Re: automating history charts and Clutch
On 18 September 2012 03:32, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: crossley wrote: r1386462 Modified: incubator/public/trunk/content/history/current.txt Thanks for keeping that file up to date! The graph at http://incubator.apache.org/history/ is quite useful. However, I'm wondering if there really is need to manually maintain a separate text file when all the required information should already be present in podlings.xml. Can we generate the current.txt file from podlings.xml, or (even better) have the client create the history graph directly from podlings.xml? It would be fantastic if someone could automate that. At the moment, the current.txt (yellow) is maintained manually and the entry.txt (green) is automatically handled by Clutch. Ideally both would be automated independently of Clutch. Perhaps add a task to build.xml that generates current.txt and entry.txt from podlings.xml? Could extract the entry.txt code from clutch and extend it to handle current.txt If that sounds reasonable, I'm happy to give that a try. That seems like a good solution, now that we have the podlings.xml file. I've created an XSLT script that generates a version of entry.txt. It currently generates the output in date order rather than reverse date order as that is easier - one can use position() for the number. Not sure why the order is currently reversed; the Javascript does not seem to care about ordering. Is there a reason for the reverse data order? I've started looking at current.txt. Maybe at some point clutch itself could be run automatically whenever podlings.xml is updated. Perhaps just run it twice per day regardless. There are other things that it assesses too. I'd forgotten that. Yesterday the podlings.xml was updated a number of times in quick succession to catch up with laggard graduates. So would not want to run cumbersome Clutch on each update. Very true, it does take quite a while. Or perhaps it could be triggered by Ant, say 30 minutes after the update, otherwise once per day. Tricky to get that right. Clutch seems reasonably robust now. The main thing that used to trip it up was project names with inconsistent spellings for different resources. The recent addition of the resourceAliases attribute in podlings.xml does assist. Yes, though we would need to ensure that the log file was available for inspection. Could perhaps be run by the apsite login on minotaur. This runs the people and projects builds. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View
Hi... From all the replies we got so far I don't see any legal concerns and hence I take my question/concern back. In either way, keep the good work OpenMeetings ;) On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:52 PM, dsh daniel.hais...@gmail.com wrote: Well I still opt to use Meta descriptors such as Maven POMs or CMake (probably only applicable for native projects) files in such cases which would allow to generate Eclipse/IDE you name it specific files once the sources has been obtained. Cheers Daniel On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:22 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 September 2012 13:57, Alexei Fedotov alexei.fedo...@gmail.com wrote: The most useful file containing the project classpath is only formatted automatically, it cannot be generated without project-specific knowledge. There is no techical problem to drop these files, yet developers who download our source release loose a useful code navigation tool without these files. Unfortunately, Eclipse .classpath and .project files are *not* portable; the contents can depend on the individual Eclipse setup. In particular, unless all developers use the same default JDK as required by the project, the classpath files will vary. Also, the .project file will vary if some developers have added certain plugins, e.g. FindBugs or Maven. Having the files in SVN in the location where Eclipse expects to find them will cause problems for some developers, as they will need to modify the files locally in order to build. They cannot commit the files without causing problems for others, and so their workspace will always contain modifications. If you do wish to release IDE build files, I suggest you release them as separate files, e.g. under res/ide-support/eclipse res/ide-support/netbeans etc. The files can be named eclipse.classpath eclipse.profile as files without names can cause problems. 14.09.2012 16:46 пользователь Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com написал: On Sep 14, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: But can we add ASL headers to files which are defined and considered to be, even structure wise (please correct me if I am wrong), under the license of Eclipse ? If they are build artifacts (like stuff created by autoconf for example), then there's no need to add AL headers (AL, not ASL). AL headers are for actual work products (like source code, etc)... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Created] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
Rich Bowen created PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: --- Summary: Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Rich Bowen updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: Searched for Allura at * http://www.ohloh.net/ - Found Allura, at SourceForge, which is where this podling originated * http://sourceforge.net/ - Returned Allura, which is this podling * https://github.com/ - Found several forks/mirrors of Allura, and an Allura/Django tool run by one of the Allura PPMC members Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Rich Bowen updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: Evidence Of Open Source Adoption: Searched for Allura at * http://www.ohloh.net/ - Found Allura, at SourceForge, which is where this podling originated * http://sourceforge.net/ - Returned Allura, which is this podling * https://github.com/ - Found several forks/mirrors of Allura, and an Allura/Django tool run by one of the Allura PPMC members Searched for 'Allura' at Google and went through the first 20 pages. Found various clothing and medicinal products. Evidently 'Allura' is a shade of red, used in dyes. Also found a Philips corporation medical XRay product. Nothing that appears to be anywhere in our space. was: Searched for Allura at * http://www.ohloh.net/ - Found Allura, at SourceForge, which is where this podling originated * http://sourceforge.net/ - Returned Allura, which is this podling * https://github.com/ - Found several forks/mirrors of Allura, and an Allura/Django tool run by one of the Allura PPMC members Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Rich Bowen updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: Evidence Of Registration: Searched uspto.gov for mentions of Allura These are patents that contain 'Allura' http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=0f=Sl=50TERM1=AlluraFIELD1=co1=ANDTERM2=FIELD2=d=PTXT It appears that Allura is the name of a color of red, so it shows up a lot for that. I found 43 trademarks on 'Allura' - http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=tocstate=4006%3A28k5tu.1.1p_search=searchssp_L=50BackReference=p_plural=yesp_s_PARA1=p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LDexpr=PARA1+AND+PARA2p_s_PARA2=Allurap_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMBp_op_ALL=ANDa_default=searcha_search=Submit+Querya_search=Submit+Query The only one that seems at all related is: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=4006:28k5tu.2.31 - Abandoned - Computer training. Vaguely related, but abandoned. Other than that, there's a lot of clothing and medical stuff, but nothing in the space of software or computers. Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Rich Bowen updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: Evidence Of Use On World Wide Web: I don't understand the question. Can someone take a stab at this? Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Rich Bowen updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: Description: Allura means and then ... in colloquial Italian. It's also the name of a character in the show Voltron. And it's also the name of a particular red dye color disodium 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-2-naphthalenesulfonate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC) (was: Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Allura means and then ... in colloquial Italian. It's also the name of a character in the show Voltron. And it's also the name of a particular red dye color disodium 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-2-naphthalenesulfonate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC) -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: automating history charts and Clutch
On 18 September 2012 12:07, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 September 2012 03:32, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: sebb wrote: David Crossley wrote: Jukka Zitting wrote: crossley wrote: r1386462 Modified: incubator/public/trunk/content/history/current.txt Thanks for keeping that file up to date! The graph at http://incubator.apache.org/history/ is quite useful. However, I'm wondering if there really is need to manually maintain a separate text file when all the required information should already be present in podlings.xml. Can we generate the current.txt file from podlings.xml, or (even better) have the client create the history graph directly from podlings.xml? It would be fantastic if someone could automate that. At the moment, the current.txt (yellow) is maintained manually and the entry.txt (green) is automatically handled by Clutch. Ideally both would be automated independently of Clutch. Perhaps add a task to build.xml that generates current.txt and entry.txt from podlings.xml? Could extract the entry.txt code from clutch and extend it to handle current.txt If that sounds reasonable, I'm happy to give that a try. That seems like a good solution, now that we have the podlings.xml file. I've created an XSLT script that generates a version of entry.txt. It currently generates the output in date order rather than reverse date order as that is easier - one can use position() for the number. Eventually went with reverse data order as it was not much more difficult. Not sure why the order is currently reversed; the Javascript does not seem to care about ordering. Is there a reason for the reverse data order? I've started looking at current.txt. Done, though the process requires xslt and Perl, as I could not work out how to create a running total in XSLT. Also the output is in increasing date order and includes one entry for each distinct start/end date. Not sure what dates were use originally as they don't all seem to appear in podlings.xml. The final total is 1 different from before, but agrees with podlings.xml Maybe at some point clutch itself could be run automatically whenever podlings.xml is updated. Perhaps just run it twice per day regardless. There are other things that it assesses too. I'd forgotten that. Yesterday the podlings.xml was updated a number of times in quick succession to catch up with laggard graduates. So would not want to run cumbersome Clutch on each update. Very true, it does take quite a while. Or perhaps it could be triggered by Ant, say 30 minutes after the update, otherwise once per day. Tricky to get that right. Clutch seems reasonably robust now. The main thing that used to trip it up was project names with inconsistent spellings for different resources. The recent addition of the resourceAliases attribute in podlings.xml does assist. Yes, though we would need to ensure that the log file was available for inspection. Could perhaps be run by the apsite login on minotaur. This runs the people and projects builds. Just realised that apsite won't be able to commit the generated output. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13458165#comment-13458165 ] Branko Čibej commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: --- I always thought that the colloquial Italian was allora, not allura. Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Allura means and then ... in colloquial Italian. It's also the name of a character in the show Voltron. And it's also the name of a particular red dye color disodium 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-2-naphthalenesulfonate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC) -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15) Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=13458184#comment-13458184 ] Rich Bowen commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15: - I don't know ... I don't speak Italian. I find both spellings online. Establish Whether Apache Allura would be a Suitable Name -- Key: PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-15 Project: Podling Suitable Names Search Issue Type: Suitable Name Search Reporter: Rich Bowen Allura means and then ... in colloquial Italian. It's also the name of a character in the show Voltron. And it's also the name of a particular red dye color disodium 6-hydroxy-5-((2-methoxy-5-methyl-4-sulfophenyl)azo)-2-naphthalenesulfonate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allura_Red_AC) -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
