Re: [DISCUSS] Incubator exit criteria

2014-07-11 Thread ant elder
This is quite a long thread now so its not that clear what the actual
proposal is now, could you maybe state what the current proposal is?

I think its something like If a podling is over a year old and not
done a release then retire it. As i've said i don't think thats a
very good rule and doesn't seem like its really been thought through
properly. For example, its kept saying that the podling would go to
the ASF Attic but the Attic is only for TLPs so retired podlings don't
go there.

How about before adding a new rule to the policy page we just try it
with a few of the old podlings first to see what happens and from that
find what sort of rule might work?

   ...ant

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 Right, and thats why i don't think a rule like that would be useful.

 I still don't quite follow. Are you saying that the rule wouldn't
 be useful, or that incubator - attic migration wouldn't be?

 If Droids was made to retire the code would be frozen in the attic or
 forced out to github,

 That would be true. But what's the harm in that? The code
 still exists and can be checked out. What we're essentially
 signaling to the outside world is that ASF can no longer
 vouch for the viability of the community around it. Isn't it
 the truth of the matter?

 forced to change its package name

 I don't really see any reason to do that for code
 that got moved to that attic. Am I missing something?

 in the code and so probably lose existing users,

 Again, why would code lose users? Remember we're talking
 about a situation of no releases here. Presumably those
 users who are comfortable building from the repo would
 just keep doing so. And since there was no release,
 what else is out there for us to worry about?

 and remove all references to apache in  the
 project and doc and website etc etc. All tons of work which being a small
 project they'd probably never get done so it would likely be the death of
 the project.

 I see no reason to do any of that for the project that's
 in the attic.

 And for what purpose? To quote one of them from their dev list a couple of
 months ago: Going to the attic would suck. It's a solid code base, it's
 just one of those things that doesn't necessarily need to change much..
 The main people in Droids we know and trust, they are ASF members and PMC
 chairs. We in the Incubator should be helping them graduate not looking for
 ways to retire the project.

 The quote feels a little bit misinformed about the attic/ASF
 policies.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: Question on report

2014-07-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi,

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:21 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote:
 ...So - one of the podlings did not file a report, but one of the mentors
 did fill it in. Am I correct in assuming this would still count as a
 missed report?...

I suppose you mean DeviceMap - we'll probably have to write a book on
that one at some point ;-)

The challenges I sent to their dev list (see [1]) have started good
(and somewhat interesting) activity towards finally making a
release, and the podling does not require much energy from the
Incubator PMC so IMO it's still not urgent to fail its incubation.

-Bertrand

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2014

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Re: Wiki Access

2014-07-11 Thread Nick Burch

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Alan Cabrera wrote:
Does one have to be a infrastructure team member to grant access or can 
IPMC members provide that?


You need to be listed on the AdminGroup page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AdminGroup

There's currently 21 IPMC members on there who can grant karma. If another 
IPMC member would like to be number 22, I'd suggest a suitable post to 
private@


Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tez-0.4.1-incubating RC0

2014-07-11 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
+1 (binding)

Thanks,
Ashutosh


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Arun C Murthy a...@hortonworks.com wrote:

 +1 (binding)

 Arun

 On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Siddharth Seth ss...@apache.org wrote:

  The Apache Tez Incubating PPMC has voted to release Apache
  Tez-0.4.1-incubating (RC0).
 
  Result Mail:
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-tez-dev/201407.mbox/%3CCAOapipsBOizkB5yOmCxT1UP9%2BCL%2BHjtxcy39mzFNFkZXeocaxA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
  Initial Vote Thread:
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-tez-dev/201406.mbox/%3CCAOapipsP5KfMD2_imfubp%2BUKc9qPA5b4EVAmRPqbv-utt%3DSNkQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E
 
  This thread is for the IPMC to vote on this release.
 
  GIT source tag:
 
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-tez/repo?p=incubator-tez.git;a=log;h=refs/tags/release-0.4.1-incubating-rc0
 
  Staging site:
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/tez/tez-0.4.1-incubating-src-rc0/
 
  Nexus Staging URL:
  https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetez-1006/
 
  PGP release keys:
  http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x477E02D33DD51430
  KEYS file available at
  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/tez/KEYS
 
  List of issues fixed in the release:
  *https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEZ/fixforversion/12327143/
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TEZ/fixforversion/12327143/*
  Also available in CHANGES.txt within the release tarball.
 
  Vote will be open for at least 72 hours ( until the required number of
 IPMC
  votes are obtained).
 
  [ ] +1 approve
  [ ] +0 no opinion
  [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
 
 
  Thanks
 
  - Sid



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