Re: VXQuery Mentors
Thanks Jukka. Looking forward to your mail to vxquery-private with the +1 vote so that we can move forward the administrative tasks involved with making Preston a committer. On 7/2/12 3:03 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: We had started a vote (on 05/26/2012) to bring on board a new committer (Preston Carman) who has been submitting high-quality patches. While the vote got +1s from all the current VXQuery committers (four of us), we have not heard from any of our mentors. So the vote itself is stuck. I looked at the vote and the candidate and everything looks good to me, so I'll send my +1 to vxquery-private@ to close the loop. That'll be enough to make the vote pass as mentioned in [1]: To be successful the vote requires at least one +1 from a podling mentor, or, if no mentors are available, from an Incubator PMC member. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+new+committer I am not sure what we should do at this time. Any guidance will be appreciated. You'll need new mentors to help you through the rest of the incubation process. I notice one of your committers, Cezar Andrei, is an ASF member and the PMC chair of XMLBeans, so if he's interested I think he'd be a great candidate to take over at least some of the mentor tasks. Anyone else interested in helping VXQuery? BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache Stanbol Entityhub 0.10.0-incubating
Dear Incubator, this vote is still open and we are looking for at least one more vote from an IPMC member to pass. Would be great if someone finds the time to verify the release. - Fabian *(Sent from my mobile. Sorry for typos.) Am 29.06.2012 08:46 schrieb Fabian Christ christ.fab...@gmail.com: Hi, we are in need of at least one more IPMC vote to get this release out. It would be great if someone finds the time to check before the weekend. Thanks, - Fabian 2012/6/26 Fabian Christ christ.fab...@googlemail.com: 2012/6/26 sebb seb...@gmail.com: Where is the SVN tag for the release? Here are the SVN tags. - source-assembly-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/source-assembly-0.10.0-incubating - stanbol-parent-1-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/stanbol-parent-1-incubating - org.apache.stanbol.commons.solr.core-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/org.apache.stanbol.commons.solr.core-0.10.0-incubating - org.apache.stanbol.commons.web.base-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/org.apache.stanbol.commons.web.base-0.10.0-incubating - org.apache.stanbol.data.parent-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/org.apache.stanbol.data.parent-0.10.0-incubating - org.apache.stanbol.data.sites.dbpedia-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/org.apache.stanbol.data.sites.dbpedia-1.0.4-incubating - apache-stanbol-entityhub-0.10.0-incubating tag: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/tags/apache-stanbol-entityhub-0.10.0-incubating To check that the released artifacts match those tags, you can use the mentioned script $ check_release_matches_tag.sh 257 /tmp -- Fabian http://twitter.com/fctwitt
Re: VXQuery Mentors
Hi, I already sent my +1, though it may be stuck in vxquery-private@ moderation queue. Anyway, here's another +1 to unblock you: +1 to grant VXQuery committership to Preston Carman BR, Jukka Zitting 3.7.2012 9.42 Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com kirjoitti: Thanks Jukka. Looking forward to your mail to vxquery-private with the +1 vote so that we can move forward the administrative tasks involved with making Preston a committer. On 7/2/12 3:03 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: We had started a vote (on 05/26/2012) to bring on board a new committer (Preston Carman) who has been submitting high-quality patches. While the vote got +1s from all the current VXQuery committers (four of us), we have not heard from any of our mentors. So the vote itself is stuck. I looked at the vote and the candidate and everything looks good to me, so I'll send my +1 to vxquery-private@ to close the loop. That'll be enough to make the vote pass as mentioned in [1]: To be successful the vote requires at least one +1 from a podling mentor, or, if no mentors are available, from an Incubator PMC member. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/**guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+** new+committerhttp://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+new+committer I am not sure what we should do at this time. Any guidance will be appreciated. You'll need new mentors to help you through the rest of the incubation process. I notice one of your committers, Cezar Andrei, is an ASF member and the PMC chair of XMLBeans, so if he's interested I think he'd be a great candidate to take over at least some of the mentor tasks. Anyone else interested in helping VXQuery? BR, Jukka Zitting --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Preparing for July report
On 02/07/2012 23:52, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Francesco Chicchiriccò ilgro...@apache.org wrote: It is the list of podlings that need to *prepare* their report in July in order to be able to report in August. Yes, that's the way it's most useful. However, to reduce the amount of potential confusion, it might be a good idea to replace the ... in July 2012 bit in the heading with ... for August 2012 (and so on for future months). Done: it seems that ant-driven XSLT transformation has some issues with java extensions, hence I couldn't use a cleaner Calendar.add() for getting next month but I had to revert to a bare xsl:choose; anyway, it should be working (just re-published). Regards. -- Francesco Chicchiriccò ASF Member, Apache Cocoon PMC and Apache Syncope PPMC Member http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: VXQuery Mentors
Thanks Jukka. On 7/3/12 1:07 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, I already sent my +1, though it may be stuck in vxquery-private@ moderation queue. Anyway, here's another +1 to unblock you: +1 to grant VXQuery committership to Preston Carman BR, Jukka Zitting 3.7.2012 9.42 Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com kirjoitti: Thanks Jukka. Looking forward to your mail to vxquery-private with the +1 vote so that we can move forward the administrative tasks involved with making Preston a committer. On 7/2/12 3:03 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: We had started a vote (on 05/26/2012) to bring on board a new committer (Preston Carman) who has been submitting high-quality patches. While the vote got +1s from all the current VXQuery committers (four of us), we have not heard from any of our mentors. So the vote itself is stuck. I looked at the vote and the candidate and everything looks good to me, so I'll send my +1 to vxquery-private@ to close the loop. That'll be enough to make the vote pass as mentioned in [1]: To be successful the vote requires at least one +1 from a podling mentor, or, if no mentors are available, from an Incubator PMC member. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/**guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+** new+committerhttp://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Voting+in+a+new+committer I am not sure what we should do at this time. Any guidance will be appreciated. You'll need new mentors to help you through the rest of the incubation process. I notice one of your committers, Cezar Andrei, is an ASF member and the PMC chair of XMLBeans, so if he's interested I think he'd be a great candidate to take over at least some of the mentor tasks. Anyone else interested in helping VXQuery? BR, Jukka Zitting --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Fwd: [VOTE][RESULT] Preston Carman as committer
Jukka, Here is the final vote tally. I am sorry to bother you again with this request. But in lieu of our mentors, can you or someone else in the IPMC please perform the process documented at [1] to add Preston as a committer? [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter Thanks, Vinayak Original Message Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Preston Carman as committer Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 01:47:47 -0700 From: Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com Reply-To: vxquery-priv...@incubator.apache.org To: vxquery-priv...@incubator.apache.org We started a vote to add Preston Carman as a committer to the VXQuery project. It has passed with the following results: From VXQuery PPMC: Cezar Andrei: +1 Vinayak Borkar: +1 Michael Carey: +1 Till Westmann: +1 From IPMC: Jukka Zitting: +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Preston Carman as committer
Hi, [It's best to avoid cross-posting between private and public lists. Replying only on general@] On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is the final vote tally. I am sorry to bother you again with this request. But in lieu of our mentors, can you or someone else in the IPMC please perform the process documented at [1] to add Preston as a committer? Sure, just let me know which username Preston wants once you've invited him and made sure he has a CLA on file. I can take care of making the account request for you. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Any23 - This is very cool. I want to try it out. It is already an active community and looks it is growing. It is making progress to being an important part of the Semantic Web. As I write this there is a Release VOTE starting on the any23-dev ML. Sounds great! Assuming they get the release out, what's the feeling on their status in terms of other graduation criteria? Are they ready to start preparing for graduation, or is more community building still needed? EasyAnt - There has been very little activity all this year. Only one committer active. This email[1] points out the community's difficulty with the loss of a key part of the codebase requiring a refactoring that no one has quite found the time to finish. Hope has been expressed that recent commit activity might be showing a startup in activity. A look at the archive shows very early promise but only sporadic activity after the first few months. Retirement to Attic, to Ant, to Ivy? Another month? What more activity would the IPMC ask for? I'd like to see the community come up with a concrete graduation plan, one that either targets becoming a subproject of Ant or Ivy, or outlines how the community expects to grow to a more sustainable level of activity and diversity. If such a plan or other increase in activity is not forthcoming, we'll need to consider retiring the project. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Fediz for the Apache Incubator
Hi Jean... I added myself, lets go for a [VOTE] :) On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.netwrote: Hi all, To be able to start a formal vote, we need an additional mentor. Is someone interested ? Thanks, Regards JB On 11/11/2011 11:49 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Thanks for the update Marcel, and sorry for the late answer. I updated the Fediz proposal with your comment. Thanks again, Regards JB On 11/03/2011 12:40 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/FedizProposalhttp://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FedizProposal Definitely an interesting proposal! Just a comment on the affiliations section: isn't it true that both Olivier Lamy and Colm O'hEigeartaigh are also working for Talend? Of course part of the incubation process will be to attract other developers, I just think it's fair to list affiliations for all initial committers. Greetings, Marcel --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Fediz for the Apache Incubator
Hi Mohammad, the proposal has been retired as Fediz is now a subproject of Apache CXF. Thanks anyway for your proposal ! Regards JB On 07/03/2012 12:37 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Jean... I added myself, lets go for a [VOTE] :) On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.netwrote: Hi all, To be able to start a formal vote, we need an additional mentor. Is someone interested ? Thanks, Regards JB On 11/11/2011 11:49 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Thanks for the update Marcel, and sorry for the late answer. I updated the Fediz proposal with your comment. Thanks again, Regards JB On 11/03/2011 12:40 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/FedizProposalhttp://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FedizProposal Definitely an interesting proposal! Just a comment on the affiliations section: isn't it true that both Olivier Lamy and Colm O'hEigeartaigh are also working for Talend? Of course part of the incubation process will be to attract other developers, I just think it's fair to list affiliations for all initial committers. Greetings, Marcel --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Fediz for the Apache Incubator
ROFL Sorry I was checking my old e-mails and I didn't notice the date :D what a dump reply did I send :D On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.netwrote: Hi Mohammad, the proposal has been retired as Fediz is now a subproject of Apache CXF. Thanks anyway for your proposal ! Regards JB On 07/03/2012 12:37 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Jean... I added myself, lets go for a [VOTE] :) On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi all, To be able to start a formal vote, we need an additional mentor. Is someone interested ? Thanks, Regards JB On 11/11/2011 11:49 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: Thanks for the update Marcel, and sorry for the late answer. I updated the Fediz proposal with your comment. Thanks again, Regards JB On 11/03/2011 12:40 PM, Marcel Offermans wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FedizProposalhttp://wiki.apache.org/**incubator/FedizProposal http:/**/wiki.apache.org/incubator/**FedizProposalhttp://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FedizProposal Definitely an interesting proposal! Just a comment on the affiliations section: isn't it true that both Olivier Lamy and Colm O'hEigeartaigh are also working for Talend? Of course part of the incubation process will be to attract other developers, I just think it's fair to list affiliations for all initial committers. Greetings, Marcel --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org general-**unsubscribe@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.** **orggeneral-help@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com --** --**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org general-**unsubscribe@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org general-help@incubator.**apache.org general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.orggeneral-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**orggeneral-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein
Re: Shepherding: chukwa, mesos, directmemory
Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Chuckwa looks pretty normal; report in place, traffic on mailing list. I don't see any particular cause for concern. It's one of our podlings that is all set except for not having added committers. Mentors, do you think they could graduate anyhow? I was thinking that it should go into the Hadoop as a subproject or to the attic. I see one developer valiantly holding the fort. Great guy. Nice body of code. Not a lot of developers working on it. I notice the report mentions patches from new contributors. Should some of them be granted committership? I'd recommend keeping the entry barrier low for new committers especially if there isn't much activity otherwise. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding: chukwa, mesos, directmemory
On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: Chuckwa looks pretty normal; report in place, traffic on mailing list. I don't see any particular cause for concern. It's one of our podlings that is all set except for not having added committers. Mentors, do you think they could graduate anyhow? I was thinking that it should go into the Hadoop as a subproject or to the attic. I see one developer valiantly holding the fort. Great guy. Nice body of code. Not a lot of developers working on it. I notice the report mentions patches from new contributors. Should some of them be granted committership? I'd recommend keeping the entry barrier low for new committers especially if there isn't much activity otherwise. Eric claims five new contributors submitting patches since April and I only count 3 people submitting 4 patches. The patches are non-trivial. So the idea is to give the contributors committership and hope things take off? Eric does want to make one more release. Maybe that will churn some enthusiasm. Eric is very tenacious about keeping it open and he is very timely with the mailing list discussions and submitted patches. I'm inclined to give it another shot but I'm wondering what criteria do we use to decide that we've done all we've can. Regards, Alan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding: chukwa, mesos, directmemory
Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: So the idea is to give the contributors committership and hope things take off? Seems like a good idea to me, especially if Chukwa hasn't tried doing that before. Eric does want to make one more release. Maybe that will churn some enthusiasm. Eric is very tenacious about keeping it open and he is very timely with the mailing list discussions and submitted patches. Not sure if it's the case here (I don't follow Chukwa in detail), but I know some projects where a highly active lead developer has actually held back the community even though he had all the best intentions in mind. Instead of directly jumping in and fixing issues that people encounter, it's often a better long-term idea to help them come up with a solution themselves. That approach obviously doesn't work with all users, but with some such empowerment can be highly rewarding. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. [*] I'm inclined to give it another shot but I'm wondering what criteria do we use to decide that we've done all we've can. I guess the best criteria is when people run out of ideas or the energy to implement them. Basically incubation of a project makes sense for as long as there's ongoing progress towards graduation. Once progress is no longer being made, it's time for a podling to exit the Incubator in one way or another. [*] Apparently originally by Anne Isabella Ritchie in 1885 (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/give-a-man-a-fish.html), though the proverb is widely attributed to various other sources ranging from the Bible to Tao Te Ching. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding: chukwa, mesos, directmemory
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's the case here (I don't follow Chukwa in detail), but I know some projects where a highly active lead developer has actually held back the community even though he had all the best intentions in mind. Instead of directly jumping in and fixing issues that people encounter, it's often a better long-term idea to help them come up with a solution themselves. +1 Supplying an elaborate recipe for fixing a bug or implementing a feature and actively soliciting a patch can be more effective at engaging a potential contributor than committing it yourself. Basically, give them 75% of the patch but then leave them hanging so that they have to take action to get their concern addressed. Not everyone wants to be a core contributor, so things won't always work out. And if you think the feature or bug fix is important, at some point you have to give up on the recruitment effort and just finish it yourself. But it's worthwhile to hold off for a few weeks if you can. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: svn commit: r1354707 - /incubator/public/trunk/content/projects/allura.xml
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 28, 2012 3:26 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: David Crossley wrote: Sorry Rich, that extra information in the mailing lists section cannot be parsed by Clutch. Perhaps move it to the News section. Also, the tracker is the eventual ASF tracker that is intended. There is no requirement to run the issue tracker on ASF hardware, so the link to SF.net is just fine. The requirement derives from the Apache License which states: issue tracking systems that are managed by, or on behalf of, the Licensor for the purpose of discussing and improving the Work My hope is that we find a way to host the Allura issue tracker here, but failing that we will need to ensure that it is unambiguously clear to anybody that finds their way to that page that the issue tracker is managed on behalf of the Apache Allura (incubating) project. I don't believe that the following page currently does that: http://sourceforge.net/p/allura/tickets/ I've added text on that page to clearly state that now. We (SourceForge) also have tickets in there regarding non-Allura work that our team works on. When we move the tickets to an apache-hosted allura instance, we'll need to separate them. -- Dave Brondsema Principal Software Engineer - sf.net Geeknet -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
Le 3 juil. 2012 à 11:49, Jukka Zitting a écrit : EasyAnt - There has been very little activity all this year. Only one committer active. This email[1] points out the community's difficulty with the loss of a key part of the codebase requiring a refactoring that no one has quite found the time to finish. Hope has been expressed that recent commit activity might be showing a startup in activity. A look at the archive shows very early promise but only sporadic activity after the first few months. Retirement to Attic, to Ant, to Ivy? Another month? What more activity would the IPMC ask for? I'd like to see the community come up with a concrete graduation plan, one that either targets becoming a subproject of Ant or Ivy, or outlines how the community expects to grow to a more sustainable level of activity and diversity. If such a plan or other increase in activity is not forthcoming, we'll need to consider retiring the project. The primary target for Easyant will be being a subproject of Ant. The Ant PMC is sponsoring the project [1]. I happen to be on both side, Ant and Easyant. And the development on EasyAnt often means patching Ant. So there would not be better fit I guess. We are indeed struggling with being active, we know it is an issue. But we still have hope. cheers, Nicolas [1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/EasyAntProposal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org wrote: The primary target for Easyant will be being a subproject of Ant. Is there something that the Incubator can do for EasyAnt that the Ant PMC can't? If not, I don't see a need to wait for this to happen. When graduating into an existing TLP, that TLP and its PMC will take over responsibility over the codebase. The usual Incubator graduation criteria don't apply as the existing TLP already meets all of them. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
Hi, Firstly I would like to say hello to Dave and a thank you for stepping up/being elected/whatever the process was to get involved with Any23 as the much appreciated Shepherd. It would be really great if you could get in list and introduce yourself to the community, as you mention the project is picking up pace and this would only help imho. Please see my personal comments below. Thank you On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Any23 - This is very cool. I want to try it out. It is already an active community and looks it is growing. It is making progress to being an important part of the Semantic Web. As I write this there is a Release VOTE starting on the any23-dev ML. +1 Sounds great! Assuming they get the release out, what's the feeling on their status in terms of other graduation criteria? Are they ready to start preparing for graduation, or is more community building still needed? Although Any23 presence within the ASF is sponsored via Tika PMC I am not sure what our aspirations are regarding the future... Integration into Tikaland either as a subproject or full on integration is however a conversation which began and fizzled out sometime ago [0]. Regarding additional graduation criteria 1) Get 0.7.0-incubating release, and more importantly the release porocess absolutely nailed. Simone Tripodi has lead this one from the outset and he quoted the other day that his intention was that Any23 PPMC member should now be able to act as release manager. 2) We recently welcomed Peter Ansell PPMC and Committership. Peter had some nice ideas w.r.t refactoring of codebase to simplify modularity... this DOES NOT block graduation 3) Michele Mostarda has viewed his opinions in improving parsers as per W3C spec... this DOES NOT block graduation I would be really keen to find out from a mentor/shepherd POV what does block graduations... I would however like to hear this post 0.7.0-incubating (1st since entering incubator) release. I hope I've contributed to this conversation somewhat. Thank you lewis [0] http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=graduation+tika+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.any23-dev#query:graduation%20tika%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.any23-dev+page:1+mid:vc2isc7haa6ux3he+state:results - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
Hey Lewis, Thanks, my comments inline below: On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote: Hi, Firstly I would like to say hello to Dave and a thank you for stepping up/being elected/whatever the process was to get involved with Any23 as the much appreciated Shepherd. It would be really great if you could get in list and introduce yourself to the community, as you mention the project is picking up pace and this would only help imho. Please see my personal comments below. Thank you On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Any23 - This is very cool. I want to try it out. It is already an active community and looks it is growing. It is making progress to being an important part of the Semantic Web. As I write this there is a Release VOTE starting on the any23-dev ML. +1 Sounds great! Assuming they get the release out, what's the feeling on their status in terms of other graduation criteria? Are they ready to start preparing for graduation, or is more community building still needed? Although Any23 presence within the ASF is sponsored via Tika PMC I am not sure what our aspirations are regarding the future... Integration into Tikaland either as a subproject or full on integration is however a conversation which began and fizzled out sometime ago [0]. At this point, I think it would be fine (and the Tika PMC would be fine) with Any23 graduating to its own project but perhaps when there is consensus within the Any23 community that graduation is on the horizon, then during that DISCUSS thread we could reach out to the Tika PMC to see if there are any thoughts/objections to that. Any23 has demonstrated to me most or all of the criteria for graduation so far: 1. Diverse community 2. Active contributors 3. Friendly, apache communication 4. Willingness to vet the licenses of the software, clean upstream IP 5. Election of new contributors 6. Synergy with other Apache projects Once the 0.7.0 release is out, I would recommend that the Any23 community start discussing graduation (and will do so on list post facto). Regarding additional graduation criteria 1) Get 0.7.0-incubating release, and more importantly the release porocess absolutely nailed. Simone Tripodi has lead this one from the outset and he quoted the other day that his intention was that Any23 PPMC member should now be able to act as release manager. 2) We recently welcomed Peter Ansell PPMC and Committership. Peter had some nice ideas w.r.t refactoring of codebase to simplify modularity... this DOES NOT block graduation +1 3) Michele Mostarda has viewed his opinions in improving parsers as per W3C spec... this DOES NOT block graduation +1 I would be really keen to find out from a mentor/shepherd POV what does block graduations... I would however like to hear this post 0.7.0-incubating (1st since entering incubator) release. Yep let's talk about it then. Thanks! Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 2.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3
Dear Incubator Members, this is the 3th Release Candidate (the second Candidate was voted negative by the IPMC because of missing exact JAR filenames in LICENSE file and missing sources as ZIP not only as .tar.gz) There was already a positive vote at OpenMeetings Dev mailing list. Results: 6 PPMC +1: aaf, solomax, smoeker, alvaro, german, sebawagner 3 Wider Community +1: Irina, Denis, Jaime The Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201206.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-Y5qwVEGbybqKdeidx%2BFbJbGAa%2B7PZsEKtH25Y-s35JQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E The Result Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E Main changes are covered in the Readme: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/README Full Changelog: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/CHANGELOG Release artefacts: http://people.apache.org/~sebawagner/rc3/ Tag: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/ PGP release keys (signed using 93A30395): http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/project/KEYS Vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.openmeetings.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 2.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3
On 3 July 2012 19:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Incubator Members, this is the 3th Release Candidate (the second Candidate was voted negative by the IPMC because of missing exact JAR filenames in LICENSE file and missing sources as ZIP not only as .tar.gz) There was already a positive vote at OpenMeetings Dev mailing list. Results: 6 PPMC +1: aaf, solomax, smoeker, alvaro, german, sebawagner 3 Wider Community +1: Irina, Denis, Jaime The Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201206.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-Y5qwVEGbybqKdeidx%2BFbJbGAa%2B7PZsEKtH25Y-s35JQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E The Result Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E Main changes are covered in the Readme: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/README Full Changelog: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/CHANGELOG Release artefacts: http://people.apache.org/~sebawagner/rc3/ Tag: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/ Sorry, but the NOTICE file contains unnecessary information; it is for *required* notices only. That means it should only refer to items which are actually included in the relevent artifact. Also, for such included items it must only include whatever is the *required* notice; this is generally a short copyright paragraph, but may sometimes be nothing. That depends on the license. PGP release keys (signed using 93A30395): http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/project/KEYS Vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.openmeetings.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenMeetings 2.0 Incubating Release Candidate 3
is this the only concern or are there any other objections that will only be checked in the next round? Sebastian 2012/7/3 sebb seb...@gmail.com On 3 July 2012 19:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com seba.wag...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Incubator Members, this is the 3th Release Candidate (the second Candidate was voted negative by the IPMC because of missing exact JAR filenames in LICENSE file and missing sources as ZIP not only as .tar.gz) There was already a positive vote at OpenMeetings Dev mailing list. Results: 6 PPMC +1: aaf, solomax, smoeker, alvaro, german, sebawagner 3 Wider Community +1: Irina, Denis, Jaime The Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201206.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-Y5qwVEGbybqKdeidx%2BFbJbGAa%2B7PZsEKtH25Y-s35JQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E The Result Vote Thread is here: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-openmeetings-dev/201207.mbox/%3CCACeMiA-ibo6fGCbnLjJX9H5H2kFGDVJRMfxPyMtzWzCWNi%2BpOg%40mail.gmail.com%3E Main changes are covered in the Readme: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/README Full Changelog: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/CHANGELOG Release artefacts: http://people.apache.org/~sebawagner/rc3/ Tag: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/tags/2.0RC3/ Sorry, but the NOTICE file contains unnecessary information; it is for *required* notices only. That means it should only refer to items which are actually included in the relevent artifact. Also, for such included items it must only include whatever is the *required* notice; this is generally a short copyright paragraph, but may sometimes be nothing. That depends on the license. PGP release keys (signed using 93A30395): http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings/project/KEYS Vote will be open for 72 hours. [ ] +1 approve [ ] +0 no opinion [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) Thanks, Sebastian -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.openmeetings.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.openmeetings.de http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com seba.wag...@gmail.com
Re: Shepherd for Any23 and EasyAnt
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:18 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney wrote: Hi, Firstly I would like to say hello to Dave and a thank you for stepping up/being elected/whatever the process was to get involved with Any23 as the much appreciated Shepherd. It would be really great if you could get in list and introduce yourself to the community, as you mention the project is picking up pace and this would only help imho. Please see my personal comments below. Thank you Being an Incubator Shepherd is a new and rotating position that supplements a podling's Mentors. Jukka assigns shepherd volunteers to 1 to 3 projects to look at each month. What I like about this is the variety that Jukka chooses. So, if Any23 is still in the Incubator in 3 months you will have a different Shepherd. I may take you up on the offer to join the community and if I do it will be as someone who is interested in the project and how it fits in a Java stack around SOLR, Tika, POI, PDFBox, ODFToolkit(incubating). I guess I'm going to need to look into Apache Jackrabbit Oak as well. Best Regards, Dave On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Any23 - This is very cool. I want to try it out. It is already an active community and looks it is growing. It is making progress to being an important part of the Semantic Web. As I write this there is a Release VOTE starting on the any23-dev ML. +1 Sounds great! Assuming they get the release out, what's the feeling on their status in terms of other graduation criteria? Are they ready to start preparing for graduation, or is more community building still needed? Although Any23 presence within the ASF is sponsored via Tika PMC I am not sure what our aspirations are regarding the future... Integration into Tikaland either as a subproject or full on integration is however a conversation which began and fizzled out sometime ago [0]. Regarding additional graduation criteria 1) Get 0.7.0-incubating release, and more importantly the release porocess absolutely nailed. Simone Tripodi has lead this one from the outset and he quoted the other day that his intention was that Any23 PPMC member should now be able to act as release manager. 2) We recently welcomed Peter Ansell PPMC and Committership. Peter had some nice ideas w.r.t refactoring of codebase to simplify modularity... this DOES NOT block graduation 3) Michele Mostarda has viewed his opinions in improving parsers as per W3C spec... this DOES NOT block graduation I would be really keen to find out from a mentor/shepherd POV what does block graduations... I would however like to hear this post 0.7.0-incubating (1st since entering incubator) release. I hope I've contributed to this conversation somewhat. Thank you lewis [0] http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=graduation+tika+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.any23-dev#query:graduation%20tika%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.any23-dev+page:1+mid:vc2isc7haa6ux3he+state:results - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for EasyAnt
Le 3 juil. 2012 à 19:00, Jukka Zitting a écrit : Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org wrote: The primary target for Easyant will be being a subproject of Ant. Is there something that the Incubator can do for EasyAnt that the Ant PMC can't? If not, I don't see a need to wait for this to happen. I guess that the incubation process for EasyAnt was about training the people attached to the project so they learn how to build a proper ASF community, release, and check IP clearance. Since the Ant PMC doesn't contain enough active members so handle such project income, this should happen with the help of the Incubator. Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherding: chukwa, mesos, directmemory
As the most recent person added as a Chukwa committer I think we should give the project a chance. I think Chukwa has suffered from a lack of interest in the Hadoop community, maybe adding more committers would help. I think we need people who would write articles about Chukwa in technical publications more than we need people who code. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: So the idea is to give the contributors committership and hope things take off? Seems like a good idea to me, especially if Chukwa hasn't tried doing that before. Eric does want to make one more release. Maybe that will churn some enthusiasm. Eric is very tenacious about keeping it open and he is very timely with the mailing list discussions and submitted patches. Not sure if it's the case here (I don't follow Chukwa in detail), but I know some projects where a highly active lead developer has actually held back the community even though he had all the best intentions in mind. Instead of directly jumping in and fixing issues that people encounter, it's often a better long-term idea to help them come up with a solution themselves. That approach obviously doesn't work with all users, but with some such empowerment can be highly rewarding. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. [*] I'm inclined to give it another shot but I'm wondering what criteria do we use to decide that we've done all we've can. I guess the best criteria is when people run out of ideas or the energy to implement them. Basically incubation of a project makes sense for as long as there's ongoing progress towards graduation. Once progress is no longer being made, it's time for a podling to exit the Incubator in one way or another. [*] Apparently originally by Anne Isabella Ritchie in 1885 (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/give-a-man-a-fish.html), though the proverb is widely attributed to various other sources ranging from the Bible to Tao Te Ching. BR, Jukka Zitting -- Ahmed Fathalla
Write access to incubator wiki...
Can someone please (re)grant me write access to the incubator wiki? I am mentoring the Celix project and want to sign off a report there. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Write access to incubator wiki...
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: Can someone please (re)grant me write access to the incubator wiki? I am mentoring the Celix project and want to sign off a report there. What's your username on wiki.apache.org/incubator ? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Preston Carman as committer
Hi Jukka, Preston has accepted the invitation to be a committer. He would like prestonc as his username. His ICLA is on file already. Thanks, Vinayak On 7/3/12 2:11 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, [It's best to avoid cross-posting between private and public lists. Replying only on general@] On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is the final vote tally. I am sorry to bother you again with this request. But in lieu of our mentors, can you or someone else in the IPMC please perform the process documented at [1] to add Preston as a committer? Sure, just let me know which username Preston wants once you've invited him and made sure he has a CLA on file. I can take care of making the account request for you. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Preston Carman as committer
Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Vinayak Borkar vbo...@yahoo.com wrote: Preston has accepted the invitation to be a committer. He would like prestonc as his username. His ICLA is on file already. Thanks! Account requested. BR, Jukka Zitting - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Write access to incubator wiki...
MarcelOffermans On Jul 3, 2012, at 23:10 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: Can someone please (re)grant me write access to the incubator wiki? I am mentoring the Celix project and want to sign off a report there. What's your username on wiki.apache.org/incubator ? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Write access to incubator wiki...
Done On Wed, Jul 4, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: MarcelOffermans On Jul 3, 2012, at 23:10 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Marcel Offermans marcel.offerm...@luminis.nl wrote: Can someone please (re)grant me write access to the incubator wiki? I am mentoring the Celix project and want to sign off a report there. What's your username on wiki.apache.org/incubator ? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd for EasyAnt
On Jul 3, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Nicolas Lalevée wrote: Le 3 juil. 2012 à 19:00, Jukka Zitting a écrit : Hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Nicolas Lalevée nicolas.lale...@hibnet.org wrote: The primary target for Easyant will be being a subproject of Ant. Is there something that the Incubator can do for EasyAnt that the Ant PMC can't? If not, I don't see a need to wait for this to happen. I guess that the incubation process for EasyAnt was about training the people attached to the project so they learn how to build a proper ASF community, release, and check IP clearance. Since the Ant PMC doesn't contain enough active members so handle such project income, this should happen with the help of the Incubator. How has the refactoring due to an expected contributor's unwillingness to sign an ICLA effected the project? This issue makes me think that the main purpose of going through the incubator was to inoculate the project's IP, not that there is anything wrong with that. If it is true that the IP is correct is there any reason for the Incubator not to transfer the EasyAnt project to the Ant PMC? Does that make sense? Note I used the term transfer to recognize a different situation or standard from graduation to a TLP. Somehow the IPMC would need to certify the IP in the podling and then the target PMC would have to accept the podling. VOTEs: (1) PPMC - if it can. (2) Target PMC - to confirm that it wants the podling's IP. (3) IPMC - to confirm IP and transfer. (4) Board - do the bylaws require a fourth vote? Just a thought. Regards, Dave Nicolas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
