

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Simone Tripodi simonetrip...@apache.org
 wrote:

  Hi Ioannis,
  welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
  proposal!
 
  Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
  Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
  Simo
 
  http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
  http://www.99soft.org/
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Ioannis Canellos ioca...@gmail.com
  wrote:
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   I'd like to join.
  
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Re: IP Clearance - transferral or licensing of copyright ownership?

2011-09-21 Thread Donald Whytock
Apologies...shouldn't have cited [6]. Meant to cite [2]:

[2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt

Good thing IANAL.

Don

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Sander van der Waal
 sander.vanderw...@oucs.ox.ac.uk wrote:
 On the other hand, the ASF general FAQ states that the copyright of ASF
 projects is owned by the ASF, more specifically The members own the
 code [5]. Also the IP Clearance template [6] has a check that says
 Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF
 been received. But it seems that the SGA and *CLAs are just license
 agreements and don't include a transferral of rights? I must be missing
 something obvious here but I'm not sure what.

 [5] http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#who-owns-apache-code
 [6] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html

 ianal
 Actually, [5] says, All software developed within the Foundation
 belongs to the ASF, and therefore the members.  Software contributed
 to the ASF would not, I would think, count as developed within.

 On the other hand, code contributed through the SGA conveys a
 non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable  copyright license
 to reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly
 perform, distribute and sublicense, internally and externally, the
 Software. [6] I would think that this means the moment ASF makes any
 change at all to a contribution -- including adding an ASF copyright
 notice -- that makes it a derivative work, developed within the ASF,
 and therefore belonging to its members.

 And the spirit of the SGA seems to sufficiently express this that
 people contributing under the SGA thereby express consent for it to
 happen.  The only time this would not be the case is if the
 contributor is contributing something he has no right to so
 contribute.  That isn't a fault of the SGA.
 /ianal

 Don


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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Simone Tripodi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Si senor Mi piace bere vino e birra


ROFL :D don't you like pizza, spaghetti and gelato? ;)

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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
Lol,
just for a moment I thought to have some super power, something like
the bionic eyes which allow me to see the translated version of every
foreign text.

Maurizio Cucchiara



On 21 September 2011 18:44, Raffaele P. Guidi
raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di github
 (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe tornare
 comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci vorrà
 tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che previsioni
 hai?

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Simone Tripodi 
 simonetrip...@apache.orgwrote:

 Hi Ioannis,
 welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
 proposal!

 Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
 Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
 Simo

 http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
 http://www.99soft.org/



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  Excellent stuff.
 
  I'd like to join.
 
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  FuseSource http://fusesource.com
 
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  Blog: http://iocanel.blogspot.com
  **
  Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer  PMC
  Apache ServiceMix http://servicemix.apache.org/  Committer
  Apache Gora http://incubator.apache.org/gora/ Committer
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Re: [DISCUSS] DirectMemory to join the Apache Incubator

2011-09-21 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
I will ask to change my apache ID in italianspammer :P Sorry again.

Cheers,
Raffaele

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara
mcucchi...@apache.orgwrote:

 Lol,
 just for a moment I thought to have some super power, something like
 the bionic eyes which allow me to see the translated version of every
 foreign text.

 Maurizio Cucchiara



 On 21 September 2011 18:44, Raffaele P. Guidi
 raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sto inserendo spunti e idee come enhancement nell'issue tracking di
 github
  (come ho sempre fatto) e pensavo anche che un gruppo google potrebbe
 tornare
  comodo, visto che stiamo diventando tanti - ovviamente però se non ci
 vorrà
  tanto per avere jira e mailing list apache lascio perdere... che
 previsioni
  hai?
 
  On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Simone Tripodi 
 simonetrip...@apache.orgwrote:
 
  Hi Ioannis,
  welcome onboard! I added you in the initial committers list in the
  proposal!
 
  Otis, are you with us too? I hope so! :)
  Many thanks in advance, have a nice day!
  Simo
 
  http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
  http://www.99soft.org/
 
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Ioannis Canellos ioca...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Excellent stuff.
  
   I'd like to join.
  
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   *Ioannis Canellos*
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Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions

2011-09-21 Thread David Crossley
Christian Grobmeier wrote:
 
  Surely a podling does not exist until it enters incubation?
  Beforehand, it is just a proposal to create a podling.
 
 So whats the name for Podling before it becomes one? Simply project?

As suggested above Proposal. Or this 
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html
calls it Candidate.

-David

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Gora 0.1.1-incubating release rc4

2011-09-21 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Incubator community,

Ping: does anyone have time for a quick review of this RC? I'd love to push it 
out 
to the mirrors soon: it's been a long time coming. We need 1 more IPMC VOTE.

Cheers,
Chris

On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:

 Hi Incubator community,
 
 The Gora podling has VOTE'd to release 0.1.1-incubating. We need 1 more 
 IPMC VOTE.
 
 Here's a link to the original VOTE thread: http://s.apache.org/UfY
 
 Comments, VOTEs, welcome! I'll leave it open for 72 hours.
 
 Cheers,
 Chris
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov
 Date: September 15, 2011 8:48:03 PM PDT
 To: gora-...@incubator.apache.org gora-...@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Gora 0.1.1-incubating release rc4
 Reply-To: gora-...@incubator.apache.org gora-...@incubator.apache.org, 
 gora-...@incubator.apache.org gora-...@incubator.apache.org
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Okey dok, this VOTE has passed with the following tallies:
 
 +1 PPMC
 Henry Saputra
 Ioannis Canellos
 
 -1 PPMC
 Alexis de Tréglodé
 
 +1 IPMC
 Chris Mattmann
 Julien Nioche
 
 +1 Community
 Lewis John McGibbney
 
 Per Incubator policy, I will now forward the message to 
 general@incubator.apache.org. 
 We need 1 more IPMC member to cast their +1 to make the VOTE official.
 
 Cheers,
 Chris
 
 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
 ++
 
 
 
 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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